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Am I understanding this correctly? I need to post 10 times in General or Q/A before I can post in Development thread?
I don't have any Q/A posts to create other than this and I don't have any general questions.
All I wanted to do was post to a thread that the Kernel is running great and no issues so far.
The only question I have is the following:
Should I post then new posts that are useless to get my count up
or
Post back to this thread I created 10 times?
I am leaning toward the latter but before I do I want to make sure I do not get anyones panties in a bunch. If this is an issue I'll just leave it as is and stick to reading.
If you just wanted to thank the dev who made the kernel, you could always just click the thanks button.
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If you just wanted to thank the dev who made the kernel, you could always just click the thanks button.
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Well yes but wanted to report my success and setup as well.
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From my understanding of this forum, this isn't like other forums where you would post all questions and comments that are related to development in the development section. Since this is xda-DEVELOPERS they seem to assume that all questions are going to be related to development.
So all regular comments go in the General section, and all Questions go in the Q&A section. I believe they want you to post in the dev section only if you are developing something (a kernal, a rom, a mod like CWM).
If you want to report success on a specific rom or kernel, couldn't you just hit "reply" in the thread for that kernel? That's what I usually do.
Also, this will probably keep you from getting griped at by lots and lots of wannabe moderators (in addition to the real moderators).
Yea I know how u feel I'm on number 4 I think so this will be 5 half way there.
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Yea I know how u feel I'm on number 4 I think so this will be 5 half way there.
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What all are you looking to post in the Dev section anyways?
lane32x said:
From my understanding of this forum, this isn't like other forums where you would post all questions and comments that are related to development in the development section. Since this is xda-DEVELOPERS they seem to assume that all questions are going to be related to development.
So all regular comments go in the General section, and all Questions go in the Q&A section. I believe they want you to post in the dev section only if you are developing something (a kernal, a rom, a mod like CWM).
If you want to report success on a specific rom or kernel, couldn't you just hit "reply" in the thread for that kernel? That's what I usually do.
Also, this will probably keep you from getting griped at by lots and lots of wannabe moderators (in addition to the real moderators).
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You can't POST, not just not make new threads.
lane32x said:
What all are you looking to post in the Dev section anyways?
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Just if I have a question I would like to post it there so I could be seen by people that are on those threads.
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Just if I have a question I would like to post it there so I could be seen by people that are on those threads.
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Questions belong in Q&A. Questions/problems on a specific ROM/KERNEL/MOD in the development forum belong in the thread related to what you have the question/problem with, not in a new topic. The development forum is for releases of stuff only, along with discussion in the same thread about said releases.
thanks for the clarification. one of these days i will get my 10 post in to thank all the hard working developers
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Questions belong in Q&A. Questions/problems on a specific ROM/KERNEL/MOD in the development forum belong in the thread related to what you have the question/problem with, not in a new topic. The development forum is for releases of stuff only, along with discussion in the same thread about said releases.
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That's what I want to do I can't ask a question to the kernel threads until I have 10.
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Ask in this forum and someone will help, am sure.
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Same here I was going to post in the developers kernel thread to provide feedback as it was new and they look for feedback.
This rule I can understand for new posts but for replying to existing posts I don't understand other than the fact you get a lot of people that post in wrong places all the time. However this will happen with this rule in place or not as they can reach ten posts pretty quickly.
Either way just found it an odd rule. Some forums do a "you must be a member for X days before you can post". This rule allows new members to do reading before they just start posting all over the joint. That one I understand.
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Same here I was going to post in the developers kernel thread to provide feedback as it was new and they look for feedback.
This rule I can understand for new posts but for replying to existing posts I don't understand other than the fact you get a lot of people that post in wrong places all the time. However this will happen with this rule in place or not as they can reach ten posts pretty quickly.
Either way just found it an odd rule. Some forums do a "you must be a member for X days before you can post". This rule allows new members to do reading before they just start posting all over the joint. That one I understand.
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Devs do check out the Q/A and general section too, so you dont have to post in their thread if you have a problem.
One good thing regarding the 10 post is that people wont post a thread with a question in the development section. A lot of people who accidentally post there says that their question has to do with development, and so they decided to post there instead of Q/A or general section. If people with a lot of posts still does this, by accident or not, imagine how much work mods will have to do if anyone can post there and is new to the forum.
Can someone help with root? I don't have PC but I have netbook with windows. 7starter will that get the job done I'm stuck in 2.1 still
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Can someone help with root? I don't have PC but I have netbook with windows. 7starter will that get the job done I'm stuck in 2.1 still
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Your current computer is perfect for what you need to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722 Happy reading.
good day.
RE: 10 posts
I guess I should get started. I've been reading the forum for a while but never posted before.
yeah i cant post replys in development section either. this is more up-to-date that DroidForums tho...
Don't worry, this is my second post.
I don't think you can even thank somebody till u get 5 posts. Thank you button is hidden.
Hey guys,
when flashed, do the nightly builds of cm7 completely overwrite and erase the preexisting information on the phone (apps, contacts), or does it simply apply any patches or updates without modifying user data?
Thanks
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Might work better if you posted in the correct section. Or maybe even the CM7 thread??
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Might work better if you posted in the correct section. Or maybe even the CM7 thread??
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Yea you know I'm not quite sure where the mods have been but it's been a bit of a free for all around here. There is actually a general and q & a section on here ....I mean, there is a post in the development section that says:
[ROM] cm7 nightly Discussion.......
What does that even mean? At first I thought it was a new rom but realized it was someone who actually posted a discussion thread in the development section when we have a whole section devoted just to general stuff. If I was jt reading through the nightly thread my blood would boil over the amount of useless BS clutter.
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Yea you know I'm not quite sure where the mods have been but it's been a bit of a free for all around here. There is actually a general and q & a section on here ....I mean, there is a post in the development section that says:
[ROM] cm7 nightly Discussion.......
What does that even mean? At first I thought it was a new rom but realized it was someone who actually posted a discussion thread in the development section when we have a whole section devoted just to general stuff. If I was jt reading through the nightly thread my blood would boil over the amount of useless BS clutter.
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Well the reason I didn't post in some thread is because you don't get notified if someone replied to your question... as long as the question is relevant what should the location matter?
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gubiguy said:
Well the reason I didn't post in some thread is because you don't get notified if someone replied to your question... as long as the question is relevant what should the location matter?
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This is the development forum. Questions are not development. This fact makes it irrelevant.
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My apologies everyone. Can a mod please move the thread to the correct location? If not, then just close it.
PS: Jt, thanks for your hard work- along with the other devs.
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Its amazing how someone posts in the wrong section the thread gets at least 5 responses all of which were how the OP posted in the wrong section.
So to answer the OPs question, the only way it will remove your personal data is when you are in recovery and wipe Data. And if you have your Contacts saved to your Gmail account they will get restored when you wipe data.
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Its amazing how someone posts in the wrong section the thread gets at least 5 responses all of which were how the OP posted in the wrong section.
So to answer the OPs question, the only way it will remove your personal data is when you are in recovery and wipe Data. And if you have your Contacts saved to your Gmail account they will get restored when you wipe data.
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This is why, "@_jt1134_Stupidity and poor forum moderation/administration reigns supreme. Nothing new from me will appear on xda. CC: @RootzWiki.
...and then people like you come along and answer the question anyways.
We are losing devs over this BS so stop encouraging bad behavior.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Dev forum once require you to be a recognized and registered developer in order to start a thread? Or was I just dreaming?
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This is why, "@_jt1134_Stupidity and poor forum moderation/administration reigns supreme. Nothing new from me will appear on xda. CC: @RootzWiki.
...and then people like you come along and answer the question anyways.
We are losing devs over this BS so stop encouraging bad behavior.
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So you mean the bad moderation of answering the question and then moving the thread to the correct area after the OP has been told they posted in the wrong section, its so funny how people automatically thinks a new user is gonna know exactly where to post, considering how many posts that are in the wrong section are probably gonna be from a person who posts in the wrong section and then won't be heard again. But they are definitely never gonna be heard of if they post something and never get a answer, but all they get is criticism, seriously people, just let the OP know wrong section, but at least answer the question.
Or even better just merge all the sections together so there is no longer a need to say WRONG SECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Been working on a build of CM7 - got my laptop back up and running and thought I'd tackle this. Last night I started the build and woke up this morning to this:
make: *** No rule to make target `vendor/samsung/c1-common/proprietary/BCM4330B1_002.001.003.0128.0162.hcd', needed by `out/target/product/galaxys2att/system/bin/BCM4330B1_002.001.003.0128.0162.hcd'. Stop.
Any idea how to get passed this? From the looks of it, I was close to the end of the build process
Thanks I appreciate any help...
Sort of got this resolved. Codeworkx simply stated its an issue of missing proprietary files. Ill have to copy them over which I'm not sure why they weren't in the first place...
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Thread moved to General since there is no Dev work being made here... yet. If you happen to fix your issue and want to make a rom, then start a new thread in the Dev section with a link pointing to the rom.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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Thread moved to General since there is no Dev work being made here... yet. If you happen to fix your issue and want to make a rom, then start a new thread in the Dev section with a link pointing to the rom.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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Debugging a compiler error isn't development? Perhaps the so called development forums are becoming too focused on showing off wares, with little or no attention being paid to actually developing?
At first he was asking a question about decompiling. Since he answered his own questions, I threw it in General. Since he is not offering a rom/kernel/tool then this does not belong in the Dev section.
Thanks I guess.
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Sounds like a developer question to me... perhaps the development forum should be renamed to Roms or something
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Sounds like a developer question to me... perhaps the development forum should be renamed to Roms or something
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Read the sticky in the Dev forum...
blahze9 said:
Sounds like a developer question to me... perhaps the development forum should be renamed to Roms or something
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Exactly, it is a question so it would belong in the Q/A sections not the development section. This stuff isn't new, read the forum rules. Quite simple to understand if you ask me.
The way I see it, its just red's opinion. He sees it fit in here then so be it, his opinion and we just have to live with it. Regardless its still all search able information.
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The way I see it, its just red's opinion. He sees it fit in here then so be it, his opinion and we just have to live with it. Regardless its still all search able information.
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Actually, it is not his opinion, it is xda rules. The only posts in the development boards, are posts discussing actual development. If the post is a question, it has no business being on the development board. Examples of acceptable dev topics:
Release of a new/updated rom
Release of a new/updated kernel
Release of a new/updated hardware specific patch
Release of a new/updated hardware specific app
*Technical * discussion of ongoing hardware /software development (rooting, bootloader, etc). Asking when root wil be available is not technical.
If your title for a post is in the form of a basic question, it does not belong in development, period.
I have to play devils advocate... but with the understanding that I'm doing just that and not really arguing...
I posed a similar question to Red in a PM. If I have a question asking how I can Retro fit Samsung propriatary shared libs into a new program I'm writing, or where I might find headers for those libs, where does that question go? Its certainly technical and development related... it also doesn't seem to fit in the q&a subforum (which doesn't seem to have any dev questions but is more general.)
Yet, its a question, and doesn't belong in the "development" subforum under a strict interpretation of the rules (which seems to say that the dev forum is only used to advertise mods, roms, etc)
Red suggested the q&a subforum. I disagree, but he is a moderator.
Not being sarcastic here, but perhaps we really do need new subforums for posting links to the result of development and allow the development subforums to go back to discussing that and other development. (Or vice versa) long ago when I first joined xda, discussing development was encouraged (and the primary purpose of xda-DEVELOPERS.)
Take Care
Gary
garyd9 said:
I have to play devils advocate... but with the understanding that I'm doing just that and not really arguing...
I posed a similar question to Red in a PM. If I have a question asking how I can Retro fit Samsung propriatary shared libs into a new program I'm writing, or where I might find headers for those libs, where does that question go? Its certainly technical and development related... it also doesn't seem to fit in the q&a subforum (which doesn't seem to have any dev questions but is more general.)
Yet, its a question, and doesn't belong in the "development" subforum under a strict interpretation of the rules (which seems to say that the dev forum is only used to advertise mods, roms, etc)
Red suggested the q&a subforum. I disagree, but he is a moderator.
Not being sarcastic here, but perhaps we really do need new subforums for posting links to the result of development and allow the development subforums to go back to discussing that and other development. (Or vice versa) long ago when I first joined xda, discussing development was encouraged (and the primary purpose of xda-DEVELOPERS.)
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Gary
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I understand how you feel and would love it myself but at this point and time with the influx of Soo many non tech minded people that don't know the diff Between a normal question and a development related question that all questions are pointed to the Q&A.
!Please read this before posting in the Rezound development section!
I know this has been stated a thousand times before, but the mass number of posts in in the development section that are not development is getting out of hand.
THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION IS FOR DEVELOPMENT ONLY. If you are posting something that others may use regarding development such as a new ROM, kernel, guide, mod, recovery, or tool, it will be posted there. If in doubt, just post in the general section. Our moderator will move the post if it should be in the development section. Please do not post questions/concerns in the Android Development section.
THE Q&A SECTION IS FOR YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING DEVELOPMENT. If you are going to post a question about development, it goes in the Q&A section. If you have a question about accessories or themes/apps, post your question there if you like. If you have a question regarding a particular part of development such as a current ROM or kernel, you can post in that particular thread to see if you can get some help. So if you are using Ziggy's kernel, you could ask a question in that thread. DO NOT POST A NEW THREAD FOR A QUESTION IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION.
THE GENERAL SECTION IS FOR EVERYTHING THAT DOES NOT FIT INTO THE OTHER CATEGORIES. If you have anything else that you would like to talk about that is not a question, accessory, theme/app, or method of development, you will want to post it in General. If you post a question in General (even though it should go in the new Q&A Section), you probably won't get yelled at. You will, though, if you post in the Development Section when you should not.
Please try to keep the development section clear and clean for the developers who will be giving us amazing ROMs and kernels to play with on our newly rooted/unlocked phones. This will make it much easier for us to find them in the future.
The funny thing is that this thread should actually go in development... And be stickied
I was going to post something similar, but it looks as though I don't need to
dmeadows013 said:
The funny thing is that this thread should actually go in development... And be stickied
I was going to post something similar, but it looks as though I don't need to
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Ha, I know it should. But that would be kind of hypocritical. If a mod wants to, they can move it. As long as people read it and don't post in the dev section, I'll be happy
I feel like xda sub forums are lacking in some extra boards. Questions and guides need to be added to all the sub forums.
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I feel like xda sub forums are lacking in some extra boards. Questions and guides need to be added to all the sub forums.
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Yes, some extra boards would be nice. This will have to do for now, though.
I quit posting in peoples threads and just report all of them. I am sick of telling people so I just click report every time. No one will learn man. This thread will be burried too. I PM'ed the MODS to get a possible warning thread before allowing to post in Development. Haven't heard anything back.
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I feel like xda sub forums are lacking in some extra boards. Questions and guides need to be added to all the sub forums.
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Do you know how much more there would be to moderate if they gave EVERY device extra subforums? I think they tend to do a pretty good job of adding a q&a(or whatever is needed) section when it becomes necessary due to a device becoming more popular. I'm betting the rezound will be getting one now that its unlocked and development has taken off.
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As is stated, do not post your questions in development forum. Before you start a new thread ask yourself this: "is what I'm posting a rom or a kernel?" or "is this a guide for development?"
If it is none of those, then post it in another forum.
Thanks..
Dude, finally! Thank you!
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Stuck
As is stated, do not post your questions in development forum. Before you start a new thread ask yourself this: "is what I'm posting a rom or a kernel?" or "is this a guide for development?"
If it is none of those, then post it in another forum.
Thanks..
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I feel like xda sub forums are lacking in some extra boards. Questions and guides need to be added to all the sub forums.
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Yes we need a Q/A thread like the Evo 3D has. Then people can ask questions about development and devs can share knowledge. It would be a really good thing to have. Sorta surprised that this forum lacks a Q/A sub forum.
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As is stated, do not post your questions in development forum. Before you start a new thread ask yourself this: "is what I'm posting a rom or a kernel?" or "is this a guide for development?"
If it is none of those, then post it in another forum.
Thanks..
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How about flashable mods like my status bar mod and lllboredlll power menu mod?
Its technically development although not a ROM or kernel but does not really fit in the themes and apps forum.
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Yes we need a Q/A thread like the Evo 3D has. Then people can ask questions about development and devs can share knowledge. It would be a really good thing to have. Sorta surprised that this forum lacks a Q/A sub forum.
How about flashable mods like my status bar mod and lllboredlll power menu mod?
Its technically development although not a ROM or kernel but does not really fit in the themes and apps forum.
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Main post edited to reflect mods and recoveries.
BUMP Because no one seems to read this and they should. It would help. We need to keep the dev section clear.
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BUMP Because no one seems to read this and they should. It would help. We need to keep the dev section clear.
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Go Lightning!
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Go Lightning!
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Bump for the new Q&A Section (woohoo!).
And hell yes! Another BOLTS fan!!
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bump............
Good thread. Thank you for this. The more people that come to the Rezound forum, the more chaotic the threads become. I'm new to Rezound, but I promise to post in the proper section. Always a good reminder!
By the way - GO RAYS!!
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Good thread. Thank you for this. The more people that come to the Rezound forum, the more chaotic the threads become. I'm new to Rezound, but I promise to post in the proper section. Always a good reminder!
By the way - GO RAYS!!
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welcome to the party, Breathe
* wrong thread, my bad *
There seems to be confusion about posting ROMs in General or Developers section. I just reported a post and fjasked that a "stock" ROM be moved from the Dev section to the General section because recently another Stock ROM was in fact moved with the reason that all stock ROMs belong in General. The response to my report was "this is a tough call I ll move it but it could stay in dev". So, that is a very non-committal answer from a mod. In addition, this post, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184817, is an example of previous guidance on the subject. It clearly states that the Dev section is "only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY". I would agree with this guidance. Can we stop differentiating between stock and no-stock ROMs and place ALL ROMs in the Dev section, as stated in the above guidance? Thank you for you work and time. XDA is a great place. I am not whining or complaining. I am merely asking for clarification of this issue so we can move on.
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um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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I been on here for some time across at least 6 phones, and I've never heard of such or seen this done.
It should be like how normal 90% of XDA works!
ROM/Kernels in Dev no matter if its stock or custom! That's it no argument! I had only three phone couple of tablets but whatever forum i went to. THis is the theory they followed! Very simple idk what's big deal about it! IDK why this ppl don't like that!
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um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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Your first sentence made me lol. You're right but I thought maybe since it was asking about the General then it could go in the General. Maybe it will be moved. Whatever.
Your second point is the crux of my question. If you read the guidance that I referenced it does not discriminate against stock ROMs. All ROMs are development, as are all kernels and other code. Code can be developed, whether it is stock code or other. Or at least that what I think.
I am anxious to see what the Moderators have to say. They have been very quiet on this issue.
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I been on here for some time across at least 6 phones, and I've never heard of such or seen this done.
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I agree with you, I've been here a while , thru a span of of six devices forums myself also(htc excalibur-tmo dash/htc tilt-kaiser/htc fuze-raphael/the first android OG "htc dream-Tmobile G1"/htc leo/hd2) and now here and all roms have always been in the rom development section, even stock roms that serve as base for custom roms are part of development .
I have been frequenting this site since my PPC6600 and all ROMs official or otherwise have been in a development section of some type. That goes back 5 + years (a very long time in tech years)
I don't know if that means anything to anyone, but us old guys don't like change =P.
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Yes that's what i m saying! We get used to it! Plus its the only one place to look for stock or custom! no need to poop all over the place! Common sense!
21productionz said:
I have been frequenting this site since my PPC6600 and all ROMs official or otherwise have been in a development section of some type. That goes back 5 + years (a very long time in tech years)
I don't know if that means anything to anyone, but us old guys don't like change =P.
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well guess i'll add my 2 cents too
ive been on XDA since Celluar One....., and all roms of any sort have always been in the development section that ive seen...
From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
This forum is for posting Development projects only - ROMs, Kernels, Mods (but not Themes, there's a separate forum for them), not stock ROMs (they belong in General). Anything else will be moved or locked. Do not ask questions here, do not post requests here, they belong in General.
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Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
I dunno why they changed the rule. Is it specific for AT&T Galaxy Note or in general? Because at least Captivate/i9000/i9100 section have 'stock ROM list' sticky on development section.
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From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
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Madness.....
Even a mod agrees with us! We need to change this and put back all the stock stuff in dev section!
wardfan220 said:
Stock or not a rom is developed at some point, I've always kept them in the dev section If someone is looking for a stock rom to load, they're going to check the dev area first not general, imo. Not saying you're wrong, just my thought.
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Well according to those rules questions belong in general. Obviously it needs to be updated.
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From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
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But is a "leaked" Rom to be considered stock? Phones don't ship with them....
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Leaked ROMs are still not something you made thus you aren't developing them, thus why would the go in development? I understand why people would want to put them there, but according to the rules, its not where they belong.
I really can't stand this! IF you really want to get this changed plz comment and let me know! Because i just don't like how this is going!
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I really can't stand this! IF you really want to get this changed plz comment and let me know! Because i just don't like how this is going!
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Lol, my vote would ba a mod (or eager poster) should compile one sticky of all stock and leaked roms into one sticky which can be posted at the top of the development section.
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ACTUALLY
ACTUALLY, this post doesn't belong in Q&A...
It belongs in the MAIN GENERAL section... I'm just saying...
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but yeah, the idea is stupid. they should change the rules...
Lol, who the hell cares? Just post it in one of the two and if a mod feels like moving it, let him. Personally I think any rom of any type should all go in one section so they're easy to find... but I'm not gonna cry about it if the mod wants it in general.