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Hi,
For those of you that have Battery Monitor Widget installed, what kind of average usage are you seeing with the phone idle, screen off?
On my old Desire it'd sit at something around low double digits, 10mA or so idle with the screen off...
On my new shiny SGSII it's at about 180mA odd, which may explain why I struggle to get a days usage out of it. I've tried different ROMs (stock rooted, lite'ning, currently on villain 2.4.2) and different modems (currently KG6) and have used Ti to freeze all of the samsung bloatware without any improvement...
What kinds of values are others seeing?
Thanks
Jon
in idle , i get average of 50-60mA .. but after 3,4 hours of idle , i can get it as low as 9-10mA .. running on sensation rom 1.4 .. in normal use , it will hike from 100+ma to 400mA ..
it's actually a bit higher than my last desire HD. which in idle can get as low as 4-5 mA .. i guess that's all depend on the kernel ..
seeing at your idle usage about 180mA, that's definitely have something wrong somewhere. gotta find what apps draining the battery
Just did a test while I was down the gym - with mobile data off, but streaming music to a bluetooth headset, it was down to 60-80mA. Turn it back on and it's gone back up again...
Gtalk is frozen, Latitude isn't signed in... Nothing obvious shows up in Better Battyer Stats.. Other than removing apps one by one, any bright ideas as to how to work out which is the culprit?
I think i read that HTC phones actuality give true mah battery rates where on the S2 it is only get`s estimated.
I fully charged it last night, and left it alone overnight. Perfect signal (local picocell about 10 ft away), pretty much everything disabled, all user apps, samsung stuff frozen - only google apps unfrozen. Background data disabled, bluetooth, gps, wifi off.
After a few minutes, after a short while at 60mA odd it sat idling at about 9mA pretty much all night - used about 8% overnight. I re-enabled background sync, now sat on my desk at work with a reasonable 3G signal it's sat at about 60mA.
Time to start unfreezing apps and see what's draining it!
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Time to start unfreezing apps and see what's draining it!
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Install 'Better Battery Stats' for that.
Regards.
ithehappy said:
Install 'Better Battery Stats' for that.
Regards.
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It's installed - I get a lot of events/0 and suspend listed in process, and not that many wakelocks listed...
I've just frozen the samsung email client (exchange) and the associated processes, and my usage has dropped from 60-100mA at idle to under 20 - looks like this may be the culprit!
Going to try unfreezing it and seeing if it goes back up again...
I gave up trying to freeze / unfreeze stuff - too much hassle.
So - did a factory reset this morning, so back to a totally fresh villain install. I even removed my 32G sd card in case that was causing issues..
Disabled automatic app re-installing, and have been slowly setting things back up while watching the juice usage.
Currently with touchwiz and all of the samsung crap frozen, no widgets running, my 2 gmail accounts and exchange activesync configured, and it's idling at about 50-60mA.
It's going to be a pretty drawn out process working out what's causing the drain
I would say that this isn't bad at all. Wifi and GPS are switched on with sync/fb/twitter all day and random txt messages. 1 minute screen timeout is the most of my battery usage. I was trying out my new car mount which caused the battery graph to reset. Running unnamed 1.2 1GHz max 200 min undervolted on conservative
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A lot better than me for sure. Yesterday I barely used my phone, but it was dead in about 14 hours. I don't know how you guys do it.
Post your battery usage and apps/widgets
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How do u do tht I cnt keep my battery charged I'm running aosp cmod set CPU everything it just takes forever to charge and it drains quick
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If it takes forever to charge, that means something is constantly using the cpu power and causing it to discharge while you're charging it. I use an extra battery charger and just swap between the two. Please post your wakelocks from betterbatterystats (available somewhere on the forums for free), your battery graph, installed apps, and current widgets you use.
Mine takes around 5 hours to charge, and that's when the phone is completely off. I'll do another test run today with Bluetooth and Kaiten mail turned off. From looking at the wakelocks in Spare Parts (BetterBatteryStats doesn't work for me with MIUI), those looked like the two main offenders.
Here is a graph showing my charging time:
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Somethings holding a wakelock and causing your phoen to be on all the time.
If Android OS is at 70% or above, you've got something waking up your phone.
If you look around, I've got a thread on known battery drainers here in General. I should ask Jivy26 to add it to the FAQ...
Actually, looking at the graph I think MIUI interpolated between the time my phone died and when I turned it on in the morning, so the 5 hour charging time I mentioned is most likely not correct.
Ok, quick update. I uninstalled some stuff that had a lot of activity in my MIUI battery history. I uninstalled Dolphin Browser HD, Amazon app store, Fancy Widgets, Pulse, Mobile Office, Brilliant Quotes. Also removed the IMDB and Flixster widgets from my home screen.
All of these showed activity in the battery history, but didn't show up as holding wakelocks. I guess whoever the culprit was, it just fell under Android OS.
Anyway, I went to bed with 92% battery and woke up 7 hours later with 91% battery left. This is with Bluetooth and wifi on, running GalnetMIUI 1.11.9 ICS with 200 min/1600 max, ondemand/noop. I guess I can't complain now.
I've also noticed that the ui feels a lot more responsive/less laggy, and the battery drops a lot slower when I'm using the phone.
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All of these showed activity in the battery history, but didn't show up as holding wakelocks. I guess whoever the culprit was, it just fell under Android OS.
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This is common, if you look at my Known Battery Drainers thread you'll see that there are a lot of usage cases where a rogue app can get its usage blamed on Android OS.
Specifically, any app that drives data to your phone will cause the phone to wake every time it receives data. In some cases, this means 800 milliseconds spent resuming/suspending to process 10 bytes of data (which takes the app itself next to no time.)
It sometimes gets worse on wifi because some apps change data usage patterns when on wifi.
A situation like that usually causes a lot of wlan_wake, wlan_rx, or svnet-dormancy wakelocks in /proc/wakelocks (BBS does not show kernel wakelocks properly yet - chamonix added the feature recently but it's not quite working yet.)
My guess is it was fancy widgets/pulse. I use dolphin browser, amazon app store and they do not effect battery life at all.
That is my suspicion as well, and I will try adding apps back one by one to see which one was the culprit.
Right now RILJ Dialer is waking up my phone constantly with hundreds of wakelocks. Many people seem to have this problem, but I haven't seen a solution.
Well, this is looking very good! I never expected this kind of battery life.
Any thoughts on the wakelocks? Not sure if I should worry about them or not.
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Somethings still causing your phone to stay awake. Try removing all widget from your home pages
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Anyone else having issues with battery life? I can go from 54% to 14% overnight, totally stock install with no added apps.
My HDX 8.9 only loses about 2% over night. Get a task killer and see what you can kill.
Fully recharged it, watched a movie for a few mins, then let it sit for four hours or so. It managed to go from 84% to 72%. For some reason while it does stay connected to my wifi, it keeps losing internet connectivity.
I got a taskkiller app and killed a few processes, I don't believe it should be necessary though. I wonder if I got a dud since no one else seems to be reporting the same issue.
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Fully recharged it, watched a movie for a few mins, then let it sit for four hours or so. It managed to go from 84% to 72%. For some reason while it does stay connected to my wifi, it keeps losing internet connectivity.
I got a taskkiller app and killed a few processes, I don't believe it should be necessary though. I wonder if I got a dud since no one else seems to be reporting the same issue.
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Most likely you have a rouge app. Uninstall all unnecessary apps. if the problem persists then install gsam battery monitor and track the irritant. Uninstall annoyance and all is happy again
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Most likely you have a rouge app. Uninstall all unnecessary apps. if the problem persists then install gsam battery monitor and track the irritant. Uninstall annoyance and all is happy again
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Totally stock install, to my knowledge I can't uninstall any of the preinstalled stuff. The battery issues persist though reboot so if it's a stock app with some issue there's not much I can do about it at this time.
On a possibly related note I've been having issues with internet connectivity, after my fire is inactive for some period of time it loses connection to the internet but stays connected to wifi. I have to toggle the wifi to get the data working again.
I finally decided to just get them to ship me a replacement, should hopefully solve all of my issues without me having to spend days trying to diagnose any problems with my limited access.
install wake lock detector and see which app is locking cpu.
azfar said:
install wake lock detector and see which app is locking cpu.
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I have discovered that the location services can cause this exact issue due to constant polling. This issue is worsened with the additional use of the Google Android location services. Make sure you do not have the Location setting turned on in the "Wireless" tab of settings.
This issue only occurs intermittently, but when it does, it continues until location services are disabled & the device is restarted.
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I have discovered that the location services can cause this exact issue due to constant polling. This issue is worsened with the additional use of the Google Android location services. Make sure you do not have the Location setting turned on in the "Wireless" tab of settings.
This issue only occurs intermittently, but when it does, it continues until location services are disabled & the device is restarted.
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It wasn't enabled, I got my new kindle today though and just unboxed it. Hopefully it's resolved now.
Edit: Nope, same issue. When I got it, I turned it on, went though the tutorial, made sure location wasn't on, then turned off the screen and sat it on my desk. Six hours later I'm down 16%. Guess it's not as bad as before, but it's still not great. I wish amazon had better battery stats.
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It wasn't enabled, I got my new kindle today though and just unboxed it. Hopefully it's resolved now.
Edit: Nope, same issue. When I got it, I turned it on, went though the tutorial, made sure location wasn't on, then turned off the screen and sat it on my desk. Six hours later I'm down 16%. Guess it's not as bad as before, but it's still not great. I wish amazon had better battery stats.
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I have great battery life and idle time. Did you download anything at all? Did you change any settings?
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I have great battery life and idle time. Did you download anything at all? Did you change any settings?
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Nope nothing, I can't think of any reason why two separate devices would act this way when no one else is having the same issue.
From when I edited my previous post to now, it's gone down 33%. (Which is a little over 2% per hour)
Edit: I installed better battery stats from an APK (didn't realize it would let me do this), so hopefully now I can see what's eating up the battery.
Edit 2: Something called msm_hsic_host is what's draining my battery. Apparently that has something to do with a cellular modem, which I find odd since my device is wifi only.
Edit 3: Installed DS Battery Saver, set it to slumber (If screen's off, data's off), problem solved.
Anyone having abnormally high cell standby under battery usage?
I mean even higher than screen. Any fixes?
Yes. Several people are talking about it. Turing off WiFi calling and WiFi might fix it. It's a 5.0.2 issue.
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Anyone having abnormally high cell standby under battery usage?
I mean even higher than screen. Any fixes?
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Yup, mine burned through about 20% battery in about an hour with incredibly small amounts of use. Cell standby has been at the top of the list since I started using the Edge. Hopefully this gets fixed ASAP.
Update: It may be WiFi related.
I've been on LTE all day and cell standby doesn't even show up anymore in the top 8.
Is the "charge to full" step absolutely necessary? Only wondering because I turned off Wifi and haven't seen much of a change. That would kind of suck if I have to leave Wifi off all the time to get decent battery life.
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Is the "charge to full" step absolutely necessary? Only wondering because I turned off Wifi and haven't seen much of a change. That would kind of suck if I have to leave Wifi off all the time to get decent battery life.
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I'm sure issue will get fixed on a update. Keep in mind phone is technically not being released until April 10th. We are the lucky ones!
I've had massive battery drain today, but for some reason I don't even see cell standby in the list of battery stats. Any idea why that might be?
russianzilla said:
I've had massive battery drain today, but for some reason I don't even see cell standby in the list of battery stats. Any idea why that might be?
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Post a picture of usage.
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Post a picture of usage.
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Attached. Also, I swear when I posted earlier, cell standby wasn't in the list, but it is now.
Screen-on time when I took these was around the 1:50 mark. Also, I'm a little concerned with how much energy Google Services is taking up...
Google Services should not be that high. The phone may need to settle.
I got over 4 hours of SOT with screen set at about 80%. Pretty happy.
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Google Services should not be that high. The phone may need to settle.
I got over 4 hours of SOT with screen set at about 80%. Pretty happy.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Also lo and behold, after a few hours with Wi-Fi on, standby usage is way up...
I'm experiencing the same issue guys. This is frustrating i even did factory reset and turned of wifi calling. it doesn't seem to help.
2 hours 37 min SoT.
Good cell signal all day too. Never dropped off LTE. And stronger speeds than my Nexus 6. Weird!
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Google Services should not be that high. The phone may need to settle.
I got over 4 hours of SOT with screen set at about 80%. Pretty happy.
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There's a Google services fix in the play store. Helped fix those types of errors on the G2 & may be worth a shot for you guys
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There's a Google services fix in the play store. Helped fix those types of errors on the G2 & may be worth a shot for you guys
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Under what name? I don't see Google Services (or Google Play Services) listed under "My Apps" either for an update or in the list of up-to-date apps or using a search...?
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Under what name? I don't see Google Services (or Google Play Services) listed under "My Apps" either for an update or in the list of up-to-date apps or using a search...?
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I found an app called GServiceFix that seems to be the one referenced.
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I found an app called GServiceFix that seems to be the one referenced.
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Based on the reviews and the lack of an actual explanation of what it does, it looks a little too sketchy for me.
As an aside, it looks like the real culprit for high standby usage might be VoLTE, not Wi-Fi. I turned off VoLTE, turned on Wi-Fi, charged my phone to 100%, then left it on battery overnight to measure standby. I only lost about 10% over seven hours, and according to battery stats only 1 - 2% was actually standby. The rest was Google Services and some other stuff.
As an aside, it looks like the real culprit for high standby usage might be VoLTE, not Wi-Fi. I turned off VoLTE, turned on Wi-Fi, charged my phone to 100%, then left it on battery overnight to measure standby. I only lost about 10% over seven hours, and according to battery stats only 1 - 2% was actually standby. The rest was Google Services and some other stuff.[/QUOTE]
Same case happened after I turned off VoLTE and wi-fi calling.
6% battery drain for 7 1/2 hrs standby with wi-fi on.
Cell standby accounts for 1% of battery usage.
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As an aside, it looks like the real culprit for high standby usage might be VoLTE, not Wi-Fi. I turned off VoLTE, turned on Wi-Fi, charged my phone to 100%, then left it on battery overnight to measure standby. I only lost about 10% over seven hours, and according to battery stats only 1 - 2% was actually standby. The rest was Google Services and some other stuff.
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Same case happened after I turned off VoLTE and wi-fi calling.
6% battery drain for 7 1/2 hrs standby with wi-fi on.
Cell standby accounts for 1% of battery usage.[/QUOTE]
Will be trying this tomorrow (no VoLTE, but WiFI on).
I'm on AT&T, same issue. Cell standby is a 24%. I took my phone off the charger at 7:30 AM. I was at 37% at about 5 o'clock with very light usage. Charging now to get through the evening.
I'm not exactly sure what is causing it to drain like this. I'm assuming it's not supposed to be this bad otherwise nobody would be using it.
Strange. ..
No bother here, AOD I have no use for especially with extra battery drain.
It can't be the AOD. I've been playing around with this since your post yesterday. I've been unplugged since before 6am and it is now after 1pm here. Battery usage is saying I've been unplugged for over 7.5 hours. In that time, I've used 15% with 7% in the last three hours. Since then, I've had AOD on, watched a few youtube videos, listened to music from the SD card for about an hour, checked email and texts, checked G+ a couple of times, and scrolled through Instagram. Phone idle is reading 4% usage, Android OD is 2%, Google Services 2%, Screen 2%, Music 1%, Android System 1%, Youtube 1%. Which leaves a few mystery processes that didn't register enough to warrant a 1%.
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Make sure in aod settings that brighter display is not enabled. I agree with the previous post that since having the phone for a week and a half that aod is very minimal on battery usage. Personally I think it is a great feature since there is no led to show missed text or emails. I just glance at the screen to see if I missed any without having to unlock the phone.
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Bryan
AOD might take 10% over 8 hrs at most. You def got something else happening.
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I'm not sure what's eating it up then. I have wifi enabled but I don't think that should cause so much discharge.
Can you try the test again tonight in airplane mode? That will give a more accurate result.
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I'm not sure what's eating it up then. I have wifi enabled but I don't think that should cause so much discharge.
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Maybe try to turn off anything that syncs and test again? Im thinking Google auto syncs and the like.
phone idle 39% then second is android OS at 31%
39%? You definitely need to look into what else is running because I can tell you it isn't AOD. I get about 1%-ish per hour for phone idle.
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39%? You definitely need to look into what else is running because I can tell you it isn't AOD. I get about 1%-ish per hour for phone idle.
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Do you recommend something? Nothing tells me in detail to what is causing the discharge. My phone is not rooted and I don't really plan on doing it. Now it's saying idle 55% and Android OS 41%
No idea what to tell you to look at. I just know that I'm running AOD my phone sips 1% of battery over an hour's time if I leave it alone. There's something else going on with your phone when it idles.
Personally, I'd do a master reset ... if it continues - and not associated with an app - trade that sucker in for a new one.
Okay so this may sound odd and I can't officially say it's related but I disabled google's location history on my old phone and so far there's a noticeable difference. I will test it at night when I go to sleep. Usually by the morning 30% of the batter is drained.
Did you try to disable all google syncing?
This is really weird. I just checked my phone and I've had it off of a charger for the past 9 hours. I'm only down 10% battery and only 3% phone idle battery usage. I checked my google location history and that's turned on as expected.
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This is really weird. I just checked my phone and I've had it off of a charger for the past 9 hours. I'm only down 10% battery and only 3% phone idle battery usage. I checked my google location history and that's turned on as expected.
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So I left it the same way I normally would over night and this time it drained 9% instead of the usual 30%. Although the usage still says 41% on idle. I don' t know what's going on. I may have to do a factory reset as suggested by someone else
I noticed something weird. If you've got sync on for all of Google services but have each app (Like Drive, Etc) setup to update on Wi-Fi only, it might keep it attempting to sync forever. I went into each individual app and changed to update over Wi-Fi and data. Then the sync completed. Not sure if this is relevant but I thought it worth looking into if you've got sync on.
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