So will you guys be swapping your Asus Transformer Prime for a similar product? Im sure most people are purchasing this due to the extra keyboard dock or tegra 3.
EDIT: Personally I'll be sticking with Asus Prime for now, its a good device.
Specification:
10.1" Screen IPS Display
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8960 (28mn TSMC) Dual-Core 1.7Ghz / Adreno 225 GPU 400 Mhz (Overclocked Adreno 220 + Better driver)
20 Hour battery Life
Keyboard Dock like Asus Transformer
16/32/64gb
The GPU is just on par with Mali 400MP which is a shame (GLBenchmark) but that is early benchmark.
Overclocking should be alot better for the CPU, since its a 28mn, I guess reaching over 2.0Ghz is fine!
Information:
Lenovo Idea Tab S 2
We need to start the review by mentioning that there may be certain ambiguities in the specification listed here for Lenovo Idea Tab S 2 since it’s actually not the official release. But as the prior experiences suggest, these information are normally bound to be true. So let us proceed with them. The Lenovo Idea Tab S 2 is to have 10.1 inches IPS display with a resolution of 1280 x 800 pixels which would be a state of the art screen panel and resolution. It will have 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 8960 dual core processor with 1GB of RAM. This beast of hardware is controlled by Android OS v4.0 IceCreamSandwich and Lenovo has included a completely modified UI called Mondrain UI for their Idea Tab.
It comes in three storage configurations, 16 / 32 / 64 GBs with the ability to expand the storage using a microSD card. It features 5MP rear camera with auto focus and geo tagging with Assisted GPS and while the camera isn’t that good, it has decent performance verifiers. Idea Tab S 2 will come in 3G connectivity, not 4G connectivity which certainly is a surprise and it also has Wi-Fi 801.11 b/g/n for continuous connectivity and they claim that this tablet can control a smart TV so we assume they have some variation of DLNA included in Idea Tab S 2 as well. Following the footsteps of Asus, Lenovo Idea Tab S 2 also comes with a keyboard dock that has some additional battery life as well as additional ports and an optical track pad. It’s such a good concept to be replicated from Asus and we reckon it would be a deal changer for Lenovo Idea Tab S 2.
Lenovo has also made their new Tablet rather thin scoring a mere 8.69mm of thickness and 580g of weight which is surprisingly light. The inbuilt battery can score up to 9 hours as per Lenovo and if you hook it up with the keyboard dock, 20 hours of total battery life is guaranteed by Lenovo which is a very good move.
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I certainly won't be going through the trouble of changing to this. This doesn't really look to add anything of value for me (don't need gps and my wifi works fine), and if pricing from lenovo in the past stays true this will likely be more expensive then the equivalent primes.
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The GPU is just on par with Mali 400MP which is a shame (GLBenchmark) but that is early benchmark.
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That's surprising because of the GFLOPS specs for the GPUs:
Tegra 3 Kal-El: 7.2 GFLOPS
Qualcomm 8960 Adreno 225: 19.2 GFLOPS
PowerVR SGX543MP2: 19.2 GFLOPS
And per Anandtech "Qualcomm claims that MSM8960 will be able to outperform Apple's A5 in GLBenchmark 2.x at qHD resolutions." Of course, Qualcomm would say that but even if it is on par with the iPad2 (543MP2) it will still significantly outperform the Tegra3.
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That's surprising because of the GFLOPS specs for the GPUs:
Tegra 3 Kal-El: 7.2 GFLOPS
Qualcomm 8960 Adreno 225: 19.2 GFLOPS
PowerVR SGX543MP2: 19.2 GFLOPS
And per Anandtech "Qualcomm claims that MSM8960 will be able to outperform Apple's A5 in GLBenchmark 2.x at qHD resolutions." Of course, Qualcomm would say that but even if it is on par with the iPad2 (543MP2) it will still significantly outperform the Tegra3.
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Yes but driver is the most important. Since Tegra 3 Ka el is clocked higher than 300Mhz, the 7.2 GFLOPs doesn't count.
I'd doubt it'll significantly outperform the Tegra 3 GPU. Just like the Adreno 220 was meant to be better but isn't much different.
Even Qualcomm admited that it'll only have 50% more performance than its current Adreno 220.
FML, GLBenchmark took down Asus TF202 with the GPU. It just performed lower than the Mali GPU, wish I saved the website.
With Adreno 225 Qualcomm improves performance along two vectors, the first being clock speed. While Adreno 220 (used in the MSM8660) ran at 266MHz, Adreno 225 runs at 400MHz thanks to 28nm. Secondly, Qualcomm tells us Adreno 225 is accompanied by "significant driver improvements". Keeping in mind the sheer amount of compute potential of the Adreno 22x family, it only makes sense that driver improvements could unlock a lot of performance. Qualcomm expects the 225 to be 50% faster than the outgoing 220
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FML, GLBenchmark took down Asus TF202 with the GPU. It just performed lower than the Mali GPU, wish I saved the website.
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Yes, I saw that comment posted in another tread and I tried to google it but could not find it. Hopefully, Anandtech will put something out soon once demos for these newer tablets are available.
I've personally had a lot of headaches in the past with Lenovo laptops so I doubt I'll be making another Lenovo purchase. (Google "Y530 Lenovo Hinges" if you're interested in the issue- it was a common problem due to faulty design.)
The powerVR and Adreno have much more efficient rendering methods than the Tegra chips, so this tablet is no pushover at all.
I wouldn't be surprised if real world performance is better than the tegra 3 outside of tegra 3 specific apps.
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The Adreno 225 + SGX 543 MP2 both get 19.2 gflops @300mhz. we dont know the clock speed of the A5 but we can speculate that its probably around the 250-300mhz range.
That makes the Adreno(@400) more powerfull in flops than even the A5/tegra 3, however flops dont tell the whole story, as the A5 has twice the number of TMU's so has a higher fill rate clock for clock and better texturing capability.
The A5 will likely have more ROPs as well, but i dont know that.
The A5 will also have slightly higher bandwidth i think.
Looking at what Anand has said, the adreno 220, only had single channel memory=low bandwidth, it also probably poor effeciency in getting data to the shaders, i think Power vr are more effecient than adreno 2xx series.
The drivers on Adreno were not very good either, indeed some developers on this forum have managed to DOUBLE the adreno [email protected] using the newist Adreno drivers from qualcomm, i think shaky153 was leading the charge with.
I would be very suprised if the Adreno 225 equaled the A5, but it might equal or slightly beat the tegra 3..especially at higher resolutions due to tegras lack of bandwidth.
I don't understand why Nvidia doesn't announce the GPU clock speed!! they detailed it with T2! which means there is something to hide
AP25 was 400Mhz, so T3 shouldn't be under 400mhz
this discussion would be a lot easier if we know the actual clock speed
Prime/Nvidia rules!
Plus Lenovo had No developement support at all. And they are one of the slowest to release firmware updates. Everything is basically dead in Lenovo land.
It seems OK. But nothing enticing to make me think twice about trading my Prime. PRIME is just to cool all around.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-hit-canada-june-20-2-gb-ram-confirmed
So as the title suggest, what is better? Is the Quad Core 1 Gig better than the Dual Core 2 Gig versions of the S III? What about the video quality on the 2 Gig version? Is that going to suffer? And even more, is it worth jumping to the S III if you are on the Galaxy Nexus?
My initial thought is with Apex Pro installed as the UI the S III will feel close to the GNex but with more RAM so it may be an upgrade although a minor one.
What are your thoughts on this? Everybody weigh in.
Thanks!!!
2 gb I will take hands down. LTE and the s4 combo works well, as proven by the HOX
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If only I have a choice. Dual core 2gb Ram is of course better. With LTE support, is definitely way better than Quad core.
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Q hmm ....resembles Q&A..
Don't know if you care about audio, but we don't know yet if the dual core version will still keep the Wolfson DAC.
If the LTE version will have the same battery capacity of 2100 mAh as the international counterpart definitely will have a better battery life.
I guess I made the assumption that the Audio would be the same...not a good thing to do I guess.
These are the specs for ease of viewing:
•Processor: Snapdragon S4 Dual Core 1.5 GHz with Qualcomm MSM8960 Chipset
•OS: ICS 4.0.4
•Data: LTE (SGH-i747 variation) and HSPA+ 42 (SGH-iT999 variation)
•Memory: 2 GB RAM
•Dimensions: 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm
•Weight: 133g
•Storage: 16/32GB internal memory (SGH-i747)/ 16GB internal memory (SGH-iT999). Expandable microSD up to 32GB
•Display: 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED 1280x720 (306ppi)
•Connectivity: NFC, Bluetooth 4.0, DLNA, WiFi 802.11 a/b/g/n, MHL Video Out
•Camera: 8MP Rear-facing, 1.9MP Front-facing
•Battery: 2100 mAh
...no mention of the Audio though
I have experienced some pretty choppy graphics when playing NFS Most Wanted with my i9300. The game stutters from time to time and by the looks of it it seems rendered at 20-22 FPS (not terribly laggy, but it's not good below 24).
So I decided to port NFS Most Wanted from my GS3 to my GS1 (i9000), which was probably incompatible from the market because of the "old" hardware. To my surprise, the game was rendered at a steady 40+ FPS with only the occasional stutter when 3+ cops are after me and 5 cars are on display. This, on a 1.14 Ghz Exynos Single core processor with a PowerVR SGX 540 card running at 200 Mhz.
Can someone tell me what is the reason behind this? Is this a Mali (ARM) specific problem? A Mali 400 running at 533 Mhz with the Exynos Quad should be able to smoke the SGX 540 running at 200 Mhz. Yes the SGX is powering a WVGA display I know, but with over twice the clock rate I don't see why the Mali should perform worse!
Experienced the same. I thought it was just a laggy game but I tried it on an Xperia Ion and was suprised that it turned out smoother than the SIII
works fine here. stock unrooted atm. i'm guessing over 40fps.
nikpik said:
Experienced the same. I thought it was just a laggy game but I tried it on an Xperia Ion and was suprised that it turned out smoother than the SIII
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Ion has the Adreno 220 if i recall correctly? It should be more or less equal to Mali, but a Mali at that clock rate should be faster. Both the Ion and Sgs3 render 720p displays so its a fair fight there.
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works fine here. stock unrooted atm. i'm guessing over 40fps.
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I assume you are sticking with the stock clock rates as well (1.4 GHz CPU, 440 MHz GPU)? Are you on 4.1.2 or 4.1.1? I have tries both ELL5 4.1.2 and CM10.1 and they both produce similar results, but CM was slightly worse.
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Ion has the Adreno 220 if i recall correctly? It should be more or less equal to Mali, but a Mali at that clock rate should be faster. Both the Ion and Sgs3 render 720p displays so its a fair fight there.
I assume you are sticking with the stock clock rates as well (1.4 GHz CPU, 440 MHz GPU)? Are you on 4.1.2 or 4.1.1? I have tries both ELL5 4.1.2 and CM10.1 and they both produce similar results, but CM was slightly worse.
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stock 4.1.2 as i said unrooted. everything stock, clock speeds, drivers, etc. everything and works fine.
ballsofsteel said:
I have experienced some pretty choppy graphics when playing NFS Most Wanted with my i9300. The game stutters from time to time and by the looks of it it seems rendered at 20-22 FPS (not terribly laggy, but it's not good below 24).
So I decided to port NFS Most Wanted from my GS3 to my GS1 (i9000), which was probably incompatible from the market because of the "old" hardware. To my surprise, the game was rendered at a steady 40+ FPS with only the occasional stutter when 3+ cops are after me and 5 cars are on display. This, on a 1.14 Ghz Exynos Single core processor with a PowerVR SGX 540 card running at 200 Mhz.
Can someone tell me what is the reason behind this? Is this a Mali (ARM) specific problem? A Mali 400 running at 533 Mhz with the Exynos Quad should be able to smoke the SGX 540 running at 200 Mhz. Yes the SGX is powering a WVGA display I know, but with over twice the clock rate I don't see why the Mali should perform worse!
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I too have no problem running the game. Runs smooth. Currently on ultima ROM
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Hey guys and gals
Here we have a run-down of the specifications of the Samsung Galaxy Ace 4, feel free to discuss the overall hardware and design of the device. Lets kick off with the specs:
Image coming soon!
Specifications:
Display - TFT, 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - TBC
CPU - Dual-core 1.2 GHz
GPU - TBC
RAM - 1 GB
Memory - 8 GB, microSD, up to 64 GB
Camera - 5 MP, 2592 х 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Sensors - Accelerometer
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - 1500 mAh
Dimensions - 121.4 x 62.9 x 10.8 mm
Weight - 123.8 g
Colors - Iris Charcoal, Classic White
Source: gsmarena/Samsung All need TBC.
What model is that?
I´ve just ordered a "Samsung G357FZ GALAXY Ace 4", which has somewhat different HW:
Chipset - MSM8916 (Snapdragon 410)
CPU - Quad-core Cortex-A53 @ 1.2 GHz
GPU - Adreno 306
Battery - 1900 mAh
The rest seems to be the same.
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Ok, there seem to be two models of Ace 4.
1. SM-G313MU, which is most likely what @ForumNinja wrote about.
2. SM-G357FZ, which is the Snapdragon model. Seems to be labeled as Galaxy Ace Style LTE on some markets.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to split at least the developement sections into two in order to prevent confusion. If there is going to be any developement at all
knizmi said:
What model is that?
I´ve just ordered a "Samsung G357FZ GALAXY Ace 4", which has somewhat different HW:
Chipset - MSM8916 (Snapdragon 410)
CPU - Quad-core Cortex-A53 @ 1.2 GHz
GPU - Adreno 306
Battery - 1900 mAh
The rest seems to be the same.
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Ok, there seem to be two models of Ace 4.
1. SM-G313MU, which is most likely what @ForumNinja wrote about.
2. SM-G357FZ, which is the Snapdragon model.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to split at least the developement sections into two in order to prevent confusion. If there is going to be any developement at all
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Thanks for the input:good:
I've been having trouble getting info on this device, many sources are quoting different hardware. It's most likely we will see two different models, as we have seen with the Ace 3, 3g and LTE. I'll update the thread with the relevant info when it becomes available:good:
@ForumNinja
Just found out that my model is marketed as Galaxy Ace Style LTE in several countries. In other words - Snapdragon Galaxy Ace 4 = Galaxy Ace Style LTE. Added it to my original post.
Galaxy Ace 4 Lite / Galaxy Trend 2 / Galaxy Vivalto 3G (SM-G313HN):
Display :4.,0" TFT 480 x 800 (WVGA)
CPU: Dual-core 1.0 GHz (Broadcom BCM21664)
GPU: VideoCore IV HW
RAM: 512Mb
Storage: 4 Gb (1,81 Gb used by system)
Rear camera: 5.0Mp, flash, autofocus
Front camera: VGA
Sensors: Accelerometer
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery: 1500mAh
Dimensions: 121.4 x 62.9 x 10.8 mm
Weight: 123.8 g
Colors: Iris Charcoal, Classic White
OS: Android 4.4.2
I just got mine here in Sweden. It's only called Galaxy Ace 4.
Specs for this is the same as on the Samsung website (UK site, but same specs as on the Swedish site: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/SM-G357FZAZBTU)
So it seems that in UK the phone is called SM-G357FZAZBTU, but the swedish version is called SM-G357FZAZNEE (only last 3 letters differ).
The only problem I have now is to determine wheter I should sell this and keep my (CPU-wise) inferior Galaxy S2 or use this as my main phone and the S2 as backup...
(I got this for free )
goldug said:
I just got mine here in Sweden. It's only called Galaxy Ace 4.
Specs for this is the same as on the Samsung website (UK site, but same specs as on the Swedish site:
So it seems that in UK the phone is called SM-G357FZAZBTU, but the swedish version is called SM-G357FZAZNEE (only last 3 letters differ).
The only problem I have now is to determine wheter I should sell this and keep my (CPU-wise) inferior Galaxy S2 or use this as my main phone and the S2 as backup...
(I got this for free )
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How durable is samsung ace? and in general? Can survive a few friendly slip ups?
Oh and memory available after all the bloatware
goldug said:
I just got mine here in Sweden. It's only called Galaxy Ace 4.
Specs for this is the same as on the Samsung website (UK site, but same specs as on the Swedish site: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/SM-G357FZAZBTU)
So it seems that in UK the phone is called SM-G357FZAZBTU, but the swedish version is called SM-G357FZAZNEE (only last 3 letters differ).
The only problem I have now is to determine wheter I should sell this and keep my (CPU-wise) inferior Galaxy S2 or use this as my main phone and the S2 as backup...
(I got this for free )
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I was the same, got mine from work, after using the Ace 4 LTE I gave my S2 to my daughter.....
hay its seems to be there is another ace 4
mine is SM-G136HU
CPU - Dual-core 1.2 GHz
RAM - 1 GB
Andorid - 4.4.4
My Model Specs
Specifications:
Model : SM-313MU
display 480x800px / density 240 dpi
chipset: vivaltolte
CPU - Dual-core 1.2 GHz
GPU - PowerVR SGX 544MP
RAM - 1 GB
Memory - 4 GB, microSD, up to 64 GB
Camera - 5 MP, 2592 х 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash / 1.2MP(1280x960) frontal
Sensors - Accelerometer
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - 1800 mAh
source: my phone.
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How durable is samsung ace? and in general? Can survive a few friendly slip ups?
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Dropped it a couple of times. The metallic paint on the rim is slightly chipped but other than that, it's fine.
Galaxy Ace 4 LTE / Galaxy Ace Style / Galaxy ... (SM-G357FZ):
"SM-G357FZWZATO?AT"
Display: 4.3" TFT 480 x 800 Super-AMOLED
CPU: Quad-Core 1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 MSM8916
GPU: Qualcomm Adreno 306
RAM: 1024 Mb
Storage: 8 Gb
Rear camera: 5.0 Mp, LED-flash, autofocus
Front camera: 1.3 Mp
Sensors: Accelerometer, GPS, Glonass, NFC
Connectivity: 802.11 b/g/n (b/g/n), Bluetooth 4.0, Quadroband-GSM (DCS 1.800 MHz, PCS 1.900 MHz, GSM 850 MHz, GSM 900 MHz), Triband-UMTS (B5 (850), B1 (2.100), B8 (900), Pentaband-LTE (B7(2.600), B8(900), B20(800), B3(1.800), B1(2.100)
Battery: 1900 mAh
Dimensions: 128.9 x 65.8 x 9.1 mm
Weight: 126.0 g
OS: Android 4.4.4 (via update)
I think under the Ace 4 name running 4 or more model now (lol)
My phone name is Ace 4 in Hungary (SM-G357FZ)
Specs:
LTE cat.4 (800/900/1800/2100/2600)
Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 (4x1,2ghz)
1 gb of ram
8gb of rom
Adreno 306 GPU (400mhz)
4,3" WVGA Super Amoled display
5MP +AF + LED FLASH Primary camera (videorecord 1280x720/720p)
1.3MP Front facing camera
1900mah battery
Mine (Brazil) is labeled as SM-G313M/DS and sold as the Samsung Galaxy Ace 4.
1.0 GHz dual-core Broadcom CPU;
OpenGL ES 2.0
464 MB of RAM
2.2 GB of internal storage
5 mpixel back camera
0.3 mpixel front camera
1500 mAh battery
Board is Vivalto.
It has two SIM slots
Otherwise, just like @Nikiz's unit.
There is also an Ace 4 "lite", with a single core processor, less storage and no front camera.
From mine i think is the worst of all
Samsung Galaxy V (just another variant of Ace 4), Trend Lite - SM-G313HZ (vivalto3gvn)
Display :4.,0" TFT 480 x 800 (WVGA)
CPU: Single-core 1.2 GHZ (Spreadtrum SC7715)
GPU: Mali-400MP (302 MHZ, lol, even an s2 can't reach that when overclocked)
RAM: 512MB (460MB available)
Storage: 4 Gb (2,3GB available)
Rear camera: 3.2Mp, flash, non-autofocus
Front camera: VGA
Sensors: Accelerometer
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery: 1500mAh
Dimensions: 121.4 x 62.9 x 10.8 mm
Weight: 123.8 g
Colors: White
OS: Android 4.4.2
And like @espinafre said, this is also an Ace 4 "Lite"
There's also a Galaxy V Plus which is not different much, just has a dual-core CPU (confirmed SC7727S)
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From mine i think is the worst of all
Samsung Galaxy V (just another variant of Ace 4), Trend Lite - SM-G313HZ (vivalto3gvn)
Display :4.,0" TFT 480 x 800 (WVGA)
CPU: Single-core 1.2 GHZ (Spreadtrum SC7715)
GPU: Mali-400MP (302 MHZ, lol, even an s2 can't reach that when overclocked)
RAM: 512MB (460MB available)
Storage: 4 Gb (2,3GB available)
Rear camera: 3.2Mp, flash, non-autofocus
Front camera: VGA
Sensors: Accelerometer
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery: 1500mAh
Dimensions: 121.4 x 62.9 x 10.8 mm
Weight: 123.8 g
Colors: White
OS: Android 4.4.2
And like @espinafre said, this is also an Ace 4 "Lite"
There's also a Galaxy V Plus which is not different much, just has a dual-core CPU (confirmed SC7727S)
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I have the Galaxy Ace Nxt 2
Display :4.,0" TFT 480 x 800 (WVGA)
CPU: Dual-core 1.2 GHZ (Spreadtrum SC7727S)
GPU: Mali-400MP
RAM: 512MB (460MB available)
Storage: 4 Gb (2,3GB available)
Rear camera: 3Mp, flash, non-autofocus
Front camera: VGA
Sensors: Accelerometer
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery: 1500mAh
Dimensions: 121.4 x 62.9 x 10.8 mm
Weight: 123.8 g
Colors: White/Black
OS: Android 4.4.2
Probably the V plus