(Discussion)Dual Core what? - HTC Rezound

As I recall Android 2.3 isn't built to fully utilize a dual core processor. Was thinking about this the other day at work. Is it possible that this phone we are as all so impressed with while running stock really a sleeping giant? ICS is supposed to have hardware acceleration, no? The next six months are going to interesting in our development section, that's for sure.
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while the Rezound is the best phone on the market right now, it is in fact a "sleeping giant" as we wait for either an ICS update or S-OFF.
In its current state, its not too different then an overclocked Thunderbolt(performance-wise).... but if course, because of the OS limitations.
if you are set on getting a new phone right now though, defenitely get it. if you can wait a bit, then hold off until the quads come out.

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Oh I got mine the week it came out. Amazon got my two cents!! (quite literally).
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Yeah im waiting for s-off and ics. I have no problem with sense but id like a senseless ics. Or maybe a sense ics without the damn bloat. We'll see.
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voxigenboy said:
while the Rezound is the best phone on the market right now, it is in fact a "sleeping giant" as we wait for either an ICS update or S-OFF.
In its current state, its not too different then an overclocked Thunderbolt(performance-wise).... but if course, because of the OS limitations.
if you are set on getting a new phone right now though, defenitely get it. if you can wait a bit, then hold off until the quads come out.
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when can we expect quad cores to come out?

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paigow said:
when can we expect quad cores to come out?
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Supposedly an announcement from HTC at MWC which begins in February. I would be shocked if we actually had units for sale before the Summer in the US.

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Geoi1006 said:
Oh I got mine the week it came out. Amazon got my two cents!! (quite literally).
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Yeah, they got my one cent! LOL!
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I really wonder how all the current dual core phones will compare once running ICS.
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It wouldn't surprise me if achieving S-Off is easier when ICS pops up. Think of all the new holes that will be exploitable! To be honest, I think waiting for ICS is better than waiting for S-Off right now. If HTC keeps to their word it shouldn't be too long before we see it. Not only that, if we achieve S-Off right now people are not going to want to upgrade to ICS until it is rooted again, lol.

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AtLemacks said:
It wouldn't surprise me if achieving S-Off is easier when ICS pops up. Think of all the new holes that will be exploitable! To be honest, I think waiting for ICS is better than waiting for S-Off right now. If HTC keeps to their word it shouldn't be too long before we see it. Not only that, if we achieve S-Off right now people are not going to want to upgrade to ICS until it is rooted again, lol.
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Once you have S-Off it is EXTREMELY easy to root an update from HTC. Literally you just run the zip through a rom kitchen that stuff can be added. When we got the 2.2 Froyo RUU as our updated for the Desire I dumped and rooted it for myself very quickly.

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2.2 to 2.3 isn't as big of a leap as 2.3 to 4.x

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AtLemacks said:
2.2 to 2.3 isn't as big of a leap as 2.3 to 4.x
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Unless someone actually knows about the kind of impacts this will have on rooting future builds if S-OFF were achieved prior, I'd say its too early to tell either way. But I'm an htc noob, what do I know?
Either way, Not working on S-off would be silly I mean the people working on it are at the very least attempting something. You can learn a lot by getting really analytical and say comparing other devices and the methods used on them for similarities, for example. This knowledge will not only further their understanding if the task at hand, but it may also come in handy for future exploits (think ICS and beyond).
That ....and......well...we want our got dern S-OFF
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Geoi1006 said:
As I recall Android 2.3 isn't built to fully utilize a dual core processor. Was thinking about this the other day at work. Is it possible that this phone we are as all so impressed with while running stock really a sleeping giant? ICS is supposed to have hardware acceleration, no? The next six months are going to interesting in our development section, that's for sure.
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You are correct GB doesn't fully utilize dual core phones. ICS does enable true hardware acceleration, GPU will start jumping in for transitions, animations etc. Atm I think GPU plays very little in those processes atm. Although I did see alot of animation/transition lag on the Gnex, but that can be due to the fact that it has a 540 in it (2007 GPU DERP). This phone will be even better even on stock sense bloated ICS.
voxigenboy said:
while the Rezound is the best phone on the market right now, it is in fact a "sleeping giant" as we wait for either an ICS update or S-OFF.
In its current state, its not too different then an overclocked Thunderbolt(performance-wise).... but if course, because of the OS limitations.
if you are set on getting a new phone right now though, defenitely get it. if you can wait a bit, then hold off until the quads come out.
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You do notice the speed differences easily as well as the radio quality. I get like 40-50 mbps DL 8-10 mbps UL in my area, with the tbolt i was getting 20ish tops and 5-6. Transitions are not as smooth on the Tbolt compared to the Rezound. But yes everyday usage they are quite comparable since the OS/ most apps don't take advantage of the DC/GPU acceleration.
paigow said:
when can we expect quad cores to come out?
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Quads are out on tablets already (Asus transformer prime). I would imagine Q3 Q4 2012, maybe Q1 Q2 2013 for phones. But TBH if all Android is going to do is bump hardware and hope it fixes the problems that in my opinion is pretty sad. There is no reason for our phones to have any lag issues or performance issue w/ the hardware we have. Flash performance is terrible, UI lag on almost every android phone I've seen when notifications play, and you're scrolling around. You can throw extra cores, more RAM, stronger GPU in but I highly doubt that's going to help. Issue is they need to properly code the damn OS and it's sad that it's taken them this long, and tbh not even sure if ICS properly addresses the issue. After watching the Gnex review on phonedog it was quite disappointing. I hope Google tries to step up polish the OS and make it function properly. They also need to step up and have some form of control to end this fragmentation. Like Netflix HD would be amazing on this device, yet it's only certified for OMAP 4+ devices :/. Hope ICS really does unify them all.

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How is it sad it has taken so long for Google to produce 3 operating systems in the same year? You are making some VERY bold statements dude, and if you are so pissed off with Android go get yourself an iPhone. Google got into the game late, and is now dominating, just because they are trying to do it correctly doesn't mean they have to do it fast. You know what happens when they rush it? People like you complain their phones suck because x, y, and z problems and they should have never released the update. See what happened when Honeycomb came out? A ****load of problems because it was a halfway point. Not to mention Google tries to make their OS compatible on the most devices possible, not just the top of the line, they cater to everyone.

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AtLemacks said:
How is it sad it has taken so long for Google to produce 3 operating systems in the same year? You are making some VERY bold statements dude, and if you are so pissed off with Android go get yourself an iPhone. Google got into the game late, and is now dominating, just because they are trying to do it correctly doesn't mean they have to do it fast. You know what happens when they rush it? People like you complain their phones suck because x, y, and z problems and they should have never released the update. See what happened when Honeycomb came out? A ****load of problems because it was a halfway point. Not to mention Google tries to make their OS compatible on the most devices possible, not just the top of the line, they cater to everyone.
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Thing is they do rush it. I'm just stating it's taken them longer then necessary due to the fragmentation of the market. Yeah they might of implemented the OS' but what good will it do us if it takes the manufacturer/carrier ages to push them out? I'm not going with iOS because frankly it bores me, I'm not PISSED with Android, just had higher expectations for it. I'm not complaining about about my phone just giving some feedback. Last time I checked this is what the forums were for. Hopefully they figure it out and performance issues are corrected. But from looking at the reviews of the Gnex even ON the latest ICS platform There's still the lag and slow down that Android has been plagued by. The UI lag could be in the part of Google using the power 540 soc which is pretty antiquated at this point. Obviously I wouldn't of bought another Android phone if I wasn't hopeful they could correct the issues .

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AtLemacks said:
How is it sad it has taken so long for Google to produce 3 operating systems in the same year? You are making some VERY bold statements dude, and if you are so pissed off with Android go get yourself an iPhone. Google got into the game late, and is now dominating, just because they are trying to do it correctly doesn't mean they have to do it fast. You know what happens when they rush it? People like you complain their phones suck because x, y, and z problems and they should have never released the update. See what happened when Honeycomb came out? A ****load of problems because it was a halfway point. Not to mention Google tries to make their OS compatible on the most devices possible, not just the top of the line, they cater to everyone.
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settle down dude. Bottom line is that while ICS looks nice, it doesn't look like it runs any better than GB on the nexus reviews I've seen. Still UI lag, still stutters at times.
Bottom line is that this is the only OS now, that can't seem to get the graphics smooth. This is what, 4 years now for android??? WP7 got that right on the first try and added the big features as the second and third iterations. Just like everything else google does, ICS is a beta product, plain and simple.
And yes, I would go back to wp7, but until it has lte, I'm here on android. And to be honest, I love the rezound, very little stutter, very little lag, and I haven't had any reboots or had to do any resets just because. But with dual core and 1gb of RAM, these things shouldn't happen.
I check my memory usage a few times a day and I never have more than 150mb of free memory. I find many apps that I have not opened that are cacheing memory in the background. This shouldn't happen. I really hope google goes to ios and wp7 type multitasking that uses save states for apps instead of running in the background.

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Damn the code for Android 4.1 has already been released. Story is on the XDA portal.
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Yea, I saw people fighting about it on Twitter yesterday.
I also saw Evil is pissed off at your for your Avatar, lol.

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Having just unlocked and rooted finally I thought I'd resurrect my thread. I do notice definite difference in the system as a whole and am loving what I'm seeing so far. I'm usually not an I told you so type but I think we were dead on here with our guesses that we hadn't seen anything yet. 2.3 on these was great, sure, but this phone was built with ICS in mind!!
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I'm a little angry at HTC for promising Q1 ics but if they are working hard for it to be smooth and majestic then so be it; we need that kernel source most of all.