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Sometimes you are away from a charger and want to conserve what you have left, or are trying to run a resource heavy app without glitches (satnav) or trying to get a big update/download faster.
I thought we could post tips that either help with speed of the device or with saving battery - particularly if you know of apps or settings that slow the running down or eat battery.
I know these are quite obvious but I'll list some anyway to get us started
Turn these off for extra speed and batt :
Wireless General
GPS (you can leave location by network on for most stuff like weather apps)
Wifi - turning it off while you're out and about saves lots o batt. I also keep network notification off completely unless I'm in a new location looking for a wifi fix.
Bluetooth - set for off and undiscoverable
Mobile network - Set it to 2G for a big boost in battery life (and I've found, if the 3G is rubbish - I know, obvious, but I recently spent 20 mins moaning of no signal at all to send a tx at a gig, then realised I could flick to 2G and was away!!)
Data Sync
Google - You can turn of Auto sync and just sync manually when you choose
Background Data - Turning this off gives a huge battery boost, but gmail won't arrive in real time, so if you're expecting important mail don't turn it off.
On the sync option, if you know contacts and calendar are not changing that often you can uncheck these and sync manually every now and then
Apps that use Data Sync
Weather - check how often the app refreshes and set it to a longer time - some weather apps are by default set to refresh every 30 mins and this might not be needed most of the time.
Twitter and Facebook widgets and apps - again check the refresh periods, also notifications will Use batt more than no notifications.
Same probably applies for Exchange Sync but I don't use it.
Sound/Display - these things will save batt when you need it.
I think having Ring AND vibe will be more batt intensive, so maybe knock off the vibrate when you want to save battery
Keep Brightness low and lower screen timeout.
Turn off Auto rotation and animations and Notification Flash
Turning keypad tones off etc will save a bit too. It all adds up.
Turning Off TouchFLO
When running CoPilot, it helps to turn off wifi and some have reported that if you can toggle the Sense UI to the ordinary Android 3 screen home this helps too (Tho I've personally not had problems) To turn off Sense UI or Touchflo 7Screen home, you need to first go to settings-applications-manage applications and look for TouchFLO then clear defaults. After this, when you go to home, you'll be offered a choice of home or TouchFlo. To toggle back to Touchflo, press the home button again. To return it to default, just check the Use by default for this action, and then make your choice.
Post anything you've found to help or hinder speed, or to drain or boost battery life
Ta Dayzee xx
Is there a widget to switch from 3G to 2G?
no, that is not a setting that can be done on a widget. all the ones that are around and claim to do it just jump you straight into mobile settings so you can toggle it yourself in two clicks instead of four....
But there is the Mobile Network one - HTC built in - when that is turned off, you can still get calls, and send txts. I use this toggle to do that - also can you not set a shortcut to do 3g to 2g only using bettercut? I'm sure you can, because you have that option in settings and bettercut can make a shortcut to any settings toggle.
Dayzee
Edit - Bettercut doesn't work with Hero Well, certainly not for creating and adding a shortcut to a system setting - will let the devs know...
Is it my imagination or does having the people widget on a home screen makes the device a little sluggish?
Is anyone else using touchdown? Not sure if that is slowing my device down and using battery a lot too?
Toggle Settings is a good app for controlling Daisys suggestions above, taskiller or Advanced Task Manager are essential for closing unwanted apps.
Couple of notes about apps that close stuff down like Taskiller and Task Manager - they can slow your fone down immediately after an end all, as the apps that need to run like TouchFlo have to restart - which they do, all by themselves - but it makes the fone prone to laggyness and force closing if you try to open stuff straight after.
If you get one that allows exclusions (I know advanced Task Manager does but dunno on others) then exclude TouchFLO and you'll get less proba after close all.
Also there were reports that one of the Taskiller apps messed with the long press home functions. Not sure on this tho...
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If you get one that allows exclusions (I know advanced Task Manager does but dunno on others) then exclude TouchFLO and you'll get less proba after close all.
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With Taskkiller you also have the option to exclude programs. It also has a widget you can tap to close all (except the ignored programs) The free version only allows two apps to be ignored. Exclude TouchFlo is a good suggestion.
Ce said:
With Taskkiller you also have the option to exclude programs. It also has a widget you can tap to close all (except the ignored programs) The free version only allows two apps to be ignored. Exclude TouchFlo is a good suggestion.
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Try TaskPanel, it's free and doesn't seem to have any restrictions in its exclude list. You can also add a memory threshold when TaskPanel should automatically kill applications (configured through a separate list). And finally, it registers itself as an ongoing task and starts up automatically.
TaskPanel ist great... Thanks for that Tip. Have it running in the Background and now it Kills processes that are not in my Exclude List everytime the RAM goes below 50Meg.
My Hero is now (almost) Lag-Free.
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
jhericurls said:
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
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Background data? As in what? Mobile network?
jhericurls said:
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
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Surely that disables all the sync services etc which is really what the phone is all about!
Also the Market won't work unless background data is enabled... It will save battery but a said, many services won't work unless you update manually.
I switched this off when in France so I didn't eat up my roaming data bundle.
The Jones said:
Is it my imagination or does having the people widget on a home screen makes the device a little sluggish?
Is anyone else using touchdown? Not sure if that is slowing my device down and using battery a lot too?
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Ive also noticed this also with the people widget after i removed it as well as the Clock # 8 it severely reduced the lagginess of my Hero
Hi Dayzee & co.,
If you're looking for a good way to save battery power without having to turn wifi on and off manually, check out "Y5 battery saver"
Y5 - Battery Saver is an AndroidTM application which saves your battery by turning the Wifi off in locations where you have never been connected before. The application turns Wifi back on when you are back to known location. It will remember the locations automatically. All you have to do is turn the Wifi on and connect to the known Wifi network for the first time
Really cool, and works like a charm. Ok, you need to have your GPS turned on, but at least that one is useful everywhere you are (except inside buildings, fair enough)... whereas wifi isn't. Furthermore, wifi uses up more battery than GPS.
Concerning Advanced Task Killer (awesome!), you might want to check out this thread if you're sick of having to restart your phone each time you have to sync. In a few words: always put HTC sync in the Ignore list of the program. Unchecking it won't do.
Cheers!
Stop using Peep (set it all to manual update), remove the widget and start using Twidroid.
As well as a huge reduction in battery draw, you'll find your Hero is far more responsive than is ever was before.
The last few days my Hero has not been sluggish and the battery life has increased dramatically. Set to 30 mins update just like Peep was.
Here's my tip, that works really well, for me. I've tried a myriad of task managers, but finally settled for TaskPanel. It doesn't really matter what you use, I suppose, but I found it to be one of the clearest. Furthermore, advanced task killer's and taskillers "kill all" commands seemed to randomly kill the TouchFlo process as well, even though it was "ignored"...
I've come to the conclusion that cpu load rarely is a problem on this phone (in terms of finding a reason to possible lag), unless you are watching videos (which you probably won't, since it appears to be impossible to encode videos so they don't at least slow down a bit every five seconds) or listening to music.
Instead it's the amount of memory you have free for apps to use. I have no idea why, since I also live by the credo "memory free is memory wasted", so ideally my phone would have 5 megs of ram free and everything would work great. Now for some reason, my Hero desktop starts to lag substantially (as well as other gui-elements, such as long scrolling lists) whenever my memory goes below 40 megs.
I always hated the "favourite people" widget by Htc, so I closed it day one. Maybe that's why my htc experience has been pretty positive. I also closed the desktop widgets for SMS-messages and Mail, since they can't show MMS:es or HTML-mail and since they are both ridiculously slow at flicking from one message to the next. I also threw away the novelty clocks by Htc, since they animate too often and that slows down the interface while they are moving. Instead I opted for the iPhone-like clock "digital clock widget". Just don't force kill it, since it will stop updating and you will be stuck with a beautiful clock that shows the right time once every day.
So basically, my formula for a fluid hero experience is:
* Check your free memory with TaskPanel every now and then. If it goes below 50, prepare for slowdown. If it goes below 40, go on a killingspree.
* Register TaskPanel as an "ongoing service", so it shows up in your notification drawer. Now, if you can see your notification drawer (which you can't in the browser), then instead of clicking home to close stuff, open TaskPanel (or whatever) and kill the app you are about to stop using.
* With multitasking comes responsibility. Odds are, if you ever owned an iPhone, this is something you were *****in and moanin about. "Gimme multitasking, gimme!". Well now you've got it and so, learn to use it. Everything that is slow, badly programmed or a resource hog has gotta go, unless you really really need it. Beautiful clock animating slowly? Too bad! Ditch it.
Somebody said Android wold be very good at managing resources by itself and that sounds reasonable. However, I read numerous comments about people finding this to not be the case. Maybe in version 2.0. But for now I'm stuck killing of processes myself. It works for me and makes my UI snappy. And I can keep 3-5 apps running at the same time (that are my own choices, not mandatory apps that come with the UI) without problem. I regularly have babbler, androidirc, taskpanel, market, ebuddy, redditisfun running at the same time without problem. Just kill off apps you are not going to use for a long time.
Ok, sorry to be rambling, but this is my take on the situation. It might get resolved with the Hero update or with the 2.0 version of Android. Don't know, but until then, we need some tools and wild speculation won't solve anything. If you made it through the whole message, I would appreciate your comments - especially any positive experiences you have from "letting Android do its own cleaning". It sounds a little fishy that it would be bad a first, but after about a week, things will get really snappy? What if I boot my phone? Will I have to wait a week again for things to become fast?
-JJ
Speed and battery boosting Tips
Dayzee said:
Sometimes you are away from a charger and want to conserve what you have left, or are trying to run a resource heavy app without glitches (satnav) or trying to get a big update/download faster.
I thought we could post tips that either help with speed of the device or with saving battery - particularly if you know of apps or settings that slow the running down or eat battery.
I know these are quite obvious but I'll list some anyway to get us started
Turn these off for extra speed and batt :
Wireless General
GPS (you can leave location by network on for most stuff like weather apps)
Wifi - turning it off while you're out and about saves lots o batt. I also keep network notification off completely unless I'm in a new location looking for a wifi fix.
Bluetooth - set for off and undiscoverable
Mobile network - Set it to 2G for a big boost in battery life (and I've found, if the 3G is rubbish - I know, obvious, but I recently spent 20 mins moaning of no signal at all to send a tx at a gig, then realised I could flick to 2G and was away!!)
Data Sync
Google - You can turn of Auto sync and just sync manually when you choose
Background Data - Turning this off gives a huge battery boost, but gmail won't arrive in real time, so if you're expecting important mail don't turn it off.
On the sync option, if you know contacts and calendar are not changing that often you can uncheck these and sync manually every now and then
Apps that use Data Sync
Weather - check how often the app refreshes and set it to a longer time - some weather apps are by default set to refresh every 30 mins and this might not be needed most of the time.
Twitter and Facebook widgets and apps - again check the refresh periods, also notifications will Use batt more than no notifications.
Same probably applies for Exchange Sync but I don't use it.
Sound/Display - these things will save batt when you need it.
I think having Ring AND vibe will be more batt intensive, so maybe knock off the vibrate when you want to save battery
Keep Brightness low and lower screen timeout.
Turn off Auto rotation and animations and Notification Flash
Turning keypad tones off etc will save a bit too. It all adds up.
Turning Off TouchFLO
When running CoPilot, it helps to turn off wifi and some have reported that if you can toggle the Sense UI to the ordinary Android 3 screen home this helps too (Tho I've personally not had problems) To turn off Sense UI or Touchflo 7Screen home, you need to first go to settings-applications-manage applications and look for TouchFLO then clear defaults. After this, when you go to home, you'll be offered a choice of home or TouchFlo. To toggle back to Touchflo, press the home button again. To return it to default, just check the Use by default for this action, and then make your choice.
Post anything you've found to help or hinder speed, or to drain or boost battery life
Ta Dayzee xx
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turning off allmost every things,then what reson to have a smart phone and spend 600$ for the device better, turn off your hero and keep in the pocket and turn it back on to use...keep in pocket with power off till next use.this is not the sulution .turning off everythings ........rether go with motorola razer v3.
I still don't see the point of using task managers and killing tasks. I just let the OS manage everything for me.
My Hero run very well indeed since I worked out that Peep was a real battery and resource hog.
I've just been for a 4 mile walk and used My Tracks to track the walk, Twidroid, Browser hot linked from tweets in Twidroid, answered a phone call and responded to a number of texts.
Looked at My Tracks a number of times to see what it was doing and to look at the satellite map. I like to point out things on the phone screen to the kids that they can see in real life - geeky but they think its cool.
Kept checking on how fast we were walking etc...
So screen was active quite a bit.
All over the space of 1hr 15mins with the GPS running all the time.
Hero never lagged once, battery used was around 10% (at a guess, maybe 12%).
Overall very impressed.
Turn off 3G, turn on only when needed
Settings -> Location -> Untick ''Wireless Networks and GPS Satelites''
Settings ->Accounts -> Untick Background data (Unless you want to use market)
Settings -> Wirelless -> Advanced -> Wifi sleep policy -> Never
Use phone on 2G, unless using internet (then switch to 3G mode)
Data traffic always OFF (Use only when needed)
Backlight low or Auto Brightness (And allow light to decrease)
Turn off wireless, basically everything turned off with the power control widget, turn on when necessary
Install task manager and set auto-kill mode to crazy on switch off screen mode (Put apps that always run in ignore list e.g. Launcher, Messaging. Basically the necessities)
Install SetCPU (After rooting your phone) - Min CPU 122mhz, Max CPU ~700mhz - 'On demand' profile
SetCpu - Profiles -> Screen Off -> Min 122mhz, Max 122mhz, Performance mode
Upgrade to Froyo 2.2 - Enable JIT (Saves battery on 2.2+)
Switch to a Cyanogenmod Rom
Enable undervolting (Only for CyanogenMOD roms)
Use RenderFX widget (CyanogenMOD, best to use low red, best to use when you are heading out)
Cyanogenmod - Spare Parts -> End Button Behaviour -> Go to sleep
LAST, but NOT LEAST, if you notice no significant increase in battery life, then your battery is no calibrated right! So go to market, download 'Battery Calibration', and charge your phone to 100%. Next, if its abbout 4000v - 4200v, your phone is correctly calibrated!
If its not 4000 -4200, press the ''calibrate'' button, and let your phone die out, then fully charge it (while its still powered off). Wait till light is green, TURN ON.
After boot, battery will not be 100% yet, reboot once more, charge to 100% (while phone is on), and check your new calibrated battery! It should now be 4000 to 4200v
I know there might be programs and applications to increase your battery life, but I dont have any experience with these, so feel free to post your experiences! Some examples may include juicedefender, etc
Anyone wants to add to this list, feel free =)
royalbloodvi said:
Turn off 3G
Backlight low
Turn off wireless, basically everything turned off with the power control widget
Install task manager and set auto-kill mode to crazy on switch off screen mode
I know there might be programs and applications to increase your battery life, but I dont have any experience with these, so feel free to post your experiences! Some examples may include juicedefender, etc
Anyone wants to add to this list, feel free =)
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I will never install a task manager it's do more damage then it does good.....
My battery last 2 days and the only thing i do is install juicedefender and use my phone alot
knudsen81 said:
I will never install a task manager it's do more damage then it does good.....
My battery last 2 days and the only thing i do is install juicedefender and use my phone alot
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I don't know what goes wrong, but mine losts for only one day. If i have charged it overnight the battery is empty the next evening
No task managers. The phone manages its RAM well and the battery will last longer. For normal uses upto 1.5 days and for heavy users 1 day.
dabulcke said:
I don't know what goes wrong, but mine losts for only one day. If i have charged it overnight the battery is empty the next evening
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and here I heard installing juicedefender does more damage than good too.. what to believe? Everything is based on peoples hearsay and no evidence..
On my girl friends X10 mini I changed from ADW launcher to Helixlauncher and changed the brightness to auto. That made a HUGE difference.
Was on vacation and turned off 3G because I was not gonna use any expenisve data. That alone boosted my batterylife about 1 days worth.
junglepunk said:
Was on vacation and turned off 3G because I was not gonna use any expenisve data. That alone boosted my batterylife about 1 days worth.
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people can do much to boost battery time, like turn off 3g, brightness control, turn off gps and so on, that all helps the battery
I have switched of almost everything and still get about 1 day of battery with about 2-3Hrs of music and a few calls and videos.
is it ok?
I get over 48 hours and I use the wifi a lot and do about 30mins of calls a day.
My tips:
* turn background data off and manually update ur emails when u want - this is the best tip I put it on my blog too
* manually enable network data when u need it
* use the top button to go on standby as soon as you are done using the phone
* keep gps, 3g and wifi off unless u want to use it
Sent from my U20i using XDA App
I have background data off.
No emailing whatsoever till now....
Almost 75% of the time in standby
Gps 3G wifi bluetooth are off.
Yet with stock launcer i get 24Hrs
Helix 30Hrs..
Why?
Its been two weeks(or 3) since i bought the phone...
Please reply.
BTW when did you buy the phone?
^^Ok.
I have come to know the problem.
Running any apps in background like Battery Indicator or task manager brings down the battery so much(the latter not much though)..
Because daily i used to get the above with battery indicator pro on.
But after uninstalling it i got about double that battery life..
So people better don't run them all the time.
task manager can be used sometimes about once every 2 hrs o so.
This increased my battery life so much on stock launcher
Just got the pro today. Will be ditching my X2 depending on the performance of this one after a week. So far, I love the mini pro for the fact that I can now hear my incoming messages and calls!
A couple of questions though:
1) Is there a way to wake up the screen when an SMS arrives?
2) Custom ringtone per contact?
3) Is there a way to disable screen lock when the phone goes to sleep by itself (not pressing the power button) ?
4) Is there a way to unlock the screen without the need to press the left button, I was hoping to go directly to the pattern unlock after i turn on the phone
Still getting used to the keyboard lay-out as I've been using X2 for almost 6 months.
andoy said:
1) Is there a way to wake up the screen when an SMS arrives?
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I use Chomp SMS app and this allows the screen to wake-up, I think Handcent SMS does too. I never used the stock SMS app so not sure if there is a way to do it with that.
andoy said:
3) Is there a way to disable screen lock when the phone goes to sleep by itself (not pressing the power button) ?
4) Is there a way to unlock the screen without the need to press the left button, I was hoping to go directly to the pattern unlock after i turn on the phone
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Not sure if this answers your question, I just press the Menu button twice to unlock the phone, never used the power button to wake it up funnily enough, only used the power button go in to sleep mode. When I press Menu button it wakes up to the pattern unlock.
ayewhy said:
I use Chomp SMS app and this allows the screen to wake-up, I think Handcent SMS does too. I never used the stock SMS app so not sure if there is a way to do it with that.
Not sure if this answers your question, I just press the Menu button twice to unlock the phone, never used the power button to wake it up funnily enough, only used the power button go in to sleep mode. When I press Menu button it wakes up to the pattern unlock.
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Nice, i'll try to look for those apps. I did try the menu button and it worked. At least this relieves stress on the power button since I won't be using it to wake-up the phone anymore.
How's about not locking the phone when it goes to sleep? Unless I press the power button?
After a day with it, battery is now @ 30%+. Hope it improves or SE comes out with a high capacity.
Hi, where is the disable 3G button?
I can't seem to find it. I found wifi on and off.
and I unchecked location with gps.
thanks
Helix launcher is the best thing I installed to my mini pro. Batt life is now 3-4 days regular use and 5 days if i don't play games. Games are draining the batt quickly.
I'm totally getting rid of my X2.
3 to 4 days? Lol how can that be possible.. Did you use 3g?
hyhyhhy said:
3 to 4 days? Lol how can that be possible.. Did you use 3g?
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I can prove it, there's a display in the phone where it says # of hours unplugged. If it's not working for you, doesn't mean it shouldn't for others as well. If you barely make 2 days, then that's what we should be LOLing about.
My setting is as follows:
- 2g only
- 1 to 2 hours of wifi and bluetooth per day
- 1 to 2 hours of games (love the games) per day
- tried GPS for 1 hour using mapdroyd
- a couple of calls and text messages per day
- tried watching a movie (AVI) for an hour using yxflash
- tried the media, played MP3s for an hour
- tried meebo for an hour
- I got my alarms ON always
- notifications ON always
- custom led lights for new SMS (using ringo pro) always
- max volume for the entire day
- medium volume at night
- data connection off
- background data off
- screen brightness to zero but the sensor is still working (weird), the screens still adjusts to the surrounding
This is after installing helix. Before helix, I got a max of 1 and a half days only.
Ray_jai said:
Hi, where is the disable 3G button?
I can't seem to find it. I found wifi on and off.
and I unchecked location with gps.
thanks
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Im finding the same issue. Im looking for the "use only 2g" as found on the g1 (my other phone) but I can find it. Some help would be excellent on locating this option!!
~Dark
i am about to install BATTERY BOOSTER on my razr maxx.....i dont think my battery is as strong as they say, yes it last longer than most but i dont think its as strong as people make it out to be....any suggestions on this app ??
Haven't heard anything about this app. Juice Defender is usually the one that I hear the most about.
All they can do is turn off different things at different times... like the 3G/3G data. Juice Defender does what it claims, but at a cost. Turning on the screen to use the browser, there's a long pause before the data "wakes up". I deleted the app. I get 2 days of varied use from my Maxx and that's with the screen at full brightness, 4G on, Bluetooth on, and pretty much indiscriminate use of everything wasteful I can find.
I ran it for a while back on my Samsung Galaxy PLAYER 4.0, it was nice to have easy settting to trigger turning wifi, bluetooth and Airplane Mode on and off with locking and unlocking, but on that device I realized it was a complete waste for me because I could leave airplane mode on all the time on it and I only toggle wifi on if I need to use it right then, so really for the razr's its pretty pointless as most of what it does can be done with SMART ACTIONS, but it would give you a battery percentage and battery temp in your notifications if you like that sort of stuff.
If you want to max your battery and push notifications aren't that important to you use these settings in smart actions:
by default I have GPS off completely, on the rare occasion I need it I will turn it on manually.
I use one primary Smart Action and that is a reprogrammed "Battery Extender" with
TRIGGERS:
Screen Off
Charging (not charging)
ACTIONS:
Background Sync (Disable)
Cellular Data (Disable)
basically with these settings when the screen is off its equivalent to a "dumb phone", you can recieve calls and texts but no "push" notifications, this increased the time between charges by atleast 20% for me.
Also as I say in all these threads not forget to regularly (atleast every 2 weeks) power cycle (shutdown then reboot) your phone, I went like the first month of owning without ever shutting it off and when I got in the habit of doing this I noticed atleast a 10% increase in time between charge compared to never shutting off.
Screenshots of my last battery cycle below.
daniel644 said:
I ran it for a while back on my Samsung Galaxy PLAYER 4.0, it was nice to have easy settting to trigger turning wifi, bluetooth and Airplane Mode on and off with locking and unlocking, but on that device I realized it was a complete waste for me because I could leave airplane mode on all the time on it and I only toggle wifi on if I need to use it right then, so really for the razr's its pretty pointless as most of what it does can be done with SMART ACTIONS, but it would give you a battery percentage and battery temp in your notifications if you like that sort of stuff.
If you want to max your battery and push notifications aren't that important to you use these settings in smart actions:
by default I have GPS off completely, on the rare occasion I need it I will turn it on manually.
I use one primary Smart Action and that is a reprogrammed "Battery Extender" with
TRIGGERS:
Screen Off
Charging (not charging)
ACTIONS:
Background Sync (Disable)
Cellular Data (Disable)
basically with these settings when the screen is off its equivalent to a "dumb phone", you can recieve calls and texts but no "push" notifications, this increased the time between charges by atleast 20% for me.
Also as I say in all these threads not forget to regularly (atleast every 2 weeks) power cycle (shutdown then reboot) your phone, I went like the first month of owning without ever shutting it off and when I got in the habit of doing this I noticed atleast a 10% increase in time between charge compared to never shutting off.
Screenshots of my last battery cycle below.
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What your screen shot shows is that you basically don't use your phone. I wouldn't be able to even get close to 10% screen time if I tried. Unless I just let the phone sleep all day.
can any of you guide me through these smart actions....because even after the help videos and all, i still dont really understand how the triggers and actions work....i dont think im getting nearly the battery time i should out of this phone.....i have to put it on the charger at least 2 or three times out the day for a little while and by 10-11 oclock its still down to about 30-40 percent....and im hearing people getting almost 2 days on a full battery...not me!! so please help
WizeGuyDezignz said:
What your screen shot shows is that you basically don't use your phone. I wouldn't be able to even get close to 10% screen time if I tried. Unless I just let the phone sleep all day.
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I never made any claim to be a heavy user, when at work, home and where I go for my lunch break I use my Laptop, as I don't care to stare at a small screen if I don't need to, my phone is for like when i'm at walmart or somewhere and I need to look something up real quick.
But, for the record the smart action settings I listed will drop your overnight battery drain to like 1% every 3 hours or so which is really a huge boost to those that don't live starring at there phone day in / day out, nothing can help those people but rehab and counseling for there addiction issues, LOL (that was a joke don't get pissed off)
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blueizee said:
can any of you guide me through these smart actions....because even after the help videos and all, i still dont really understand how the triggers and actions work....i dont think im getting nearly the battery time i should out of this phone.....i have to put it on the charger at least 2 or three times out the day for a little while and by 10-11 oclock its still down to about 30-40 percent....and im hearing people getting almost 2 days on a full battery...not me!! so please help
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OK, as simple as I can make this
1. open Smart Actions app
2. click View samples in lower right hand corner
3. click Battery Extender
4. press and hold on trigger labeled Motion Detector, when menu pops up choose Delete
5. Look for + sign just to right of the word Actions (in the middle of the screen), tap the + sign
6. Scroll to very bottom of list and tap Cellular Data, menu will pop up with 2 choices (enable, disable) tap disable
7. (Optional) press and hold GPS under actions, and when menu comes up hit delete
8. Tap Add Rule on bottom left hand side of screen.
your done and set with my settings, AGAIN with these settings your phone WILL NOT RECIEVE new email or other data related notifications while the screen is off, but it will reduce power drain to aproxx 1% every 3 hours while the screen is off (barring other apps running in the background I can't account for), your could also ADD a time trigger if you only wanted it to do it at night so the junk emails notifications don't wake you up.
Think I have a solution for short battery life for Nook! (Really for any android device)
The problem has been that the Nook Tablet does not go to a Deep sleep (even if they say its fixed its not). Every night I have to charge the Nook battery because it goes from 100% to 90% overnight. If the Nook sits all day with no use the battery will drop to 85%. Almost a 20% decrease in power in one day of no use. By the second day battery is down to 50% and forget it if I use the Nook.
This app seems to solve the problem!
I downloaded a free app (Google App store) called “CPU Tuner (rooted phones)” you need to be rooted but for most of us here this is not an issue.
This app allows you setup CPU speed, WiFi and other settings for different states the Nook may be in.You can setup several triggers but I only used 1. The problem is not just having the Nook go into Deep Sleep but to turn off other functions that hit the battery e.g. WiFi and sync. With this app you are able to tell the Nook to go into Airplane mode as well as turning off all other features that may consume battery life. Below is my setup and findings.
State 1: “On Power (Plugged in)” WiFi on, Sync on, airplane mode off and CPU set to 1020mhz Governor set to interactive
State 2: “On Battery” WiFi on, Sync on, airplane mode off and CPU set to 1020mhz Governor set to interactive (same as above)
State 3: “Screen off” WiFi off, Sync off, airplane mode on and CPU 600mhz Governor set to conservative
State 4: “Screen Lock” WiFi off, Sync off, airplane mode on and CPU 600mhz Governor set to conservative (Same as above)
With these settings (and having 3 nooks with CM10 to test) here are my numbers
test stared around 10pm
Nook 1 started with 76% batt (CPU Tuner not installed)
Nook 2 started with 85% batt (CPU Tuner not installed)
Nook 3 started with 90% batt (CPU Tuner installed)
checked battery life at 8am next morning.
Nook 1 65% batt
Nook 2 75% batt
Nook 3 91% batt (Yes it went up 1%)
Later in the day with no use 8pm still 91%
Loaded CPU Tuner on all three Nooks started test at 10pm. (Day 2)
Nook 1 started at 96%
Nook 2 started at 74%
Nook 3 started at 83%
Checked battery life at 8am next morning.
Nook 1 ended at 96%
Nook 2 ended at 75%
Nook 3 ended at 83%
As you can see this is a big difference then losing 20% power overnight. Since I have Screen Off and Screen Lock as the same trigger I don’t lose power if I am just checking batt level or the time.
This is a MUST HAVE APP. easy to setup and makes a big difference.
You can also setup it up so that if you are on the battery the CPU is at 1008mhz which will save battery life while in use and when plugged in CPU can go to 1020mhz giving you full power.
Sorry for such a long post but I felt it was good info for the users.
Webmaven
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Think I have a solution for short battery life for Nook! (Really for any android device)
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Terrific recommendation. Was easy to set up and works like a charm. No more finding my Nook with a flat battery after ignoring it for a couple of days.
Gracias! :good:
Thank you for the tip! I will make a note of it so I can use it if/when I need it! It seems very handy to be able to set upp different user schemes!
However, I do not agree with this comment:
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The problem has been that the Nook Tablet does not go to a Deep sleep (even if they say its fixed its not).
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I do know it's a problem in some ROMs, and often a problem along the way during development. I think it's grocely unfair to suggest it's a general problem though.
I'm running a CM10 build from 1231 and I have not problems what-so-ever with battery life! I hardly loose anything while on standby (wifi off). I do turn it off manually, and I understand that with this app I can have it done automatically which is very neat, so might use it because of that. The processor speed adjustments works just fine anyway in the ROM i use.
It's great to know this thing exists and does work if I want to try a "work in progress" ROM more extensively. So once again :good:
The "battery-drain while asleep" problem got fixed since early December (e.g., Succulent's v12/08 build).
Also, I simply turn off WiFi (using a WiFi on/off widget) when I am not accessing Internet, and my NT's battery consumption while asleep has been well below 1% a day (comparable to that of my Google N7).
Finally, for those who are interested in battery consumption management tools, I find Battery Juice Defender (which I use on my Samsung GS-II phone) reasonably effective yet easy to use.
Sorry it was not meant to be a dig or insult!!!
I love ALL of the work that the developers have done and I think I have changed my ROM about a half a dozen times because I can't figure out which one I like best. But compared to my wife's Nook with just the B&N ROM her battery could last days where my battery only lasted 1 day.
Please; I did not mean anything insulting with the comment and the fact that these developers can put together such solid ROMs is saying something about their skills.
How I found this App was from posts here where users were saying that they had to turn off WiFi. Trying to make a WA or KA (WA = Wife Approved and KA = Kid Approved) I know that going in and turning on and off WiFi was never going to happen.
When installed the CPU Tuner and found that it was going to do this automatically and on top of this battery life goes from 1 day to several days I had to make a comment. Only after a few days of my kids using the Nook with the CPU Tuner they made comments about how long the battery lasted. Using these ROMs and CPU Tuner made the Nook 100% WA & KA and now wife is using Nook with the Hashcode ROM and I have heard no complaints. Happy wife, happy life.
Again sorry
Can you post screenshots of your settings from the start, there are some things in your OP that i can't get to setup for testing purposes, indeed the battery of my nook using @succulents ROM 4.1.2 final drains battery considerably while sleeping.
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lavero.burgos said:
Can you post screenshots of your settings from the start, there are some things in your OP that i can't get to setup for testing purposes, indeed the battery of my nook using @succulents ROM 4.1.2 final drains battery considerably while sleeping.
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I have uploaded the screen shots. All settings can be changed after loading so if you select the wrong item its not a problem.
I try to keep it simple, You can have more then 1 configuration but as you can see I just use 1. I set my user experience to Normal which can be changed in the settings.
Once you start CPU tuner you will see the current state of the Nook. You can select a different state. (Note the battery was at 52% which has been at 52% for about 2 days and just charged it this morning.)
Next you will see triggers; here you set what Profiles you want for different states of the Nook. Just tap in that section. I forgot to take a screen grab. But I have battery at 100, "On Battery" = Normal, "Screen Locked" = Powersave, "Screen Off" = Powersave and "On Power" = Performance. "Battery Hot" = Powersave and "Call in progress" = Performance. I really only need two profiles Performance and Powersave my Normal has the same settings as Performance and my Screen Off (which I don't use) has the same setting as Powersave.
Next are the profiles. tap the profile you want to edit. See screen shot 7-10 these images have my profile settings. I don't trust airplane mode to really shut off all that I want off so I make sure that things I want disabled are disabled and when I go into Performance I disable airplane mode and enable WiFi (Not sure what Background Sync is or if it even works on the Nook most times I keep it off especially for the "Screen Off" and "Powersave" profiles)
For the governors I leave it as interactive for "Full Speed" and "Normal" settings and conservative for "Save Battery" and Extreme Save Battery these may be the default I am not sure.
If I wanted to really go crazy. I could set my Normal CPU speed to 1008mhz to save battery life while on battery. I could also setup it up that if I have 100% battery use Performance Profile and when the battery level drops to 70% use Normal profile (with CPU at 1008mhz) and when the battery goes to 60% then create a new profile which lowers the CPU speed even more. But with my current setup I am very happy and the fact that after a few days of no use the Nook still has the same power level from when I last had it on.
That's about it. If you have any questions let me know.
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Is there any way to delay (eg I want it to wait 5 min before turning the WiFi off)? Or should I use tasker or automateit for something like this?
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larrycl said:
Is there any way to delay (eg I want it to wait 5 min before turning the WiFi off)? Or should I use tasker or automateit for something like this?
Sent from my NookTablet using xda app-developers app
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You can setup a profile where if you press the power button the CPU speed is reduced and turn off all features except WiFi. I believe that after 5 minutes (or what ever time you have set for "Sleep" I believe the default is 2 minutes) the Nook will go to sleep and all features for Sleep will take over e.g. No WiFi.
This will give you two Power options:
1. let the Nook go to sleep on its own after 5 minutes (Screen would be on during this time killing battery life)
2. Press the power button and screen turns off but WiFi is still on and after 5 minutes sleep all features off.
You can monitor what it's doing by pressing the power button and waiting about 6 minutes. Then go to the CPU Tuner log (shift pages to the left until you see the log page) What you would want to see is the following:
11:08am ALL-> Performance
11:07am All-> Powersave
11:01am All -> Screen Off
11:00am ALL-> Performance
Please note that since the time is only shown as hours and minutes it possible to see settings with the same time stamp.
Good Luck.
If you have any questions please let me know.
Fantastic, exactly what I am looking for :good:
I must say that the OP was very good, and CPU Tuner is a great app ....
but times, and apps move on.
currently I use the free "Battery Doctor" from Google Play which does what Tuner can do, but in a much user friendlier way.
my tablet only loses 1 to 2% overnight and still has 80% or so left if not used for a few days.
the developer also has a great file cleaner utility which i also use, and the Task Killer, and memory cleaner widgets you get.
in my opinion they are MUST have's, and I no longer even use the paid version of Juice defender that was my favorite app.
carkev said:
I must say that the OP was very good, and CPU Tuner is a great app ....
but times, and apps move on.
currently I use the free "Battery Doctor" from Google Play which does what Tuner can do, but in a much user friendlier way.
my tablet only loses 1 to 2% overnight and still has 80% or so left if not used for a few days.
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I'm running CM11 Snapshot M3 and haven't been able to find a user friendly way to automatically get wifi off during sleep.
The built-in "turn off wifi during sleep" setting does not seem to be working.
Battery Doctor (Battery Saver) doesn't seem to work well on this ROM. After installing, it would seem to let me change the screen brightness (the slider would move), but then it would revert back to 20%. The app then crashed, and attempting to run it again after rebooting results in a black screen of death.
I've tried a couple other apps like WiFi Auto-Off and Advanced Battery Saver - Free, and neither succeeded in shutting off wifi during sleep.
Granted, I did not try CPU tuner with this ROM. I've tried it in the past and found it very unfriendly.
Anyone have a user friendly method to automatically get wifi off during sleep on CM11?
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Granted, I did not try CPU tuner with this ROM. I've tried it in the past and found it very unfriendly.
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I decided to give CPU Tuner another shot and it seems to work some of the time. I haven't been able to figure out what the difference is between the times it works and the times it doesn't.
InUrKitchin said:
I decided to give CPU Tuner another shot and it seems to work some of the time. I haven't been able to figure out what the difference is between the times it works and the times it doesn't.
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I just use the available quick toggles in CM11 to manually (1) switch off WiFi and (2) go to sleep.
Yes, there is a quick toggle for go to sleep.
I've pretty much have gave up on ever having great battery life on my Nook. Just the nature of the beast Still a great little tablet
Since all those apps automate disable wi-fi when system sleeps and you won't get any notifications if android apps. try to poll data from internet, I just set wi-fi to automatically turn off in android wi-fi advanced menus, there is no need of any of those apps since android system can do the same thing.
Nookt Tablet goes Nuts less than 50% Battery
Currently running CM 11 snapshot 5
Whenever my nook gets below 50% battery it goes nuts. apps open themselves, then shut down, windows open, if I am watching a video it stops then begins at the beginning. Weird.
Have had this issue before and was hoping with the upgrade it would stop, but no dice.
Help?
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Currently running CM 11 snapshot 5
Whenever my nook gets below 50% battery it goes nuts. apps open themselves, then shut down, windows open, if I am watching a video it stops then begins at the beginning. Weird.
Have had this issue before and was hoping with the upgrade it would stop, but no dice.
Help?
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I have the same issue with my Nook Tablet. I will get to about 43% and it flips out. Apps opening, settings opening, Apps close, airplane mode comes, etc. I have to plug it back in to undo the mess and continue using it. I've had this issue with AndoidForNook's builds as well as the CM-acclaim 10.2.1 build.
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I have the same issue with my Nook Tablet. I will get to about 43% and it flips out. Apps opening, settings opening, Apps close, airplane mode comes, etc. I have to plug it back in to undo the mess and continue using it. I've had this issue with AndoidForNook's builds as well as the CM-acclaim 10.2.1 build.
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Thanks, glad to know it's not just me and I don't have a real "ghost in the machine". I use my Nook on the train everyday, couple times a week I have to pull out an external battery to keep it going.
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With my Note 4, it would wake up from Android Doze, or simply not enter that state if there was movement of the phone. I felt stupid needing to pick up my phone every 10 min to give it a small shake, but at least it seemed to work. I keep my phone in my pocket when I'm working outside and that always kept the Note 4 from falling into Doze mode. Not so with the S9+. It drops into Doze even in my pocket. Anyway to stop that from happening? Like others here, I feel frustrated needing to activate my screen to find out if there are notifications.
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With my Note 4, it would wake up from Android Doze, or simply not enter that state if there was movement of the phone. I felt stupid needing to pick up my phone every 10 min to give it a small shake, but at least it seemed to work. I keep my phone in my pocket when I'm working outside and that always kept the Note 4 from falling into Doze mode. Not so with the S9+. It drops into Doze even in my pocket. Anyway to stop that from happening? Like others here, I feel frustrated needing to activate my screen to find out if there are notifications.
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That's not Doze mode. Doze is when Android puts apps to sleep that are in memory not being used. This is done to save battery (and processing time?).
So what is happening here, if I understand, is that your phone display is going blank when you pull it from your pocket?
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That's not Doze mode. Doze is when Android puts apps to sleep that are in memory not being used. This is done to save battery (and processing time?).
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Doze was originally described as putting your phone into a power saving sleep mode after 20 min of "inactivity". The issue that caused me problems back then was not about the apps, but that notifications pushed to the device were queued up by the system until your phone "woke up", then the notifications would come rolling through. This happened at the system level regardless of app.
Perhaps in the latest version of Android they have changed the definition of Doze, but another poster was having a lot of issues with notifications (mostly email) and the culprit was deemed to be Doze.
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So what is happening here, if I understand, is that your phone display is going blank when you pull it from your pocket?
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No. My display is blank (as it should be) when I put it into my pocket, as well as when I pull it out. I always shut the screen off before putting my phone down, or in my pocket.
If I put my phone in my pocket, and 5-10 min later I get a notification, it comes through loud and clear and I pull my phone out and check it. If 20+ min has gone by without me having a reason to turn the screen on, then I stop getting notifications. When I pull it out to check the time or send a message, suddenly the notifications come rolling through.
Again, I was used to this if the Note 4 was put down, but this behavior is new to me if the phone is moving about.
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Doze was originally described as putting your phone into a power saving sleep mode after 20 min of "inactivity". The issue that caused me problems back then was not about the apps, but that notifications pushed to the device were queued up by the system until your phone "woke up", then the notifications would come rolling through. This happened at the system level regardless of app.
Perhaps in the latest version of Android they have changed the definition of Doze, but another poster was having a lot of issues with notifications (mostly email) and the culprit was deemed to be Doze.
No. My display is blank (as it should be) when I put it into my pocket, as well as when I pull it out. I always shut the screen off before putting my phone down, or in my pocket.
If I put my phone in my pocket, and 5-10 min later I get a notification, it comes through loud and clear and I pull my phone out and check it. If 20+ min has gone by without me having a reason to turn the screen on, then I stop getting notifications. When I pull it out to check the time or send a message, suddenly the notifications come rolling through.
Again, I was used to this if the Note 4 was put down, but this behavior is new to me if the phone is moving about.
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I concur. Same happens to me.
I don't have this issue at all. I have my phone in my pocket most of the day and don't need to "wake" the phone up for notifications. I can leave my phone unattended for hour or 3 and it still receives the notifications without issues. I don't know if I have turned on a setting that mine works different, but I must say that my battery life isn't that great....as if the phone never sleeps/doze at all
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I don't have this issue at all. I have my phone in my pocket most of the day and don't need to "wake" the phone up for notifications. I can leave my phone unattended for hour or 3 and it still receives the notifications without issues. I don't know if I have turned on a setting that mine works different, but I must say that my battery life isn't that great....as if the phone never sleeps/doze at all
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I'm curious. Do you have any of the power saving modes turned on? Do you use "always on display"?
I never use the power save modes. Aod is on from 5 in the morning till 8 at night
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I never use the power save modes. Aod is on from 5 in the morning till 8 at night
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AoD could be keeping your phone awake, preventing Doze. The power saving features talks about putting apps to sleep, so unless you use them, that could also be disabling Doze. I could try changing the power saving settings, though it seems like a shame. I have zero interesting in AoD for multiple reasons, so it's not worth it for me to use that to solve my problems.
Thanks for the information!
Doze changed in Nougat, I believe, so that motion no longer prevented Doze from working. Since most men, at least, carry their phone in their pocket Doze hardly ever kicked in, greatly limiting its power saving capability.
You can exempt specific apps from Doze if you want to get notifications from them even when dozing.
Settings / Apps / 3 dot menu / special access / Optimize battery usage. Select All Apps from the drop down. Turn off the toggle for any apps you don't want to Doze.
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Doze was originally described as putting your phone into a power saving sleep mode after 20 min of "inactivity". The issue that caused me problems back then was not about the apps, but that notifications pushed to the device were queued up by the system until your phone "woke up", then the notifications would come rolling through. This happened at the system level regardless of app.
Perhaps in the latest version of Android they have changed the definition of Doze, but another poster was having a lot of issues with notifications (mostly email) and the culprit was deemed to be Doze.
No. My display is blank (as it should be) when I put it into my pocket, as well as when I pull it out. I always shut the screen off before putting my phone down, or in my pocket.
If I put my phone in my pocket, and 5-10 min later I get a notification, it comes through loud and clear and I pull my phone out and check it. If 20+ min has gone by without me having a reason to turn the screen on, then I stop getting notifications. When I pull it out to check the time or send a message, suddenly the notifications come rolling through.
Again, I was used to this if the Note 4 was put down, but this behavior is new to me if the phone is moving about.
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Yes, I am confusing Doze with the Samsung power saving options. Blah!
I know the battery life will decrease with aod, but I have noticed that even without aod on my battery drop 2% per hour, so I leave it on...There are days that I can go 1 day and 8 hours before charging, but then my sot is only 2 hours....In general I'm happy with the battery life
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You can exempt specific apps from Doze if you want to get notifications from them even when dozing.
Settings / Apps / 3 dot menu / special access / Optimize battery usage. Select All Apps from the drop down. Turn off the toggle for any apps you don't want to Doze.
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Thanks!
It seems oddly redundant needing to do essentially the same thing in two places. One well advertised under the battery settings, and the other one hidden under settings/apps/special access.
Hopefully this will fix my problems. Glad to know there is a work around.
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Thanks!
It seems oddly redundant needing to do essentially the same thing in two places. One well advertised under the battery settings, and the other one hidden under settings/apps/special access.
Hopefully this will fix my problems. Glad to know there is a work around.
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The two settings really are doing different things. Samsung's (in the battery settings), puts apps to sleep after 3 to 7 days (depending on your settings). The won't wake up again until you use them. Doze (the pretty much hidden option in Apps), lets the apps wake up on their own, when you start using the phone, even if you don't access those particular apps.
I'm not sure why the Doze setup is buried so deep in settings, though. I guess Google (or Samsung?) really doesn't want you interfering with it.
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The two settings really are doing different things. Samsung's (in the battery settings), puts apps to sleep after 3 to 7 days (depending on your settings). The won't wake up again until you use them.
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I made a mistake of putting an app to sleep that I use to keep my screen awake. It uses a widget to toggle it on/off, but will shut off along with the screen if you intentionally shut your screen off. After putting that app to sleep, the widget stopped working. I had to go find the actual app, start it, then quickly flip back to my home screen and click on the widget. I couldn't undo my "sleep" action on that app. I changed it to "unmonitored", so that the S9+ would never put it to sleep. I rebooted. I shut off the power saving options. Nothing worked. Everytime I would go to the widget (unless I just started the actual app), it wouldn't react to clicking on the widget.
I finally gave up and uninstalled the app from my phone. Rebooted. Reinstalled it and now it works fine. So I'm not sure I agree with "puts the app to sleep in 3 to 7 days". Maybe 3-7 minutes...
Well, 3 to 7 days is what Samsung says, and the optional range you can set in the app. Don't know what specifically happened with that widget, though.
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Well, 3 to 7 days is what Samsung says, and the optional range you can set in the app. Don't know what specifically happened with that widget, though.
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Where is the setting(s) for optimal range? I don't remember specifying that. I thought it was more of an on/off thing. White listed (unmonitored resource consumption) or black listed (never let it run in the background). Then apps in neither list it reports to you and you can force them to sleep or not.
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Where is the setting(s) for optimal range? I don't remember specifying that. I thought it was more of an on/off thing. White listed (unmonitored resource consumption) or black listed (never let it run in the background). Then apps in neither list it reports to you and you can force them to sleep or not.
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Samsung does bury things....
Settings / Device maintenance, click Battery at the bottom.
Then click the 3 dot menu at the top, and Advanced Settings.
Tap App power monitor (the text, not the toggle).
Tap Put unused apps to sleep (again, the text).
You can set the slider anywhere between 3 days and 7.
I spent several days just wandering through every settings option I could find after I setup the phone. Discovered all kinds of hidden things. Sometimes I can even remember where I saw them.