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If I get the $10 unlimited media net plan on my SG2, all I have to say is that I'm now using a dumb phone (like a RAZR) and that's it?
Will they not catch on eventually like they did with my iPhone? Or if they can't catch on yet, if the SGS2 gets released in the U.S, will AT&T then have the phone in the database, and be able to switch plans?
I'm worried about losing my $30 unlimited smart phone plan right now. Thanks
I have a Galaxy S I9000M and I've been fine for 8 months.
I would assume the same with Galaxy S II but I don't know for sure. Hopefully you can find someone to verify.
A little research would have gave you your answer but here you go.
Att will never see the unlocked(uk) version of the sgs2 or anyother unlocked(overseas) in there database. Ive been running tmobile and overseas phones for 4 years now. Never had an issue and never will. 99.99% people dont even know what this phone is. You will never see change to your att account with any unlocked phone.
Iphone, some nexus 1s and very small % of dell streaks would give you problems with data. Hit the thanks if it helped you out.
Oat23 said:
If I get the $10 unlimited media net plan on my SG2, all I have to say is that I'm now using a dumb phone (like a RAZR) and that's it?
Will they not catch on eventually like they did with my iPhone? Or if they can't catch on yet, if the SGS2 gets released in the U.S, will AT&T then have the phone in the database, and be able to switch plans?
I'm worried about losing my $30 unlimited smart phone plan right now. Thanks
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No one can get you a definite answer since no one knows what AT&T will do next for sure. But I've been using non-AT&T phone on their media net plan for yrs without issue. If they add GS II to their database, then I will just sell it and move to the next phone.
With the X10a from Rogers, people were fine on AT&T for months. But then AT&T got their own X10 and bumped everyone to the pricey plans.
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Yep, It can become a crap shoot when AT&T picks up a device. I made it years before they finally nabbed my on the N1, back to medianet now. While they have been claiming for years that they are going to crack down on unlocked phones they have have put very little effort into it and even then only with phones that they themselves picked up and the N1.
For the risk adverse note that they can add any device to their database as the numbers are in the public domain for all devices. This means they can sweep the network for any device. Not saying that they would, only that they could should they choose.
Realistically they have showed almost zero effort to find and adjust billing on unlocked phones and there is little to lose by switching to medianet since if you do end up getting caught all that happens is they automatically move you to smartphone. The only thing that would give me pause was having a grandfathered uncapped smartphone. Go to medianet and that is gone forever and even if it doesnt matter now it could loom large later. I do not believe I would risk losing that myself, not for this handset but because I might really wish I had it later.
I agree. On four of my lines I have non ATT phones with medianet but I have one with unlimited grandfathered and I want to keep it that way (I'm really hoping it carries over to LTE)
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intruda119 said:
A little research would have gave you your answer but here you go.
Att will never see the unlocked(uk) version of the sgs2 or anyother unlocked(overseas) in there database. Ive been running tmobile and overseas phones for 4 years now. Never had an issue and never will. 99.99% people dont even know what this phone is. You will never see change to your att account with any unlocked phone.
Iphone, some nexus 1s and very small % of dell streaks would give you problems with data. Hit the thanks if it helped you out.
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I was wondering if you or anyone else has gone over 3gb of data a month on the media net plan? I talked to a buddy that manages 2 different at&t stores and he told me they definitely know I am using a gs2 when I put the sim card in and if I use over 3gb of data they'll say something but they won't say anything if you stay under 3gb. Does this correlate with your experience?
Suppose you wanted to 'upgrade' a Vibrant to another T-mobile phone. What would you pick?
Considerations: A good GPS, prospect of Ice Cream, no rooting hassles, FM radio?
Galaxy S 4G, G2X, .....?
thats too easy hercules! hercules over sensation any day and dont flame me about samsung updates. It will be a beast of a phone with or without the updates.
My first option would be an international SGS2, but seems like its not comming to TMO any time soon, so i would pick the Hercules.
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My first option would be an international SGS2, but seems like its not comming to TMO any time soon, so i would pick the Hercules.
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Since it has an unlock already, what stops you from buying it off eBay?
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Since it has an unlock already, what stops you from buying it off eBay?
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He said he was using a TMO upgrade. He is not buying from ebay.
If tmobile dont get sgs2 im probably switching to sprint to get one
first off u cant use a international sgs2 on tmobil but u can on att, its something to do with the bands.
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first off u cant use a international sgs2 on tmobil but u can on att, its something to do with the bands.
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Actually it will work fine on t-mobile except you would only have edge data
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but edge is like working with dial up...so basically no! LOL
Hercules if you want a T-Mobile upgrade. I am probably going to buy the SGS2 internationally and go to ATT because the data plan is only $10 if you have an unlocked international phone.
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Hercules if you want a T-Mobile upgrade. I am probably going to buy the SGS2 internationally and go to ATT because the data plan is only $10 if you have an unlocked international phone.
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For unlimited data? I was upset to here that att is buying T-Mobile because they are expensive but to be honest my data plan is half of my bill with T-Mobile. If it is unlimited is there a gigabyte cap?
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Not long ago I'd have said the G2X since it is (close to) stock Android. However, in light of it being unavailable currently and until we know if GB will fix the defects it has, I'd have to belay that recommendation in favor of another.
Tentatively, the HTC Sensation, which launches the 15th. HTC generally doesn't bomb on their phone releases, so it should be a sweet device.
If neither one of these, then do not upgrade. They are the only phones improved enough over the vibrant to be worth upgrading to. The G2, MyTouch 4G, etc, are all pretty much "sideways" upgrades and not worth it.
Definatly the nexus s or hercules
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I'm wondering the same thing. My tweenage daughter's line is eligible for an upgrade on TMO in 4 days. She's held onto her feature phone responsibly, so I'm inclined to get her an Android, or steal her upgrade and give her my Vibrant. That would piss her off, but hey, I'm the phone geek and I pay the bill! Might piss off my wife too though... hmmm.
I can switch us to the Family unlimited talk & text plan with 2 GB of data for all 3 lines for $189 before my AAA discount, which should bring it to ~$160/mo. That's about the same as we're paying currently (or a bit less) for 1800 min, Fave 5, $25 Android data x 2, unlimited txt, family allowances. I could also go a bit cheaper, give her 200 min and 200 mb instead of unlimited min/2 GB and save $30/mo.
Has to be Android, preferably vanilla (or easily rooted with good ROMs, ideally CM7 support), definitely 4G. She might prefer a hard keyboard, I don't. She'd probably be thrilled with a MyTouch 4G, I'd prefer something nicer, dual core. Haven't been keeping up with hardware developments, what's out, what's coming... Thoughts?
ive searched all throughout--- and im finding conflicting results--
1.can i use a tmo branded vibrant on 9.99 tzones?
2. if not.. if i unlock it will it work?
last thing-- what r the all the apns i can try-- the epc one worked for a couple of hours on stock-- then i rooted and rommed it and it stopped working..
thanks again.
Since you are using a Vibrant (T-mobile), they (T-mobile) have the IMEI of your phone, which will register as a smartphone in their network. It will work for a couple of hours but eventually (usually less than a day) you will be blocked because the grandfathered t-zones plan were not meant for smartphones. Now if you use a captivate (AT&T), T-mobile does not have that models IMEI so you might get by with that (but only at 2g speeds).
So unlocking it wont make a difference?
I did that for years on a Palm Treo (at $2.99!) but upgraded to the "smartphone" package when I got my vibrant. TOTALLY WORTH IT. Sneaking data through T-zones was slow as molasses. If you can do it, pay for the data. A phone like this is meant to have a full data plan.
And I think T-Mobile can tell whatever phone you are using. They always knew I was on a Palm. Not the specific model, but a Treo. I was talking to a sales guy one time and he told me they know when people are using jailbroken iPhones. He said they always lied about it too. In that particular store they didn't care because you were paying T-Mobile instead of AT&T. But they could tell.
ok its settled it-- it cant b done--
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now what would yall suggest i do?
sell it -- use the money toward an upgrade (thinkin sensation)
0r trade it-- for a nexus one? -- keep usin it wit tzones?
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Dude even if you get a nexus one eventually they're gonna swtich your data. Just buy the data plan and use it as is. Getting around it wont get you far.
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the thing is if i update to the 20 dollar loyalty data i get locked in for another 2 years-- so i have an upgrade on the table that i wanna use before then.
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was actually running trigger when the net stopped workin
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anyone?
Get a Windows phone 7.5. They work great on the T-zones plan.
So I smashed my Rezound screen and am going to move on to a different phone on Verizon. I was originally holding out on upgrading so I wouldn't lose my unlimited data, and could save some dough up before buying @ full cost. Anywhoo... I'm on a family plan and two members are on capped or tiered data and I'm hoping I can just transfer my upgrade to one of them and keep my unlimited on my plan. Does anyone know if this will work?
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So I smashed my Rezound screen and am going to move on to a different phone on Verizon. I was originally holding out on upgrading so I wouldn't lose my unlimited data, and could save some dough up before buying @ full cost. Anywhoo... I'm on a family plan and two members are on capped or tiered data and I'm hoping I can just transfer my upgrade to one of them and keep my unlimited on my plan. Does anyone know if this will work?
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I'm fairly positive you can do that. What you'd do is upgrade their line, and then switch the phones back. I think that is fine to do as long as they all phones being switched are 4g phones.
Everyone in my family has iPhone 4s damn!
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Everyone in my family has iPhone 4s damn!
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Don't lose hope yet. I'm not completely positive, but I think it has something to do with going 3g to 4g and then back to 3g. Anyone wanna chime in who has done it?
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Don't lose hope yet. I'm not completely positive, but I think it has something to do with going 3g to 4g and then back to 3g. Anyone wanna chime in who has done it?
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Unfortunately, I believe the answer is "no." We have 4 phones on our account which was unlimited because my wife clings to an LG Touch that is a piece of crap which she hates, but she is also cheap (so who's complaining? but I digress). Meanwhile, my sons have iphones (which they paid for) and my daughter had an Incredible which was unusable, so we purchased an iPhone5 for her (don't ask). At the moment we updated her account, we had 2 choices, get charged $50 more/month for her phone, or migrate to a shared data plan (I chose 6g) which resulted in no real net change in the monthly bill.
To put it another way, once you upgrade ANY phone on the group account, it will be more expensive to retain unlimited data than to switch to a capped plan.
I don't think switching back and fourth from a 3g phone to a 4g phone, or vice versa, will change your plan. As long as you have a smart phone on your line with data, you'll be fine. Transferring upgrades isnt allowed though, I just tried transferring my upgrade to another line so I wouldn't lose my data, and they wouldn't let me. Verizon told me that in order to keep my unlimited, I would either have to buy a phone at full price (or a used one somewhere else); or wait till one of my other lines are eligible for an upgrade, use it, then transfer the phone over to my line.
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Pick up a used phone to hold you over, you can switch that on your line and keep unlimited..
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I don't think switching back and fourth from a 3g phone to a 4g phone, or vice versa, will change your plan. As long as you have a smart phone on your line with data, you'll be fine. Transferring upgrades isnt allowed though, I just tried transferring my upgrade to another line so I wouldn't lose my data, and they wouldn't let me. Verizon told me that in order to keep my unlimited, I would either have to buy a phone at full price (or a used one somewhere else); or wait till one of my other lines are eligible for an upgrade, use it, then transfer the phone over to my line.
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The upgrade is for another phone on my family plan... Hopefully I can switch that over and keep my unlimited. Verizon are just jerk faces.
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Hello everyone,
Just figured I'd introduce myself. My names Christian, and I work for Verizon. I've been reading on the forums for a while now but just recently registered. I currently use the DROID DNA rooted on the ViperDNA rom, with an unlimited data plan. I just picked up a seidio active case for it today, and can say it's the best I've seen so far. Other than that, I'm still relatively new to the rooting and rom scene, so it's been a learning experience. By the way, I'm sure I'm not the only vzw employee on here, but I'd be more than happy to help with any questions anyone has related to my job.
Welcome to the jungle. Try not to get eaten.
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Hello everyone,
Just figured I'd introduce myself. My names Christian, and I work for Verizon. I've been reading on the forums for a while now but just recently registered. I currently use the DROID DNA rooted on the ViperDNA rom, with an unlimited data plan. I just picked up a seidio active case for it today, and can say it's the best I've seen so far. Other than that, I'm still relatively new to the rooting and rom scene, so it's been a learning experience. By the way, I'm sure I'm not the only vzw employee on here, but I'd be more than happy to help with any questions anyone has related to my job.
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Can i have unlimited data xD this 2GB plan is small lol Welcome to the forums
Thanks for the welcomes so far. And as for unlimited, I wish it was still that simple. It would be a lot less work on my part finding loopholes to get an upgrade every now and then.
100+ views and only two people actually replied =/ I was joking man, I know its not that simple. But nonetheless, welcome. The forums seem to be really quiet though..
I noticed the same thing. Plenty of views, but everyone is quiet. Regardless, if anyone could use the into, I can't get new people unlimited but I can always assist in helping you keep your unlimited. Feel free to pm me about it.
Welcome I've been here for like 2 n a half years and still don't have my required amount of post for the dev section so I figured I'd say hi lol and by loopholes I have a unlimited and am due for an upgrade u know of ways I can use the upgrade?
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Yeah, that was my main reason for making a new to the forums thread. Needed my 10 posts haha. But the easiest way to keep unlimited without a risk of getting your rep fired goes as follows: Have an old basic phone on hand, and add a 10$ line for it to your account. Use the upgrade from the basic phone to get whichever phone you want and have it activated on the basic phones line. Switch the service back to the basic phone. Now you technically own the new device. From there, just have the new device put on your number with unlimited data.
Sure, it adds 10$ to your bill, but my unlimited is definitely worth 10$ more than a basic 30$ two gig plan. Just make sure all actions are done on the basic line. Any changes like that accidentally made to your unlimited line will result in being dropped to two gigs.
Ahh yea I've been using my other lines to get new phones n letting them get my old ones lol I'm not losing unlimited
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Yeah, that was my main reason for making a new to the forums thread. Needed my 10 posts haha. But the easiest way to keep unlimited without a risk of getting your rep fired goes as follows: Have an old basic phone on hand, and add a 10$ line for it to your account. Use the upgrade from the basic phone to get whichever phone you want and have it activated on the basic phones line. Switch the service back to the basic phone. Now you technically own the new device. From there, just have the new device put on your number with unlimited data.
Sure, it adds 10$ to your bill, but my unlimited is definitely worth 10$ more than a basic 30$ two gig plan. Just make sure all actions are done on the basic line. Any changes like that accidentally made to your unlimited line will result in being dropped to two gigs.
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yeah, we have 3 lines : my unlimited, wifes w/ 2gb tiered, and dummy flip phone acct
i just use the other 2 phones upgrades for phones for me, and when mine comes up i pass the upgrade to the other line to use it
i just swap my sim card in when the phone comes in the mail
They're starting to get stricter with the unlimited policies, so I'd start watching more carefully as a heads up. My line's upgrade is coming up soon so I can let you guys know more details, but I almost believe at this point if the upgrade is used on another line, I will still lose unlimited on mine.
On a side note, I'm a huge fan of the rom nit. Viper on my dna is amazing. I'll be posting in the rom thread when I finally have privileges haha.
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They're starting to get stricter with the unlimited policies, so I'd start watching more carefully as a heads up. My line's upgrade is coming up soon so I can let you guys know more details, but I almost believe at this point if the upgrade is used on another line, I will still lose unlimited on mine.
On a side note, I'm a huge fan of the rom nit. Viper on my dna is amazing. I'll be posting in the rom thread when I finally have privileges haha.
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thanks
yeah i expect them to get shady with family plans sooner or later
thankfully i can use my parents upgrades at least, we just give them our older smartphones periodicially
Thank you Justin I never thought about transfering the upgrade lol I believe a lil dontion is in order for that and for your work on ukb and viperdna when I get paid on friday
Ahh just seen your last post Hollywood n I hope itll still work but I'm liking this DNA a bit much so idk
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Yeah, that's what the warning was about. I've did the alternate upgrade method a few times, but the stricter rules may deem it pointless. That's why I was suggesting the extra basic line to have an upgrade without losing unlimited.
Previously, we could put a fake phone on it called a test device, but now they are banning the use of test devices so there needs to be an actual basic phone involved.
Welcome! I have a question if I may. My upgrade isn't until September. Once this upgrade is available, can I still steal upgrades from other lines on my plan and keep my unlimited? And vice versa I suppose. Can someone else steal my upgrade without risking my unlimited data? Any help is appreciated.
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Stealing the other upgrades on your plan is how you can keep your unlimited. But you have to have the phone activated on the other line when you first buy it. Only then can you pull it off, and use it on your line. As for them stealing your upgrade, it normally works but here lately they're getting stricter so I suggest waiting until I can get you a solid answer. I believe it may elimate your unlimited at this point if the upgrade on your phone number is used. As soon as I figure it out, I'll make sure to let you know.
I've just switched to Verizon from att and the LTE on Verizon is slower for some reason. I had the One X at AT&T with dual core! I also wish I had unlimited. I don't get what you're saying about how to get it!
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Sounds good! Both my parents have upgrades soon on their dumb phones so I hope to be getting one of those
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Obie911 said:
I've just switched to Verizon from att and the LTE on Verizon is slower for some reason. I had the One X at AT&T with dual core! I also wish I had unlimited. I don't get what you're saying about how to get it!
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1) lte speeds are going to be greatly influenced by where you live, and the amount of lte devices that are present in your area
remember, LTE is newer on ATT, and there are far less LTE devices being used on their network....many people still buy unlocked international phones w/ just hdspa+ and use them on att's network....whereas virtually all verizon phones now are sold with lte
for the most part verizon's lte coverage is much more expanded though (by me there is only lte for vzw, not the other carriers yet)
2) the unlimited data tricks we were discussing all pertain to pre existing verizon customers who have/had unlimited plans grandfathered in....theres no real way to get an unlimited plan now on verizon....though occasionally on ebay you ll see people selling a "transfer" of their unlimited line....but proceed w/ caution on that
I'm an indirect agent, not a corporate employee but, I can say right now alt upgrades are not causing people to loose unlimited... I just did one yesterday to help keep someone's unlimited data and I can confirm that it stayed.
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