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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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It's how samsung designed it and if it bugs you just root the phone and freeze the apps with titanium backup
borchgrevink said:
Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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this is just how android works. it loads up many apps on boot, and in the background even when you didnt not open them, so that it is faster the next time you need to use said apps. some people hate it, but the bottom line is there's nothing you can do about it except remove those apps from your phone. its just how android is built.
You have problems with RAM ? I use like 10% most of the time.
Free RAM is wasted resource. Stop thinking of things in terms of how Windows work with it crappy resource management system previous to Windows 7.
Well, if the RAM used for these apps could have been used to store apps that I really USE instead of apps I don't us, the useful apps could have been started quicker... (and apps I have used recently would not have been kicked out of memory so fast.
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again they need to make the system *really* clever by having it learn what apps you use the most and load the relevant processes rather than stuff which is unlikely to get used.
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snudel said:
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
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But I am not eager to root...
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borchgrevink said:
But I am not eager to root...
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Then you will have to live with it
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borchgrevink said:
Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
tommo123 said:
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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it take ages before the phone is usable.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
kreoXDA said:
Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
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Well Captain Obvious, I never run or use these apps and widgets... Hehe. That's why I asked originally...
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RogerPodacter said:
this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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my 2nd actually (desire last time round), rooted both, same annoyances in both - not HTC bloat, or samsung - the fact that i can't have control (key word here) over my phone. i mean if i wanted an OS without options i would have gone for an iphone!
i've tried a few apps that claim to stop apps booting up but they all fail.
as far as removing them, why? a simpler solution would be to stop the damn things running all the time. i don't use photoshop on my PC daily but i'm not going to install/uninstall the thing as i use it. it should just sit there waiting to be ran not doing anything at all until that moment.
silentbob59 said:
My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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still a long time when you're looking at the screen wishing it would hurry the hell up. seriously, count it. boot up your phone in front of someone with winmo 7 or an iphone then, after it turns on and you see the first glimpse of your homescreen say - it'll just take another 20 seconds or so. 1...., 2..... 3..... 4..... 5...... etc etc etc.
it's annoying and bad practise from an "instant on" standpoint. i want to turn it on, type in pin, see homescreen and hit a shortcut and have it load. not have to other stuff i wont use that day to load in the background first.
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anyhoo - this is something that annoys me - big time ...obviously
yeah its just something that you're gonna have to live with. its just the way android is designed for better or worse.
If you have root, get an app called Gemini app manager, its free and you can tweak the autorun settings for anything.
That not the OS caching in ram(good) but stuff you dont need running and using cpu etc(bad).
Just be carefull about what you tweak and backup etc.
Surely stock apps don't each that much battery right? my ram is usually 200MB-300MB / 1GB and I'm using a brand new SG2 stock firmware / unrooted and the only widgets i have are pictures/weather/google search.
Even though social hub, digital clock, etc still run in "Running applications" the list is pretty small...
It seems to freeze up a lot. I will select apps and they do nothing, same with downloads from the market. They just hang at showing them as downloading.
I use SPB Shell and sometimes when it does this it will also stick between pages rather than just flinging to the next it will actually just stop in between pages until you continue to scroll though.
When I select links to open, it does nothing until I actually open the browser. I have only had the phone for a few days and it worked fine, now its doing all these weird things.
Anyone got any suggestions or ideas, let me know otherwise I'm afraid I may be taking it back...
Something may be wrong with the phone. I haven't experienced none of that. Even out the box. Actually its been so fast for me that if I experience the littlest bit of lag it drives me nuts. Might be hard ware related.
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It seems to freeze up a lot. I will select apps and they do nothing, same with downloads from the market. They just hang at showing them as downloading.
I use SPB Shell and sometimes when it does this it will also stick between pages rather than just flinging to the next it will actually just stop in between pages until you continue to scroll though.
When I select links to open, it does nothing until I actually open the browser. I have only had the phone for a few days and it worked fine, now its doing all these weird things.
Anyone got any suggestions or ideas, let me know otherwise I'm afraid I may be taking it back...
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LOL dude you have the data guard enabled. There is a setting in their that holds downloads and other things in a queue until you are using WiFi in order to save battery. Just disable that and you'll be on your way And the SPB Mobile Shell problem is probably a problem with the app. Contact the developer and tell them about it. There aren't many nVidia Tegra 2 phones out there so it's not very likely they have done much testing on the architecture. Also, what kind of links are you talking about? Like a link you receive in a text message?
Hey buddy aren't you from Hero Land??
mrinehart93 said:
LOL dude you have the data guard enabled. There is a setting in their that holds downloads and other things in a queue until you are using WiFi in order to save battery. Just disable that and you'll be on your way And the SPB Mobile Shell problem is probably a problem with the app. Contact the developer and tell them about it. There aren't many nVidia Tegra 2 phones out there so it's not very likely they have done much testing on the architecture. Also, what kind of links are you talking about? Like a link you receive in a text message?
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I used to have the same problem with apps not responding after pressing. I was using adw launcher I reverted back to stock and everything is good now. Emailed the developer about the compatability and waiting for an answer but the photon is good otherwise
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Yeah it really sounds like you have Data Saver enabled which is located under Battery & data manager in the phone settings. If not you may want to exchange the phone as faulty. I have a lot of issues which my Photon: stuttering during music playback, random reboots (twice in 2 weeks so far), and feedback when using the audio out (buzzing / static). These seem to be common problems but the performance issues you are mentioning do not seem normal from what I have read in these forums.
iazv8 said:
I used to have the same problem with apps not responding after pressing. I was using adw launcher I reverted back to stock and everything is good now. Emailed the developer about the compatability and waiting for an answer but the photon is good otherwise
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Been using ADW launcher pro for 4 days now without any issues
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radrian92 said:
Hey buddy aren't you from Hero Land??
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You would be correct. Although i went from the Hero to an LG Optimus S, and now the Photon.
No problems like that with SPB Shell here. Check the data saver mode. You can also try changing the vm heap to 48 or 64. Mine is on 64 but never had an issue with the stock setting either.
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It does appear that it was SPB Shell which sucks because I was really liking it. I will send a message to the dev and see what happens. The funny thing is that is was working great the first few days that I was using it and then started acting up which was why I didn't thing it was SPB
CCallahan said:
No problems like that with SPB Shell here. Check the data saver mode. You can also try changing the vm heap to 48 or 64. Mine is on 64 but never had an issue with the stock setting either.
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How do you get it that high? I am using VM Heap Tool and the highest it will let me check is 48.
It's not data saver. Or it shouldn't be. It's an Android flaw.
I've had an Incredible, Thunderbolt and then Photon. Which means I've used a few Android phones over a couple of networks (more if you consider the 4G's as their own networks).
99% of the time my phones work fine. Every so often it will stall downloading an app, or an email will just sit on sending for a longggg time. Unless I am recreating the same conditions over three phones and two networks I think this just happens every once and a while.
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It seems to freeze up a lot. I will select apps and they do nothing, same with downloads from the market. They just hang at showing them as downloading.
I use SPB Shell and sometimes when it does this it will also stick between pages rather than just flinging to the next it will actually just stop in between pages until you continue to scroll though.
When I select links to open, it does nothing until I actually open the browser. I have only had the phone for a few days and it worked fine, now its doing all these weird things.
Anyone got any suggestions or ideas, let me know otherwise I'm afraid I may be taking it back...
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I'm glad you found the issue, this right here always tells me it was something you installed that caused the problem. When it worked fine out of the box and then....
Just watch what you install, install one app at a time and see how it flows for awhile after each app. Yes, it may take awhile to get all your apps on but you will know what apps are causing you issues! Like a previous poster said, there aren't many T2 phones, so just be careful what you install!
Glad you found the problem!
-DJ
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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How to resize the widgets.
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dakleenupman said:
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
Screen setting to never off. And honestly, why the hell do you want the screen always on while charging? I charge mine when I'm not using it.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
It already does by default
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
It already does by default
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
Stop doing stupid **** on your phone. Your battery wont last 20 hours if you use if heavily. Don't tell me your icrap did either. My wife says battery is ridiculous on her Skyrocket compared to her icrap 4
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
Depends on what email app you are using. Also, click the little icon in your notification dropdown. Brings you to the mail just received
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
dunno... doesn't bother me. It takes me less than 3 seconds to come to a decision on what the hell I want to do
How to resize the widgets
What launcher are you using? Touchwiz only lets you resize certain Samsung widgets.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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See the bold above
Sounds like you are very new to Android, so you have normal questions. First thing it to figure out what the settings for your phone do. Theres always the Samsung forums for asking about your specific device also. I'm not sorry if that all sounds harsh. It was meant to. icrappers turning Android annoy me. The escape from the walled garden is like a kid with ADHD in a candy/toy shop.
How to get the homescreens to rotate into horizontal.
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dakleenupman said:
How to get the homescreens to rotate into horizontal.
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Stop using Touchwiz
dakleenupman said:
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
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Don't do that. You will get screen burn-in in pretty short time.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
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It is already done for you by OS and apps. Just leave the GPS enabled.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
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Just leave wifi on. It uses slightly more battery but not enough to cause concerns.
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There's an amazing app called Tasker that will do a lot of your wish list. It's all about contexts - e.g. "on external power" "App {x} is in the foreground." It's the best ~$6 you'll ever spend, and never want to have another phone with out it. Almost all of it's awesome functions work without root, too.
htt p://tasker.dinglisch.net/ - dev/app site.
htt p://tasker.wikidot.com/ profile-index - some examples of Profiles
Enjoy! Sorry about the spaces in the links - n00b limit.
Thanks for the support. If I came from a walled garden, then why would I expect these functions that should be so easy to do. I have gone through the settings and came to the conclusion I needed help. Hence this post. If you can't help, I understand. Not everyone has that type of intelligence.
Uncle Irish said:
See the bold above
Sounds like you are very new to Android, so you have normal questions. First thing it to figure out what the settings for your phone do. Theres always the Samsung forums for asking about your specific device also. I'm not sorry if that all sounds harsh. It was meant to. icrappers turning Android annoy me. The escape from the walled garden is like a kid with ADHD in a candy/toy shop.
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Thanks for the info on the GPS and wifi. I guess I'm concerned so much about my battery.
foxbat121 said:
Don't do that. You will get screen burn-in in pretty short time.
It is already done for you by OS and apps. Just leave the GPS enabled.
Just leave wifi on. It uses slightly more battery but not enough to cause concerns.
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That sounds like something ill need to look into and spend sonera money on. Thank you very much for the help. That's why I like XDA. Most folds are here for the common good. MOST folks.... ;-)
dastars said:
There's an amazing app called Tasker that will do a lot of your wish list. It's all about contexts - e.g. "on external power" "App {x} is in the foreground." It's the best ~$6 you'll ever spend, and never want to have another phone with out it. Almost all of it's awesome functions work without root, too.
htt p://tasker.dinglisch.net/ - dev/app site.
htt p://tasker.wikidot.com/ profile-index - some examples of Profiles
Enjoy! Sorry about the spaces in the links - n00b limit.
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dakleenupman said:
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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u dont wanna keep the screen on all the time while on charge.these screen is not like lcd.oled screen have shorter life.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock
to save battery power from being wasted
@dakleenupman
Sorry about my assish post last night. I blame it in the alcohol. That's so not me normally. I'd been listening to a client ***** all day about why their 8 year old server keeps having problems and you were my outlet. Sry bout that ...
That's cool. I appreciate the apology. Nothing personal. I'm just trying to maximize my experience with this new device. Unlike other iphone users I'm willing to try new and better things.
Uncle Irish said:
@dakleenupman
Sorry about my assish post last night. I blame it in the alcohol. That's so not me normally. I'd been listening to a client ***** all day about why their 8 year old server keeps having problems and you were my outlet. Sry bout that ...
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That's cool. I appreciate the apology. Nothing personal. I'm just trying to maximize my experience with this new device. Unlike other iphone users I'm willing to try new and better things.
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cool
keep the questions rolling
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
>It can be done, there are apps to do it, depending on what you want your screen to display. For instance, on my old phone I used "Gentle Alarm" to display a digital clock image while in a hotel or something. However the screen on this phone is apparently prone to having images burn in...
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
>Android only turns it on when something is using it, so if you see that little icon on a lot of the time there may be something running in the background that you might not intend. This may also be the cause of your battery drain. Press and hold the home button (you will see your recently launched tasks) and hit task manager. You can then clear many unnecessary tasks that may be running in the background. If you don't see the obvious culprit there, you may have to dig deeper...
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
>This is a funny question if you think about it, because how could it detect a known wifi source without wifi on? I use Tasker, too. You can easily make a profile while connected to your wifi check for "state: wifi near (toggle wifi), turn wifi on. You can set it to run when you unlock your screen, for instance. You can also set it up to turn on your screen based on location, but remember that if you use GPS too much...
Tasker is fun to play with anyway.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
>You can try an app called Juice Defender, or similar. It has many battery saving features, including the ability to turn on wifi only when available. Its another fun app to play with, but most people here would agree that you should stay away from task killers.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
>I have never had multiple emails with the same app, but I always assumed that that is how it worked...
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
>No idea, but there are apps to disable the lockscreen if you want. I'm sure you can change the setting somehow, but probably at the root level. Search XDA...
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
>Easiest way to do stuff is just to keep searching the Market to see if somebody has made an app to do it (Android Market is your friend). Once you get more advanced you can try to do it yourself (then XDA is your friend). I have played with my wife's iPhone, and you will appreciate that the Market has apps that can do MUCH more cool stuff, and the vast majority are free because they were made by enthusiasts. The rest are usually reasonably priced. Once you root your phone there are many more options.
These phones quickly become a full time hobby. I hardly ever play games anymore, I just spend my free time tinkering...
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How to lock the volume keys so they don't get bumped?
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Juice defender is a placebo...
I bought it when I was on eclair... it made a difference there... though not much
However froyo up... android does a better job on its own...
Think about it... running a program that is on all the time to "save" battery?
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As to you wanting the lockscreen to stay on longer, there are several lockscreen replacements you could use. I'm not sure which ones have the option besides widgetlocker though. With widgetlocker, you can set the lockscreen timeout to various durations. I know it worked on my infuse, not sure about the note though.
The downside is that it costs a couple bucks and it will drain your battery a bit if I remember correctly because it keeps the device in a wakelock and does not allow deep sleep. Its not a huge battery drain, but it does some. However, if the timeout is more important than a tiny amount of battery drain, I suggest doing that.
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I have noticed an improvement using JD and that's actual not placebo. I get your point though on an app that runs to save battery. But whatever its doing, its working better than whatever I'm doing without it.
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Juice defender is a placebo...
I bought it when I was on eclair... it made a difference there... though not much
However froyo up... android does a better job on its own...
Think about it... running a program that is on all the time to "save" battery?
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Hey, thanks for the reply. I'm trying some of these things you suggested. The general consensus is USB that ill just bought need to find things which is fine as I'm all about adventure.
slaydog said:
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
>It can be done, there are apps to do it, depending on what you want your screen to display. For instance, on my old phone I used "Gentle Alarm" to display a digital clock image while in a hotel or something. However the screen on this phone is apparently prone to having images burn in...
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
>Android only turns it on when something is using it, so if you see that little icon on a lot of the time there may be something running in the background that you might not intend. This may also be the cause of your battery drain. Press and hold the home button (you will see your recently launched tasks) and hit task manager. You can then clear many unnecessary tasks that may be running in the background. If you don't see the obvious culprit there, you may have to dig deeper...
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
>This is a funny question if you think about it, because how could it detect a known wifi source without wifi on? I use Tasker, too. You can easily make a profile while connected to your wifi check for "state: wifi near (toggle wifi), turn wifi on. You can set it to run when you unlock your screen, for instance. You can also set it up to turn on your screen based on location, but remember that if you use GPS too much...
Tasker is fun to play with anyway.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
>You can try an app called Juice Defender, or similar. It has many battery saving features, including the ability to turn on wifi only when available. Its another fun app to play with, but most people here would agree that you should stay away from task killers.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
>I have never had multiple emails with the same app, but I always assumed that that is how it worked...
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
>No idea, but there are apps to disable the lockscreen if you want. I'm sure you can change the setting somehow, but probably at the root level. Search XDA...
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
>Easiest way to do stuff is just to keep searching the Market to see if somebody has made an app to do it (Android Market is your friend). Once you get more advanced you can try to do it yourself (then XDA is your friend). I have played with my wife's iPhone, and you will appreciate that the Market has apps that can do MUCH more cool stuff, and the vast majority are free because they were made by enthusiasts. The rest are usually reasonably priced. Once you root your phone there are many more options.
These phones quickly become a full time hobby. I hardly ever play games anymore, I just spend my free time tinkering...
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My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
jjc5891 said:
My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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Did you set System Tuner Pro back to default before uninstalling?
How would i do that? I just reinstalled it and i dont see any options like that...
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Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
khaytsus said:
Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
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he's talking about the built in one
The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
lowspeed said:
The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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No, it doesn't.
My problem is that the stock task manger kills my alarm clock & battery widget. Which I really need....
Ever since I have swtiched to Advanced Task Manger and I honestly love it over the stock one. I even set it to auto kill when I turn off the screen.
DRamer77 said:
he's talking about the built in one
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
khaytsus said:
I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
johnus said:
And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
FlukiestEmperor said:
So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
jjc5891 said:
So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
jjc5891 said:
So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Some people just think their logic is law and their needs are the same as everybody. I use task manager for several things. Many that the previous poster mentioned and others. I'm sorry open but I can offer no assistance as I've never wandered past the stock task manager. But I will follow this thread as I am interested in the functions you mentioned.
lowspeed said:
Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
jjc5891 said:
Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
lowspeed said:
How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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If you're not going to help, then don't bother posting. Not everyone likes to ignore problems
Seeing as this is a developers forum, how about we all work together and find an actual solution to the problem, instead of these mickey mouse suggestions?
Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
roperband said:
Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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I am wondering this as well this phone just closes down all kinds of apps. I know android closes apps when it needs the space but this phones is constantly closing my apps I want to keep open.
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I've noticed when i set it to 'at most 3 processes' the phone seems quicker. But I really don't understand it and I'm assuming it can cause app failures?
Should i just keep it at standard limit? Thanks!
Btw this is accessible under developer options.
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Ray_Banci said:
I've noticed when i set it to 'at most 3 processes' the phone seems quicker. But I really don't understand it and I'm assuming it can cause app failures?
Should i just keep it at standard limit? Thanks!
Btw this is accessible under developer options.
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It's exactly what it states ....
A control of running processes in the background , that directly pull from ram memory.
I set mine at 3, but get some FC's on occasion ,as the device is likely binding some needed processes and forces a restart ...
When I'm running an official build , I leave the setting at standard due too the large number of TW processes needed for a stock build.
Otherwise it's 3.
But honestly , I feel that it's greatest value might be the no processes setting to control background stuff like maps and Facebook etc. As these apps will restart by themselves over and over unless frozen or removed.
Play around with it a bit , as the risk is pretty low. It definitely speeds up the device if you can get around the FC issue ...g