It looks like we could loose a good developer to a Samsung phone (plasticly! ick!) in the near future, so I suggest anyone with a real desire to see a clean senseless version of ICS on this beast of a phone consider getting on board with this effort.
http://amaze.sandvold.as/
I'm not associated with this in any way other than being a user of the Amaze. I also know Sandvold's work from the HTC Desire, and they have some pretty good stuff running on some pretty limited hardware.
(For those unfamiliar, this started playing out on page 56 of the CM9 thread)
Edit: Said defecting-to-Samsung developer that I mentioned in the first sentence has since stated that he's sticking around for awhile.
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It looks like we could loose a good developer to a Samsung phone (plasticly! ick!) in the near future, so I suggest anyone with a real desire to see a clean senseless version of ICS on this beast of a phone consider getting on board with this effort.
http://amaze.sandvold.as/
I'm not associated with this in any way other than being a user of the Amaze. I also know Sandvold's work from the HTC Desire, and they have some pretty good stuff running on some pretty limited hardware.
(For those unfamiliar, this started playing out on page 56 of the CM9 thread)
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Will hopefully finish paying CC and will chip in LETS KEEP THIS THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE FORUMS!
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Will hopefully finish paying CC and will chip in LETS KEEP THIS THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE FORUMS!
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I know sandvold he's a good dev, helped me get my start in deving. Working with the one series he might have some knowledge about are ril problems. I've been meaning to talk to him.
Literally took me 4 tries to understand that sentence!
I am going to bump this thread every time it falls off the top spot on this page!
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Literally took me 4 tries to understand that sentence!
I am going to bump this thread every time it falls off the top spot on this page!
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Sorry for my lack of periods. Lol. I fixed it.
Wouldn't it be nice if each time someone posted it corresponded with a new donation?
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My donations will come at the end when I know my CC is paid off. Hopefully next week wednesday
Bump.
So there's no one else?
I remember earlier this year during a time of rapid development when the internal memory quit on his Desire. After letting everyone know that he tried and failed to revive the device, he checked in once more before going to bed to say he'd figure out what next to do tomorrow. We rallied and in the morning he had more than enough money for a replacement.
It was nice to see everyone come thru with a few bucks each and post in the thread all-of-a-sudden with a rapid succession of donations, willing that development not stop.
But that was the Desire. I'm guessing the user base was larger... but more active? It seems like there's only 3 of us here - passing the ball back and fourth. <shrug>
Anyone else wanna jump in here and prove me wrong with a donation? $10? $5? 2?!! :angel:
I'm hoping that more people will to Sandvold! I want to see development kick off on this device!
It says ending July 15th, but imho, should leave it up longer. Maybe even through the end of the year; hopefully people will get it for Christmas especially since the contract price will have dropped by then.
I understand what you mean, but I'd think he'd be moved on to another device before then.
I'm not aware of who made the two other donations, but I'll get it rolling ala Feb...
- Transaction ID: 3e40f4f4c87df913
- Contribution Amount: $20.00
I challenge someone else to kick in any amount to keep this going.
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just chipped in $20. Transaction id: 81W30201K05482905
I'll probably put my money towards my next Samsung. He's a smart dev for ditching HTC.
So we're about 1/3 of the way to getting Sandvold over here to help out with some CM9 goodness. Let's get this done people....
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I just put my amaze for sale maybe I should keep it around a little bit longer.
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I just put my amaze for sale maybe I should keep it around a little bit longer.
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I wanna say that real soon, we will have some more development. Don't believe me? Look at this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27773682&postcount=82
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27788674&postcount=87
Well then looks like I will keep it while I can then.
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Hasoon #1 come to canada i will take you on a nice shawarma date brother
Edit: I guess the easiest way to say it, if there are gonna be bounty or donate threads, I'd want to see the potential developer themselves say things to convince me of their awesomeness and desire to contribute.
Development does not make the device, I hope you guys know that.. outside of efforts to get things like CM9 and other true custom firmware, I'm not sure what people want. I don't think we need more developers unless they can contribute to those efforts.. or is that what this dev you want would bring to the table, and somehow I missed it?
I for one know that a GOOD developer can make plenty of contributions as long as they have a supply of willing testers, and if they could help make headway on any of the projects already going on - THEN I might be willing to throw a few dollars their way.. but I(and I think others) think that funds are too tight to share without more certain contributions..
We can't bribe a developer to come made solid contributions if they have no excitement for the device itself - unless they really WANT to contribute, if they have other projects going on, ours is always going to be a lower priority.
I hear what you're saying, and I agree. Personally I saw what was done with the Desire, and I think that my few dollars are well spent here. I'm hoping for more than Sense to pick from, and I think others feel that way too.
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Now that HTC made their announcement a couple of weeks ago, we have an actual ETA on the unlocked bootloader. That said, as we all know, it'll be a month or two before this goes into effect. I know that many people (myself included) jumped to the EVO 3D because of the spectacular dev support that the 4G received, hoping that the 3D would get similar support on even better hardware. I think there were many people disappointed in HTC regarding the bootloader and how long it took them to unlock it (and awesomely impressed with dev temp-root workarounds!), and I certainly wouldn't blame developers for jumping ship to another device due to impatience with HTC. Of course, if devs go, there will the people follow.
My question to the devs is that now that we're reaching the deadline of the 30 day exchange policy and with rumors of the Galaxy 2 II on the horizon, are you going to be sticking with the EVO3D or returning it to develop for another phone?
I ask not to call anyone out, but out of sheer curiosity and self-interest. As awesome as this phone is, I want to go with the phone that is going to get the most development, and I know I'm not alone in that regard.
Thanks for your time!
Personally I don't care. But you're going get flamed by some "Obese and Ugly" Super Nerd that has some kind of Napolean Complex and feels the need to tell you that this post is in the wrong section. He thinks he's doing XDA and the "interwebz" a service and also speculates daily that he's important on some grand level.
All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
I've jumped ship. I'll never purchase another HTC phone, they can shove them up their ass, lock their bootloaders and masterbate on the code as it prints out from their ****** iMac and MacBook Pro's.
..sigh.
VoXHTC said:
All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
..sigh.
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I would agree with this statement.
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I would agree with this statement.
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Sad but true .. all I want is to be able to tether
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
No one, just a bunch of morons talking out there ass
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
Really guys, is too soon to jump out the ship, we gotta be patience, I believe on the EVO3D dev team!
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I don't think any devs have jumped ship, theirs just no reason to develop anything right now. The only thing we have right now is temp root and that has been developed into something far beyond what it started off as.And not to forget the all the skins, unrooted rosie mods, overclocking and everyone behind the scenes working on trying to crack the bootloader with the little there is to work with. For now the 3D is a great example of the saying- when life throws you lemons... And when one of the outstanding Devs here squeezes the juice out of the locked bootloader we will have us one fine lemonade stand.
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
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Sorry, fixed the link. I was trying to do it from my phone, and it defaulted to mobile twitter.
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I wouldn't at all (even though we really aren't have a "Dev" discussion right now), I hardly see how anyone can say "HE" killed dev for our device. I don't think the dev is dead at all, hell, he tried to keep all the BS and stupid questions out of the Dev section. I personally think that the fact there has been a min post count rule implemented across the dev forums speaks volumes to and shows that people do need to read and respect the a) section and b) OP when posting in a thread, well.... lets say posting HTC rants in a thread dedicated to our temp root solution.
"He" may have been a bit slow to reopen the thread (in our section) that he was basically forced to police because of morons that can't read or comprehend just what a dev thread is for, but that hardly constitutes making the "Dev being dead, over and out". Said morons and illiterates actually drove the dev's to IRC, away from the public forum where they started and hoped to collect ideas and garner more support from the masses on the development work.
I would like to hear a dev say "he" killed their work on this device... sounds like crazy talk to me from some impatient users.
I won't be jumping ship (speaking as veteran flash addict and avid Dev supporter), we'll have our perm root one way or another. I am just surprised to see people acting so butt hurt over what is going on, a month out of the gate.
Now that, is some sad shhhht to sigh about...
Oh, and... IBTL
I hope allot of the 4g devs do make a appearance, I personally think most of them are the best there is. I believe we picked up a bunch of hero guys too, there's a whole lot of exceptional talent in that group too. I think once we get full root, theres going to be some real awesume stuff pop up overnight in this forum,
I do have to say the ones that are here now are going a great job and putting out a lot of badass stuff considering all most of them have to work with is teamwin's temp root.
/.....
So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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I heard deck, myn, and virus are aboard. I know fresh is. I am sure many other are. I also believe the dev responsible for the kernal for cm7 is aboard to. What is his name? Man bugging me now....
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So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
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I think that's pretty much where I'm at, just sitting tight. I found myself in the unfortunate spot of getting a 3D with a touchscreen issue, and I'm between doing a 30 day return or exchange. I think more than likely I'll end up keeping it (the thing is a beast), and it's good to know that there's other people sticking around
I think we should all jump ship and give up, after all that's why we're here, at xda developers. Also, this piece of junk unmatched phone had been out for a crazy long 37 days, what with no root... WTF. And that damn mod... Keeping morons with big mouths out of dev threads, what a douche, we should just let everyone say and do what they want in here. That way we could read more. I hope a mod closes this thread and bans the OP for a month, for fun (because this awesome development is... A question). Member since 08 ... Get some email addresses or follow them on Twitter, or pm them, or find them in webchat, that's how you talk to a dev.
BANG! from my shooter...
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You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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Good point. I did generalize by saying "devs" but I definitely meant both. ROMs are one of the best reasons to root. Looking forward to getting some CM, kushdeck, and MIUI on this bad boy, not to mention the host of awesome Sense developers like Myn, Virus, and Ava. From most responses, it seems like we don't have too much to worry about. As far as CM and MIUI are concerned, if demand is high enough, there'll either be an official release or at the very least a port, since they're community projects.
$$ bounty $$
MOD EDIT: BOUNTY WAS ACHIEVED AND DEVICE WAS PURCHASED
Here it is folks, the much requested bounty thread to get an amaze for Mr NRGZ28. "Who is that?" you ask, "and why should I care?" you add to your original question, causing this uncomfortably complicated sentence. Well I'm semi glad you asked! He's a totally stand up dude who sometimes also likes to sit, who has been devving for like, ever. I heard he started out on the telettrofono (look it up), and is known accross the west coast as the Rom whisperer (true story). He's currently running a sensation and making it live up to its name, but we'd like him to move up to an Amaze and work his magic. So we're chipping in to help. Here's his profie
NRGZ28
so you can stalk him. There you'll see super handy donate to me link which is like the best way possible to donate to him. So lets get going!
*IMPORTANT*
Make sure you add a note saying "for the amaze" to the donation, so he can keep track. I'll keep the thread updated with running totals when he gives them to me.
Disclaimers
So giving your money to a dev is like totally giving money away. Its gone. We hope it'll result in an amaze which will then result in awesome roms for the amaze, but no guarantees.
ok i'll start
Confirmation number: 0DR47233GX398405L.
$20 smakkers, which brings to grand total all the way up to
20 smakkers
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$$ bounty $$
Here it is folks, the much requested bounty thread to get an amaze for Mr NRGZ28. "Who is that?" you ask, "and why should I care?" you add to your original question, causing this uncomfortably complicated sentence. Well I'm semi glad you asked! He's a totally stand up dude who sometimes also likes to sit, who has been devving for like, ever. I heard he started out on the telettrofono (look it up), and is known accross the west coast as the Rom whisperer (true story). He's currently running a sensation and making it live up to its name, but we'd like him to move up to an Amaze and work his magic. So we're chipping in to help. Here's his profie
NRGZ28
so you can stalk him. There you'll see super handy donate to me link which is like the best way possible to donate to him. So lets get going!
*IMPORTANT*
Make sure you add a note saying "for the amaze" to the donation, so he can keep track. I'll keep the thread updated with running totals when he gives them to me.
Disclaimers
So giving your money to a dev is like totally giving money away. Its gone. We hope it'll result in an amaze which will then result in awesome roms for the amaze, but no guarantees.
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Very well done. I hope to see some of his good work in here.
I won't be giving any money. He never offers ANY type of support. People ask for help with his ROMs but he never replies. There are better Devs if you want to give your money to someone.
Harsh.. I'm sure I'll get flamed.. But check his ROM thread out..
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I won't be giving any money. He never offers ANY type of support. People ask for help with his ROMs but he never replies. There are better Devs if you want to give your money to someone.
Harsh.. I'm sure I'll get flamed.. But check his ROM thread out..
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.. or you could look at a thread where he has the phone and is actively devving, and see all the loyal followers talking about how many phones he's improved for them, and how few people have problems anyway, and haveplenty of support from the dev and all the very experienced users in the thread.
but in any case the thread is for people to donate, peeps who are not interested can kindly spend time elsewhere
Would love to donate when i get money. A extra dev would be lovely right now, been following the energy ROMs for a long while. Anyone know if eVil still devs on HTC devices? used to see him back in the mytouch days and he was a great one.. havent seen him around since the mytouch 3g slide or 4g (i think)
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I won't be giving any money. He never offers ANY type of support. People ask for help with his ROMs but he never replies. There are better Devs if you want to give your money to someone.
Harsh.. I'm sure I'll get flamed.. But check his ROM thread out..
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That's not very nice... I don't support the ROM actively because I don't own an Amaze (obviously) and therefore I can't exactly troubleshoot problems with it. This is the reason bobbie started this thread. I support all my other threads quite a lot. But like he said.. if you don't like it, don't crap on someone else's party. It's just not nice.
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Would love to donate when i get money. A extra dev would be lovely right now, been following the energy ROMs for a long while. Anyone know if eVil still devs on HTC devices? used to see him back in the mytouch days and he was a great one.. havent seen him around since the mytouch 3g slide or 4g (i think)
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That's mostly the case with chefs that only one device. Once the go to the Jesus phone, you never hear from them again. Myself, have been around for years and will continue to be around for more years to come.
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That's mostly the case with chefs that only one device. Once the go to the Jesus phone, you never hear from them again. Myself, have been around for years and will continue to be around for more years to come.
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Yeah true, just did a search and evil d is on the g2x lol. anyways didnt you do a lot of WinMo devices? i remember flashing some stuff on my HTC Pure a long time ago haha and HD2
stratax said:
Yeah true, just did a search and evil d is on the g2x lol. anyways didnt you do a lot of WinMo devices? i remember flashing some stuff on my HTC Pure a long time ago haha and HD2
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I did all the modern winmo devices... and I do a lot of android devices as well these days. Experience counts
Done!
Loved your work on my "retired" HD2...looking forward to what you will do on the Amaze!
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Great Now we're up to $45 !
Here in about a week I get an upgrade from T-mo, so ill be getting an Amaze. I don't have cash to give but I offer my working hd2. If you want the hassle of selling it, you can make a few bucks. Just to clarify, this isn't an offer to sell it. Its an offer to give, with original box, and I'll even cover shipping.
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I did all the modern winmo devices... and I do a lot of android devices as well these days. Experience counts
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you make my old pure a beast haha, cant wait for you to work on the Amaze.
btw this thread should be a sticky!
Wow, you made my hd2 a beast!!!!
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I may be getting another Amaze so you can purchase the one I have right now soon if you would like.
im going to make a donation on friday i really like your roms i sold my hd2 now im here and i have you rom running thank you
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Here in about a week I get an upgrade from T-mo, so ill be getting an Amaze. I don't have cash to give but I offer my working hd2. If you want the hassle of selling it, you can make a few bucks. Just to clarify, this isn't an offer to sell it. Its an offer to give, with original box, and I'll even cover shipping.
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That's a good idea! If nrg is too busy I could Ebay it and just forward him the money from pay pal
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Loved your work on my "retired" HD2...looking forward to what you will do on the Amaze!
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Sweet! Thank you my friend
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I may be getting another Amaze so you can purchase the one I have right now soon if you would like.
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Cool! great way to save a some moolah. The amaze is an awesome device, but the audience for it is really small right now, compared to a world phone like the sensation
I suppose the title says it all..
I know that the Amaze is lacking in development compared to devices such as the Sensation but there is so much drama here in the Amaze forums... It's kind of ridiculous.
I'm honestly considering buying an HTC Sensation just to get away from the drama here in the Amaze forum.
I really do believe that, though there are exceptions, this entire forum is full of a bunch of spoiled kids who wouldn't even have this device if it weren't for Mommy and Daddy.
Flaming and *****ing and generally behaving like children.
Alright folks.. Lets see how bad I get ripped open for this one..
I considered it for a short time but not after getting s - off. I am staying with my Amaze.
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I suppose the title says it all..
I know that the Amaze is lacking in development compared to devices such as the Sensation but there is so much drama here in the Amaze forums... It's kind of ridiculous.
I'm honestly considering buying an HTC Sensation just to get away from the drama here in the Amaze forum.
I really do believe that, though there are exceptions, this entire forum is full of a bunch of spoiled kids who wouldn't even have this device if it weren't for Mommy and Daddy.
Flaming and *****ing and generally behaving like children.
Alright folks.. Lets see how bad I get ripped open for this one..
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This isn't the only forum that's like this, you think it is because you come here the most, I'm 15, and I bought this phone saving up for it, nobody bought it for me, Forums are always like this where noobs/no lifes go into the scene
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LOL... Get a new phone because of childish behavior on this one? Really? LMAO That's childish in itself. If you only get a phone to participate in this community, then you need friends.
Instead of dumping your awesome phone, dump the "childish community" and leave your phone the way it is.
I mean you're a senior moderator. We could actually use your abilities to help moderate this ridiculous kid zone and clean it up.
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if you want to leave i will buy your phone...
Thanks to s-off we'll get busy here and the children and foolish will get shunned.... XDA as a community is full of experienced intelligent people.. The silver spooners will learn or move somewhere else when daddy buys the next new hot item with a stupid gimmicky lock screen....
Stick around its about to get better
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LOL... Get a new phone because of childish behavior on this one? Really? LMAO That's childish in itself. If you only get a phone to participate in this community, then you need friends.
Instead of dumping your awesome phone, dump the "childish community" and leave your phone the way it is.
I mean you're a senior moderator. We could actually use your abilities to help moderate this ridiculous kid zone and clean it up.
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I'm actually a retired senior moderator. I have absolutely no powers on this site anymore. I did pm MikeChannon requesting he reinstate me to this forum only in an attempt to help straighten it up so you're both right and wrong in that regard.
As far as buying a phone just to participate in a community, you're completely wrong about that. Every single phone I have owned since my first Motorola Razr has been a touch screen HTC device and I've been an active member of XDA for almost as long.
I also have no desire to get rid of my Amaze. I simply said that since I'm thoroughly addicted to XDA, I would almost rather have a sensation where there seems to be far less drama.
You see.. I'm a grown man with a wife and daughter. I'm an auto mechanic at a respectable car dealership and I have no desire to sift through 20 pages of useless threads and posts just to read a handful of useless, practical posts.
If Mike decides to reinstate me, you have my word that you will start to notice a big difference around here.
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that would be nice to have a mod around here. and ok... im just looking to get an amaze as cheap as possible
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I suppose the title says it all..
I know that the Amaze is lacking in development compared to devices such as the Sensation but there is so much drama here in the Amaze forums... It's kind of ridiculous.
I'm honestly considering buying an HTC Sensation just to get away from the drama here in the Amaze forum.
I really do believe that, though there are exceptions, this entire forum is full of a bunch of spoiled kids who wouldn't even have this device if it weren't for Mommy and Daddy.
Flaming and *****ing and generally behaving like children.
Alright folks.. Lets see how bad I get ripped open for this one..
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Im jumping ship to the one s asap. I cant stand to look at all these damn repeat forms! Plus this phone does carry a lot of drama.
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that would be nice to have a mod around here. and ok... im just looking to get an amaze as cheap as possible
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So you're saying there isn't a mod around here? I've posted plenty of warnings lately. :banghead:
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I'm actually a retired senior moderator. I have absolutely no powers on this site anymore. I did pm MikeChannon requesting he reinstate me to this forum only in an attempt to help straighten it up so you're both right and wrong in that regard.
As far as buying a phone just to participate in a community, you're completely wrong about that. Every single phone I have owned since my first Motorola Razr has been a touch screen HTC device and I've been an active member of XDA for almost as long.
I also have no desire to get rid of my Amaze. I simply said that since I'm thoroughly addicted to XDA, I would almost rather have a sensation where there seems to be far less drama.
You see.. I'm a grown man with a wife and daughter. I'm an auto mechanic at a respectable car dealership and I have no desire to sift through 20 pages of useless threads and posts just to read a handful of useless, practical posts.
If Mike decides to reinstate me, you have my word that you will start to notice a big difference around here.
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I'm with u on the BS here... but it wasn't this bad when Binary was here. So it can be fixed if we can get the right guy here to clean it up... aka babysit. Thanks
PS I'm also a 27 year old married man with a 9yr old son and a full time job. Also have an addiction to my phone, tablet, and gadgets... xda is just one outlet to feed the addiction
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So you're saying there isn't a mod around here? I've posted plenty of warnings lately. :banghead:
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With all do respect wardfan, and I personally appreciate your donated time, but the Amaze forum is as cluttered and messy as I've ever seen. Its been getting worse over the last month...... 12 ICS threads... none with ICS... ya know what I mean?
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So you're saying there isn't a mod around here? I've posted plenty of warnings lately. :banghead:
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D via Tapatalk 2.
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sorry didnt see that you were a moderator... (the xda moderator tags should be bolder... so that you guys stick out)
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With all do respect wardfan, and I personally appreciate your donated time, but the Amaze forum is as cluttered and messy as I've ever seen. Its been getting worse over the last month...... 12 ICS threads... none with ICS... ya know what I mean?
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You've said 12 ics threads plenty of times before, but I don't see them, either I'm blind or there's actually a lot less than that. But it's not just the mods job, it also takes plenty of help from the members for reporting things, since we can't be on all the time.
Anyways, back on topic, if you like the phone, which I know nothing about, I'd stick with it even with the childish behaviors lately. It sounds like some good stuff is going to start happening really soon.
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I suppose the title says it all..
I know that the Amaze is lacking in development compared to devices such as the Sensation but there is so much drama here in the Amaze forums... It's kind of ridiculous.
I'm honestly considering buying an HTC Sensation just to get away from the drama here in the Amaze forum.
I really do believe that, though there are exceptions, this entire forum is full of a bunch of spoiled kids who wouldn't even have this device if it weren't for Mommy and Daddy.
Flaming and *****ing and generally behaving like children.
Alright folks.. Lets see how bad I get ripped open for this one..
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its no better in any forum
HTC Sensation Virtuous 4.0 ICS goodness.
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So you're saying there isn't a mod around here? I've posted plenty of warnings lately. :banghead:
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I don't think that's exactly what he meant.
I'm sure you'll admit that it would be nice to have a partner to help maintain the Amaze forums. Who knows.. If Mike decides to reinstate all of my responsibilities as a Senior Mod, I can be of GREAT assistance to you. I know how to do all kinds of weird things.
I was the first person(that I know of) to figure out how to change the date stamp on any post. I actually changed the date stamp of the OP of one of my own threads in the HD2 forum by more than 2 years, predating the device.
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I don't think that's exactly what he meant.
I'm sure you'll admit that it would be nice to have a partner to help maintain the Amaze forums. Who knows.. If Mike decides to reinstate all of my responsibilities as a Senior Mod, I can be of GREAT assistance to you. I know how to do all kinds of weird things.
I was the first person(that I know of) to figure out how to change the date stamp on any post. I actually changed the date stamp of the OP of one of my own threads in the HD2 forum by more than 2 years, predating the device.
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I think I know what you meant, and there is a co-mod that does his own here. I think that I'm just a little to nice and let too much slide. The funny thing, when I did get stern people got crazy about it. So do you want a nice mod or a stern one, it doesn't seem to be enough for this forum either way
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So do you want a nice mod or a stern one, it doesn't seem to be enough for this forum either way
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I believe you need one of each. Having one nicer, understanding mod and then also a NO-BS mod who doesn't give too many chances.
I was the latter of the 2. I don't know if you are familiar with the HD2 fora or not but I am responsible for the restructure it received a while back. You have NO IDEA how many temp-perm bans I had to fork out both during and after that restructure with all the warez and new users we had come in. That forum was a real mess. I was the NO-BS mod that whipped it back into shape.
I'm just saying that even though you may very well be a great moderator(sorry I don't watch much these days) and your partner as well, it never hurts to have a 3rd set of eyes helping out.
Anyways...
You can really close this thread I suppose. I was just venting I guess.. Wanted to see if I was alone in my frustrations or not..
if anything I thought the "drama" only adds to the fun of the forums
i dont see how it affects what device you wold want to own.
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You've said 12 ics threads plenty of times before, but I don't see them, either I'm blind or there's actually a lot less than that. But it's not just the mods job, it also takes plenty of help from the members for reporting things, since we can't be on all the time.
Anyways, back on topic, if you like the phone, which I know nothing about, I'd stick with it even with the childish behaviors lately. It sounds like some good stuff is going to start happening really soon.
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I just reported 6 that have been commented on in the last 7 days... lol I labeled them ics1-ics6 for Wardfan in the report box. I would have copied and pasted all 12 but my laptop screen is junked and I'm just on my thrive tablet now. That also doesn't include 3 dev requests (2 from same guy) on what we all want in a ROM or the Amaze vs Sensation/sgs2/bb/etc... I hope that's sufficient
Edit.. I see some changes being made and THANK YOU from me at least..
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This is an ics bounty thread, every donation is welcomed.
Guru_shastri 50$
kailashpchhabria $20
Juannicolas 30$
o0 DIDDY 0o 25$
mwoliver 50$
emuking - 50$
princesa2000 - $50
craig0r - 50$ (@ the dev forum)
frankieGom - 30$
DNarsingh - 20$
Total: 375$
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Lets get this going!!!!
guru_shastri said:
Well, since i see no other option for us getting ICS i'm willing to offer 50 of my finest dollars to the first fella bringing ICS to the Jetstream.
you'r all welcom to chip in.
guru_shastri - 50$
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I pledge 50$ to this bounty.
guru_shastri - 50$
mgori - 50$
mgori said:
I pledge 50$ to this bounty.
guru_shastri - 50$
mgori - 50$
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I shall pledge $20 for now. Once get ahead with a job or post graduation, shall pool in more.
guru_shastri $50
Mgori $50
kailashpchhabria $20
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no one else?
I will go with a $30 for the moment.
Thanks, hopefully someone will pick up the project..
I'd do $25, then another $25 upon completion. Problem Is we would need to raise enough money for whichever Developer to buy a Jetstream to build with.
i know. i'm hoping one of the dev's already owning the jetstream (i think there's one or two other than task650) will keep it up..
if not - maybe we could get enough money to buy one..they are cheaper than they used to be
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i know. i'm hoping one of the dev's already owning the jetstream (i think there's one or two other than task650) will keep it up..
if not - maybe we could get enough money to buy one..they are cheaper than they used to be
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I brought it up to Newtoroot from mikmik, he said for it to be done he'd need the device. He's done amazing work over the years, recently he recoded the ril from the one x to bring sense 4 ICS for the the reZound.
i think there's an opportunity here.
if we could get enough money, and one of the members here would like to sell his device, maybe we can buy a device for development.
meanwhile we must wait for the bounty to grow..
guru_shastri said:
i think there's an opportunity here.
if we could get enough money, and one of the members here would like to sell his device, maybe we can buy a device for development.
meanwhile we must wait for the bounty to grow..
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Yes. Agreed. Please guys pool in. Even if we don't get a member to sell the device, I think a new one would be like $550 or something with contract. Let's see. Hopefully Russ's contact also comes through. He will post details himself once any news available.
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I would consider selling mine at a discount to a developer or trade for a thinkpad. Otherwise I would be willing to contribute to the bounty. IDK, it depends if anyone really thinks they can do it, but I've lost faith in HTC and hope in XDA.
They are selling refurbs outright for 350 on atts site right now
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I've got a little bit of experience with compiling Cyanogen. Work is crazy-busy for me lately, so I'm not sure when I'll have time to work on it, but I will do whatever I can to get this working.
I'm not much of a developer, so any help I can get will be appreciated. We'll need to look for other devices already running ICS that have similar hardware.
Like I said, work's crazy busy, so right now I don't have much time to hunt for this info.
However, I may be able to use the HP Touchpad (which I also have, running CM9) as a starting point. The Jetstream has a Qualcomm MSM8260 CPU, where the TP is using a MSM8060. They're similar, yet obviously not identical CPUs.
We'll also need to figure out the other hardware, like what display, touchscreen, wifi, etc. hardware the Jetstream is using.
With any luck, we'll get something. It sucks that Honeycomb is closed source. That'll make things a little bit harder. At least the kernel's open source still.
I'm going to post this over in the Dev section, for anyone who wants to help with data mining.
Oh, and I don't want the bounty. Just getting ICS on this device would be enough reward for me.
craig0r said:
I've got a little bit of experience with compiling Cyanogen. Work is crazy-busy for me lately, so I'm not sure when I'll have time to work on it, but I will do whatever I can to get this working.
I'm not much of a developer, so any help I can get will be appreciated. We'll need to look for other devices already running ICS that have similar hardware.
Like I said, work's crazy busy, so right now I don't have much time to hunt for this info.
However, I may be able to use the HP Touchpad (which I also have, running CM9) as a starting point. The Jetstream has a Qualcomm MSM8260 CPU, where the TP is using a MSM8060. They're similar, yet obviously not identical CPUs.
We'll also need to figure out the other hardware, like what display, touchscreen, wifi, etc. hardware the Jetstream is using.
With any luck, we'll get something. It sucks that Honeycomb is closed source. That'll make things a little bit harder. At least the kernel's open source still.
I'm going to post this over in the Dev section, for anyone who wants to help with data mining.
Oh, and I don't want the bounty. Just getting ICS on this device would be enough reward for me.
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Thank you. Would you be able to do something about s-off too? BOGMOH has got a s-off device. He is willing to help in order to aid us others to get the same. If you have some know how, could you help out for that too?
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kailashpchhabria said:
Thank you. Would you be able to do something about s-off too? BOGMOH has got a s-off device. He is willing to help in order to aid us others to get the same. If you have some know how, could you help out for that too?
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Doubtful. Like I said, I'm not a super-dev or anything, and things like bypassing/decrypting security are beyond me.
There's a couple people over in the Development forum who are buzzing about this. Apparently there *may* be an HTC dev willing to help out, if I understood correctly.
Let's push this!
this needs to get more attention. Otherwise it's just going to die off, I think for a developer to be truly interested we need more then $300, because building ICS for this device won't be easy. I know task has tried before and he said that he could not get it to work but I'm not sure how much time he had to play around with it since his daughter is sick. Maybe we can reach out to some tech media like Engadet, Boy Genius Report, or Tom's Hardware or even contact XDA and see if they can make a post about this on the portal homepage and really it this idea put there. I'm pretty sure that the jetstream has a bigger community then this just they might not know about xda...
its a matter of time, mainly.
this forum was never alive for more than a few days in a row..
people doesnt come here to often. we need to try and wait, and keep the posts going.
also - if someone feels the sums are too high, any contribution will count! even 5-10 dollars from a few people could make a change.
in the event of this not working, try signing my petition here, http://www.thepetitionsite.com/480/...ew-jetstream-jetstream-4g-android-40-upgrade/
What is the most insulting about the whole process is that HTC is discontinuing support (which is the only way to describe not updating software even a few months after release) and still insistent on keeping the device locked down for "user experience". I mean they could almost get XDA devs to do the support for free if they weren't so possessive about the device after the POS. Fingers crossed on that contact pulling through.
First off, this isn't a flame/finger-pointing thread. I am legitimately concerned about the future development for this phone. I LOVE this phone, but it hurts me to see all of the nonsensical drama and never ending bickering that goes on in every GD thread ever created on this site. It's actually quite incredible. Speaking of incredible, that was my last android phone and that forum is still kicking. Quite impressively actually. Rezound development has hit a slow patch for multiple reasons, such as source and slow updates etc. Which is totally understandable and I'm willing to be patient because I know it will be worth the wait, BUT what really bothers me is the amount of talent that has already jumped ship for whatever reasin. Will we be able to recover a few months down the road or has this phones reputation been tarnished for good?
Discuss.
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I suspect when source drops, several of the heavy weights will roll in. If not, I'm sure someone will step up and take a swing at it.
Sent from my evolving Rezound.
LunaticSerenade said:
I suspect when source drops, several of the heavy weights will roll in. If not, I'm sure someone will step up and take a swing at it.
Sent from my evolving Rezound.
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I would hope that is the case, but the drama that has taken place for the past 6 months could drive folks away. I think one thing we have going for us is price drops.
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I think you're confusing the reasons for slow development with a bad reputation for the phone owners. I haven't seen our bad reputation actually slow any development. Perhaps there are devs that would be willing to work on the Rezound if not for its owners always bickering, but I sure haven't heard about any. And out of the devs who have left, I think Protekk might be the only one who did so because of our reputation (and let's not get into the can of worms of whether or not he ever actually developed for the Rezound). If you look at the rest, they left for unsurprising reasons: better phones or phones that are easier to develop for (or personal reasons, like bored). I can only hope that we pick up devs as source is released and things get easier, but I suspect one of the things that keeps a phone development going strong is a large user base. I doubt that the Rezound shared the popularity of the original Incredible, or the popularity that the Nexus/SGS3/One X currently have.
This same problem is with the amaze!
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destro158 said:
I think you're confusing the reasons for slow development with a bad reputation for the phone owners. I haven't seen our bad reputation actually slow any development. Perhaps there are devs that would be willing to work on the Rezound if not for its owners always bickering, but I sure haven't heard about any. And out of the devs who have left, I think Protekk might be the only one who did so because of our reputation (and let's not get into the can of worms of whether or not he ever actually developed for the Rezound). If you look at the rest, they left for unsurprising reasons: better phones or phones that are easier to develop for (or personal reasons, like bored). I can only hope that we pick up devs as source is released and things get easier, but I suspect one of the things that keeps a phone development going strong is a large user base. I doubt that the Rezound shared the popularity of the original Incredible, or the popularity that the Nexus/SGS3/One X currently have.
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Good points. Basically, I just lose hope everytime something happens like what happened last night with joelz threads.
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sadly, i dont think so. we lost 95% of our devs. mostly due to asshattery and all around dumbasses who hate, troll and ruin the experience for anyone else. this community is broken right now and i dont know if we would ever be able to put the pieces back together....
Shadow Samurai said:
This same problem is with the amaze!
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Well, at least we aren't the only ones
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antp121 said:
sadly, i dont think so. we lost 95% of our devs. mostly due to asshattery and all around dumbasses who hate, troll and ruin the experience for anyone else. this community is broken right now and i dont know if we would ever be able to put the pieces back together....
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asshatery. I like that one lol
AshtonTS said:
Well, at least we aren't the only ones
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asshatery. I like that one lol
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yeah it was either that or douchebagery but i think that ones too mainstream :hipster: (<----totally need a smiley for that)
antp121 said:
sadly, i dont think so. we lost 95% of our devs. mostly due to asshattery and all around dumbasses who hate, troll and ruin the experience for anyone else. this community is broken right now and i dont know if we would ever be able to put the pieces back together....
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Not trying to incite anything, but what developers did we lose to people being stupid?
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Not trying to incite anything, but what developers did we lose to people being stupid?
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not necessarily being stupid but just ALL the STUPID dev fights...
lets see who we lost.
joel is preoccupied with school
bored is dealing with problems irl
newt went to mikmik
zone went to mikmik
scott got a one x
that leaves
con and meadows who got gnex's but still promise dev work
nils who is great
siul who does gsm stuff.
raptor who released a rom yesterday
slim
not to mention all of the people who jumped ship for the gnex (soon to be me too)
antp121 said:
not necessarily being stupid but just ALL the STUPID dev fights...
lets see who we lost.
joel is preoccupied with school
bored is dealing with problems irl
newt went to mikmik
zone went to mikmik
scott got a one x
that leaves
con and meadows who got gnex's but still promise dev work
nils who is great
siul who does gsm stuff.
raptor who released a rom yesterday
slim
not to mention all of the people who jumped ship for the gnex (soon to be me too)
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Okay, so your list isn't much different than what I had in my head. And although there has been some ridiculous fighting (including among devs) in the past, I believe that none of those who have actually left the Rezound did so because of the fighting. As messed up as our community may be, I still maintain it hasn't chased anybody off. Now it may not be welcoming people in either, but I'd imagine the main barrier to entry is the fact that the Rezound is an 8 month old phone with a small user base.
I'm not worried about it. Frankly there is a disconnect with developers and users. Expectations are high from both sides these days whether it be wanting updates frequently or asking for donations only to move on to greener pastures. I think everyone just needs to take a step back and relax. If you feel slighted, sorry but there is no guarantees and realize this is not work, nor is it the real world. Donations are supposed to be tokens of appreciation with no strings attached but hopefully the Devs reciprocate with new stuff. Take what we have a enjoy it. Support our current crew and hope for the best.
We have updated releases from Con, Nils, Slimrom, etc etc... We also still have roms here that are aged but work perfectly well like CR 4.5 or DE Edition, Joelz 2.1 ICS rom or even GB roms from Chingy and Scott. We also have several emerging developers that should be supported. I apologize if I missed anyone but I think everyone should be supported including our talented themers like MikeD and Zhp Pilot for example. We have fully functioning and stable GB and ICS releases that have been improved from the OTAs. Sure we don't have JB yet. But we have a device with an excellent camera that is reasonably up to date. I would get a Nexus as well if I felt compelled to do so, but probably would be unhappy when I took a picture on the outdated 5 mp camera that sucks imho. In other words, we all value different things and have opinions but the one thing we should all agree on is this bickering needs to end. Maybe if this forum becomes a little more user friendly, more people will come forward and even come back to contribute. Sorry for the long response.
Don't forget the ROM in my sig that is one of the most awesome ROMs I have ever run on ANY phone.
I don't think so, pretty much all the main devs have left to the Nexus now that JellyBean has come out and a lot of users are going there too. Most devs will be done with the Rezound before source ever comes out and I don't see them coming back. And with the Incredible 4g coming out very soon I see the left over devs and users making their way towards that, and the Rezound fading into the sunset
I'm an optimistic pessimist ... Basically I expect the worst but hope for the best. Actually, just a few days ago I decided to see if anything had gone on with my old Eris and found out cm7 recently came out running gb. I feel like the Rezound and Eris have a lot in common (not hardware wise! I just mean not ever really being pushed by vz, etc). So, yeah, sh*tty for now, but fine in the long run.I've been wanting to get into developing so maybe this is my time to shine! (Or not )
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The bickering was mostly a product of one immature dev in our community. Joelz complained about others Kanging his work, all while Kanging the exact people in return. He then began promising release dates and completely missing them multiple times. Noone needs ETAs but dont go posting them and then not even come close to making the deadline. He claimed a new release on between the 14-21 of Jun. Its obviously much after that and no release.
He is a child still in highschool and it reflects in his actions on here.
The small bickering is on most every forum.
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Don't forget the ROM in my sig that is one of the most awesome ROMs I have ever run on ANY phone.
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Knew I forgot one. Lol. Agreed.
Don't forget erishasnobattery. Probably would have had aosp had he stayed. He left because of both the community and because of the developers. He posted a nasty thread on rootz slamming our devs. I personally lost all respect for him after that post.
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The bickering was mostly a product of one immature dev in our community. Joelz complained about others Kanging his work, all while Kanging the exact people in return. He then began promising release dates and completely missing them multiple times. Noone needs ETAs but dont go posting them and then not even come close to making the deadline. He claimed a new release on between the 14-21 of Jun. Its obviously much after that and no release.
He is a child still in highschool and it reflects in his actions on here.
The small bickering is on most every forum.
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Not going to get into this but check out his last 3 pages in his pkmn thread with his new release and ill give you a link to his newest one that is basically stock sense 4 with mms bug and no tweaks so you can see he didn't rip anyone off and was trying to still dev while going to school this summer.
Edit: June Beta rom with no tweaks Description: Viper-rez_Beta
depositfiles.com http://multiupload.biz/df_6q0za7xd57te
rapidshare.com http://multiupload.biz/rs_6q0za7xd57te
uploading.com http://multiupload.biz/up_6q0za7xd57te
uploaded.to http://multiupload.biz/ul_6q0za7xd57te
bitshare.com http://multiupload.biz/bs_6q0za7xd57te
share-online.biz http://multiupload.biz/so_6q0za7xd57te
asfile.com http://multiupload.biz/as_6q0za7xd57te
I used multiupload so which ever site you trust more go right ahead and download.
This is also his most stable from late may that he never released do to a rebase
Chameleon Rom: http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/Rezound_Developers/Joel/.private