NOTE: I'll get around to organizing this post as soon as I can.
If you remember the ICS Wager Thread from the EVO 3D board, you'll love the JB Wager Thread​
ENGADGET's liveblog from Google I/O 2012
Facts so far:
Official Change Log for JB
HTC's Confirmation for One Series (Still doesn't confirm EVO 4G LTE, but should because of it's specs)
Official release: Mid-July for Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, and Nexus S.
Here is a video of the 2-hour keynote. Google goes over everything in here, including Jelly Bean, Project Glass, the Nexus Tablet, and many other new innovations from Google this year.
Here's a demonstration of Project Butter. They compare 2 Google Nexus phones side by side, one running ICS and the other running JB, and they do it with a high speed camera.
I would link you but im mobile. This has been posted already.
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I can't wait for Apple to copy all these new features and call it theirs!
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I can't wait for Apple to copy all these new features and call it theirs!
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Yeah, with patents and all...
I made a wager thread for when we will get JB on the LTE. Just like the 3D ICS thread LOL
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I made a wager thread for when we will get JB on the LTE. Just like the 3D ICS thread LOL
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Released to Galaxy Nexus middle of next month... We'll get it, 2 months after the next EVO is released...
You know, I didn't think Apple had much to be scared of.. until now. Google is innovating circles around other companies, and is making Android one cohesive experience among multiple devices and breaking consumers' images of fragmentation. This spells huge trouble for Apple which has yet to release an arguably already outdated mobile device. Playing catch-up just got a LOT harder.
As for when we'll see it, who knows. I'd be happy with even a Christmas release but not holding my breath.
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You know, I didn't think Apple had much to be scared of.. until now. Google is innovating circles around other companies, and is making Android one cohesive experience among multiple devices and breaking consumers' images of fragmentation. This spells huge trouble for Apple which has yet to release an arguably already outdated mobile device. Playing catch-up just got a LOT harder.
As for when we'll see it, who knows. I'd be happy with even a Christmas release but not holding my breath.
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You do know about Apple's business practices right? Everything that's been announced at this presentation will now be patented by Apple in the next 72 hours, and then added to iOS. At which point, they'll begin to sue everyone.
Got the Netflix app update...The update was for jelly bean support!
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Released to Galaxy Nexus middle of next month... We'll get it, 2 months after the next EVO is released...
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Will that be the next mid range EVO (Design, Shift) or the next big dog EVO? I'm trying to make the cut off Jan 1st 2013.
I don't know if it's just me, but I had a choice to get either this phone or the galaxy nexus and I chose the EVO lte because from what I saw on the nexus forums and reviews, ICS was a little too powerful for the nexus, which causes ICS to not run as smooth as it could. On our phone, it is more powerful and can easily handle ICS. Am I off on this?
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or if it'll have to be a next-generation device that will run it.
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I really hope that not even a month and a half into the lifespan of our EVO LTE's that it's still considered a next-gen device!
4.1 seems to be more of an extension of 4.0, not a big jump like it was from 2.3 to 4.0. I would imagine all devices shipping with 4.0 would be able to update to 4.1 without much trouble.
If you remember, the Evo shipped with 2.1, and was updated twice. Once to 2.2, then again to 2.3. So our brand new devices should certainly be updated to at least 4.1, possibly 4.2 whenever the time comes.
What I really wish HTC would do is give us a choice when it comes time for a 4.1 update. A Sense version, or a stock Android version. How great would that be?
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I don't know if it's just me, but I had a choice to get either this phone or the galaxy nexus and I chose the EVO lte because from what I saw on the nexus forums and reviews, ICS was a little too powerful for the nexus, which causes ICS to not run as smooth as it could. On our phone, it is more powerful and can easily handle ICS. Am I off on this?
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Well, the Galaxy Nexus is about 6 months older than the EVO 4G LTE... Specs-wise, the EVO 4G LTE was built to be faster. There should be no reason why we don't get this update. I kid when I say it'll take forever, but in all reality, it's not a full-number version release. This might be something that we see fairly soon. It's like Android 2.2 > Android 2.3.
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I really hope that not even a month and a half into the lifespan of our EVO LTE's that it's still considered a next-gen device!
4.1 seems to be more of an extension of 4.0, not a big jump like it was from 2.3 to 4.0. I would imagine all devices shipping with 4.0 would be able to update to 4.1 without much trouble.
If you remember, the Evo shipped with 2.1, and was updated twice. Once to 2.2, then again to 2.3. So our brand new devices should certainly be updated to at least 4.1, possibly 4.2 whenever the time comes.
What I really wish HTC would do is give us a choice when it comes time for a 4.1 update. A Sense version, or a stock Android version. How great would that be?
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This will never happen. Sense is HTC's bread & butter. It's the majority factor on the decision of buying the device over other devices. While it's a nice thought to think about (if you're not a Sense fanatic like myself), it's not something that we'll likely see. I myself prefer Sense over stock Android. If I want a taste of what stock Android feels like, I'll probably just buy that Nexus Tablet they announced.
Oh yeah, definitely wishful thinking. In my perfect world that would be a reality though. I'm sure that stock 4.1 will make its way to our device at some point via Cyanogen.
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Oh yeah, definitely wishful thinking. In my perfect world that would be a reality though. I'm sure that stock 4.1 will make its way to our device at some point via Cyanogen.
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Yup. We just need Kernel source
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I personally like stock over sense but i just couldn't justify buying last years specs. Im really hoping for a solid android 4.1 stock rom in the next month.
the listing of upgrades for 4.1 aren't anything to get overly excited over, as others mentioned, it's not like going from 2.3 to 4 here, probably won't notice much difference. Just my guess
I don't know ,project butter looks smooth ,the notification stuff is great,the voice stuff .seems pretty substantial.
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Project Butter is the part I'm most excited about.
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Hello EVO 3d owners. With the recent possibility of samsung releasing a 1.4 ghz dual core variant, and the possibility of an ice cream sandwhich device at years end, are any of you considering returning this phone and waiting. Just looking for opinions.
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Keeping the 3d
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Hello EVO 3d owners. With the recent possibility of samsung releasing a 1.4 ghz dual core variant, and the possibility of an ice cream sandwhich device at years end, are any of you considering returning this phone and waiting. Just looking for opinions.
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Nope... if we continue to wait for the next big thing in technology, how can we ever enjoy any of it? The evolution of phones is moving very fast... as soon as you get your hands on this new 1.4 ghz phone they will be releasing notes on the even newer 2ghz phone of the future.... I am excited to get my hands on this device and will hold on to it until my next upgrade is available, gives me something to look forward to without having to focus on each new thing out there!
There's already quad core phones coming out by q4 2011.
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If the phone just came out buy it no need to wait especially if you have upgrades every year. If the phone has been out for more than 6 months then I'd look at what's out on the horizon.
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Well I don't have yearly upgrades, and would like to have a phone that could potentially last for 22 months. Will the 3d be able to do that?
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Theres only so much you can do with a phone. Sure you can have a quad core 2.0ghz phone, but wtf do you need it for? Plus the battery life is already terrible. Could you imagine?
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No Samsung sucks. I will just buy whatever sweet new device comes out. They aren't that expensive no need to wait.
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Hello EVO 3d owners. With the recent possibility of samsung releasing a 1.4 ghz dual core variant, and the possibility of an ice cream sandwhich device at years end, are any of you considering returning this phone and waiting. Just looking for opinions.
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Blue
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this is the most stupid tread ive seen so far
why dont you stay quiet and dont post anything like this???
I can agree that if we just keep waiting for the "NEXT BIG THING," we'll never really get a chance to enjoy what's now. Think of it this way, you have a phone that's less than a week old, so you're doing pretty good. Will this phone last for a while? Sure, I think it will. But this is coming from me, who just upgraded from a HERO. So, I think I can hold onto this phone until my next upgrade (1 year from June 24th.)
omg can u imagine how does the next Iphone will look??????????
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this tread is a epic fail
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omg can u imagine how does the next Iphone will look??????????
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this tread is a epic fail
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LOL, it'll look exactly the same as it has over the last 4 or 5 years now.
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this is the most stupid tread ive seen so far
why dont you stay quiet and dont post anything like this???
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I can say quite positively that you added nothing to this post, and only took away from it. Maybe it was not "smart" or "high quality", but you just decreased the intelligent level of the conversation. Thank you for that.
I agree with everyone. I am not a tech junkie, I don't have to have the best of the best. I am a graduate student in neurology. I also have a lot a bit of experience in computer programming. I actually used my Org Evo to interface with research equipment and analysis data. Well the software we use continues to advance and demands better phones. So I am just trying to future proof myself in that area. I am trying to make sure the phone's hardware is all that it is suppose to be. If my original evo was up to par, I would still be using that.
I believe that it is. I honestly believe, based off an in depth talk with a gentleman whose entire career is based on developing microchips like the one we see in our phones. He is adamant that the newest generation of qualcomm (spelling) processors are the best he has seen in a phone this far.
Anyway, that combined with the reputation HTC has, the 3vo seems like a great bet.
lol, this is the age old question for tech Buy something that just came out, or wait for something better coming out later
If you go with the attitude to wait, then why not wait forever and get nothing I mean lets say you hold off on the EVO-3D, and wait for the slightly better Galaxy S2, but don't get that the Nexus-4.0 will be even better than the Galaxy S2, but wait, the Nexus-4.0 will be trumped by the best yet Galaxy S3 due next spring per Samsung, but wait the Galaxy S3 will be outdone by the EVO-Three.
What if while waiting for the next best thing, you get killed in a car wreck tomorrow, thus never enjoying the cool tech we have right here, right now.
Oh yeah, the words "Future Proof" lol uh no such thing...
To the OP -
What people have said in this thread makes perfect sense. If you wait for THOSE phones there will be even better ones around the corner in the future too. So you would simply be right back in the same situation.
I can see the 3vo being the 2nd legit 22 month phone. the og Evo being the 1st.
Like others have said you can't keep waiting or you'll never get. As for a 1.4 dual. Meh what's it really going to do that your 1.2's can't do? well outside of increase your penis size in a pissing match. Heck thats about all the quad cores are going to do too.
phones are advancing too fast. there is hardly anything out there that will take full advantage of the dual core phones. i think getting the 3vo would be fine because it will take a bit before developers catch up with it and by then you'll be due for an upgrade.
will be returning evo 3D. Its no diff from EVO 4G besides the 3D and the dual core. waiting for samsung gs2 or Motorola Photon.
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will be returning evo 3D. Its no diff from EVO 4G besides the 3D and the dual core. waiting for samsung gs2 or Motorola Photon.
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So outside of the crappy Skin Moto and Samy put over android what different are you expecting?
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will be returning evo 3D. Its no diff from EVO 4G besides the 3D and the dual core. waiting for samsung gs2 or Motorola Photon.
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Yeah the QHD screen, the better form factor on the body of the phone, double the ram, 4 times the internal storage (this will matter a lot more when we have root and custom roms), the actual camera button, the newer build, second microphone for noise cancelling. You're right the Evo 4G had all of those.
only thing thats making me more and more want to return the phone is..
its not that I don't believe HTC will unlock the phone...
its how many good Dev's are we losing in the meantime?
Will we see an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM for this phone? With all the magical and sexy hardware optimizations and GPU acceleration? I'm really hyped for the Prime, especially since the iPhone 4S was such a disappointment, but there's one thing I can't leave, and that's HTC Sense. On top of that, Google seems to suddenly like waiting a year and a day to release the source code for Android, so the Cyanogenmod team might not be working on it if there's not source I dammit I want ICS
well google claim they didnt release the source code for honeycomb cause its only for tablets and supposedly ICS source code will be out, time will tell
I don't think we would be recieving a ice cream sandwhich rom , by the time that's released they'll make the Nexus 9 & the Amaze 9 haha , i don't think we'd get it the close of ICS we'd get is a blue framework & launcher .
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Will we see an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM for this phone? With all the magical and sexy hardware optimizations and GPU acceleration? I'm really hyped for the Prime, especially since the iPhone 4S was such a disappointment, but there's one thing I can't leave, and that's HTC Sense. On top of that, Google seems to suddenly like waiting a year and a day to release the source code for Android, so the Cyanogenmod team might not be working on it if there's not source I dammit I want ICS
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well google claim they didnt release the source code for honeycomb cause its only for tablets and supposedly ICS source code will be out, time will tell
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Google actually claimed Honeycomb's source code "wasn't ready" which was kinda evident in Honeycomb itself. Then they told us Honeycomb sources will come after ICS release. If that's true, then ICS sources won't come until Jellybean, and by then we'll be hyped over Jellybean and still be outdated after upgrading to ICS
#NeverAgain - I'll wait until the Nexus Double Prime, by Googlrola.
Going back to HTC, so Amaze, here I come!
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The closest we will get to a port or anything ICS is the new upcoming real NexusPrime ICS picture leaked launcher w/ the ICS app drawer & more .
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The closest we will get to a port or anything ICS is the new upcoming real NexusPrime ICS picture leaked launcher w/ the ICS app drawer & more .
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Damn I'm really liking this phone but ICS is right around the corner
Once the Nexus Prime come's out i'm selling my amaze to buy it , so either way it's a win win .
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Damn I'm really liking this phone but ICS is right around the corner
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Personally I would skip this phone, I took a closer look at the specs and it's a slightly buffed Sensation w/ MT4GS's cam. and 256 more RAM. The Prime may be a better choice, but it's taking to long to be released.
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I just wish they had made the jump to 8mp camera from the specs ive seen it was 5mp and I hope they dont leave out 1080p recording the nexus s couldnt even do 720p they took it out.
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TBH...
I'd say Nexus prime.
Nexus Prime is rumored to have the exy proc with the same GPU as the Ipad2 and Ip4s. ALONG with a 720p screen.
The Amaze has an inferior GPU. Inferior CPU. Inferior Screen.
However... I have no doubt it will look ALOT sexier.
Man... I reeeeealllly want it LOL!
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Once the Nexus Prime come's out i'm selling my amaze to buy it , so either way it's a win win .
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Didn't you just get the Amaze, like 5 minutes ago? Why switch so quick?
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TBH...
I'd say Nexus prime.
Nexus Prime is rumored to have the exy proc with the same GPU as the Ipad2 and Ip4s. ALONG with a 720p screen.
The Amaze has an inferior GPU. Inferior CPU. Inferior Screen.
However... I have no doubt it will look ALOT sexier.
Man... I reeeeealllly want it LOL!
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Doesn't that mean no 4G speeds for T-Mobile? I want my 42Mbps speeds
the beauty fo htc products is that ports seem to come very often from newer htc devices...i still have my old hd2 and its amazing..upgraded to sgs4g when it came out, phone is cool, but no ports really and just recently was cwm brought to it..stilll all available ports are just customized samsung unofficial releases. nexus prime, eh if you r with tmobile, and know that 90% chance it isn't coming, then just get the a maze. the amaze will prolly be the best phone tmobile will release for next 6 months. nothing on leaked sheets shows better upcoming phones. i'm about getting phones that will last me a long time as far as technology not being obsolete in a week.. thats why i didn't get sensation. so if the specs on this phone disappoint you, you have problems. get the amaze.
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Samsung Galaxy S2
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Samsung Galaxy S3
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As I recall Android 2.3 isn't built to fully utilize a dual core processor. Was thinking about this the other day at work. Is it possible that this phone we are as all so impressed with while running stock really a sleeping giant? ICS is supposed to have hardware acceleration, no? The next six months are going to interesting in our development section, that's for sure.
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while the Rezound is the best phone on the market right now, it is in fact a "sleeping giant" as we wait for either an ICS update or S-OFF.
In its current state, its not too different then an overclocked Thunderbolt(performance-wise).... but if course, because of the OS limitations.
if you are set on getting a new phone right now though, defenitely get it. if you can wait a bit, then hold off until the quads come out.
Oh I got mine the week it came out. Amazon got my two cents!! (quite literally).
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Yeah im waiting for s-off and ics. I have no problem with sense but id like a senseless ics. Or maybe a sense ics without the damn bloat. We'll see.
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while the Rezound is the best phone on the market right now, it is in fact a "sleeping giant" as we wait for either an ICS update or S-OFF.
In its current state, its not too different then an overclocked Thunderbolt(performance-wise).... but if course, because of the OS limitations.
if you are set on getting a new phone right now though, defenitely get it. if you can wait a bit, then hold off until the quads come out.
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when can we expect quad cores to come out?
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Supposedly an announcement from HTC at MWC which begins in February. I would be shocked if we actually had units for sale before the Summer in the US.
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Oh I got mine the week it came out. Amazon got my two cents!! (quite literally).
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Yeah, they got my one cent! LOL!
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I really wonder how all the current dual core phones will compare once running ICS.
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It wouldn't surprise me if achieving S-Off is easier when ICS pops up. Think of all the new holes that will be exploitable! To be honest, I think waiting for ICS is better than waiting for S-Off right now. If HTC keeps to their word it shouldn't be too long before we see it. Not only that, if we achieve S-Off right now people are not going to want to upgrade to ICS until it is rooted again, lol.
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It wouldn't surprise me if achieving S-Off is easier when ICS pops up. Think of all the new holes that will be exploitable! To be honest, I think waiting for ICS is better than waiting for S-Off right now. If HTC keeps to their word it shouldn't be too long before we see it. Not only that, if we achieve S-Off right now people are not going to want to upgrade to ICS until it is rooted again, lol.
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Once you have S-Off it is EXTREMELY easy to root an update from HTC. Literally you just run the zip through a rom kitchen that stuff can be added. When we got the 2.2 Froyo RUU as our updated for the Desire I dumped and rooted it for myself very quickly.
2.2 to 2.3 isn't as big of a leap as 2.3 to 4.x
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Unless someone actually knows about the kind of impacts this will have on rooting future builds if S-OFF were achieved prior, I'd say its too early to tell either way. But I'm an htc noob, what do I know?
Either way, Not working on S-off would be silly I mean the people working on it are at the very least attempting something. You can learn a lot by getting really analytical and say comparing other devices and the methods used on them for similarities, for example. This knowledge will not only further their understanding if the task at hand, but it may also come in handy for future exploits (think ICS and beyond).
That ....and......well...we want our got dern S-OFF
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As I recall Android 2.3 isn't built to fully utilize a dual core processor. Was thinking about this the other day at work. Is it possible that this phone we are as all so impressed with while running stock really a sleeping giant? ICS is supposed to have hardware acceleration, no? The next six months are going to interesting in our development section, that's for sure.
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You are correct GB doesn't fully utilize dual core phones. ICS does enable true hardware acceleration, GPU will start jumping in for transitions, animations etc. Atm I think GPU plays very little in those processes atm. Although I did see alot of animation/transition lag on the Gnex, but that can be due to the fact that it has a 540 in it (2007 GPU DERP). This phone will be even better even on stock sense bloated ICS.
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while the Rezound is the best phone on the market right now, it is in fact a "sleeping giant" as we wait for either an ICS update or S-OFF.
In its current state, its not too different then an overclocked Thunderbolt(performance-wise).... but if course, because of the OS limitations.
if you are set on getting a new phone right now though, defenitely get it. if you can wait a bit, then hold off until the quads come out.
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You do notice the speed differences easily as well as the radio quality. I get like 40-50 mbps DL 8-10 mbps UL in my area, with the tbolt i was getting 20ish tops and 5-6. Transitions are not as smooth on the Tbolt compared to the Rezound. But yes everyday usage they are quite comparable since the OS/ most apps don't take advantage of the DC/GPU acceleration.
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Quads are out on tablets already (Asus transformer prime). I would imagine Q3 Q4 2012, maybe Q1 Q2 2013 for phones. But TBH if all Android is going to do is bump hardware and hope it fixes the problems that in my opinion is pretty sad. There is no reason for our phones to have any lag issues or performance issue w/ the hardware we have. Flash performance is terrible, UI lag on almost every android phone I've seen when notifications play, and you're scrolling around. You can throw extra cores, more RAM, stronger GPU in but I highly doubt that's going to help. Issue is they need to properly code the damn OS and it's sad that it's taken them this long, and tbh not even sure if ICS properly addresses the issue. After watching the Gnex review on phonedog it was quite disappointing. I hope Google tries to step up polish the OS and make it function properly. They also need to step up and have some form of control to end this fragmentation. Like Netflix HD would be amazing on this device, yet it's only certified for OMAP 4+ devices :/. Hope ICS really does unify them all.
How is it sad it has taken so long for Google to produce 3 operating systems in the same year? You are making some VERY bold statements dude, and if you are so pissed off with Android go get yourself an iPhone. Google got into the game late, and is now dominating, just because they are trying to do it correctly doesn't mean they have to do it fast. You know what happens when they rush it? People like you complain their phones suck because x, y, and z problems and they should have never released the update. See what happened when Honeycomb came out? A ****load of problems because it was a halfway point. Not to mention Google tries to make their OS compatible on the most devices possible, not just the top of the line, they cater to everyone.
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How is it sad it has taken so long for Google to produce 3 operating systems in the same year? You are making some VERY bold statements dude, and if you are so pissed off with Android go get yourself an iPhone. Google got into the game late, and is now dominating, just because they are trying to do it correctly doesn't mean they have to do it fast. You know what happens when they rush it? People like you complain their phones suck because x, y, and z problems and they should have never released the update. See what happened when Honeycomb came out? A ****load of problems because it was a halfway point. Not to mention Google tries to make their OS compatible on the most devices possible, not just the top of the line, they cater to everyone.
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Thing is they do rush it. I'm just stating it's taken them longer then necessary due to the fragmentation of the market. Yeah they might of implemented the OS' but what good will it do us if it takes the manufacturer/carrier ages to push them out? I'm not going with iOS because frankly it bores me, I'm not PISSED with Android, just had higher expectations for it. I'm not complaining about about my phone just giving some feedback. Last time I checked this is what the forums were for. Hopefully they figure it out and performance issues are corrected. But from looking at the reviews of the Gnex even ON the latest ICS platform There's still the lag and slow down that Android has been plagued by. The UI lag could be in the part of Google using the power 540 soc which is pretty antiquated at this point. Obviously I wouldn't of bought another Android phone if I wasn't hopeful they could correct the issues .
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How is it sad it has taken so long for Google to produce 3 operating systems in the same year? You are making some VERY bold statements dude, and if you are so pissed off with Android go get yourself an iPhone. Google got into the game late, and is now dominating, just because they are trying to do it correctly doesn't mean they have to do it fast. You know what happens when they rush it? People like you complain their phones suck because x, y, and z problems and they should have never released the update. See what happened when Honeycomb came out? A ****load of problems because it was a halfway point. Not to mention Google tries to make their OS compatible on the most devices possible, not just the top of the line, they cater to everyone.
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settle down dude. Bottom line is that while ICS looks nice, it doesn't look like it runs any better than GB on the nexus reviews I've seen. Still UI lag, still stutters at times.
Bottom line is that this is the only OS now, that can't seem to get the graphics smooth. This is what, 4 years now for android??? WP7 got that right on the first try and added the big features as the second and third iterations. Just like everything else google does, ICS is a beta product, plain and simple.
And yes, I would go back to wp7, but until it has lte, I'm here on android. And to be honest, I love the rezound, very little stutter, very little lag, and I haven't had any reboots or had to do any resets just because. But with dual core and 1gb of RAM, these things shouldn't happen.
I check my memory usage a few times a day and I never have more than 150mb of free memory. I find many apps that I have not opened that are cacheing memory in the background. This shouldn't happen. I really hope google goes to ios and wp7 type multitasking that uses save states for apps instead of running in the background.
Damn the code for Android 4.1 has already been released. Story is on the XDA portal.
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Yea, I saw people fighting about it on Twitter yesterday.
I also saw Evil is pissed off at your for your Avatar, lol.
Having just unlocked and rooted finally I thought I'd resurrect my thread. I do notice definite difference in the system as a whole and am loving what I'm seeing so far. I'm usually not an I told you so type but I think we were dead on here with our guesses that we hadn't seen anything yet. 2.3 on these was great, sure, but this phone was built with ICS in mind!!
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I'm a little angry at HTC for promising Q1 ics but if they are working hard for it to be smooth and majestic then so be it; we need that kernel source most of all.
If they release this in the Nexus variant I found my next device. First phone besides the S4 to catch my attention all year. Hoping Motorola makes an announcement soon so I can really weigh my options.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/03/htc-one-on-verizon-is-official-coming-later-this-summer/
Woooo! Waiting on full details on this and Moto X phone for my decision!
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If they release this in the Nexus variant I found my next device. First phone besides the S4 to catch my attention all year. Hoping Motorola makes an announcement soon so I can really weigh my options.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/03/htc-one-on-verizon-is-official-coming-later-this-summer/
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Glad to hear it's coming to Verizon, why would they release it as a Nexus variant though?
I'm getting this the moment it comes out.
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I'm getting this the moment it comes out.
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Oh yea!! Awesome!! I have $400 saved up on amazon specifically for this phone ha
That thing doesn't have an SD card right?
So my decision kinda goes down to front facing speakers, or an SD card.
Let the Exodus begin! I am so stoked about this. I have an upgrade available in August, but I will pay full price and save my unlimited data. Wahoo!
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Because they are releasing on on AT&T and the S4 will have one... Also, some folks love that...
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This upsets me. I just ordered an Samsung galaxy 4. But then again my last 2 HTC phones was the "best of the best and will be kept up with updates." And that never happened either :thumbdown:
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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This might be enough to sway me back to htc...hmm balls in your court Motorola just plz have a 3300mah battery!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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Nice, if they do a Verizon version, should be plenty of AOSP to pick from I'd hope
So I guess this won't be a true Google nexus phone but just a phone to run aosp? It is nice they are looking in to the option of giving owners a choice of os. Might be the first steps in allowing us to flash what we want in the future. Might get this phone when released.
My question is why is it Google owns moto but they still haven't released a nexus phone?
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Glad to hear it's coming to Verizon, why would they release it as a Nexus variant though?
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Here is how I am looking at the Nexus program. I think that people are starting to buy Nexus phones like the Iphone. A single experience across a single platform. Jelly Bean finally made Android beautiful to look at and use and now people are catching on. Samsung was part of the Nexus experience for a long time, and they made a decent market out of it. With this in mind people are seeing the Nexus verisons advertised and the skins OEM use are cartoony, bulky, and don't carry 1 or 2 of Androids core features well after release. With the Nexus program more OEM's are seeing profitability probability from having these stock phones. It also will help them develop a more precise skin in using stock they will see what people like and build features off it while maintaining stock characteristics. Skins can be good Sense started off on the right foot, but has gotten farther and farther away from adding any new functions (Cough) Iphone (Cough) it used to be the best clock, weather, and calendar but as of JB stock is just as good and with Google unifying to the Card UI its feels so consistent across the phone, and skins just subtract from that when they aren't offering anything else that isn't better than or as good as stock.
Now for us, this is great news for the dev community if it means that the Nexus Updates are indeed coming from google. As we have come to terms with HTC just doesn't release source timely and with that in mind slows us down considerably. Now if Google is handling the updates they don't need to listen to HTC they can just post the source for the Nexus variant and we can build off that (not me I mean you) . This in theory should make getting AOSP roms built much faster and much stabler overall. because Even though our devs are great and our community is great JB will never exactly be 100% there. With this though we should see quicker builds, more stable builds, and increased longevity of our device.
I am excited, this looks good for us, and HTC. I know many of us came from the DINC and we all basically had the same idea about the Rez. I love this phone, but during the time I have had it HTC just seemed to be getting worse(along with verizon) but as of late I have been impressed. They seem to be really trying and the one is a combo of great design and great hardware as they always do. So I think this may be enough to keep my HTC loyalty from straying to a galaxy far far away.
Google never had to listen to the phone makers. The problem they had was with Verizon when they told Google CDMA was closed sourced and all updates had to go through them first. Anyone who owns a Verizon galaxy nexus knows how slow updates came when compared to their gsm counterpart. Any Google phone has nothing to do with the makers of the phone when it comes to the software.
Don't even try to compare the nexus line with the iPhone. Most people buys a nexus phone because you can root and customize the phone to their liking. Also to have updates to come quickly. People buys I phones for the name and that's it. Don't compare apples to oranges.
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Only so many users are looking to root the average end user is not looking for hacking capabilities. They are looking for an experience that is taken care of for them. Thats what the Iphone used to be, and that's what Android with Jelly Bean has become. People are moving to android for more reasons than hacking. They may be two different OS's, and two different Manufacturers but Google's nexus line is becoming mainstream now. There is no denying that. I know tons of people with Iphones that have bought a nexus 7 and really "enjoyed the interface" meaning Android is now as and more polished than the previous smartphone overlords at apple. Android is becoming a more powerful OS on its own premise than manufacturers and OEM skins.
Thats just my take though
For everyone that had a parent that would smack them one minute then hug them the next, I dare you to read on...
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/15/and...bile-htc-one-this-week-droid-dna-in-december/
Considering they promised an update in September I wouldn't count on it.
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Geeze I'm going to get a nexus 5 and be up .3 levels ha.
Probably will show up on Dec 31 at 11:58 so its technically before the end of the year
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I think Phandroid is off base here. Jason Mackenzie's tweet mentions the T-Mobile HTC One specifically, not the DNA. Then @AndrewGriffitt asks when the DNA will get its update, and Mackenzie responds with the December time frame, but nowhere does he mention that it will be 4.3. The DNA's update is 4.2 (4.2.2?) according to what we've last heard from Verizon, and now it sounds like that update won't come till December.
Am I reading this wrong? Or should I be expecting 4.3 now?
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I think Phandroid is off base here. Jason Mackenzie's tweet mentions the T-Mobile HTC One specifically, not the DNA. Then @AndrewGriffitt asks when the DNA will get its update, and Mackenzie responds with the December time frame, but nowhere does he mention that it will be 4.3. The DNA's update is 4.2 (4.2.2?) according to what we've last heard from Verizon, and now it sounds like that update won't come till December.
Am I reading this wrong? Or should I be expecting 4.3 now?
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I think @jasonmacHTC mentioned in earlier tweets that the next update for the DNA will be the 4.2 update w/ Sense 5.0. I don't think there is an ETA on the 4.3 update with Sense 5.5. I think that's HTC's plan (based on rumors I've read)....eventually, but it definitely won't be this year. This year, its all about 4.2 and Sense 5.0
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I think HTC would slap 4.3 on it today if Verizon would let them. Verizon has to add Navigator and all that other stuff. Look at the ONE. Verizon is the last to update. I've learned that updates don't come with Verizon. I don't root my phones so I just live with what I bought. If I happen to get an update then that's all the better. Verizon still lists this phone at $199. They treat it like a flip phone.
it's pretty basic really. Verizon is in the phone business, they want to sell phones and contracts. If they update our phones to the latest and greatest well then we wouldn't want to change our phones every two years. Android is basically the same across all phones minus the hardware and camera tweaks. So I'm running Sense 5 on my phone and I have access to features that are only on the HTC One like Zoe... Why would I swap my phone for a One at this point? I wouldn't.... see my point? Can't really blame Verizon for their business model. So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts.
I'm still only going to expect a 4.2/4.2.2 update with some iteration of Sense 5 by the year's end (hopefully). Until some new information comes to light anyway.
I also fully expect that to be the final OTA of any significance for this phone, knowing Verizon.
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it's pretty basic really. Verizon is in the phone business, they want to sell phones and contracts. If they update our phones to the latest and greatest well then we wouldn't want to change our phones every two years. Android is basically the same across all phones minus the hardware and camera tweaks. So I'm running Sense 5 on my phone and I have access to features that are only on the HTC One like Zoe... Why would I swap my phone for a One at this point? I wouldn't.... see my point? Can't really blame Verizon for their business model. So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts.
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I would rather have a faster processor with more RAM than a 2 year old phone running the newest version of Android. I'll take speed over a revamped app drawer anyday. An update to Android (yipeee!) isnt going to make me want to hang on to an old phone at the rate that this cell phone technology improves. I wouldnt swap my DNA for a One either. But for a LG G2, a Note 3, a One Max, maybe!
" So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts."
Exactly. It's Verizon's genius business model that fuels all of this, or a lot of it anyway.
ChristianJay said:
I would rather have a faster processor with more RAM than a 2 year old phone running the newest version of Android. I'll take speed over a revamped app drawer anyday. An update to Android (yipeee!) isnt going to make me want to hang on to an old phone at the rate that this cell phone technology improves. I wouldnt swap my DNA for a One either. But for a LG G2, a Note 3, a One Max, maybe!
" So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts."
Exactly. It's Verizon's genius business model that fuels all of this, or a lot of it anyway.
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But even the technology spread to the phones you mention are not that far off the hardware we already have. I think we will start to see a small plateau on hardware improvement for a little while until new architecture comes out like 64bit processors (like the iPhone 5s) So at this point software and camera features will start to be the real selling point for phones
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But even the technology spread to the phones you mention are not that far off the hardware we already have. I think we will start to see a small plateau on hardware improvement for a little while until new architecture comes out like 64bit processors (like the iPhone 5s) So at this point software and camera features will start to be the real selling point for phones
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I see what your saying. I guess I just miss the days when every year you could look forward to something new. That and I've always been the type of person that wants the latest and greatest, within reason of course, not one of these I-sheep standing in line for a new I-phone, or paying too much as a early adopter. Lol.
When my Droid X's contract was up last October, it seemed like a dinosaur in comparison to what was out, the S3 being the cream at the time. Then when I heard about the DNA I was hyped. 1080p, wireless charging, great processor, etc. I got it for $120 online and was happy as heck. Still seems quick and the video looks superb.
4.3 sense 5 enhanced hit the one today hope that helps our device
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4.3 sense 5 enhanced hit the one today hope that helps our device
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That was for T-Mobile wasn't it?
Hopefully someone will be able to port it. Seems like that's all we ever wait on is a port.