really works or not ???
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really works or not ???
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Well it does what it says it does. Does that count as really working?
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u have it ??
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Yes? It does what it is supposed to do.
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yes it does. able to run the phone for 24 hours with 30% remaining.
Been using juice defender plus forever, it works really well for me
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I have been using JD ultimate beta for ages.
and it's one of those applications that I can't live without.
At the moment, I have the following settings and it made my life so much easier:
Data, Wifi (auto disable) - turns off wifi and data automatically
network mode (2g/3g) - switches to 2G when my screen is off (saves batteries)
Schedule - during the day, it turns on connectivity for 30seconds every 15 minutes for whatsapp, at night, it's off.
Location wifi - when I'm near my house, it will turn on wifi and leave it on
Brightness - custom auto brightness curve.
With all those tweaks, I'm getting around 2.6x battery life (reported by juicedefender)
LaMMi
network mode (2g/3g) - switches to 2G when screen is off
Hi,
I have it also but network mode (2g/3g) - that switches to 2G when screen is off does not seem to work. when I wake up my display it is still in 3G.
I know that it is a beta feature.
Does it work on yours?
lammi said:
I have been using JD ultimate beta for ages.
and it's one of those applications that I can't live without.
At the moment, I have the following settings and it made my life so much easier:
Data, Wifi (auto disable) - turns off wifi and data automatically
network mode (2g/3g) - switches to 2G when my screen is off (saves batteries)
Schedule - during the day, it turns on connectivity for 30seconds every 15 minutes for whatsapp, at night, it's off.
Location wifi - when I'm near my house, it will turn on wifi and leave it on
Brightness - custom auto brightness curve.
With all those tweaks, I'm getting around 2.6x battery life (reported by juicedefender)
LaMMi
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Nope. Don't run it, don't see a need to. I'm getting nearly 7 hours and sometimes more of on screen time and plenty of standby time with this phone. Juice Defender would just be another 'bloat' as far as I am concerned.
Working great for me, same as it always has
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I have a profile that will turn off wifi after one minute if
display off context is true (Wif-Off).
I also have another profile that turns on the wifi if the following
contexts are met (Wifi-On):
1. Location is near home
2. Day is Fri, Sat, Sun
3. Time is 7am - 11:30pm
I created a task (Wifi Turn On).
When I first run the Wifi-On profile I see it as active my
notification bar and wifi is turned on. Once my phone screen is turned off I
assume the Wifi-Off profile becomes active and turns off wifi.
However, when I turn on the phone again, wifi does not turn back on?
Why? Does it not turn back on because the context has not changed
thereby not causing the profile to go through the Wifi Turn On task? I tried adding a display on context to the Wifi-On profile hoping it would make the profile run the Wifi Turn On task but adding this context prevents the profile from ever becoming active for whatever reason.
Is there I can make these two profiles co-exist? I would like to keep wifi turned off whenever not is use to save battery.
Did you add an exit task to the Wifi Off profile? So that when the screen comes on, wifi is enabled...
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Did you add an exit task to the Wifi Off profile? So that when the screen comes on, wifi is enabled...
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Thank you for the reply. The problem with adding an exit task to Wifi Off profile is that I dont want wifi to turn on all the time, which is why I created the Wifi On profile. I only want wifi on during certain times and days and while I near my home. For example, I dont want wifi to turn on while I am at work.
How about Keeping your wifi on profile, and setting your wifi sleep policy under advanced wifi settings, to turn off when screen is off. Then just set up an exit task to turn wifi off when your "on" criteria is not met.
Honestly though I think it saves battery to just keep wifi on, even when screen turns off, so your phone is not constantly checking for cell signal.
Using the "cell near" context won't use much extra battery I don't think? I use it for my location based profiles.
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Using the "cell near" context won't use much extra battery I don't think? I use it for my location based profiles.
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Yes you are right about that. However I am referring to when he is actually connected to wifi, I've read it actually saves battery to just let it stay connected rather than turn off and on again depending on screen state.
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Yes you are right about that. However I am referring to when he is actually connected to wifi, I've read it actually saves battery to just let it stay connected rather than turn off and on again depending on screen state.
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Ahhh I see
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Yes you are right about that. However I am referring to when he is actually connected to wifi, I've read it actually saves battery to just let it stay connected rather than turn off and on again depending on screen state.
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Hmmm...gotta test to see if this is true.
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Hmmm...gotta test to see if this is true.
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http://m.androidcentral.com/android-101-save-battery-keeping-wifi-alive
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http://m.androidcentral.com/android-101-save-battery-keeping-wifi-alive
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Nice article..however I think in my case it makes more sense to turn off wifi when the screen turns off. Even at home, my phone spends much more time off than it does on. I also have my phone to not sync emails, data, etc only on demand. So I think for me, it save battery to turn off wifi when the screen turns off. However, that is still good information.
In that case the wifi sleep policy should work for what you want.
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In that case the wifi sleep policy should work for what you want.
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So whats the difference between turning off wifi and having wifi go to sleep?
EDIT: forget it...did a little google search...so wifi sleep and off are the same thing.
Guys, i've been bugged by this since the i9003 days.. While my sgsl was in froyo i can download while screen is off (using 3g) and after gb upgrade when i tuen off the screen download will stop.. After i bought sgs2 i thought it will change but the same thing happened.. I think it is a feature of Gb.. My question is, is there an app that lets you download over 3g even when the screen is off???
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Do you have JuiceDefender installed? It shuts off data when screen is off by default. My S2 downloads over 3g or wifi just fine. I do use JuiceDefender though. I set it to allow a program to stay connected (opera, adownloader, etc). But that program needs to be in the foreground when screen turns off.
If you're having the issue with wifi, make sure the sleep policy is set to never.
Also, make sure your background data is enabled just in case if you changed it.
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Do you have JuiceDefender installed? It shuts off data when screen is off by default. My S2 downloads over 3g or wifi just fine. I do use JuiceDefender though. I set it to allow a program to stay connected (opera, adownloader, etc). But that program needs to be in the foreground when screen turns off.
If you're having the issue with wifi, make sure the sleep policy is set to never.
Also, make sure your background data is enabled just in case if you changed it.
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I don't use juice defender.. My data doesn't get disconnected, it just stops downloading when the screen is off but resumes after turning the screen on..
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Your WiFi is set to turn off when screen is off you should be able to change this in WiFi settings as a side note it will cause more battery drain
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Your WiFi is set to turn off when screen is off you should be able to change this in WiFi settings as a side note it will cause more battery drain
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I want to use 3g in downloading.. Will that work?
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You don't have Tasker installed, do you?
Probably there is some 'battery saving' app installed that has a profile to turn of 3g when screen is off.
I have a same trouble. My connection stops while the screen goes off. My wifi doen't go to sleep and I already checked option "Never" in wifi sleep policy setting. I can't listen music online or even download file has a large size while screen turn off. If I turn on it again, downloading will be continue. I think this cause is JuiceDefender, however, after uninstall it nothing change
I don't want to be too critical but many Smart Actions I found here or other Razr forums tend to be very restrictive on your use.
Com'on, you bought an expensive fancy phone which uses the fastest 4G LTE network, you paid some premium on those joy. It is never a Verizon LTE Razr if you turn 4G off.
So my bottom line is :
1.I want to be able to surf web/watch youtube/check email on 4G or wifi network when I want to (as opposed to wait for 5 seconds because it was off when screen was off)
And
2. I want to have reasonable battery life.
After some testing, Smart Actions that work on my Razr is
1. At Home: when it detect my wifi, it will switch there.
2. In call: When there is incoming call, turn off Data Connection and Screen turn to 0% brightness. (This is CDMA network, so you can't surf and use data at the same time anyway. Or do you really do a lot of such things? If so, please ignore this)
This #2 will help if you have constant phone conversation of about 30 mins daily. You won't want to burn unnecessary juicy while you are only talking.
3. At work where no wifi is available (for security reasons), I turn it off. I sit in office most of the time of the day, so you won't want wifi keep scanning and eating juice. I used TImeFrame to identify this, not geo location because wifi will need to be turned off.
4. In the night, using the night saver sample, I turned off cell data and background sync.
5. Low battery saver: surprisingly, in this action I only turned it to 0% screen brightness. Why? Just imagine you are using it as GPS or some important task on the road, you dont want to lose the GPS/Data if the battery dropped below a threshhold?
6. Most helpful action:
No Action At Work.
If you are working in office most of the time, your cellphone is quietly sitting on your desk mainly. So if you specify
1. at work
2. movement detection found nothing moving
then disable background sync. it will save the juice and when you turn on the screen to check email, the 4G is always there.
The whole idea , is not to disable data connection whenever you turn off screen. Many times you will have background downloads and sometimes when you turn on the screen, the phone takes some time to restore the data connection. which makes you staring at your phone can wait for a while. quite unfortunate if you have an Iphone user sitting beside you immediately pull the data out, right? =)
Personal settings, hopefully it helps you. It will easily give you 12 hours of usage. and for my charge now: 10 hours later it is at 80%, of course it has 6 hours of night standby.
Let's discuss more TESTED smart actions here? =)
note: if your phone is in your pocket a lot during a working day, don't use motion detection and you know why...
You can use voice and data simultaneously when on 4g. Just fyi.
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Yup, it's definitely useful too.
Example: talking to friend on phone about hanging out, go to home screen open Google maps to check when the next bus comes, while still talking to friend
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"Movement Detection"
Is there such an option? Been looking for it, can't find it.
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"Movement Detection"
Is there such an option? Been looking for it, can't find it.
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It's motion
+ you need to update to get it
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Copy that, update req Glad moto is updating though, it could be a uber powerful app.
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Copy that, update req Glad moto is updating though, it could be a uber powerful app.
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Think if they make it more granular it will be great
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thank you for the tips.
I normally use wifi and thus mobile data is normally off. On my previous phone, I used extended controls which worked really well. I like having widget on the screen to turn the mobile data on or off, really not into screwing around with settings.
With the RAZR, with extended controls, the data off option seems to still allow the phone to "think" there is a mobile connection. I see the sync symbol appear and I think that this searching for a data connection is killing the battery life somehow.
I have now tried various widgets like APNDroid, extended controls, etc and they all seem to have the same effect. I think it is because they just rename the APN versus completely turning off the data.
Does anyone have any advice or suggestions on this issue? Thank you in advance.
Rob
I think you can set up smart actions to toggle it off for you whenever you connect to Wi-Fi. And then to toggle it back on when you leave the Wi-Fi area.
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Thanks for the suggestion Gary. Thought about smart actions but I leave mobile data off all the time until I need it.
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I was using the smart actions our Razrs and with the mobile data off it wasn't downloading Voicemails or pictures in text messages until the mobile data was turned back on. Not sure if its something with our setup or not, but I disabled the smart action until I investigate it further.
Yeah, the not downloading MMS thing is fairly common when you turn off data. I don't receive many MMS so it is not something that I really concerned myself about.
After searching for some time now, I found that juice defender has a mobile data widget which is doing what I need. I do not have juice defender enabled but installed it just for the widget. In the widget list it is called "Toggle: mobile data". Seems to get the job done.
I will look into using the other features of juice defender as I have heard many good things about it. I am guessing it is similar to smart actions but maybe not as user friendly.
Many thanks.
Juice Defender was awesome on my Samsung Epic. I haven't looked at all the smart actions yet so I don't know if most of the features of juice defender can be accomplished with that or not.
Wasn't sure about the MMS, just wanted to mention in case it was an issue.
Good luck!
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Yeah, the not downloading MMS thing is fairly common when you turn off data. I don't receive many MMS so it is not something that I really concerned myself about.
After searching for some time now, I found that juice defender has a mobile data widget which is doing what I need. I do not have juice defender enabled but installed it just for the widget. In the widget list it is called "Toggle: mobile data". Seems to get the job done.
I will look into using the other features of juice defender as I have heard many good things about it. I am guessing it is similar to smart actions but maybe not as user friendly.
Many thanks.
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Just had the best battery life ever from this phone. Only real changes were the juice defender widget and setting almost all apps to close using task manager. Normal day at work, about 10 hours, used to come home with about 40-50% battery, today it was at 90% after work.
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What's wrong with the stock Mobile Data Toggle widget?
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Which widget is that one? I see airplane, GPS, wifi, etc but nothing for data specifically. It would be awesome to use a stock widget and have the same results.
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This one. Is it not present in VZW firmware? Could certainly explain why it's grouped separately from the rest of the stock toggle widgets if so.
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Strange ... I do not see that widget in my list.
When you turn data off using that widget, does the data icon in your taskbar completely disappear or just go to an inactive state (icon grey all the time)?
With all the widgets I have tried so far, the data icon just goes inactive (icon grey all the time) but using the juice defender widget the data icon disappears completely from the taskbar.
When I had the data inactive (icon grey all the time), I would see the phone attempting to sync and this led me to believe that there is likely several things trying to find a connection. During that time, my battery life sucked hard, was worried that if my work day lasted too long that my phone would die (and I don't use my phone much during the day + wifi, BT, sound, etc all off). Since using the JD widget, I am rocking 80-90% remaining at the end of my work day so far.
Other items I have done to save battery are:
SetCPU profile - nothing special, just min CPU (300-300) for screen off, recharging or low battery
Task Manager - autoclose everything 2 min after screen off except the widgets I want running
Screen Brightness - about 30 or 40%
Data completely disappears when the switch is toggled. It's the same effect as disabling packet data from within the settings menu (normally under wireless & networks, RAZR has it under data manager).
I've seen that grey icon too. Suspect the blue/grey icon colours represent the heartbeat connection to Google, just like the green/grey icons in stock Gingerbread. So grey data icon = connected to network with no throughput, which an APN change could well accomplish.
I will investigate the possibility of extracting the widget, but assume it has been left out due to differences between CDMA/LTE & GSM/UMTS.
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I'm using JD and my data is blue (just the 3G /4G words) but no bars when I have my wifi on. I am using advanced mode with Location if that helps.
I have no complaints about battery drain either. Pretty constant use today and at about 35% after 11 hours.
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Ok so here is my situation.. when I am at home on wifi.. (the only place i consistently use wifi..) and my phone is in standby the process com.google.android.gsf.login is keeping my phone awake a lot... I am not complaining about battery life on this phone as a whole as it's really good.. but oddly enough for me, I get worse battery life (when it comes to standby) when on wifi... For example just yesterday I got like 19 hours and 2 hrs 15mins screen on time and about an hour of music streaming (screen off) all on 4g.. and when i looked at my battery stats the awake time and screen on times were essentially identical (other than the music streaming) but today I have been testing some at home with wifi on and off.. I have attached a picture of my battery graph.. when on wifi I have lots of wake locks that don't correspond with actual usage.. but when on mobile data those wake locks are gone..
I understand that it's an app that is doing the draining my only question is why is doing it on wifi only..
In the attached screenshot no settings were changed except for toggling wifi.. to see the difference..
My next idea is to try and get on wifi somewhere else and see if I have some weird anomaly with my wireless network at home...
anyone care to chime in?
Just an update the last 45 mins on 4g.. little wake time not associated with screen on... This has me perplexed..
Well.. I can't get the screenshot to attach but... Les than 2 mins of wake time in 40 mins on 4g at home on wifi I had like 7 mins in 25 mins on wifi..
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I know that the kernel for our processor has a patch to fix wakelock problems that are draining the battery, but the manufacturers have not pushed an update. Elkay is currently working on a kernel to resolve this problem, check the Original Development subforum. Battery life is significantly improved. I'm currently using DSB'S overclock kernel which has been troublesome for most people, but the battery life has been great and I'm fortunate to have almost no problems with it.
I am on elkay's kernel... Those screenshotss were while using his kernel.. according to him moat of those issues addressed are specific to mobile data standby time.. and my mobile data standby time is actually really good..
The issues only happen when I am on wifi.., and the only WiFi I have tested is my home network..
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I get the same issue as you. I actually just mentioned it in elkay's thread. I've been getting wakelocks like that on every kernel so I don't think it's just strictly his kernel that's causing problemos.
Possible Solutions ...
1) Your home wifi has some ports blocked or proxy in effect which is causing some Google Service to be unreachable when on wifi and hence causing the wakelock
2) One of the Google Account Services is set to update over wifi only and again its unreachable over your wifi, hence the wakelock
3) Disable Gtalk/G+ if you dont use them and reboot
4) Try a different wifi network, if you dont have the wakelock, then its your home wifi router config causing issues
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Possible Solutions ...
1) Your home wifi has some ports blocked or proxy in effect which is causing some Google Service to be unreachable when on wifi and hence causing the wakelock
2) One of the Google Account Services is set to update over wifi only and again its unreachable over your wifi, hence the wakelock
3) Disable Gtalk/G+ if you dont use them and reboot
4) Try a different wifi network, if you dont have the wakelock, then its your home wifi router config causing issues
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I am wondering if it's solution #1.. i don't have another wifi network to test on though.. i guess i could go hang out at starbucks or somewhere like that.. and see.. although with LTE (and unl. data) my I don't really "need" to be on wifi at home other than a couple apps that let me control stuff at home when on the same network.. (DirecTV, Onkyo, Shares Finder..)
I debloated the ROM I am on and Gtalk and G+ were removed since i don't use them..
I don't think I have any Google account services set to update over wifi only I have gone through the settings a couple times looking for stuff like that... that is why I am thinking it possibly has something to do with my network.. I will keep researching and if I find some solution I will update for the communities sake..
Very similar issue here, although it seems random. Just the hour day I had 13 hours on with 8 hours kept awake and 1 hour screen time.
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