About to buy one of these 2 similarly named phones and was wondering which is better. I'm not talking about specs as the non-X10 wins there, but actual day to day usage.
Any input greatly appreciated.
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About to buy one of these 2 similarly named phones and was wondering which is better. I'm not talking about specs as the non-X10 wins there, but actual day to day usage.
Any input greatly appreciated.
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xperia mini St15i is better than X10 mini.. St15i hold battery life much better than X10 mini...
solarboy said:
About to buy one of these 2 similarly named phones and was wondering which is better. I'm not talking about specs as the non-X10 wins there, but actual day to day usage.
Any input greatly appreciated.
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Mini. Because specs make the difference. Whatever X10 Mini can do, Mini can do it better. And has a better battery life, with a bigger and better screen.
Comparison of "Mini Pro" SK17a vs "X10 Mini Pro"
Removed my comments about problems I was having with SK17's fingertip swipe navigation. An upgrade to Android 4 ICS solved the problems.
UPDATE: I just rooted and upgraded my SK17a from GB to ICS. The fingertip swipe navigation is now smoother (even one-handed thumb swipes), and fingertip swipes now work in landscape, so I'm bumping my rating from 3 to 4-stars ;-) So the SK17a is truly a fine successor to the X10...cept for the layout and backlighting on the numbers/symbol keys which is a still problem in both... and of course the bloatware which requires rooting to remove. I still love my X10 and it will be a fine second phone.
I still have some gripes about the SK17a so feel free to read my amazon review which will be long 4-star review by Kyle Y (keywords Sony SK17a White)
Mini definately I have the mini and lots of my friends have the X10 mini, Mini is way better in every way the screen looks so much clearer
PERFECT FEEDBACK! Thanks peeps mini it is,wifey will be pleased!
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Retraction - ICS fixes nav problems in SK17a
I just rooted and upgraded my SK17a from GB to ICS. The fingertip swipe navigation is now smoother (even one-handed thumbswipes), and fingertip swipes now work in landscape, so I'm bumping it to 4-stars ;-) So the SK17a is truly a fine successor to the X10...cept for the backlighting on the numbers/symbol keys which is a still problem in both. I still love my X10 and it will be a fine second phone.
I bought a Mini, a larger display, faster processor, more support - ICS. I own a Mini and I am happy.
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wrong phone lol
read too fast. mistook x10 mini to X10
sorry
iONEx said:
larger display? faster CPU?
take a look here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2964&idPhone2=3947
the specs are almost the same.
only the X10 has a bigger screen, 8MPX camera.
700MB more internal storage, 130MB less RAM, and it has adreno 200 instead of 205 like mini.
I'm not so sure that the mini is sooo better than X10... The X10 is a pretty descent phone. still holding up with time.
I have a couple of friends with X10, and they love their phone....
it just hasn't got ICS but in the future, who knows
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We're talking about X10 Mini.....................
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I have been using the mini pro now for almost a year. Last week while browsing the net for a cheap contract deal for a relative, I found a very cheap deal for a refurbished x10 which I got. Been using it now With the official SE 2.1 firmware for a few days. All in all, I am quite happy with it. The fact it will get gingerbread soon makes it even better. My experience with it shows me that you can't really have a good smartphone experience (let alone a good android experience) with the minis. The screen size really lets down what could have been a true if somewhat humble champion. I believe a 3 inch screen should be the very minimum for a smartphone that's meant for web browsing, emailing, and running apps. SE made a mistake (one of many in what was a very poorly judged 2010) which they have rectified with the new mini range.
Don't get me wrong, I am sure there are a lot of folks out there who get a lot of joy from their minis. For me personally having used the x10 for a while, the minis just don't give a very good smartphone experience.
Share your thoughts.
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I love my mini pro but I will love to try out different android phones like the xperia play since I'm a playstation fan all the way!!!
I might stay with my mini pro and I'm going to save money to buy a tablet or a new phone if my mini pro dies hehe (I hope it doesn't happen soon)
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Zodiac, i couldn't agree more! I love my mini (not even pro), but the screen is really to small for sucha good and complete device.
My partner has an SE Arc and from the first time i touched it i was jealous, not only for the specs and speed (my lill mini on miniCM6 keeps up in performance amazingly well....lol...), but the screen looks and works so freaking awesome. I decided instantly i 'need' one too!
On the other hand, since the mini was my first android device, parting from it will be a bit hard, how weird can one be huhh......
Well, you are right about the tiny screen. It is like looking at the internet through a keyhole. My experience is that internet browsing becomes enjoyable at 4 inches and above. My previous phone was an HTC HD2 which in the last few months I used with a Gingerbread nand rom and fell in love with android. And the HD2 was quite a good piece of hardware. But...I dont regret changing for the mini pro. I find that the mini pro's camera is better and also sound quality is better than that of the HD2. I also love the hardware keyboard which I use heavily. Currently Im using the mini pro with the stock SE rom - rooted and with xrec and removed bloatware. Cant really make up my mind about going to a custom rom because I am afraid of loosing camera quality.
All in all the mini pro is a lovely thing. The only thing that really gets on my nerves is the poor battery life.
Soon will be released Xperia Mini with 3" display, and other upgrades. I had my last phone (W810) for 4.5 years. Now the X10 mini will last probably a few more months.
The minis would have been perfect (if such a thing exists) with a 3 inch screen and at the very least HVGA and not QVGA which limits the apps you can download. I mean how stupid is that.
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I find that the mini pro's camera is better and also sound quality is better than that of the HD2.
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Believe it or not, the mini sound quality is way better then from SE Arc too (when not connected to headphone i mean), but i can't beat the Arc camera though
hi its my first android handset from 2003 , i'm sony ericsson pocessor, in two months back i had vivaz U5i but i loved my X10 mini now with its functionality it's a good phone for me only SE wont upgrade to gingerbread (android 2.3) and i love stock menu's and functionality.
the dialer , the home screen , its icons , i search for anyone has ported any thing from stock rom to MINI CM6 or 7
I had been a Windows Mobile user for the last 5 or so years, but I wanted a change to the "future", to an Android phone, but I didn't want to go all out on a phone I could end up not liking, so last October I went with an x10 Mini Pro, not only is it a cheap device, but it packs quite a punch for it's size, there's pretty much almost nothing I couldn't do on this little one besides flash sites (skyfire with vid plugin solved it), and play a couple of games, (PvZ for eg, all others seem fine, even fps games).
All I can say is that this device gave me such a good impression and introduction to the Android platform that I'm waiting for a SGSII to arrive this week, as this shortie did it's job, for 139€, no contract, I can't really complain of any of the features, and while the screen might be small, well, it's a Mini version so I expected the short screen.
Hello guys!
I currently have the LG optimus one, and am looking to buy a new phone. Im torn apart between the SE xperia mini pro and the Moto Defy
Pls help me decide
On one hand theres the big screen on the defy and on the other theres the hw keypad and the 1Ghz procy :|
Any personal experiences?
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Hello guys!
I currently have the LG optimus one, and am looking to buy a new phone. Im torn apart between the SE xperia mini pro and the Moto Defy
Pls help me decide
On one hand theres the big screen on the defy and on the other theres the hw keypad and the 1Ghz procy :|
Any personal experiences?
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Its basically whether you need the bigger screen or the keyboard. Processor should be similar, both can be overclocked to your liking. If you want both, how about something like the Desire Z?
the mini pro has a known issue of noise when recording video although Sony has said they will fix it in the next update (which should be any day now).
Me i like the small unique form factor rather than the ordinary 4" slab.
barrist said:
Its basically whether you need the bigger screen or the keyboard. Processor should be similar, both can be overclocked to your liking. If you want both, how about something like the Desire Z?
the mini pro has a known issue of noise when recording video although Sony has said they will fix it in the next update (which should be any day now).
Me i like the small unique form factor rather than the ordinary 4" slab.
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Yeah, I think one should only go for any of the mini's if one likes the small form factor. It's why I went for one too.
Otherwise, I think I'd have gone for a Ray or simply stuck with my Optimus One (which is a very good phone by itself, even if it's stuck with a measly 600MHz ARMv6 processor.
The Desire Z, jeez. I had one Terribly slow, unfortunately.
I'd say yes, the mini pro is definitely a recommendation.
You can play all games with the keyboard, which is pretty damn awesome
The phone itself is really smooth and never lags or hangs.
The Mini Pro has a big disadvantage: the reception. It really sucks compared to my old N82 so make sure the area where you're going to use the phone has a very good coverage otherwise the battery life will be really short.
Check my previous posts for more info
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The Mini Pro has a big disadvantage: the reception. It really sucks compared to my old N82 so make sure the area where you're going to use the phone has a very good coverage otherwise the battery life will be really short.
Check my previous posts for more info
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I haven't really had any reception problems yet, but the phone consistently shows far less (!) bars than my previous phones. It may be more a case of what the OS reports, than terrible reception per se.
However, I've noticed that the phone switches back to Edge far more often than my Optimus One (which sometimes did nothing at all until I clicked a link for a second time; probably because it kept trying to find the 3G network). If this keeps the user experience more consistent/fluid, I don't have a problem with it.
Same, no problems with the reception here.
I'm living in an average sized town in germany, nowhere near the inner city and always getting atleast 3/4 bars. It really depends on where you live and how good your carrier is
Mentioning Moto Defy tells me you are confused even about form factor. First decide, what you are, Type-er or Touch-er. If Type-er go with Mini Pro and if Touch-er then you have much better choices to go with than Defy.
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Mentioning Moto Defy tells me you are confused even about form factor. First decide, what you are, Type-er or Touch-er. If Type-er go with Mini Pro and if Touch-er then you have much better choices to go with than Defy.
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maybe those are the options between which he can choose if he wants a free phone on his contract? EDIT: anyway, since he's posting here, he clearly wants to be persuaded that the mini pro is the phone for him
i dont even think the screen is too small :O it's a perfectly sized smartphone for your pants pocket
Yeahh, i bought Mini 1 month ago, this's great even though it is considered to be not really manly ) However, i love the way to onw something that's "small" but "powerful"
So, highly recommend
Yes this phone is deceptive because it may seem like an entry level phone, it has the same internal specs as the other more "high end" phones in SE's lineup. That coupled with the fact that the processor only has to power a 3" screen as opposed to a 4" screen means it should in theory be better performing.
my only small thing is the battery (maybe its an android thing in general) is fairly weak imo. I'm waiting for a third party 1600mah battery to arrive and hopefully it'll improve.
it's really powerful yeah. all the emulators run so damn smooth.
the battery is indeed an issue. i bought myself another stock battery and a charging station. I never need to charge the phone itself
Hey. My previous phone was Optimus One, I sold it and bought the xperia mini pro and never regrets it.
Remember the optimus one issues? Multitouch problem, lag when hold screen, worse battery life than xperia mini pro, 3mp camera w no flash, video recording is pretty low and not HD, lag when playing bigger HD games.
Well none of the above happens on the xperia mini pro. So just sell your optimus one and buy the mini pro just like me. Youll like it
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dryhte said:
I haven't really had any reception problems yet, but the phone consistently shows far less (!) bars than my previous phones. It may be more a case of what the OS reports, than terrible reception per se.
However, I've noticed that the phone switches back to Edge far more often than my Optimus One (which sometimes did nothing at all until I clicked a link for a second time; probably because it kept trying to find the 3G network). If this keeps the user experience more consistent/fluid, I don't have a problem with it.
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Well the dfference I have noticed is quite big: while the N82 shows full strength signal the Mini Pro shows no bar and it even drops the signal if hold it with my hand instead of 2 fingers. Both phones have a SIM from 3 wich is an operator that only uses 3G networks.
It is definitely an operator's coverage related issue because it doesn't happen in my hometown but still it's a sign that the phone's reception is not as good as the N82.
In other forums I have read about people complaining about this issue but only for the Mini Pro, the Mini from what I've read has a better reception.
Izzy Stinson said:
Hey. My previous phone was Optimus One, I sold it and bought the xperia mini pro and never regrets it.
Remember the optimus one issues? Multitouch problem, lag when hold screen, worse battery life than xperia mini pro, 3mp camera w no flash, video recording is pretty low and not HD, lag when playing bigger HD games.
Well none of the above happens on the xperia mini pro. So just sell your optimus one and buy the mini pro just like me. Youll like it
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Yes , The same to me , Just sold O1 is suck when gaming , but Some Dev has fix it already in CFW ...! Now Mini pro is fast far than O1 lolx
Is there going to be a new Xperia mini/pro released this year 2012?
Xperia U is big and Tapioca rumoured to be lower spec. Are Sony not doing a mini this year?
They released the mini's around 8 months. What exactly doesnt suit your needs in the already released mini's? Too low specs? As Sony have stated, they wont be releasing quad core phones this year, due to the fact that apps cant even handle dual core phones properly. So if you want specs, take something bigger, if you want size, get a mini.
The mini specs are just fine. It of course has the heat problem and I just thought there would be some signs of a successor, x10 mini, xperia mini, etc.
The white mini is £99 at carphone warehouse but they have said they are not getting anymore stock of this model in black. Nothing is said of the successor yet, only giant phones from Sony.
The 2010 and 2011 mini/pro smart phones weren't a failure so it's quite probable that Sony will continue the series in 2012. But the 2011 mini/pro phones are still very good so Sony hasn't got a reason to release new phones this early + the 2011 mini/pro phones are getting ICS from Sony. If there will be 2012 mini/pro phones, expect them to the end of 2012.
Xperia Mini came out in August, it is less than a year.
What is wrong with current one, why new?
I think my frends are asking this question bcoz like me they are willing to have a mini with a dual core processor and a product from SONY.i m hugely satisfied with my mini but i also wants a mini from SONY.moreover a HD screen. ;-)
ffaaiissaall said:
I think my frends are asking this question bcoz like me they are willing to have a mini with a dual core processor and a product from SONY.i m hugely satisfied with my mini but i also wants a mini from SONY.moreover a HD screen. ;-)
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I think a HD screen would be pushing it on a 3 inch screen, that and the fact its unnecessary and impossible
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The ST15i now is fast and has a good screen,why replace it
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3.0 inch HD screen? Quite impossible yet.
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Quite impossible yet
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Nope. Already 1 company announced that they managed to insert IPAD 3 resolution (thats like 2***x1***, don't remember exactly) in 1 inch. But ofc, the price is giant.
And completely useless.
I'm also looking forward for the next xperia mini pro. The actual phone works great in terms of speed. The only thing that i wash was better is the screen, which isn't bad but it would be nice to have a 854x480 resolution. And the dual core doesn't hurt either.
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Voth larger screen and dual core would be bad for our devices. Two words: Battwry Life.
Hiw long do you expect our 1200mA batteries to last with those specs? So as I said before... Completely useless. If you want a powerfull phine get sometging other than a mini
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yeah... dumraden is right... They can't probably fit a bigger battery in such a small form factor... So, dual core would be a disaster.. ;-)
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Voth larger screen and dual core would be bad for our devices. Two words: Battwry Life.
Hiw long do you expect our 1200mA batteries to last with those specs? So as I said before... Completely useless. If you want a powerfull phine get sometging other than a mini
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Larger screen and it won't be Xperia Mini anymore but similar to any other Xperia phone.
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Somthing like the same 1ghz dual core cpu that is in the Xperia U with the hvga res and 3" screen of the mini. Also make the mini a bit thinner but keep the other dimensions like height and width the same.
Just purchased the Xperia mini in black for £99 from Carphone Warehouse
I think there will be successor of the mini,just wait and see. It will come. :-D
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There is no reason to think that for having a dual core cpu the battery is going to be awful. It all depends on the battery amount but also in the optimization of the system. There are plenty of roms that have better battery life than stock or other roms and the specs of the phone are still the same. Also the screen can be a little bigger, i'm not saying they should put a 4" screen in the model but a 3,3" is possible without having the size of the phone change much. In the current model there is space that could be use for a bigger display. The part where is the xperia logo could be use for that and the buttons should be in a row and not have the home key lower than the others. The next model is going to be a little bigger but the change in size is not going to be something that would take away the small aspect of the mini series.
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The mini is only mini because it has a smaller screen than the competition but makes up for it somwhat in a chunkier design. If they continue to make the "mini" bigger then it will be the same as the competition and not be so unique.
3.2" or 3.3" is too big to be mini and then it becomes the same as any other phone, unless they use an edge to edge screen with no borders or somthing.
I think Sony won't make the screen bigger cause then it won't be a MINI. I think they are going to bump up the processor to 1.2Ghz single core, much better battery and a better resoultion screen. Plus they might even scrap the "Mini" name and go for Xperia M and Xperia MP to keep with the same NXT brand.
I have had the G2 for well over a year now and recently felt the need for a change. In my opinion the G2 is one of the best physical keyboard phones of its day; the next phone had some big shoes to fill.
Physical keyboard either slide or candy bar style
GSM based
Hspa speeds
Android 2.3 or later
Decent battery life
Not too big
Faster processor than the G2
After searching diligently for the right fit it came down to these two phones:
Motorola pro plus - candy bar style
Larger body
Bigger battery
1Ghz processor
HSPA
Xperia mini pro - slider style
Compact design
Front facing camera
1Ghz processor
HSPA
The reviews for the Motorola Pro plus on youtube were pretty good but not overwhelmingly so.
The Xperia mini pro had a bit more reviews and seemed to hold up well for different types of users.
So i ordered the Xperia mini pro and can say that i am not disappointed. The size and speed of this phone are what set it apart in the physical qwerty domain. The user interface that Sony has layed on top on Android is quite impressive and very intuitive. If your thinking of getting a new qwerty do not hesitate with this one.
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Hei Hermetics
Glad you buy a Mini Pro , but as i can see in your Signature, you owne a NEW mini pro from 2011 (sk17a). This is the Forum for the first mini pro from 2010. (u20). Search for the xperia mini,mini pro,Active,Ray Forum.
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Even if its the wrong forum, its a good review (short one).
Actually i'm thinking of getting the Xperia Ray when the price goes down a bit
@Hermetics: Have fun with your new phone!
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Even if its the wrong forum, its a good review (short one).
Actually i'm thinking of getting the Xperia Ray when the price goes down a bit
@Hermetics: Have fun with your new phone!
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Totally agree! And by the way i will get my new mini pro in september! I juste ment it in case he try to flash a rom from this forum.
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I would totally get an Xperia Active if possible!!
hello guys, easy question
Are you happy with this phone?
I'm hesitating among several qwerty phones but the lack of development is doing me reluctant to buy any of them.
These are my options.
Anything important problems or issues not solvable i should know about this little device?
I love my mini pro.
I used to have a x10 mini pro, then when SE released the SK17i mini pro I brought one in black, but I dropped that and broke it and replaced it with a white one. I can afford to go buy any phone but I just like my mini pro so much I'm sticking with it.
Only negative point really for some people might be the screen size being a little small for playing games and watching movies.
the keyboard is perfect, I can easily type without looking at the screen. the phone is great for daily usage and some casual games. it can get a bit laggy while surfing on the internet though.
It's a great little phone. You can't really get better for the price.
The xperia pro would be a fine option as well, but it's just plain ugly, and I really think the Mini Pro handles tasks better because of it's lower resolution, which also means something for RAM usage.
BTW you've listed the Relay 4G as one of your options. I'd say go get it. As some member said, it's now officially supported by CM, which is way better than Samsung's Touchwiz.