I think this is iPad and Transformer Prime killer....tablet with ultra light removable keyboard builded in stk like "smart cover".
http://www.youtube.com/user/surface?feature=results_main
It includes 2x USB ports natively not sure how they squeezed those but Bravo Microsoft. There is Zero use for an iPad at this point and its expensive add-ons, its dead.
Windows RT model: 676 g, 9.3 mm, 10.6" ClearType HD Display, 31.5 W-h, microSD, USB 2.0, Micro HD Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae, 32 GB or 64 GB.
Windows 8 Pro: 903 g, 13.5 mm, 10.6" ClearType Full HD Display, 42 W-h, microSDXC, USB 3.0, Mini DisplayPort Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae, 64 GB or 128 GB.
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Wow amazing commercial, don't know if its a killer but still, fantastic advertising
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I don't know if it will kill the ipad, I hope it will bring serious competition to it tho.
I've been using 8, and I absolutely dig it. I think software wise the pieces are falling into place for windows 8 to be more of a success than people expect. With the tie in with all the content options you will have that MS provides with XBOX. The thing that they are bringing to the table that android hasn't is content.
Let me clarify we do have play but compared to what itunes offers, android lacks. Android tab makers don't seem to see past initial purchase, they seem to just want to sell you another tablet. If there were more content available then android tabs would be continuous streams of revenue.
As far as killing the prime, and as much as I love my Prime I think it kinna "fell on the sword" right after release.
The Microsoft hardware looks brilliant. I have been thoroughly disappointed with Microsoft's mobile offerings to-date. They just never seemed to "get it". I would love it if they finally got it right, but I am skeptical.
The hardware looks amazing. I'm not sold on Windows yet, I just wish there was an Android tablet that had hardware with as much quality and thought put into it as the iPad and seemingly the Surface.
The only reason why i bought prime (first tablet) was to tide over 2012, and wait for win8 tablets to become more affordable.
now that Microsoft is in the game gives me goose bumps...
i will not repeat the mistake i made with prime... will wait for the dust to settle in.
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I look forward to replacing my Prime with the Pro model of the Surface tablet.
Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Nokia?
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That looks pretty cool.. As a few people have said, MS have never really got the mobile bit right.. But we will see!
Cool commercial... Dunno about ipad/prime killer. The magnetic cover looks cool, but I wonder how it will type/sit on your lap for example.
Also, we'll first have to wait for it to actually be available and who knows what kind of other tablets will be out by then.
It's not going to kill anything, maybe apart from MS. (allthough I highly doubt that too).
Unless MS changes their licensing deal, OEMs have to pay too much for win8 making this tablet way too expensive.
Regular customers will not buy it at 400 euro's or more. The even more expensive one, with the ivy bridge chip might hit it big in the corporate section, but I doubt the "big bucks" are made there, in terms of repeating customers and sales of for instance software due too an hugh marketshare.
Maybe in a year or two, when win8 has more marketshare and more people know about the product it might make an impact, but not this specific tablet. (allthough it does look nice). But then again, what do we really know of these tablets? What is the batterylife in real life, what wil be the prices?
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Wow amazing commercial, don't know if its a killer but still, fantastic advertising
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When the Prime was announced, we all said it was a Killer!
The only ones who got killed were the customers and ASUS reputation as quality brand.
Chill out with expectations, when has MS released a product, that was a killer?
Well, They are talking price range on the good one of about $1,000. So it will be going head to head with ultrabooks. So for twice the price a year from now it had best be better!
The last time I saw a keyboard like this was on ZX81.
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Let's hope not. I think it was a terrible mistake on Google's part to partner with Asus on the Nexus tablet.
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I honestly think that the Surface (and other Windows 8 tablets) will be an Android Tablet killer. MS will probably never make the inroad they need in the phone market, but they have a golden opportunity in tablets. Just think of the myriad of MS fans that have picked up an Android product (like the TFP) just because it is not an iPad. It could, in turn lead to Windows 8 phone sales increases, though, if the Surface (and other Windows 8 tabs) are a success.
I speak from experience as I have purchased now 5 Android tablets searching for the "one". Let me tell you, I haven't found it (though, I have to say the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is as close as I have gotten thus far).
We also know that MS, like Google, has a road map that is paved with mis-steps (like the Zune - though my Zune 80GB is my favorite MP3) so yes, they still have time to screw this all up!
More and more manufacturers are going to make products like the TFP that actually work - I guess you can say that they will learn from Asus' mistakes.
Exciting tech times we live in! I am not a fanboi of any one OS or manufacturer, so really exciting for me!
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I honestly think that the Surface (and other Windows 8 tablets) will be an Android Tablet killer. MS will probably never make the inroad they need in the phone market, but they have a golden opportunity in tablets.
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The problem is that the boundary between them will blur a lot. It's not clear that tablets by themselves will be a sustainable market. I rather suspect that what will eventually happen is that you'll carry around a core that acts as a phone, but plug it into 'docks' that add things like larger screens, input like keyboards, and so forth. (And, if wireless keeps moving along, maybe not even 'plug in'.)
I will say that I've been a Linux partisan for a while, but I do give MS credit for making solid hardware. There's a reason their mice and keyboards are still popular. From a hardware perspective, this new tablet does look solid and well-thought-out. (Including an actual kickstand? Why isn't that standard on tablets?) I don't have enough experience with Windows 8 to say if the software will really work. The problem is, Microsoft has a history of trouble sealing the deal. (Anyone remember the Zune?)
And I have to say that I'm not as down on the TF201 as some here. My wife surprised me with one (fifteenth anniversary and all), and I've been enjoying it. No, it is not a complete laptop replacement. But - aside from slow and quirky file management - it's been working well for me, and the battery life is delicious.
Maybe a few years down the road I'll buy whatever the 3rd-generation Microsoft tablet is. But for now the advantages aren't enough to make me switch from the TF201.
What I'm expecting:
- Terrible battery life on Pro
- Very high price
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Let's hope not. I think it was a terrible mistake on Google's part to partner with Asus on the Nexus tablet.
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I've been thinking about this as well. I really think that choice may come back to bite Google in the ass.
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according to zdnet, MS is going the Apple route and making it themselves....
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/with-surface-tablet-microsoft-breaks-tradition/12957
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AnandTech calls the Transformer Prime the "Best Android Tablet on the market"
ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime Review Part II: Battery Life & More
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5175/asus-transformer-prime-followup
ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jXRoO06aACQ
Yeah, found this really interesting when it was posted here yesterday. A lot of good information.
its easy to be the best when you're the only one running tegra 3....for now....
Its left to be seen how long it'll be "the best".
what's most interesting is that he explains that there was, in fact, a wifi problem. Explains what it was, and how ASUS fixed it temporarily.
I expect we might find in newer revs that the wifi has been placed behind a plastic disk in the back aluminum plate because a dual antenna solution doesn't appear to be a perfect fix.
I think it was a rush bandaid done on a huge mess of production tablets to meet preorders. I think they will have a newer solution once it starts shipping to Europe.
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what's most interesting is that he explains that there was, in fact, a wifi problem. Explains what it was, and how ASUS fixed it temporarily.
I expect we might find in newer revs that the wifi has been placed behind a plastic disk in the back aluminum plate because a dual antenna solution doesn't appear to be a perfect fix.
I think it was a rush bandaid done on a huge mess of production tablets to meet preorders. I think they will have a newer solution once it starts shipping to Europe.
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I doubt it. When they got a unit with both antennas working they had perfectly fine wifi performance so I doubt they would make a design change when its working fine. Plus I think a plastic window would look pretty bad on that brushed aluminum backing.
I felt Anand's review was slightly biased towards Apple because he really likes the MBA.
Basically, he said it was better than a netbook, but not good enough to replace an ultrabook/MBA. IMHO, if it's better than a netbook, it's good enough for probably 90% of the users. The MBA isn't exactly what I would call a "real" laptop in any case.
As far as I can recall, no review sees the big picture of how having one device that replaces two (tablet+laptop) ultimately simplifies computing (and life). Oh well.
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I felt Anand's review was slightly biased towards Apple because he really likes the MBA.
Basically, he said it was better than a netbook, but not good enough to replace an ultrabook/MBA. IMHO, if it's better than a netbook, it's good enough for probably 90% of the users. The MBA isn't exactly what I would call a "real" laptop in any case.
As far as I can recall, no review sees the big picture of how having one device that replaces two (tablet+laptop) ultimately simplifies computing (and life). Oh well.
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I think it's absolutely true that, for many people, a TF/Prime+dock won't replace a notebook. There's just not quite the right software yet, particularly in MS Office editing apps, and there are still some things that are just downright painful to do on an Android tablet (even with the dock).
That's not to knock the Prime+dock, because of course it's better for yet other things than notebooks. Incredibly long battery life, no heat (so can be used comfortably in more settings), etc. are real advantages.
Bottom line is that both devices have their place, which is why I'll have both.
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I felt Anand's review was slightly biased towards Apple because he really likes the MBA.
Basically, he said it was better than a netbook, but not good enough to replace an ultrabook/MBA. IMHO, if it's better than a netbook, it's good enough for probably 90% of the users. The MBA isn't exactly what I would call a "real" laptop in any case.
As far as I can recall, no review sees the big picture of how having one device that replaces two (tablet+laptop) ultimately simplifies computing (and life). Oh well.
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Really? He recommended the Prime so I don't know about bias...
I mean he likes the MBA, yes. But, the air is a good product -- just because it's an Apple product, doesn't mean he is biased. (IMO the Air is a laptop) And he's right, the tablet with dock isn't very productive. (relative to more robust systems) I don't even recall if he said the Prime was better than a netbook -- because productivity-wise, it's not. He said it'll probably be okay for most users but he wouldn't go so far as to say that it was a "laptop replacement" or even a "netbook replacement".
In fact, I don't think he went far enough. This is not an ideal product to get work done. For real productivity, a computer OS is recommended. For tablet use (like quick emails and such) then yes, the prime is great. But, as I used my original tablet + dock, I came to realize that typing wasn't that great of an experience. The typing was slow on a lot of sites (the lag was very evident), it was missing spell check (that's pretty important for me), Google docs SUCKED on tablets, the keys were quite cramped (expected but still wasn't comfortable), excel/powerpoint editing was a pain, and Polaris was missing an auto save feature/spelling/grammar check.
I think some of these points are addressed in the Prime but I still think that if you are a person who uses office a lot (especially if you plan to do anything besides just word documents) then I'm not sure the dock is useful. In the end, I didn't even bother with the dock anymore since it was just an extra thing to carry around. I DLed a very cool thumb keyboard that proved extremely useful for typing on tablets. (I can't seem to remember the name and I sold my tablet + dock recently) It seemed faster to use the on screen keyboard than the dock in some instances.
I would also be wary about typing essays on this thing. I think they fixed most of the crashes but there isn't an auto save feature so I would be extremely annoyed if something happened to my work. (I had rare Polaris/Honeycomb crashes but they did happen) I want to think about what to type -- not worry about remembering to save every 5 minutes.
I actually think everyone sees this as a fusion of the laptop and tablet... but it's not. (and most of it is due to software issues) As a tablet, it was superb; but, as a laptop, it was extremely underwhelming.
I guess for me the idea that a small laptop (13-in and under) is "comfortable" doesn't make sense. Heck, I only find the 17-in ones to be good enough.
Not knocking (only) the MBA, but those laptop keyboards cannot compare to a regular desktop keyboard. And it's hard to manage many windows / data sources on a small laptop screen. On the desktop PC, I'm probably at least twice as efficient as on my laptop.
So, I think it's all relative. The Prime might not be great for long documents, but should be good enough, especially compared to the iPad.
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I actually think everyone sees this as a fusion of the laptop and tablet... but it's not. (and most of it is due to software issues) As a tablet, it was superb; but, as a laptop, it was extremely underwhelming.
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I think that the TF/Prime+dock is better as a notebook than a notebook is as a tablet. Not perfect, but it works in a pinch.
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He also was talking a lot about Honeycomb in the video review and at the end talked about seeing if it improves with ICS.
Was this tablet not meant to be a ICS launch tablet, if thats true then we cant really see how well it does until the ICS update is here.
wynand32 said:
I think that the TF/Prime+dock is better as a notebook than a notebook is as a tablet. Not perfect, but it works in a pinch.
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Let me see you recalculate a 5GB Excel spreadsheet on any tablet. Same thing for a 10GB PowerPoint with imbedded video. Tablets are OK as desktop replacements for light duty, but the heavy stuff chokes them both h/w and s/w wise. Also, when you create complicated documents in any of the fake-Office products they appear funky to people opening them in real-Office. So typically you have to do some clean-up on a desktop or laptop with anything you create on a tablet.
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Let me see you recalculate a 5GB Excel spreadsheet on any tablet. Same thing for a 10GB PowerPoint with imbedded video. Tablets are OK as desktop replacements for light duty, but the heavy stuff chokes them both h/w and s/w wise. Also, when you create complicated documents in any of the fake-Office products they appear funky to people opening them in real-Office. So typically you have to do some clean-up on a desktop or laptop with anything you create on a tablet.
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Methinks you're missing my point.
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He also was talking a lot about Honeycomb in the video review and at the end talked about seeing if it improves with ICS.
Was this tablet not meant to be a ICS launch tablet, if thats true then we cant really see how well it does until the ICS update is here.
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Asus or any other manufacturer can use ICS on a product. The Zoom was the HC launch tablet but there aren't any official tablets for the launch of ICS. It's whoever gets there first. Samsung was the official launch partner for ICS in general with the Galaxy Nexus.
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Methinks you're missing my point.
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Must have... Other than the convenience of a touch screen, what can't you do on a laptop that you can do on an Android tablet?
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Must have... Other than the convenience of a touch screen, what can't you do on a laptop that you can do on an Android tablet?
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I think you nailed it on the head: convenience. A touch screen with 16 hours of convenience.
I mean what is the point of a laptop when a desktop has twice the power for half the money, with a larger screen and better ergonomics, and can do a heck of a lot more? Same difference.
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Asus or any other manufacturer can use ICS on a product. The Zoom was the HC launch tablet but there aren't any official tablets for the launch of ICS. It's whoever gets there first. Samsung was the official launch partner for ICS in general with the Galaxy Nexus.
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Must have... Other than the convenience of a touch screen, what can't you do on a laptop that you can do on an Android tablet?
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Android apps???
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Asus or any other manufacturer can use ICS on a product. The Zoom was the HC launch tablet but there aren't any official tablets for the launch of ICS. It's whoever gets there first. Samsung was the official launch partner for ICS in general with the Galaxy Nexus.
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Must have... Other than the convenience of a touch screen, what can't you do on a laptop that you can do on an Android tablet?
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Well, quite a few things, of course. Comfortably hold at an ergonomic distance for ebook reading and watching video. Use in settings where a notebook is untenable (e.g., lounging on the couch). And the touchscreen is more than just a "convenience." It affords an entirely different user interface paradigm that's better suited for a number of tasks (e.g., email triage, casual browsing, photo selection, etc.).
My point is that both types of devices have their uses, and comparing them is pretty meaningless. If a person can only afford one, then that person would need to really assess their needs before choosing one over the other. Saying a notebook is the better device is like saying a car is better than a motorcycle--which is only true if you evaluate the motorcycle by the standards of a car. Judged by the standards of a motorcycle, a car falls short.
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Well, quite a few things, of course...
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I finally got what you're saying and mostly agree. This thread-within-a-thread started with the limitations of a tablet for heavy duty computing which is true. I bought a tablet (in addition to a laptop) for all the reasons you listed. It's a fantastic consumption device. If someone owns both they can pick the one that suits what they're doing at the moment best. To pick only one is a personal choice depending on what it's going to be used for. I think a couple of us just wanted to, from experience, make sure others didn't think that tablet+keyboard+Teg3 is going to do all that a Windows or iOS laptop can do and as well. Anyone that's lost a couple of pages of work in a fake-Office product will attest to that.
Assuming you have access to a desktop machine somewhere, RDP/VNC is quite good at solving these heavyweight application needs - or the question of how to access an IE-only web interface on a tablet. It isn't perfect, and it won't solve all of the issues, but I can see it maybe making quite a difference to the way most of us use PCs.
This worries me: "Aluminum does a fairly good job of attenuating RF signals, which contributes to worse range on WiFi than the original plastic Eee Pad Transformer. WiFi performance at the edge of reception as well as the maximum usable WiFi range are both noticeably lower than its predecessor."
My current Transformer is barely registering my WiFi router when I'm in other room. I'll have to change the router or sth.
Interested in knowing what ASUS is up to for the rest of the year when it comes to the subject of tablets? You’re in luck because at a press event in Taipei today, Samson Hu, the Vice President and General Manager of the Eee Systems Business Unit revealed the company’s tablet roadmap for 2012.
The Transformer Prime will also be getting a 3G version sometime this March and it will pack a more powerful GPS module. At CES, ASUS will be unveiling a 7″ tablet (rumored to be the ASUS Memo) and a 10″ with a high resolution display (could be a completely new tablet or the upgraded Transformer Prime with 3G and better GPS). There are also two more 10″ tablets slated for the second half of 2012.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/01/asus-tablet-roadmap-2012-revealed/
the fact that Asus is basically doubling it android division to like 400 or more employees and Windows 8 division will only have 150 employees doesn't look too good for Windows 8 at the moment. Clearly shows their focus is mainly on Android. Either way once Windows 8 releases, we will be able to load it up on Prime or dual boot. I'd rather be able to do that vs. a single OS device only. We already got Backtrack5(Hacker Linux) running on Prime so outlook looks good.
I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
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I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
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How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
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How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
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+1 on that, even if I realize I'm lucky being Italian, which means that I had the chance to see various reactions and enough time to decide whether going for the Prime or not. Obviously, if Asus will announce the Prime 3G at CES, I'll wait for it since I have an Acer Iconia A500 in the meanwhile.
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I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
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It wasn't "bait and switch", unless the ONLY reason you bought a TFP was for the GPS. If you did, that's just sad...
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How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
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That's true. But what if they released the Model A, and then six months later released an updated Model A with more features? The people who bought the first Model A might feel burned. OK, I'm done being negative. I agree with your point of view, and I believe that progress is good. Sorry, super tired and still struggling with all of the buggers in the General forum that are trying really hard to make people not enjoy this super awesome tablet. I wish there was a "View Positive Posts Only" option in the XDA.
one will be called the transformer light! tf201x and tf201xg (found this info in the honeycomb system files!)
I am thinking they might go with maybe a 10.1 inch, higher than 1080p screen made of superlight plastic along with a super IPS++ display! Kinda like how you had a DS lite! along with 2gb of ram...... Hopefully it will be able to be used with the same dock as the tf201!
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That's true. But what if they released the Model A, and then six months later released an updated Model A with more features? The people who bought the first Model A might feel burned. OK, I'm done being negative. I agree with your point of view, and I believe that progress is good. Sorry, super tired and still struggling with all of the buggers in the General forum that are trying really hard to make people not enjoy this super awesome tablet. I wish there was a "View Positive Posts Only" option in the XDA.
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I get what you're saying.
(I do want to point out though that it was almost the exact scenario between the first Model A and the first Model B...it was about 6 months between their releases back in 1903/1904.)
You just have to bite the bullet on technology purchases in general; find yourself something you want to buy, then realize that just after you unboxed it, it's no longer the top dog anymore.
I think what Adam is trying to say is it sucks doing research and sinking hard earned money into something that 6 months later will be yesterdays news. I know that's the way it goes but still kind of disappointing. I'm looking for that complete product. Gets expensive ebaying the old and sinking several hundred into another new product.
On another front for those RMA'ing the Prime for GPS issues and ASUS saying they will fix, could they be putting in a Beefier GPS like what's in the upcoming ones? Just a thought.
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That is kind of weird, I would expect them to put more people on windows instead of android. I love android for what it is but I feel like windows is just a much more complete platform. I mean its a little early to judge how well windows 8 is going to run on ARM systems, if its anything close to the windows 8 I installed on my eee slate (ULV i5), then I think it's going be incredible.
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Gets expensive ebaying the old and sinking several hundred into another new product.
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The unfortunate cost of surfing the front wave of technology, right?
i plan on waiting for CES then if something cooler with way better specs comes out I will RMA my dock and tablet plus case to amazon (will only lose about 100 bucks...)
But they catch is it needs to be out within a few weeks after CES!
But anyways we all know we will have tegra4 this summer! kael+ so yeah technology is always moving forward! they never stop and try to squeeze all they life out of it like Game consoles have (ps3 and xbox now 5 years old!)
You just gotta get something stick with your purchase and be happy! then in a year to a year and a half sell it and buy something new!
I plan on buying the Galaxy Nexus when it is released on sprint! even though the next nexus will probaly be out 8 months later!
But i badly need the replacement i cant stand my evo 4g that wont charge unless you hold down the cord! its a pain in the but!
Plus i know the galaxy nexus software will be supported for atleast 20 months long enough to get me to my next upgrade!!
So if you want it buy it basically you cant stop better stuff from coming out!
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Those in the U.S., unless offered by a carrier, a 3G Prime will do you absolutely no good. HTC, LG, Sony, Acer, Archos, Samsung, and Motorola all already offer carrier-free 3G tablets, none of which are available in the U.S. You can import a 3G Prime from overseas but it'll cost you $700ish. If you get a carrier version, you'll either pay $700ish or have to commit to a two year data plan to get a subsidized price. So unless Asus does something that they nor any manufacturer have never done before, bring a 3G device to the U.S. without carrier support, the 3G announcement doesn't mean a whole lot here. And the iPad's not a relevant comparison. Apple dictates what the carriers do, not vice versa. Asus isn't Apple.
As for a higher spec 10" tablet that makes all the sense in the world. With the Lenovo and Acer already announced with higher-res displays, more RAM, and faster processors, Asus should offer a more premium tablet priced higher than the Prime to compete. Display resolution (whether it matters or not) is going to be the hot topic in tablets in 2012. Venturing a guess, I'd say the premium tablet won't have a keyboard dock still leaving that as the Prime's biggest singular feature.
In spite of all issues I am still buying prime. Why? I don't care about gps - i didn't intend to use it as gps-turn-by-turn device anyway, I love its performance, I love the fact, that we will get unlock tool, I hope we as xda-community will be able to run Win8 and Ubuntu on it.
In regard to other announced primes:
- 3g version - I have good internet plan on my mobile, even now I am just ad-hoc connected from my eee 1000he, i dont plan to sign any other contract for mobile carriers. They are literary robbing me every month anyway .
- HD version in H2. If it is announced for H2, it will be avalible in the week before Christmas in Q4, not a day sooner. I need tablet earlier.
HD screen? Why would you need it? -For movies? -For Christ sake it's a tablet, go to your living room and watch a move on 47'' LCD! If you are away from home - 720p should suffice.
can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
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can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
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Programs that currently run on Windows under x86/x64 technology won't run under the ARM version of Windows unless someone compiles a version specifically for ARM processors. In fact most information out there states that the classic desktop interface won't be available on the ARM devices, only the metro interface.
Its pretty screwey for a company to release improved versions of a tablet (in less than 6 months).
A lot of Primes have major defects (GPS is broken on all primes but GPS isnt the only defect some primes have), i was lucky and finally got one that seems perfect so far but I had to order two, first one was crap (bad wifi,bad bluetooth,slow performance,long bootup time,screen bleed and a lot of FCs in apps).
Even apple gives people at least a year before they drop on a new and improved product. To me it def sounds like bait and switch sales tactics...
Oh well, my prime now is working well (i don't need gps) and i don't see a reason to upgrade for at least a year.
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can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
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See this is why windows 8 tablet edition is doomed.
The majority of people honestly believe they'll be getting the same windows they'd be getting on a desktop or laptop.
Windows 8 tablet is ARM, not x86. Meaning that you will only be able to run things developed or ported for ARM. You will NOT be able to just run any windows program.
It's yet another OS that needs things written for it specifically trying to play catch up with android and apples app market. I can't see it being useful at all for at least 6 months unless it's incredibly easy to port apps over, and I'm guessing it won't be considering you're looking at different APIs between OSes.
The only leg up this thing has over RIM, HP, and anyone else running something non ios/android is windows has name recognition and large market share in the x86 world. I imagine a lot of folks will be pissed to discover their exes won't just work on a tablet win8 though since I see folks constantly getting this wrong.
One of the things I like about the Prime is the price: $499 is still an industry-leading price for a leading-edge tablet with 32GB storage. I'm guessing that any sort of uber-Prime (HD screen, 2GB RAM, etc.) will be considerably more expensive.
I'm willing to go $650 for the Prime+keyboard dock. Anything more than that and I'd just bite the bullet and step up to an ultrabook and Kindle Fire combo.
So apparently google's nexus tablet will be made by asus. Personally i think it will be the asus memo announced at CES.
Google and Asustek will unveil a 7-inch co-branded tablet PC as early as May, with the model targeting Amazon's Kindle Fire and to be priced at US$199-249, according to industry sources.
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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120308PD215.html
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So apparently google's nexus tablet will be made by asus. Personally i think it will be the asus memo announced at CES.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120308PD215.html
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I do hope it is the 370t. 7 inch plus T3 best of both worlds.
I'd buy one, just for the hell of it, at $199. Hopefully Google will help subsidize this thing so they can hit that price point. A $199 ICS 7" Tegra 3 tablet with full Google services could be a killer. With the right promotions, it could compete nicely against an "iPad Mini."
Not that Android tablet makers (or Google, for that matter) have demonstrated an ability to effectively promote their products. But hey, there's always a first time!
Nothing's official yet. And as much as I like my TP, I seriously hope Asus won't be the one. None of their tablets has been perfect. So unless Google take over quality control, this could be a disaster.
Samsung is the way to go, but I guess after two hero phones, it's time to switch?
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Nothing's official yet. And as much as I like my TP, I seriously hope Asus won't be the one. None of their tablets has been perfect. So unless Google take over quality control, this could be a disaster.
Samsung is the way to go, but I guess after two hero phones, it's time to switch?
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I thought the transformer 1 was well received and one of the best android tablets you could get one it was out? Also, asus only has 2 tablets on the market.
And I dont think you could say any manufacturer has ever put out a tablet that has been perfect. A case could be made for the ipad with the lack of flash and its restrictions and what not. Its all based on preference.
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I'd buy one, just for the hell of it, at $199. Hopefully Google will help subsidize this thing so they can hit that price point. A $199 ICS 7" Tegra 3 tablet with full Google services could be a killer. With the right promotions, it could compete nicely against an "iPad Mini."
Not that Android tablet makers (or Google, for that matter) have demonstrated an ability to effectively promote their products. But hey, there's always a first time!
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I would buy one also if its that cheap. Best band for buck. No tablet maker would have something that cheaply princely with that much power. It should be a no brainstorm to choose that over a kindle fire or nook color. I can't believe I got so impatient, right before I got the prime, that I couldn't find OG transformer for the black Friday price that I almost considered getting an acer100 7in. Or a kindle fire..lol. so glad I didn't. I did have my eye on Toshiba thrive bit heard too many horror stories on its battery life. I loved the fact it had full size USB ports. Although it had tegra2, the display model in store seemed to have decent speed to it. But it wasn't priced cheap enough. Then I heard about Prime for only 100 more and way more powerful. There was no turning back once I had my mind set on Prime.
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I would buy one also if its that cheap. Best band for buck. No tablet maker would have something that cheaply princely with that much power. It should be a no brainstorm to choose that over a kindle fire or nook color. I can't believe I got so impatient, right before I got the prime, that I couldn't find OG transformer for the black Friday price that I almost considered getting an acer100 7in. Or a kindle fire..lol. so glad I didn't. I did have my eye on Toshiba thrive bit heard too many horror stories on its battery life. I loved the fact it had full size USB ports. Although it had tegra2, the display model in store seemed to have decent speed to it. But it wasn't priced cheap enough. Then I heard about Prime for only 100 more and way more powerful. There was no turning back once I had my mind set on Prime.
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Dont you hate word predict? lol.
I would buy it even at $250. As far as acer, I have an acer a100 now and its got leaked ICS, rooted, with buildprop changed to a500. Even has mod to make your micro SD as your internal. So you're not limited to 8gb or 16gb anymore. ICS made a huge difference. Smoother than prime in some cases like home screen and app drawer transition. Even stock browser is smoother. With the build.prop change I can see and play 90% of gameloft games. The only thing really sucks about it is when I HDMI out to TV it gets laggy due to only being dual core and ofcourse the battery life is only about 5 hours. I'll post a video in a bit so you can see how smooth it is.
But once the 370t comes out of course I have to get that to replace the a100.
Might take me a some time to record ICS but heres a video I made a while back when it was still on HC. So you can imagine how smoother it will be on ICS.
Everybody seems to forget that Google has bought Motorola mobility for a reason in addition to buying patents.
With Motorola, Google can build its own handset and its own tablet.
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Everybody seems to forget that Google has bought Motorola mobility for a reason in addition to buying patents.
With Motorola, Google can build its own handset and its own tablet.
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This is true but would show favoritism over other Android manufacturers. Causing them to pull out of Android scene. Which would hurt Google in the end. So its smart for Google to choose someone else to make new Google nexus device. It'll show they not favoring Motorola. Asus will likely be the creator of new Google Nexus tablet n it'll be powered by tegra3. With new reports now of Qualcomm S4 chips having manufacturing delays and setbacks, alot of new android devices that were going to use that chip will be delayed Now. Which leaves the door wide open for Tegra3 to continue being the top most powerful Android chip out there.
I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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You can attach a keyboard. Buy a bluetooth keyboard. It'll hook right up in less than a minute.
I can't guarantee the quality of this thing, but bluetooth keyboard cases exist.
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Tablet-Leather-Function/dp/B009Z3OY6Y/ref=pd_sbs_pc_12
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I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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1 example. Search "Bluetooth Tablet Keyboard" on Amazon or whatever your site of preference is for others.
Nice...I hope by DEC 26 I'll be able to get it in Toronto.
Let's say I have a document open is it easy to highlight with my fingers ? Nexus 7 is attractive but with 1gb of Ram I just can't ponder it. And battery life ? Decent ?
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e Nexus 7 is a powerful enough device with 1gb RAM which only sounds insufficient due to the 2gb devices that have come out(nexus 10). You could also consider the Asus Transformer series as you can get a keyboard dock with a built in battery and a full sized USB port, also a micro SD card slot but you won't get the vanilla android experience and timely updates like you will on the Nexus. It depends on what you prefer. Hope that helped.
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I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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Most tablets don't have specific keyboard attachments made by the manufacturer; Asus is the exception, if you think you need a keyboard, check out the Transformer series of tablets. I owned an Asus Tf700 tablet w/ the keyboard dock and IMO found the keyboard too small for accurate/quick typing. Instead, I use a Wacom Bamboo stylus and digitally "handwrite" my notes using two apps; 7Notes & Evernote. 7Notes is a keyboard replacement for handwriting text and actively converts your writing to typed text; in combo w/ Evernote, I love it. At the end of the day I have clean, organized & typed notes saved in the cloud on my Evernote account.
Me? I have a laptop w/ normal sized keyboard for typing; I bought my tablet for just that..a tablet lol.
My reasons for getting the N10:
- Pure Google/Android experience & almost instant updates. (2 yrs use is absolutely achievable w/ a Nexus device)
- Great specs & design doesn't look anything like an iPad + the display is gorgeous.
- And of course school; this includes taking notes as I'm also a college student.
Also, Highlighting text is pretty straight forward & easy for copy/paste actions.
I said to 1gb referring to the nexus 7. And using Bluetooth as a keyboard would kill battery. I'm on my phone will get to my desktop soon and research. I love the bonus power from the Asus tho.
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I have the exact same requirement too. I plan on reading docs, books, making notes and watch movies/tv shows occasionally. I plan on getting the nexus 10 seeing as it has the best screen res amongst all android tablets, thereby making reading books like harrisons medicine more convenient.
That being said, I will probably sell the N10 and order a Note 10.1 2 with a full HD display the moment it becomes available(at some point in the future). From what I've seen, the productivity on a note is unparallelled amongst android tabs.
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I have the exact same requirement too. I plan on reading docs, books, making notes and watch movies/tv shows occasionally. I plan on getting the nexus 10 seeing as it has the best screen res amongst all android tablets, thereby making reading books like harrisons medicine more convenient.
That being said, I will probably sell the N10 and order a Note 10.1 2 with a full HD display the moment it becomes available(at some point in the future). From what I've seen, the productivity on a note is unparallelled amongst android tabs.
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True ... Hopefully I can get $320 when I sell it.
Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Waiting game is hard, but be strong and wait till CES comes around. For a student, having a Wacom stylus is a must and N10 simply doesn't fit the bill. Like a previous poster said, lets hope they release higher-res followup to the Note.
May be just may be ASUS will wake up and add stylus to the Transformer line (TF1000 ?
The jury is out on Windows 8 RT - it is DOA ... darn shame, as MS Note is the best note taking app ever, period. Sammy has 2 Windows 8 tablet out (Ativs) out, but too many folx are complaining about quirky stylus, battery life doesn't even come close to android tablets or Ipad ... Surface Pro will suffer from the same short @ss battery life.
It is sad state of affairs in the tablet market, as far as students are concerned ... will probably take another year for the ultimate tablet to emerge.
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Waiting game is hard, but be strong and wait till CES comes around. For a student, having a Wacom stylus is a must and N10 simply doesn't fit the bill. Like a previous poster said, lets hope they release higher-res followup to the Note.
May be just may be ASUS will wake up and add stylus to the Transformer line (TF1000 ?
The jury is out on Windows 8 RT - it is DOA ... darn shame, as MS Note is the best note taking app ever, period. Sammy has 2 Windows 8 tablet out (Ativs) out, but too many folx are complaining about quirky stylus, battery life doesn't even come close to android tablets or Ipad ... Surface Pro will suffer from the same short @ss battery life.
It is sad state of affairs in the tablet market, as far as students are concerned ... will probably take another year for the ultimate tablet to emerge.
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Exactly..I plan on buying the N10 when I go to the US in Janary. I won't be taking it if there is an announcement of a new Note at CES(which is unlikely, considering its only been a couple of months since they brought out the Note).
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Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Battery life is fantastic. And in regards to "not enough apps for tablets", there's really nothing Google can do about that. That's up to app developers, not Google.
Not to mention, that Android tablets never reeall had the issues other tablets had.. most scale perfectly, and you wouldn't know they aren't for tablets (this goes for things like many games, web browsers, office aps, etc) . Those that do have problems are normally quick to get updates... frankly, the the issue is really overrated ..
I'm a student and I have been using it to study, although not take notes. I would not recommend this for taking notes because of the lack of the palm guard. Makes it very difficult and awkward to take notes on. As other posters have said, get the Galaxy Note 10.1 if you would like to take notes seriously. However, the Note 10.1 I ultimately decided against because the screen resolution got terrible reviews and I am huge on that, also the vanilla Android experience was too much for me to say no to. I really enjoy my Nexus 10 so far, and can get over the fact that there is no palm guard. Its a great device for the price overall
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Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Google has been doing its best to try and motivate and encourage the developers to create more tablet optimized apps. Read this...
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-wants-to-see-better-tablet-apps/
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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If you don't think the N10 is worth $400, you have a rude awakening coming when you see how much comparable tablets are in the marketplace, especially ones with stylus support out of the box!
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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Is definitely hard to beat for many aspects but this tablet just isn't right for you, I can respect that although you may ultimately be displeased with other tablets for reasons that the nexus 10 excels in. I do think you ought to look into the note 10.1 if you are most concerned about note taking. Good luck finding the right gadget sir or madam
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Well, I may have hit the jackpot last night. My wife said she would like to have a tablet for doing simple stuff like checking her email and lite web surfing without having to haul out her laptop. She then suggests that she really likes my Prime and maybe she could use that and I could get a new one
...Ding, ding, ding, ding....jackpot! Of course I'm having a charging issue with it at the moment so all of this depends on making that work...but thats a separate issue.
The thing is now I have to decide what to get for me to replace the prime and I actually really like my prime. What I love about the prime largely comes from the keyboard dock. Besides the physical keyboard which is a must for me:
1. Extra battery in the dock
2. SD card slot in the dock.
3. USB port in the dock. I use all kinds of things here. USB flash drives, USB wired ethernet, external hard drives, USB input devices, and even multiple devices at the same time with a USB mini hub.
By Prime is unlocked and running Hairy Bean 2.3.1. So I want somthing new that gives me all that functionality I get from the ASUS keyboard dock, is running at least Android 4.2 out of the box, and has the potential to root, unlock and custom ROM later (probably after the warranty expires).
Ideas?
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Well, I may have hit the jackpot last night. My wife said she would like to have a tablet for doing simple stuff like checking her email and lite web surfing without having to haul out her laptop. She then suggests that she really likes my Prime and maybe she could use that and I could get a new one
...Ding, ding, ding, ding....jackpot! Of course I'm having a charging issue with it at the moment so all of this depends on making that work...but thats a separate issue.
The thing is now I have to decide what to get for me to replace the prime and I actually really like my prime. What I love about the prime largely comes from the keyboard dock. Besides the physical keyboard which is a must for me:
1. Extra battery in the dock
2. SD card slot in the dock.
3. USB port in the dock. I use all kinds of things here. USB flash drives, USB wired ethernet, external hard drives, USB input devices, and even multiple devices at the same time with a USB mini hub.
By Prime is unlocked and running Hairy Bean 2.3.1. So I want somthing new that gives me all that functionality I get from the ASUS keyboard dock, is running at least Android 4.2 out of the box, and has the potential to root, unlock and custom ROM later (probably after the warranty expires).
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I wouldn't touch Asus tablets again after the mess they made of the Prime.
I know you want a dock so this doesn't really apply but if I was buying a new tablet any time soon I would probably get the new Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. The specs look great and I like the s-pen and the multitasking.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/
I suggest Nexus 10, but it has no dock as far as i know.
the only tablets with propitiatory docks are:
1. asus transformer series
2. iPad (BT though)
3. Microsoft surface (LAGGY)
4. Windows tablets (e.g. the lenovo yoga,dell XPS, sony ,etc)
personally, i would get
ONE: Asus PadFone just cause its technically the only tablet you can make 2/3G calls with
(and the asus padfone has 3 "transformable" states [phone --> tablet --> laptop/ultrabook)
PRICE: 1000
TWO Razer Edge PRO, its windows based, and we're android users, but that I7 core and dedicated grpahics is just amazing
PRICE: 1000-3000
I believe HP has just announced a new android tablet with a detachable keyboard as well. I think it is sporting a tegra 4 chip.
http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/ads/x2/slatebook-x2.html
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Not the TF700?
woot.com (and its various woot-ettes) have been running sales on TF300s and TF700s of late. They only do one item per day, but they have like ten thousand sites now, so you might get lucky.
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I believe HP has just announced a new android tablet with a detachable keyboard as well. I think it is sporting a tegra 4 chip.
http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/ads/x2/slatebook-x2.html
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Thanks for all the replies. I was looking hard at the HP with Android and the Tegra 4. Specs wise it looks really good. But....my wife ended up deciding she wanted a Windows based tablet. Not RT but a full Windows. So she ended up buying an HP Envy X2 which is really pretty nice (though a bit pricey at $619 on Amazon). I actually kind of like the thing though...she doesn't much like it now that she has it. Doesn't like Windows 8 at all even though we had been over it using a Surface Pro I have for work. Soooooo, today I downloaded Stardock's Start 8 which puts the Windows 7 start menu back where it belongs and lets you start directly to the desktop where most of her work is anyway. Basically I made it look as much like Windows 7 as I could without actually installing Windows 7.
Oh well. Looks like I'm sticking with my Prime for the foreseeable future. Which actually isn't a bad thing. I've got the latest and greatest from flumpster on there (HB 2.31) and it really works better than ever...actually it works the way Asus should have made it work in the first place. So, not a bad thing at all other than that I spent $619 on something my wife doesn't really like (hope she likes it better when she gets home today and sees how I Windows 7ized it for her).
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Thanks for all the replies. I was looking hard at the HP with Android and the Tegra 4. Specs wise it looks really good. But....my wife ended up deciding she wanted a Windows based tablet. Not RT but a full Windows. So she ended up buying an HP Envy X2 which is really pretty nice (though a bit pricey at $619 on Amazon). I actually kind of like the thing though...she doesn't much like it now that she has it. Doesn't like Windows 8 at all even though we had been over it using a Surface Pro I have for work. Soooooo, today I downloaded Stardock's Start 8 which puts the Windows 7 start menu back where it belongs and lets you start directly to the desktop where most of her work is anyway. Basically I made it look as much like Windows 7 as I could without actually installing Windows 7.
Oh well. Looks like I'm sticking with my Prime for the foreseeable future. Which actually isn't a bad thing. I've got the latest and greatest from flumpster on there (HB 2.31) and it really works better than ever...actually it works the way Asus should have made it work in the first place. So, not a bad thing at all other than that I spent $619 on something my wife doesn't really like (hope she likes it better when she gets home today and sees how I Windows 7ized it for her).
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How can you call a $600 tablet a "replacement" for a tf201? You can buy three tf201s for that and have a lot of change left over. I hate it when people compare the advantages of a $600 item with one that can be had for well under $200. Would you talk about Jaguars when looking for a Chevy replacement?
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How can you call a $600 tablet a "replacement" for a tf201? You can buy three tf201s for that and have a lot of change left over. I hate it when people compare the advantages of a $600 item with one that can be had for well under $200. Would you talk about Jaguars when looking for a Chevy replacement?
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It depends if you was comparing a brand new Chevy to a Jaguar coming to the end of its life cycle.
I hate it when people make analogies and try to make it suit their need. Do you think the Prime was under $200 when brand new?
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It depends if you was comparing a brand new Chevy to a Jaguar coming to the end of its life cycle.
I hate it when people make analogies and try to make it suit their need. Do you think the Prime was under $200 when brand new?
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BS. A 1960's Jag is still worth far more than a Chevy that's being "replaced". (Obviosly the Chevy isn't new either.) And anyone who paid the original price for a tf201 has probably replaced it long ago. There are new 10" tab;ets hitting the market regularly that sell for under $300.
But personally, I'm perfectly happy with my tf201. It is running Android 4.3, gets very good battery life and has an Antu benchmark of 14,562. You'd have a hard time finding a brand new tablet for under $400 that could match those specs.
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BS. A 1960's Jag is still worth far more than a Chevy that's being "replaced". (Obviosly the Chevy isn't new either.) And anyone who paid the original price for a tf201 has probably replaced it long ago. There are new 10" tab;ets hitting the market regularly that sell for under $300.
But personally, I'm perfectly happy with my tf201. It is running Android 4.3, gets very good battery life and has an Antu benchmark of 14,562. You'd have a hard time finding a brand new tablet for under $400 that could match those specs.
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Are you still trying to make that analogy work ?
I paid original price for the tf201 and still have it and so do many others. There has been nothing until now that has really made me want to upgrade.
When people replace things it doesn't have to be the same value as what the old one is worth. I'm pretty sure he can spend what he wants.
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Are you still trying to make that analogy work ?
I paid original price for the tf201 and still have it and so do many others. There has been nothing until now that has really made me want to upgrade.
When people replace things it doesn't have to be the same value as what the old one is worth. I'm pretty sure he can spend what he wants.
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Agree completely. Comparing what I could pay now for a two year old item with what a brand new one costs, doesn't make any sense. You basically have to compare what I originally paid for the Prime, new VS what I would pay today to get a similar new item. I just pulled up my Amazon.Com order for when I originally got my Prime to refresh my memory. Here was what was on it:
Prime: $474.99
Keyboard dock: $110.86
Case: $17.95
32GB Micro SD: $19.49
Shipping: $15.96
Total: $639.25 and I remember thinking I was getting a reasonably good deal at the time.
Take out the SD card and the case and it comes out to $601.81, or about the same price we paid for my Wife's new HP machine which came with the keyboard as standard. Everyone can decide for themselves if they like Windows 8. Hardware wise the Envy X2 is way faster than the Prime and it gets better battery life (similar configuration to the prime with a battery in both the tablet part and the keyboard).
But performance comparisons are not fair either. Of course the brand new Atom out performs the two year old Tegra 3. If I were buying an Android tablet today, I'd be looking for a Tegra 4 or similar,
Here is another way the analogy brakes down. Forget about an old Jag vs an old chevy. A better example is that I just bought a new 2013 Nissan truck. Now those have not changed all that much since introduced in 2005. I could probably buy two or three 2005's for what I paid for the 2013, but hey, I wanted a new one.
One final place where the analogy brakes down. A 1960's Jag qualifies as a "classic"/"vintage" where an outdated piece of computing hardware counts as "land fill" in pretty much everyone's book.
By the way, the whole purpose of this thread was not how much a prime or a windows tablet costs. The Idea was to find a newer, faster, better tablet that would also have all the features I like about the prime. Just saying.
PS: Flumpster, thanks for all your work on HB. It is because of you that the Prime is still relevant at all rather than (as I mentioned above) "land fill". It is also because of you and HB that I don't fee bad about hanging onto the Prime for a while.