[Q] ARGH! Dead again. Or not? - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

Bought a Flyer on the Buy.com $199 deal a while back: :laugh:
First one arrived DOA and too deeply discharged to take a charge. I called Buy.com and they replaced it for free (good service). Strike one.
Second one arrived and worked great for months. I rooted it, S-OFF and upgraded to last Honeycomb OTA. It was awesome until one morning I came down to find it boot-looping for no reason. I tried everything to get it back up and in the end it was declared dead by SquareTrade. They took it and swapped the mainboard (different device serial number). Strike two.
The third one (with new mainboard) worked until last night (you know, just as ICS is coming available). I found it powered off and plugged into the wall-wart charger. I pressed the power button and it booted up all the way to Android, where it declared itself out of power (1%) and shut off promptly. I tried a different charger (wall-wart to USB power) and it blew out that charger (now dead) and got really warm on the power port. Tried a PC and still couldn't charge. Got the "magic smoke / hot electronics" smell from the area around the charge/USB port. I quickly unplugged the USB cable (quite warm) and walked away disgusted. Strike three.
So. just now, I managed to get it booted again into recovery and did a complete factory wipe, format cache, dalvik, wipe battery stats. To my great surprise it finished this before auto-shutdown due to flat battery. :fingers-crossed: Selected Power Off. After that it would never respond to the power button at all... so I figured I had struck out.
Well, for giggles I plugged the HTC wallwart charger back in (even though last night it never registered as charging)... the power button went to blinking red (from just-plain-off). I let it sit for a couple minutes like that, then powered it on and SURPRISE, it made it through the first-boot setup and into Settings/About Tablet/Battery where it shows it is charging AC.
This thing MAY BE alive! :good:
Has anyone else ever seen something like this?
Do you think the Wipe Battery Stats is what let it start charging again?
Should I follow up with SquareTrade and try to get this replaced anyway?

Not normal behaviur - i would go replace it as i would be always nervous looking at it.

Update!
Okay more data for the fodder.
I let it charge completely and the unplugged it to check if the GPS was working. After a short time to lock-on (yeah!) I took it back to my PC to see if I could connect to mount the SD card. The PC would NOT recognize the Flyer at all... nor would the charge light come on.
I then tried plugging in the HTC wall wart and it STILL wouldn't switch to charging. This is odd. The plug (right at the USB cable end/port) gets really warm.
I reboot to recovery and clear battery stats and then back into ROM and guess what? It's charging again.
I think the USB port or something is really messed up. I just wonder why Wiping Battery Stats fixes things.
Anyone?

Had this exact problem. The charging pins got pushed back out of place for the tablet/charger to make a stable connection.You have to openthe flyer then press the charging chip back in the charger port until its firmly in its place. It's realy simple if you find how to take the flyer apart. You'll need a torx screw size 6.
Edit do it at your own risk. If you follow through take your time

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Charging Problems after 2003SE rom upgrade

I went away for xmass, and the last thing I did before leaving (this is stupid i know) was to upgrade my XDAII to 2003SE 2.02 rom.
I brought only my USB charge cable because i didnt want to carry too much.
Now, when I plugged it in to charge on my PC it said charging and the light came on as usual. However, it seems it wasnt charging. I left it overnight expecting to have a charged unit, only to find it completely dead the next day.
Now, when I plug it in, the charge light comes on RED for about 2 minutes, then the unit comes on from a hard reset and shows both charge levels at ZERO.
It stays on for about 10 minutes pretending to charge, but only the backup battery charges, the main one doesnt charge at all. Then it goes off totally and the light goes red again.
If I turn the unit off while it goes red straigh away and wont come back on.
After a few minutes it comes back on and pretends to charge again. The Backup battery reached "100 %" but the main battery will not charge. its still at 0% and wont charge.
Ive connected it to a 5v2amp psu as it requires but this was via a powered usb charger so using the same lead, not the official cradle.
Im worried there is something wrong but dont have access to the cradle.
Has anyone else ever had experiance of a total discharge state on an XDAII ?
UPDATE
I travelled 50 miles today to get to the nearest charge cradle for an XDA2, put my battery in and it charged fine. I put it back in the XDA and it worked. However, when I got home I plugged it into the USB charge lead, and it came on and said charging again, with the yellow light and all seemed well. I left if for a bit and the battery was then dead again with no charge and back to showing the red light. it wont come on at all now.
This is the same lead i used previously and the only change is the 2003SE rom, has anyone else had a problem charging after doing this rom upgrade? Can I revert back to 172 ? how? help please.
Please help. IM screwed unless I can find a solution, has anyone got any idea?
Dude, I have the same problem on my 1.72 version. I have (of course) dropped by xda2 several times on the floor, but it works charging from the cradle (which again has a adapter connected to it) but not from my brand new USB sync+Charge cable. I have also tried another cable and even on a different PC. Only thing that happens, is that it says it is charging, but nooooo... it's all flat after a little while. It's as if the cable uses my XDA power to change the PC instead of the other way around
It's funny. So now I have to drag that big-ass charger along with me to work every day instead of that neat little USB cable.
Life is unfair!
As for your problems, I can only say that you're not alone.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I havent ever dropped mine, ive taken good care of it, so I dont think that is the cause. It does sound like the same issue however, I dont have my cradle here to test it though, just a usb sync+charge cable.
Does it work with the charge adaptor and psu alone? I mean the little thing that goes on the end of the mains psu to connect directly to the XDA without the cradle. How about on the cradle without the PSU plugged in?
I think this may be a hardware fault that needs repair, so its off back to o2 for mine if it is, you may find they would repair yours too.
Anyone else got an idea?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4330
With my charger alone, it charges perfectly. In the Cradle with the charger connected, it works too. I havn't tried to use the cradle alone using only the USB cable to the PC.
I think I might bring it to the repair-dudes when it's so trashed that it is not working at all Until then, i will keep on using it.
I have exactly the same problem. i am not sure if it was because of the upgrade, but this is what happened to me, I upgraded to 1.72wwe from the factory 1.66wwe and it was working fine when I noticed that sometimes when it was charging after pulling out the plug, the unit will display 0% charge from the external battery and then after plugging it again the power is at 100%, It happened twice and was ok again, I presumed it was just a glitch from the system and promptly dismissed it as such. After a week, it was hardresetting everytime i got it out of the plug. I brought it to the service center and they replaced the battery (it was under warranty) It was working fine then I upgraded to 2003se the unit was ok for about 3 days then i noticed that the unit was loosing charge and hardresetting everytime. I brought it to the service center again and they said they replaced the motherboard this time and was back to 1.66wwe. So far its ok and working fine.

HD2 Is not charging or turning on

okay so i have a hd2 with 2.08 hspl and everything as of yesterday after my 2.12 radio flash everything worked fin. but when i started charging it i noticed it didnt show the usb connection when it charges. well it had 9% left and i fell asleep i wont up and it was completely off. im pretty sure the radio disabled the charging ability or whatever when i took my dad to the airport at 4 i looked up a little bit and saw i should take the battery out for awhile then try? i did that and i got it to bootloader with USB but it wont sync. i then reset it and tried to turn it on it started to turn on then died i think the battery is dead cuz of this whole radio thing
so i guess my question is how do i fix it? do i need to install a Rilphone.dll? or go back to my old radio? if so how do i go back to my old radio. then again i could be all wrong
***update i got it into bootloader with usb again im going to leave it for awhile and see if i can get a charge***
****update 2, i guess i can charge it enough in bootloader mode, so how do i enable charging again so i dont have to charge in only bootloader mode?****
No need to go to boot loader to charge. Just keep the phone switched off and charge your phone. The LED will come up in a few seconds. Leave it to charge full till it becomes green as usual. Try putting your device in boot loader & flash YOUR REGION STOCK ROM. Then flash any custom ROM if you wish.
you sure? cuz it never charged before when it was plugged in normally, it just went till it died
take the battery out, plug in USB, then re apply battery. It should shortly begin to charge without trying to turn itself on (which it does if you simply plug usb in whilst battery is in.)
I doubt it was the radio, i'd be more inclined to think you
1 - bent a battery pin
or
2 - faulty hardware.
wait bent battery pin that would make alot more sense.
*checking pins*
it seems as if the middle one (ground) is bent up a little i pushed it down so that it was touching the battery and it worked. im just curious if it broke completely is it possible to replace these?
Courageousunicorn said:
wait bent battery pin that would make alot more sense.
*checking pins*
it seems as if the middle one (ground) is bent up a little i pushed it down so that it was touching the battery and it worked. im just curious if it broke completely is it possible to replace these?
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Looks like it would be a crazy tight solder job if it did, probably just as easy to get the whole device replaced.
My Easy Fix
So my phone HD2 will not turn on or charge when plugged it in. I was freaking out. 2 days without, until i found a thread that told me to take out the battery. Hold down and press the Red power button for 30 seconds. While holding it down put battery back in.. careful you are connecting battery pins to battery when doing this. Then plug back into the wall power not PC. Walah like magic MY once bricked T-Mobile turned back on. ( worked after the 6th try)
Best of Luck.
orimarjr69 said:
So my phone HD2 will not turn on or charge when plugged it in. I was freaking out. 2 days without, until i found a thread that told me to take out the battery. Hold down and press the Red power button for 30 seconds. While holding it down put battery back in.. careful you are connecting battery pins to battery when doing this. Then plug back into the wall power not PC. Walah like magic MY once bricked T-Mobile turned back on. ( worked after the 6th try)
Best of Luck.
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Thanks for sharing this info. this trick worked for me too.
The phone went past the boot screen n showed me windows mobile logo.
It did restart again once or twice. Then I kept the power button *pressed* continuosly till the phone booted up completely
sorta helped
orimarjr69 said:
So my phone HD2 will not turn on or charge when plugged it in. I was freaking out. 2 days without, until i found a thread that told me to take out the battery. Hold down and press the Red power button for 30 seconds. While holding it down put battery back in.. careful you are connecting battery pins to battery when doing this. Then plug back into the wall power not PC. Walah like magic MY once bricked T-Mobile turned back on. ( worked after the 6th try)
Best of Luck.
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I received a HD2 in a trade, and it was set up for android. I couldnt charge it, and when I turned it off.. it would just restart by itself... so i thought maybe if I put WM6.5 back on it, it would fix it, nope. This trick DID fix my charging issue, but unfortunately, NOT its restarting when I turn it off. So.. anyone have thoughts on that? lol

[Q] Rezound Bricked?

My Rezound is broken
I unlocked and de-sensed it, but that was when the unlock first came out and it's been working fine since, so I don't thing that's the problem.
The phone won't come on, and when I plug it in the charge light doesn't even come on. If I leave it plugged in, then take the battery out and put it back in the charge light comes on for a few seconds, then turns off.
I was at a new years party the night before and I may have laid down on top of it while it was in my pocket, but the water sensors are fine, and I don't remember it ever getting wet.
I notice there are a lot of connections between the phone and the back cover. Is it possible that something could be bent and these connections aren't being made, so the phone refuses to do anything? I tried putting wires across them where they would normally be connected, but it didn't seem to help.
So what do you guys think? Is there something else I can try? I guess if it's totally broken then they can't tell that it's unlocked, so I could try getting a replacement :/
First off, I wouldn't have put any wire across any of the antenna leads like that. Second, if the phone is not coming on with the cover off then you may have another problem. The phone should turn on without the cover. You just wouldn't have signal.
My opinion, try another batter if you know anyone who has one. Or maybe go to your VZW store and see if they will let you use one of theirs. If the battery/phone is too hot the LED will blink orange, once it is cool enough, or full enough to turn on/charge again it will become solid. The fact you get an indication when there is no battery leads me to believe there may be a problem with the battery itself.
with the phone off, pull the battery for several minutes. Then put it back in and plug it in to the charger. Do not try and turn the phone on. If the charge light comes on and stays on, just let it charge for a few hours until it turns green.
I've read of rezounds dying from the battery going completely out. Screws it up somehow. Verizon also has thunderbolt external chargers for 5 bucks. You could use that to charge the battery (it fits), then try and turn it on. If it still won't turn on after charging, put the battery in and try and boot into the bootloader menu (power on and vol down at the same time), from there you can restore your nandroid or flash another ROM if it will boot to it.
I tried leaving the battery out for a few minutes, and then for the rest of the day. No dice in either case. I'll try to get an external charger tomorrow :/
Thanks for the ideas, I'll let you know how it goes.
Mine died overnight. Same symptoms, charging light for a few seconds then nothing. I plugged it in, let it sit for a while (didn't time it, but not more than 15 minutes). Unplugged it, then: held power, volume up and volume down all at the same time. It booted up, as soon as the screen came on, I plugged it back into the charger. Running fine now. Hope this helps someone else.
Went to Verizon today. I bought another battery and ordered an external charger. Swapped in the new battery and the phone started right up
Now I just hope I didn't screw anything up messing with the antenna contacts :/
ministroni said:
Went to Verizon today. I bought another battery and ordered an external charger. Swapped in the new battery and the phone started right up
Now I just hope I didn't screw anything up messing with the antenna contacts :/
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After getting the new battery, does the orange LED come on while charging the phone when powered off? I replaced my battery after having the same problem and now the orange light does not stay on while the phone is charging when it is powered off. I guess it's no big deal, but it bothers me.
flie4wtguy said:
After getting the new battery, does the orange LED come on while charging the phone when powered off? I replaced my battery after having the same problem and now the orange light does not stay on while the phone is charging when it is powered off. I guess it's no big deal, but it bothers me.
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Yeah, it still works just fine. I turned it off just now and then plugged it in to check and the charging light came on immediately.
Maybe the battery is faulty or you got a thunderbolt battery by mistake and the phone is confused? Otherwise I have no clue why that would happen :/
I have them same problem. My phone is completely dead, won't turn on and a orange light comes on for 3 seconds and goes away and nothing happens. What do I need to do?
Sounds like your battery died. Pull the battery and let it sit for a few, then try to boot it back up and plug it in immediately.
I was reading a thread about this last night on RootzWiki. Dude did a lot of testing, came to find out it was ClockWorkMOD keeping a completely dead battery from charging at all. Is that the recovery you have? If so, I would put AmonRa on, try that.
Agreed, almost definitely a dead battery. You can try this:
1) Take out the battery and put it back in
2) Hold down power and volume down to enter the bootloader
3) Immediately plug the phone in and leave it there for 10 minutes or so
4) Reboot the phone now that you have enough power to make it through booting
This should work as long as your battery is completely dead.
My suggestion for the future though is to buy an external charger and a second battery. That's what I did, and now any time I accidentally let my battery die I just swap it out and I'm good to go at 100% while the other one recharges. Also an external charger is the easiest way to fix this if your battery is too dead for the above method.
ministroni said:
Went to Verizon today. I bought another battery and ordered an external charger. Swapped in the new battery and the phone started right up
Now I just hope I didn't screw anything up messing with the antenna contacts :/
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Also, remember that if you are using Clockwork Recovery for some reason that makes the phone not charge when its powered down. I had the similar issue where i couldnt get it to charge or come on at all, i put in a battery from my TBolt and it turned right on, switched Recovery to Amon Ra (Blue one, not the Red one) and from there it charged no problem!
worked...
slim6596 said:
Mine died overnight. Same symptoms, charging light for a few seconds then nothing. I plugged it in, let it sit for a while (didn't time it, but not more than 15 minutes). Unplugged it, then: held power, volume up and volume down all at the same time. It booted up, as soon as the screen came on, I plugged it back into the charger. Running fine now. Hope this helps someone else.
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this worked for me! thank you!! also to come to think of it, the problem happened after installing clockworkmod recovery. so there certainly seems to be a connection
slim6596 said:
Mine died overnight. Same symptoms, charging light for a few seconds then nothing. I plugged it in, let it sit for a while (didn't time it, but not more than 15 minutes). Unplugged it, then: held power, volume up and volume down all at the same time. It booted up, as soon as the screen came on, I plugged it back into the charger. Running fine now. Hope this helps someone else.
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This absolutely helped me! I'm really liking this Rezound I picked up but the damn thing is also just very temperamental in general. Still a fantastic underrated device overall though.
My wifes d2g did that once. I ended up taking an old charger, stripping the ends off and taping it to the contacts on the battery for 30 minutes. It charged it up and after that it would charge thru the phone again. A lot cheaper than a new battery.
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[Q] Unbeatable boot loop?

I recently received my fresh NT from the ebay sale, and yesterday had it running CM7, with CWM installed internally. Everything was fine with the world.
Today, I wake up and find it boot looping constantly.
- When plugged into USB, it boot loops constantly. As soon as the N screen disappears, it restarts. I can't even get it to turn off.
- When disconnected from USB, I can't even get it to turn on. Period.
- When disconnected from USB when the N screen is showing, it instantly shuts off.
- 8 Reboot trick doesn't work, booting onto a CWM or stock-flashing SDCard doesn't work, acclaim doesn't work.
Almost sounds like a dead battery, considering the instant shut-off when unplugged, but it can't charge because it's constantly trying to turn on. Any advice?
Leave it on the charger and don't touch it for about half an hour.
Sent from my Nook Tablet using Tapatalk
Unfortunately, it's degraded to the point that it won't even turn on -- plugged in or not. I'm going to go ahead and pass it off as a hardware failure and see if I can get an exchange.
mine is doing this , i didnt charge it last night , when i woke up it went to cynoboot showed 12 percent batt and now its looping just like what you said yours was , what is the end result ?
i've already taken the back off i have access to the batt connector im thinking about maybe rigging up a trickle charger to that directly also i dont have the BN charge cable im using a micro usb and its worked well so far, i did order a BN cable it should be home by the time i get home though , im guessing i need to find an alternative way to recharge this battery
id like to know if you got an exchange ? or if you still have the tablet ? im going to try a few other things too but if you still have yours and i figure it out ill pm it to you
solution
dude sorry to dump this on you years after wards , crack it open , flip it over to its back flip up the sd card cover take out the torx 5 screws , use a small flat head screw driver pop out the back tabs once its open , disconnect the battery and the other cable up top , i left em disconnected and tapped them with my volt meter , i saw a capp drain flat on the outside red and outside black lines, then after a few minuets reconnect the two cables , plug it into your power and leave it for 2 hours your now at screen of death and just need to charge the battery,
manually forced the device to reset , it keep running in circles and would never charge , just disconnect the batt man ...
mines on and at 20 % batt and charging ...
later
I have the same problem. Would letting it drained completely and recharge work? I don't have the right tiny screw driver for it. :crying:
I think the battery is still good. For me, It's able to get into CWM and install the latest cm-10.2-20130811-UNOFFICIAL-acclaim.zip. Just, when reboot, it goes into the endless booting "N" loop.
Thanks.
doublemhi said:
I recently received my fresh NT from the ebay sale, and yesterday had it running CM7, with CWM installed internally. Everything was fine with the world.
Today, I wake up and find it boot looping constantly.
- When plugged into USB, it boot loops constantly. As soon as the N screen disappears, it restarts. I can't even get it to turn off.
- When disconnected from USB, I can't even get it to turn on. Period.
- When disconnected from USB when the N screen is showing, it instantly shuts off.
- 8 Reboot trick doesn't work, booting onto a CWM or stock-flashing SDCard doesn't work, acclaim doesn't work.
Almost sounds like a dead battery, considering the instant shut-off when unplugged, but it can't charge because it's constantly trying to turn on. Any advice?
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Had almost the same problem as you. Bought a Nook Color off eBay. Battery was discharged to 0%. I didn't have the original Nook Color charger cable so I thought I was fscked. I had a few microUSB chargers lying around. I used an old Motorola flip-phone charger to charge it back to life.
Get ANY microUSB charger, like for an old cellphone, or buy one (they're cheap off the streets). Plug it in and let it charge overnight. Do NOT under any circumstances press the power button or you'll have to restart the charging process. The next morning my Nook Color booted up (although it had only 18% charge) and everything was fine (poor seller sold it on eBay for parts, I got it for $28 in total LOL, but I knew it was fine).
sagirfahmid3 said:
Had almost the same problem as you. Bought a Nook Color off eBay. Battery was discharged to 0%. I didn't have the original Nook Color charger cable so I thought I was fscked. I had a few microUSB chargers lying around. I used an old Motorola flip-phone charger to charge it back to life.
Get ANY microUSB charger, like for an old cellphone, or buy one (they're cheap off the streets). Plug it in and let it charge overnight. Do NOT under any circumstances press the power button or you'll have to restart the charging process. The next morning my Nook Color booted up (although it had only 18% charge) and everything was fine (poor seller sold it on eBay for parts, I got it for $28 in total LOL, but I knew it was fine).
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good score man , i by micro usb cables off amazon for 2.65$ shipped to the house , yea you can also get the torx 5 screw driver off ebay or amazon dirt cheap , if you want links let me know i will find a few for ya , i like to get stuff cheap but if you want it today you can get em at sears for a few dollars more ,
if you want links for torx 5 or usb cables that will work on the nook tablet / color , also you can get OEM from B&N for 9.99 i just ordered one from them a few weeks ago it works charms
cheers

Not charging, cannot power on. Battery issue?

Dug out my trusty Z3TC 16GB WiFi to browse the web and its dead and refuses to charge on 4+ different chargers. Won't respond to power+vol up or show any activity.
Software was fine when I last checked, running CM12.1 and no issues.
Anyone see a similar issue and know if the battery is likely to have failed or something more fundamental?
I'm ordering a pogo pin charger to see if that works, had a couple in the past but the connecting wires in the stand broke.
belrik said:
Dug out my trusty Z3TC 16GB WiFi to browse the web and its dead and refuses to charge on 4+ different chargers. Won't respond to power+vol up or show any activity.
Software was fine when I last checked, running CM12.1 and no issues.
Anyone see a similar issue and know if the battery is likely to have failed or something more fundamental?
I'm ordering a pogo pin charger to see if that works, had a couple in the past but the connecting wires in the stand broke.
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Happened to me. Try this: NEVER LET IT GO FULLY DEAD
https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/225037/No+Power+&+Not+Charging
Yup, saw that thread. Looks like I'm out of luck as I certainly can't resolder any of the components.
did u try with a quick charger?
Peace to all
I've tried most chargers and I have a lot of them, including original chargers for Z3 and Z4. Even trickling on a slow charger should recharge after 24 hours but nothing.
Wish I'd remembered to keep it charged, can't even get a bootloader up.
Try this??
Press the volume up button and power button together for 10 seconds. This should cause your device to vibrate 3 times and then show the battery charging screen.
Nope, I've tried all of these already. Probably need to open it.
weird dude.as far I know,li-on batteries need to fully discharged once in 30 charges.I made it once (it closed from battery) but nothing weird happened to me.I am always on KK 4.4.4
or u can try press the tiny reset button near to usb port.here says that nothing is being erased.
http://sony-xperia.mobi/eng/sony-xp...restart-button-on-sony-xperia-z3-compact.html
Peace to all
Good news! Thanks to everyone here who convinced me to persevere and not sell this tablet as broken!
For 4 days I have been charging the tablet and trying power+vol button combinations a couple of times each day and finally, on day 4, I was able to first get a red led. After the led went out about 10 mins later I tried vol+power again and got the emergency battery graphic plus red led. Led went out after ten mins again and had to use vol+power. Seemed to go a bit strange at that point and charging halted. Swapped chargers and waited.
Next time was the trick, got red led, it went out and I was able to get the normal, smaller charging graphic. Let it get a couple of % for safety and hit power, resulting in a full boot. Tablet is booted at 4% and charging OK.
Thanks to everyone that helped out.
glad to hear!so can u tell us the working process so just us to know just in case?....
Peace to all
kos25k said:
glad to hear!so can u tell us the working process so just us to know just in case?....
Peace to all
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Exactly as per above, keep repeating the power & vol- sequence and putting on charger for a few hours. Exact brand of charger doesn't seems to matter, the one it worked on was a no-name two-socket UK plug charger from Amazon. Obviously a 2A+ charger will help. The cable used was a generic Samsung 1m (3ft) lead.
Just repeat the process and leave it on the charger in between. I'd recommend not charging a unit like this unattended in case the battery is damaged and there's a battery failure, I've seen a lipo fire and they're ugly.
Thanks dude!enjoy the best tablet! ?
Peace to all
Dude glad you got it working. I love mine but i have it rooted. hoping that the latest stamina battery return update is rootable

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