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im having a dilemma on what really should i get.. i've always wanted the mini pro because of its physical keyboard and it works best for me because i use sms most of the time, but the problem is the noise problem and the cases of unresponsive screen and capacitive buttons which SE has not resolved or did have a response yet. On the other hand after checking the ray forums, it seems that the ray among all the 2011 phones of SE has the least defect or almost perfect due to very few problems encountered..
please help me.. which i should i go for?
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brapicoco said:
im having a dilemma on what really should i get.. i've always wanted the mini pro because of its physical keyboard and it works best for me because i use sms most of the time, but the problem is the noise problem and the cases of unresponsive screen and capacitive buttons which SE has not resolved or did have a response yet. On the other hand after checking the ray forums, it seems that the ray among all the 2011 phones of SE has the least defect or almost perfect due to very few problems encountered..
please help me.. which i should i go for?
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Go for xperia mini pro. There is only noise problem. The capacitive buttons have no problem and the screen is super responsive. It'll play and win games even before you touch it.
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Go for xperia mini pro. There is only noise problem. The capacitive buttons have no problem and the screen is super responsive. It'll play and win games even before you touch it.
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Mini nonpro
I was in your same situation, and I just bought the Ray... it's damnly sexy XD and the screen is fantastic. I had an x10 mini pro, the lack of the physical keyboard isn't that big problem, I suggest you to buy the Ray, I can't stop watching it, wiht the screen off is a cool item to see on your board, thin, fast, and cool ^^
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Xperia Ray. Had it for 2 weeks. Haven't had any problems with it.
The screen is also super responsive, contrary to what some have been saying.
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Xperia Ray. Had it for 2 weeks. Haven't had any problems with it.
The screen is also super responsive, contrary to what some have been saying.
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The lack of the screen responsiveness (for someone) is caused by the damnly strong screen protector (and almost invisible) already sticked on the screen, if u remove it it becomes really responsive, but it's wery well applied, so isn't that bad. Every protector I sticked myself on my phones wasn't the best to look (and in less than a week I had to remove it cause the angles didn't stay down )
sry 4 my bad english XD
@Ray users
How is Ray's battery life?? Is it 1200mAh like the mini/mini pro or more??
Because I think that battery life is really important.
I believe that the only disadvantage of the mini/mini pro is the battery life. :/
lately i've been considering the ray but still my heart says go for the mini pro, but will SE fix the noise problem? how about the battery life? which has the greater one? because my x8's battery life really sucks and there are reported issues of the mini pro having a poor battery life. Battery life is very important to me
the battery of the ray is 1500mAh, and its life is really good, not epic but still better than the most of android devices, it's a huge battery for a so thin device, so, it gets my approvation ^^ (the galaxyS2 has got a 1600mAh battery...)
First i got the Mini Pro because i thought writing with the hardware keyboard would be easier. To be honest, at least for me, that wasn't the case. It's 1/3 heavier than the Ray and the shape gives my fingers pain while holding it in portrait mode. As noted, the battery life is also shorter.
I ended up buying the Ray and ever since i didn't even look at the Mini until i found a use for it again; testing the unlock bootloader option (using test point method) which leaves DRM intact. Now the Mini lays in some corner again until SE brings the 2.3.4 update to germany.
Hope that helped.
Ray, its got high res display thinner bigger screen and better camera
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The Ray is WAY better phone than the mini
My only concern is the lack of auto-flash (light on or oight off only) but I guess the Arc's camera software could be transplanted to the Ray (crosses fingers)
guy i have the same problem. i cant decide wether to buy the xperia ray or the xperia mini(not pro). yet i own a k750i which has a perfect size for me. i dont know wether the mini is too small or the ray is too big. and the ray is very small. does it have a good handling? is the batterylife of the ray better than that of the mini? and will it give an update for the ray so that it has a flashlight for the camera? which phone woul you prefer.
thx for ur advices.
Ray = Better phone
Mini Pro = Small & Keyboard
Depends what you need. I hate bigass phones so Mini Pro is my choice
xperia mini pro
As my tagline,,, + for xperia mini pro - for xperia ray,,, i choose the xperia mini pro just because the fitur on it's phone is same as ray,,, it has 1ghz processor,,, bravia engine,,, 5 mp camera,,, it has secondary too hey it's cool man,,, different is the display,,, xperia mini pro only has 3" display but the phone has qwerty keyboard,,, so not too big problem i think,,,
sorry for my bad english
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As my tagline,,, + for xperia mini pro - for xperia ray,,, i choose the xperia mini pro just because the fitur on it's phone is same as ray,,, it has 1ghz processor,,, bravia engine,,, 5 mp camera,,, it has secondary too hey it's cool man,,, different is the display,,, xperia mini pro only has 3" display but the phone has qwerty keyboard,,, so not too big problem i think,,,
sorry for my bad english
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The Xperia Rays camera is 8MP, not 5 and the exmor sensor takes amazing videos at night even in VGA mode!!!
I got the Xperia Ray on the firt release date, and I throughly love this phone.
Wish there were custom ROMS for it out here though, would love to see what the devs can do with this little BEAST.
Only regret I have is that I should have chosen White rather than Pink.... I thought it looked more red at the time lol. Love the Phone non-the-less!!!
I had an X10 mini pro before the Ray, the thinness and the lightness of the ray makes it really confortable, where the mini pro wasn't much cause of its soap-size and weight
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I had an X10 mini pro before the Ray, the thinness and the lightness of the ray makes it really confortable, where the mini pro wasn't much cause of its soap-size and weight
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Lordsnow have you tested vignette or any third-party app to enable auto-flash ??
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Lordsnow have you tested vignette or any third-party app to enable auto-flash ??
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yup, but still isn't a real flash, the light is low. I'm looking 4 an apk with "superbrightness" or something similar^^ just to see if our led can do more light
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yup, but still isn't a real flash, the light is low. I'm looking 4 an apk with "superbrightness" or something similar^^ just to see if our led can do more light
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Thanks for your reply, please keep me posted !!
I have a crush on this phone, even w/o a keyboard I find it sleek and head-turner
A chick magnet
I have the x10 and a desire z, I ended carrying the D Z only due to the autoflash and QWERTY, but this Ray looks sleek
I considering to buy either an Xperia Mini Pro or the new Live Walkman (basicly the same phone but without QWERTY keyboard but with a 3.2" screen) for my girlfriend who has an iPhone4 right now. The reason is that she dislikes the weak signal reception of the iphone4 and some other minor things.
My questions for the Mini Pro and Live Walkman users are:
1. how is the signal reception?
2. is the screen too small if you go from an 3.5" iphone4?
3. how is the battery life compared to iphone4?
4. is the Mini Pro too thick?
Thanks
A comparison between xperia mini pro and iphone4 ?! :/
led zeppelin vs ricky martin ?
Signal is "normal", screen is smaller than iphone 4...seriously just send your gf to the nearest shop so that she can test it in her hands coz it's a real big change from iphone 4
Thank you but I will consider another phone. I just read a poll were 22 out of 31 people were not happy with the signal reception of the Mini Pro.
swedish source here
alexuz said:
Thank you but I will consider another phone. I just read a poll were 22 out of 31 people were not happy with the signal reception of the Mini Pro.
swedish source here
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Yeah, I don't find it great either. But as a phone it's great (bang for buck wise).
My previous phone was LGP500 Optimus One, another example of a great bang-for-buck phone; I feel reception was better there. Plus, it's dirt cheap (but it's ARMv6 so no flash for you)
Anyone come from a Blackberry or were previously a blackberry user, comment on the keyboard of the Mini Pro?
I have test the xperia mini pro sk17 keyboard and a BOLD 3 keyboard, both are so ****in great, but the xperia mini pro keyboard is better, bigger, and is in a smaller phone
sorry for my english!
By Bold 3 do you mean the 9780 or the 9900?
are the mini pro keys clicky or more mushy?
how is the build quality, does it feel like a 'cheap phone'?
They give great tactile feedback. Clicky.
And I think build quality is really good, except that in closed form, the first 2 mm of opening could feel a little less soft.
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Here's my score after 1 Week of using a Xperia mini pro (sk17i).
I was using a LG o2x (optimus speed) before.
Hardware 8/10.
Pretty good for such a small phone, everyhing opens in a fraction of a second
It's strong enough to play psx emulators and N64 games, which is awesome.
Call Quality 7/10.
Pretty good here in germany. I've seen loads of people complaining about it, but it's fine here.
Physical Keyboard 9/10.
Best keyboard ive ever had on a mobile phone. Great pressure point, nicely illuminated. AND YOU CAN ****ING USE IT TO PLAY GAMES
The only downside: the first row of buttons is too close to the display-slider.
People with stubby fingers shouldnt get this phone, lol.
Screen 7/10.
Could use a few more options like turning off the ambient lightning, but it's great for such a small phone.
Battery 6/10
Lasts roughly 2 days with light usage. 1 day of heavy usage is enough to drain the battery completely. I believe i need to root it and uninstall all the crapware draining my battery life. It's okay though, i'm used to heavy battery drain, my optimus did the same.
Price 10/10.
Only 200€ for 1,2 ghz, 512mb ram and a 8Gb micro SD what more could i ask for?
The hardware is well implemented and the screen never lags for me.
Sadly it isnt made of gorilla glas, but i use screen protectors anway.
Overall 7,5/10
This phone is of course not made for multimedia lovers. It's a great device for people who text alot, play some games, do some calls and carry it around in their pants pockets. For my needs only, i'd give it a 9/10. 10/10 if SE
actually fixes some stuff like the ambient light sensor ****.
Plus, it's an eye catcher Everytime i slide out the keyboard people are like "ooooh show me your phone :O"
Hey,i have Live with Walkman and i think you should get it...
it's a good phone and has a reallyyyy great sound!
if she likes mousic she'll love it...all round it can do pretty much anything,play games with good quality/performance,it's very fast,5mp shooter with 720p video and led flash it's a great all-round phone,very complete...especially for the price!
Also it has good reception(not a problem to me with this phone)
the screen is just fine(i had a Galaxy S with a 4"inch screen before and i think it's display is quite good actually)
i use it all the time and the night only needs recharge(If you root it and use setcpu it can last even longer!!)
and finally it's quite slim and very very stylish...
Hope i've helped!!
I have had the G2 for well over a year now and recently felt the need for a change. In my opinion the G2 is one of the best physical keyboard phones of its day; the next phone had some big shoes to fill.
Physical keyboard either slide or candy bar style
GSM based
Hspa speeds
Android 2.3 or later
Decent battery life
Not too big
Faster processor than the G2
After searching diligently for the right fit it came down to these two phones:
Motorola pro plus - candy bar style
Larger body
Bigger battery
1Ghz processor
HSPA
Xperia mini pro - slider style
Compact design
Front facing camera
1Ghz processor
HSPA
The reviews for the Motorola Pro plus on youtube were pretty good but not overwhelmingly so.
The Xperia mini pro had a bit more reviews and seemed to hold up well for different types of users.
So i ordered the Xperia mini pro and can say that i am not disappointed. The size and speed of this phone are what set it apart in the physical qwerty domain. The user interface that Sony has layed on top on Android is quite impressive and very intuitive. If your thinking of getting a new qwerty do not hesitate with this one.
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Hi guys,
I'm posting in this section because this is for all you that are thinking to replace their X10 with the XP. If you mods think this should go to General, please move.
So long story short, should you move to XP? Answer is Yes. (not YES, but Yes)
It also depends on how much money you will need to spend. Where i live i could get 100€ for my old X10 and for the Xperia P i needed to cash out 250€. So i believe this to be a good trade because for 150€ and no contract i got a completely new, faster and in every way superior phone (almost every way).
I believe the Xperia P to be the direct successor to the X10, just because how similar they are with the screen size and everything, if i would be upgrading the X10 to a new generation, i would do something like the Xpeira P.
The next part i divided into sections so it will be easier to follow.
SCREEN
No doubt about it, the Xperia P has a better, more vibrant screen with higher pixel density. That said, you won't have any problems with the X10 screen either so it's a matter of taste. Personally i actually prefer the X10 screen because of 2 things:
- the XP screen is too yellow, it's hard to get used to, but i try...X10 has much colder colors which i quite like since i find it more realistic
- the higher resolution on the XP actually makes things smaller on the screen so i like the x10 resolution better since everything looks a bit bigger and in my opinion easier to use
Everything else however is on the XP side, for example the brightness which is superb. In any case you will not be disappointed with the XP screen.
I have to say also that Multitouch works much better on XP.
SIZE OF THE DEVICE ITSELF
Size is something that is really important for me since smaller size allows you to use the device better with one hand. With the Xperia P you kinda win and loose here against the X10. It's thinner and has less width, but it's longer. And because it's so long it's harder to use with one hand since the screen is further up above than on the X10. This makes it harder to get to the top of the screen with your thumb. BUT...overall the XP is very one hand friendly and still perfectly usable.
LOUDSPEAKER AND SOUND
Loudspeaker is very good, i must say it's better than on the X10 and louder. Sound is very good, but i always found the sound on sony devices (i'm talking about headphones) to be awesome, XP is no exception but i wouldn't give it any edge against the X10 in this respect.
MEMORY AND RAM
I believe 11.5GB user available is good enough for the XP. In the X10 i had 8GB SDcard and it was almost full most of the time so 11.5GB give me just the perfect amount. That said, if you want to take full hd video then i would advise you to transfer it to your PC and delete on your phone as soon as you're done taking it. Of course X10 could win here theoretically with it's microSD expansion, BUT...you can attach an USB drive to your Xperia P when needed, so it kinda overcomes the issue in that way.
I've never had any issues with internal memory on the X10 (1GB) and on XP you have 2GB so that's just fine. No real advantage for the XP here (in my case).
1GB Ram in XP is very good and all you could want in a phone. On the other hand the X10 is not so good in that respect with only 384mb, so a definite plus to the XP.
CONECTIVITY
Almost the same, little bit faster standards on XP but in normal use very hard to notice if you don't have a very fast network provider. Wireless signal is almost the same, maybe a tiny bit better on XP. X10 does not have NFC but in all fairness it's not THAT useful and i don't use it yet, maybe in the future...
CAMERA
Now this is an important section for me. I almost got the Xperia Sola but i went for the P because of the camera and i'm not sorry i did it.
The first thing you notice is how much faster it is than on the X10. So that comes in handy if you don't want to your friends to wait for a whole minute to take a picture or if you're on the move and you need to snap something fast.
X10 set a pretty high standard for me, i got used to it so much that i could take some really and i mean really nice photos. But that is when the lighting conditions are almost perfect. And i can say that the X10 i a match to the XP in those conditions. The quality would deteriate grately with sun loss.
Xperia P handles lower light better, not to mention it's very good flash so taking a photo in very bad lighting can turn out pretty good if you're not taking a picture more than 3m away.
The video recording is better on the P, quality is not SOO much better but the video itself is not jerky at all so it makes a big difference.
FRONT CAMERA
X10 has none. But actually, not such a big minus for the X10. The front facing camera on the XP is so bad that i don't even want to use it. If it's reeeeally necessary then i suppose it would do, but i don't like it at all.
SOFTWARE
Of course our beloved X10 is stuck on 2.3 which is not bad but...4.0 for the XP and the upcoming 4.1 means a lot. Unfortunately for the X10. But there is hope with all the great devs.
Actually, that's one thing i'm missing on the XP, it does not have such a good dev support as the X10. Not yet at least. So be prepared for that.
PERFORMANCE
XP wins here no question about it. Can X10 handle most of everyday tasks? Yes. But XP handles them lag free. Makes the phone a little bit easier to use. But in the UI itself, it's not such a huge difference. So if XP is 10 out of 10, i would give the X10 7.5 out of 10.
If you're gaming however, that's a different story and XP will eat X10 for breakfast here.
BATTERY
X10 is way better here. Ok not way better but just the fact that you can take out the battery means a world of difference. Change it for a better one, have a replacement...It's just better for me. Also it lasts a couple of hours longer.
From the XP you can expect it to last you one day of normal usage with ease. But any heavier usage will make the battery run for it's life quite fast. That said, it does charge quickly so if you have your charger close, it should not cause any problems.
CONCLUSION
Yes, i would buy it again. Am i impressed? Yes, but not as much to say YES. Overall the XP is a better phone in almost every way. It is a reasonable upgrade and i would recommend it. Keep in mind that all you have read are just my personal opinions (with a couple of facts).
ALTERNATIVE
As an alternative, i would get the Samsung Galaxy S2. It is similary priced and it's GPU and CPU are faster. Bigger screen is both positive and negative if you want to use it with one hand. Overall it is a tough decision between them so it will be individual. From HTC i would include the HTC Sensation. Though none of them has the style of the Xperia line. Again, personal preference.
Post your comments/questions. I'm here if you want to know more. Hope this helped someone.
Have a good one! :good:
How would you rate the XP to the htc One S? that's also the mid-range, though it's flagship material lol
If money is no issue then definitely the One S is a better device, with faster performance and a great screen. It depends for what you use your phone though. If it's just for normal use (with light gaming), then i don't think it's worth the money over the XP, performance wise.
Everything else seems pretty much the same as the XP but i've never user the One S so it's just my opinion.
But you can't really compare it, i don't think this is the same segment of phones. (although some might also call it mid range, for me dual core Krait should be considered lower high end)
cool review, i was going to do one comparing the X10 with the Xperia T, but the differences are kinda extreme lol
hehe thanks, yeah the T is another dimension
For users that will get the XP, i just got this case for the phone and it looks really good, very nice feel to it also. Just search for Xperia P TPU case on ebay and find the cheapest one for you.
But somehow I feel that the XpS is wayy too overpriced..probably because of its outdated chipset..
I may go for Samsung GS3 Xperia S or htc One X. Not too sure or maybe a palm pre? Lol but I think SGS3
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brenty108 said:
I may go for Samsung GS3 Xperia S or htc One X. Not too sure or maybe a palm pre? Lol but I think SGS3
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You're better off with the one X. Its tops the S3 in benchmarks, meaning smoother performance. It's cheaper than the s3 as well...not to.mention its looks a damn sight better than the s3(which belongs in the trash IMO)
I would neither buy a xperia p nor a htc one x: to the first: i hate this transparent part which is simply ugly and a waste of place. To htc: I didnt like Htc at all till the One series came but i would take the one s or maybe the butterfly, but this is having such a big screen... not for everyone.
I will *maybe* buy a galaxy note (better for working) or the xperia V for the flagship. Maybe a nexus, but only if its gettin micro sd slot and (easily) removable battery. I also hope that the xperia neo L comes to europe, i pretty love the design. But i wont buy a new phone until my x10 dies. It is my first android phone and i love it.
A last question to the xperia p: on my x10 i hate it when i want to use it with wet fingers or when it has been in the cold and a litlle.bit water on the screen irritates it and i cant work at all with it. Is this better at the xperia p?
Greets
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I expect so...it doesn't have a waterproof screen like the xperia go (which is pretty awesome)... although the V and the acro S would be able to handle a little water easily
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A last question to the xperia p: on my x10 i hate it when i want to use it with wet fingers or when it has been in the cold and a litlle.bit water on the screen irritates it and i cant work at all with it. Is this better at the xperia p?
Greets
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not much better, i know what you're talking about but as with all non watterproof phones, it's creating problems
I am looking for a new sub 4.8” phone. I had S4 mini once and the size was perfect. I then upgraded to LG G2 and it is frequently inconvenient to carry. Actually, when I think about it, the weight might be more important then than size, so provided the phone is light, I could go a bit larger than 4.8"
The things I MUST have:
- good camera: At least on the S4 level
- very good battery life
- MicroSD card slot, OR at least 50GB internal storage
- Android M: from manufacturer, I need photo quality at the highest possible level so that rules out CM13
- root
Things it would be nice to have, but can live without:
- NFC
- dual sim
- waterproof
Things I do not care for at all:
- gaming: I have been using a smartphone since 10 years now, and not once I played a game on it
- production year: I don’t care if the phone is 2016 or 2013, as long as it fits the bill
Here are the phones I already considered and rejected:
- Xperia Z3c: perfect phone with clown camera
- Xperia Z5c: after 4 hours of research it looks like Sony again made the camera not very good (might reconsider if it turns out the camera is actually good)
- Galaxy S5 mini: I read it is a downgrade form S4 mini (but if it is only about GPU then I might reconsider)
- LG G2 mini: good camera, size and battery, but no M, LTE and 1 GB of ram is a serious tradeoff
- Redmi 3: bad camera
- Mi4c: so-so camera and battery life
- Mi5: size, so-so camera
- Meizu Pro 5: OMG this phone is PERFECT... Except for being a shovel. Such a pity they never completed Pro 5 Mini.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
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I'm really sorry but I wouldn't buy the Z5 Compact again. I really hate the battery life even though I'm rooted. I've been using the Z1 Compact for a year with an average life of 26-27h per charge and 5-6h SOT and I'm struggling to get 20h and 3-4h SOT with the Z5 now...
Not sent by me!
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I'm not smartphone camera expert, but z5c camera is rather bad. 24mpx mode has absolutely no sense, 8mpx pictures look good until you'll zoom in and realize how much NR was applied and how much detail is lost because of it. Slapping 24 megapixels on less than one square inch was bad idea, now it's noisy even on lowest ISO values, and obviously this "lossless zoom" is useless because of noise as well. Sometimes i even wonder if it's not worse than camera from my previous phone, BB Q10.
I'd love to see RAW straight from z5c sensor, maybe this NR was just over-the-top and it could be processed better, but there is no way to shoot RAW with this phone (at least for now).
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I am looking for a new sub 4.8” phone. I had S4 mini once and the size was perfect. I then upgraded to LG G2 and it is frequently inconvenient to carry. Actually, when I think about it, the weight might be more important then than size, so provided the phone is light, I could go a bit larger than 4.8"
The things I MUST have:
- good camera: At least on the S4 level
- very good battery life
- MicroSD card slot, OR at least 50GB internal storage
- Android M: from manufacturer, I need photo quality at the highest possible level so that rules out CM13
- root
Things it would be nice to have, but can live without:
- NFC
- dual sim
- waterproof
Things I do not care for at all:
- gaming: I have been using a smartphone since 10 years now, and not once I played a game on it
- production year: I don’t care if the phone is 2016 or 2013, as long as it fits the bill
Here are the phones I already considered and rejected:
- Xperia Z3c: perfect phone with clown camera
- Xperia Z5c: after 4 hours of research it looks like Sony again made the camera not very good (might reconsider if it turns out the camera is actually good)
- Galaxy S5 mini: I read it is a downgrade form S4 mini (but if it is only about GPU then I might reconsider)
- LG G2 mini: good camera, size and battery, but no M, LTE and 1 GB of ram is a serious tradeoff
- Redmi 3: bad camera
- Mi4c: so-so camera and battery life
- Mi5: size, so-so camera
- Meizu Pro 5: OMG this phone is PERFECT... Except for being a shovel. Such a pity they never completed Pro 5 Mini.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
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I suggest you get the z3 compact if you not too picky on the camera.....it offers you great battery life and its very cheap and plus tons of development....z5 compact is alright but the battery life isn't better than the z3 compact unfortunately and plus if you want root, you have to unlock the boot loader since there is not a root for locked boot loader yet......cant think of any other small phones that offers what you looking for unless you wanna get the iPhone 6s/iphone se.......just need to understand that every phone has its pros and cons. no phone can be perfect..
probably you've analyzed all the possibilities, tough you can still try on gsmarena site and use the "phone finder" menu to search the perfect phone for you
I'm not loving the phone but I'm not hating it either. For me it was a good buy.
1) Front dual speakers. They are good not perfect but much better than rear or side mounted speakers.
2) Water proof. This is a genius feature. I'm not planning to take a swim with the phone but if some beer get over it on a party... yeah I need no further explanations.
3) The Sony UI, at least on the Z5 lineup is more stock UI than e.g. the S7.
Sure the fingerprint scanner is trash (it never works on mine; hardware seems to work fine it's when your fingers are greesy or dirty) and the camera is certainly not perfect but good to use.
All in all it was a good buy for me.
impactor said:
I am looking for a new sub 4.8” phone. I had S4 e once and the size was perfect. I then upgraded to LG G2 and it is frequently inconvenient to carry. Actually, when I think about it, the weight might be more important then than size, so provided the phone is light, I could go a bit larger than 4.8"
The things I MUST have:
- good camera: At least on the S4 level
- very good battery life
- MicroSD card slot, OR at least 50GB internal storage
- Android M: from manufacturer, I need photo quality at the highest possible level so that rules out CM13
- root
Things it would be nice to have, but can live without:
- NFC
- dual sim
- waterproof
Things I do not care for at all:
- gaming: I have been using a smartphone since 10 years now, and not once I played a game on it
- production year: I don’t care if the phone is 2016 or 2013, as long as it fits the bill
Here are the phones I already considered and rejected:
- Xperia Z3c: perfect phone with clown camera
- Xperia Z5c: after 4 hours of research it looks like Sony again made the camera not very good (might reconsider if it turns out the camera is actually good)
- Galaxy S5 mini: I read it is a downgrade form S4 mini (but if it is only about GPU then I might reconsider)
- LG G2 mini: good camera, size and battery, but no M, LTE and 1 GB of ram is a serious tradeoff
- Redmi 3: bad camera
- Mi4c: so-so camera and battery life
- Mi5: size, so-so camera
- Meizu Pro 5: OMG this phone is PERFECT... Except for being a shovel. Such a pity they never completed Pro 5 Mini.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
Contry: EU
Use: phone, podcasts, camera!, navigation
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I came from the s4 mini a few months back. Hands down the best phone I've ever had. The z5c doesn't beat it on much, I miss my s4 mini and contemplate going for one of the 64 bit versions daily.
The z3c would be a better option for you if you can live with side port charging. The z5c camera is worse than s4 mini IMO, some people manage to take decent photos with it but I can't. I imagine the z3c isn't much different in that regard. Also the footprint of the z5c is quite a lot bigger than the s4 mini due to the sharp corners even though they're similar in overall size. It makes holding it one handed feel sketchy. Pocket print is pretty large as well since the back has sharp corners as well, and the weight feels nearly doubled. Also battery life is a huge problem for the z5c, ~6hours use max with no replaceable battery. I carried an extra battery with me for my s4 mini and never had to plug in as I had two more on the chargers at all times ready to go.
Being in eu you might have better selection of the s5 mini. America only got the g800a and hasn't been rooted yet, Mexico got the g800m and has root but is impossible to find or I would have chosen that over the z5c.
There's not a lot of other options out there currently. S7 mini is rumored but I'm willing to bet the screen will be too large. H10 mini is rumored as well but I can't say if will have sd slot. More and more the iPhone SE looks like a good option as well.
civicsr2cool said:
I came from the s4 mini a few months back. Hands down the best phone I've ever had. The z5c doesn't beat it on much, I miss my s4 mini and contemplate going for one of the 64 bit versions daily.
The z3c would be a better option for you if you can live with side port charging. The z5c camera is worse than s4 mini IMO, some people manage to take decent photos with it but I can't. I imagine the z3c isn't much different in that regard. Also the footprint of the z5c is quite a lot bigger than the s4 mini due to the sharp corners even though they're similar in overall size. It makes holding it one handed feel sketchy. Pocket print is pretty large as well since the back has sharp corners as well, and the weight feels nearly doubled. Also battery life is a huge problem for the z5c, ~6hours use max with no replaceable battery. I carried an extra battery with me for my s4 mini and never had to plug in as I had two more on the chargers at all times ready to go.
Being in eu you might have better selection of the s5 mini. America only got the g800a and hasn't been rooted yet, Mexico got the g800m and has root but is impossible to find or I would have chosen that over the z5c.
There's not a lot of other options out there currently. S7 mini is rumored but I'm willing to bet the screen will be too large. H10 mini is rumored as well but I can't say if will have sd slot. More and more the iPhone SE looks like a good option as well.
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Thanks for putting things in perspective.
How would you compare S4 mini and S5 mini? Battery life, usability, camera, etc. I read somewhere the latter could be even considered a downgrade. What S5 mini versions would you recommended root- and rom-wise?
impactor said:
Thanks for putting things in perspective.
How would you compare S4 mini and S5 mini? Battery life, usability, camera, etc. I read somewhere the latter could be even considered a downgrade. What S5 mini versions would you recommended root- and rom-wise?
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I never ended up getting an s5 mini. My s4 mini stuck around for nearly 3 years before I went to the z5c. I personally would think it'd be an upgrade s4 mini to s5 mini as you get 720p and fingerprint scanner. Anything else is a wash. There's a lot of YouTube comparisons of boot up times, quadrant scores, and GTA San Andreas comparisons between the two. If you can use dual sim I believe that's the one most Roms are built for on that platform.
I have to admit front facing speakers are a huge perk to the z5c, I forgot to mention that in the first post. The little bit I do use this for audio or YouTube it's a pretty amazing feature, just not enough to out weigh all the wrong with the phone lol.
I say grab an s5 mini, they're dirt cheap right now, if it doesn't work out go z3c as those are dropping price fast as well.
civicsr2cool said:
I never ended up getting an s5 mini. My s4 mini stuck around for nearly 3 years before I went to the z5c. I personally would think it'd be an upgrade s4 mini to s5 mini as you get 720p and fingerprint scanner. Anything else is a wash. There's a lot of YouTube comparisons of boot up times, quadrant scores, and GTA San Andreas comparisons between the two. If you can use dual sim I believe that's the one most Roms are built for on that platform.
I have to admit front facing speakers are a huge perk to the z5c, I forgot to mention that in the first post. The little bit I do use this for audio or YouTube it's a pretty amazing feature, just not enough to out weigh all the wrong with the phone lol.
I say grab an s5 mini, they're dirt cheap right now, if it doesn't work out go z3c as those are dropping price fast as well.
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From what I read, fingerprint reader on S5 mini is crap, and I had completely no problem with S4 mini resolution.
If anything else is a wash, then why take S5 mini over i9195i? I am reading it has fantastic battery life (some guy here got over 12 days of light use!) and quad core...
Decisions...
To go for S4 mini Plus, S5 mini, or wait for S7 mini... damn...