so im sick of the massive overheating issue when i do anything on my phone, so i want to roll back to the previous version of gingerbread i had. is there any issue if i just flash an official rom using odin? or is there anything else that ics updated, that could cause problems? i updated to ics through kies.
cheers
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gruff83 said:
so im sick of the massive overheating issue when i do anything on my phone, so i want to roll back to the previous version of gingerbread i had. is there any issue if i just flash an official rom using odin? or is there anything else that ics updated, that could cause problems? i updated to ics through kies.
cheers
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Could be that Kies also updated your bootloader.
Just try to flash an GB ROM.
If you experience any booting issue, you may have to flash an GB bootloader.
You can find the different bootloaders here => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16781156&postcount=2
Just look for a grey box with red text.
You can flash the bootloader in PDA section of Odin - same way like for the ROM or kernel.
It_ler said:
Could be that Kies also updated your bootloader.
Just try to flash an GB ROM.
If you experience any booting issue, you may have to flash an GB bootloader.
You can find the different bootloaders here => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16781156&postcount=2
Just look for a grey box with red text.
You can flash the bootloader in PDA section of Odin - same way like for the ROM or kernel.
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And what all this have to do with his problem?
gruff83 said:
so im sick of the massive overheating issue when i do anything on my phone, so i want to roll back to the previous version of gingerbread i had. is there any issue if i just flash an official rom using odin? or is there anything else that ics updated, that could cause problems? i updated to ics through kies.
cheers
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Heat issues usually solved by a wipe, modem change, kernel change.
If you have not wiped, it's a good time now, as you have to do it anyway when you go from ICS to GB.
Related
I haven't seen a thread for this yet and some people who are running old firmware don't know about this so I thought I'd post it for those that are running old firmware and want to flash ICS Roms without updating to the latest leak. This will work for any .22 based Rom I have tried it on so far. Some devs mention it, others don't. I do not know who made this patch but it came with Scroslers Cleanrom and I thank him for it. If you have constant reboots after flashing a .22 based rom, this is for you.
Hope this helps.
Cameron
every ics rom thread has a patch listed..... and for clearity... Joel was the brains behind the patch... while we may not of used his exact files he was the one that informed us of what files needed to be replaced
lllboredlll said:
every ics rom thread has a patch listed..... and for clearity... Joel was the brains behind the patch... while we may not of used his exact files he was the one that informed us of what files needed to be replaced
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That may be but I still keep seeing people that don't know about it. So thought i would post it anyway. Doesnt surprise me that he thought of it. He's a genius. So thanks to him.
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How do i go about applying this patch? do i have to rename it something and flash in hboot/bootloader?
After the rim loads up, immediately reboot to recovery, flash in recovery
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roosxter said:
After the rim loads up, immediately reboot to recovery, flash in recovery
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What is the rim? Ok so I boot into recovery. I have this patch on the root of my external sd i'm assuming. and using the amon ra recovery i just flash it like i would a rom?
edit: Nevermind! problem solved. i just flash using amon ra recovery as if it were a rom. sweet.
Yup and I meant rom lol
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After the rim loads up, immediately reboot to recovery, flash in recovery
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Nah you just have to flash it before you boot into the Rom
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Ok i started with a stock rooted GB S-OFF with Amons 3.15 recovery
I then downloaded the firmware/radios/hboot combos from chilpill here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614366
i got the ICS-2.25-JB-5-7 zip then i flashed the NEW FIRMWARE PATCH
and then i got NEWTS RLS 1 ROM
Im getting alot of errors and the main one is HTCDM has stopped and wondering if i have done something wrong I have done and redone again and wiped twice to three times
My questions are and i so apologize because i know its been a wore out subject
But how to know which firmware I am on ??
example GB firmware is this number???
example ICS firmware is this number???
if im on GB firmware and want to goto ICS firmware do i need OLD or NEW FIRMWARE PATCH???
If im on ICS firmware and want to goto GB firmware do i need OLD or NEW FIRMWARE PATCH???
Like i said I am so sorry but it is confusing because you say to get old firmware patch to update to ICS but i thought it would be new firmware to go to ICS
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Ok i started with a stock rooted GB S-OFF with Amons 3.15 recovery
I then downloaded the firmware/radios/hboot combos from chilpill here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614366
i got the ICS-2.25-JB-5-7 zip then i flashed the NEW FIRMWARE PATCH
and then i got NEWTS RLS 1 ROM
Im getting alot of errors and the main one is HTCDM has stopped and wondering if i have done something wrong I have done and redone again and wiped twice to three times
My questions are and i so apologize because i know its been a wore out subject
But how to know which firmware I am on ??
example GB firmware is this number???
example ICS firmware is this number???
if im on GB firmware and want to goto ICS firmware do i need OLD or NEW FIRMWARE PATCH???
If im on ICS firmware and want to goto GB firmware do i need OLD or NEW FIRMWARE PATCH???
Like i said I am so sorry but it is confusing because you say to get old firmware patch to update to ICS but i thought it would be new firmware to go to ICS
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If you flashed one of my ics hboot combos then you no longer need to flash the new/old firmware patch after flashing a ics Rom
And I haven't done this myself but flashing the new firmware patch on top of a gingerbread Rom should alow you to use ics firmware on a gingerbread Rom
As for that error I have no idea why your getting it, maybe a bad download or a app conflicting with something, afaik nothing with the firmware or firmware patches will cause that issue
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thanks superchilpil i do appreciate it tremendously
this might not be the best place for this but here goes.
i seen some talk that running ics roms on old firmware with patch is better the updating your firmware. i am s-off, ics with new firmware.
what are some of your thoughts on this?
neckbonest said:
this might not be the best place for this but here goes.
i seen some talk that running ics roms on old firmware with patch is better the updating your firmware. i am s-off, ics with new firmware.
what are some of your thoughts on this?
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The simple phrase "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" applies here
If your not having any signal issues then don't upgrade
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I have an ATT I777 on the UCKK6 base. Id like to root it. Its obviously still running GB and that base I listed. I know they sometime lock stuff down further with different update. So the question is, would there be any issue with updating the phone to ICS through KIES and then rooting? Or should I root it before? If I root it before will I lose root if I try to update it then, I would think so at a minimum.
does anyone know the most current base, or what it would be that I came out with after the KIES update?
loki993 said:
I have an ATT I777 on the UCKK6 base. Id like to root it. Its obviously still running GB and that base I listed. I know they sometime lock stuff down further with different update. So the question is, would there be any issue with updating the phone to ICS through KIES and then rooting? Or should I root it before? If I root it before will I lose root if I try to update it then, I would think so at a minimum.
does anyone know the most current base, or what it would be that I came out with after the KIES update?
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Before or after it doesn't matter, our latest base (ics) is UCLE5 which is the official update.
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loki993 said:
I have an ATT I777 on the UCKK6 base. Id like to root it. Its obviously still running GB and that base I listed. I know they sometime lock stuff down further with different update. So the question is, would there be any issue with updating the phone to ICS through KIES and then rooting? Or should I root it before? If I root it before will I lose root if I try to update it then, I would think so at a minimum.
does anyone know the most current base, or what it would be that I came out with after the KIES update?
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WARNING: DON'T FLASH THE AT&T ICS ROM.... You are much safer flashing this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
Or any other custom ICS ROM from the DEV section...
snipe2nite said:
WARNING: DON'T FLASH THE AT&T ICS ROM.... You are much safer flashing this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
Or any other custom ICS ROM from the DEV section...
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Ok, so then go through the process to root UCKK6 and then just flash that? Id assume the other available ROMs have the kernel checked for the EMMC bug?
Im new to this phone ans Samsung in general, is this phone basically unbrickable? I see unbricking flashes and things like that
loki993 said:
Ok, so then go through the process to root UCKK6 and then just flash that? Id assume the other available ROMs have the kernel checked for the EMMC bug?
Im new to this phone ans Samsung in general, is this phone basically unbrickable? I see unbricking flashes and things like that
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No. This phone is definitely *not* unbrickable if, by unbrickable you mean not capable of being bricked. If you mean can it be brought back from a brick, then it depends on the type of brick we're talking. If you're talking the hard brick caused by the eMMC bug, then no. You won't be bringing it back from the dead.
If you have not already, I would advise reading the post at the following link, then reading the thread related to the mentioned app:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/determine-your-devices-hard-brick-risk-with-got-brickbug/
xhepera said:
No. This phone is definitely *not* unbrickable if, by unbrickable you mean not capable of being bricked. If you mean can it be brought back from a brick, then it depends on the type of brick we're talking. If you're talking the hard brick caused by the eMMC bug, then no. You won't be bringing it back from the dead.
If you have not already, I would advise reading the post at the following link, then reading the thread related to the mentioned app:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/determine-your-devices-hard-brick-risk-with-got-brickbug/
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I got the brickbug lol. Thats interesting. So basically though as long as I'm on a fixed kernel I'm ok, just check the kernel thread to make sure its fixed and avoid stock sammy kernels at all costs lol.
loki993 said:
I got the brickbug lol. Thats interesting. So basically though as long as I'm on a fixed kernel I'm ok, just check the kernel thread to make sure its fixed and avoid stock sammy kernels at all costs lol.
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All the kernels here are okay, just not the stock sammy ones
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Nick281051 said:
All the kernels here are okay, just not the stock sammy ones
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Nicks right. But you'll be fine if u wanna try out stock ics. Just remember not to wipe data / factory reset with that kernel and.you're ggood to go. I installed it two days ago and ran it for a while. It worked fine but the battery drain was killing me. So I switched. Good luck, happy flashing.
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If you will root your phone, suggest to use ShishiROM ICS. It has a great battery life.
Im a great fan of task ROM, and then I try ShishiROM. Im using it for 3days now, no regrets. Its a great ROM.
Just try it. :highfive:
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Nicks right. But you'll be fine if u wanna try out stock ics. Just remember not to wipe data / factory reset with that kernel and.you're ggood to go. I installed it two days ago and ran it for a while. It worked fine but the battery drain was killing me. So I switched. Good luck, happy flashing.
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No need really, I'm so used to running ASOP like ROMS on my other phones I probably wouldn't like it anyway. I was mostly just curious as it seems that with the base I'm currently on rooting is a little more involved. I was also wondering if Sammy had maybe patched something in the new build.
loki993 said:
Ok, so then go through the process to root UCKK6 and then just flash that? Id assume the other available ROMs have the kernel checked for the EMMC bug?
Im new to this phone ans Samsung in general, is this phone basically unbrickable? I see unbricking flashes and things like that
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Here is what I would do if I were you. When I rooted mine I was on KH7 so I used DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit then installed Mobile Odin to flash Entropy512's DD 3-7 GB kernel to get CWM then flashed a custom ICS ROM. I went back to look over creepys guide "How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter" I have read it 100 times I just want to make I got you the best info I could.... Give a BIG shout out to creepyncrawly for putting that guide out!!! Make sure you read that guide lots of great info... I did see a KK6 stock rooted package on here 1a. just read up see what is best then just follow the steps..... If you have any more questions just post them in this thread.
1. If you flash the 2c. "Odin3 One-Click Downloader Stock I-777 UCKH7 with Root no BL" link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
1a. Kernel + cache + rooted UCKK6 system package
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
2. Then install Mobile Odin link (You will need this to flash Entropy512 GB kernel just extract the zImage from the zip file and load it in the kernel slot in Mobile Odin)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
3. Then flash Entropy512 GB kernel to get CWM link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289460
4. Then you can flash any custom ROM you want!! AOKP is a great choice Task650 is VERY solid.... GL link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
loki993 said:
No need really, I'm so used to running ASOP like ROMS on my other phones I probably wouldn't like it anyway. I was mostly just curious as it seems that with the base I'm currently on rooting is a little more involved. I was also wondering if Sammy had maybe patched something in the new build.
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Samsung and patched? Those two words should not be mentioned together, lol
Ok so I can just flash KH7 then. Is there any reason I would want to stay on KK6? If not im just going to flash KH7
I just flashed KH7
loki993 said:
Ok so I can just flash KH7 then. Is there any reason I would want to stay on KK6? If not im just going to flash KH7
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Nope.
loki993 said:
I just flashed KH7
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Cool, you flashed Gingerbread. wanna cookie?
Im on ICS.
patiently waiting jellybean.
MotoMudder77 said:
Cool, you flashed Gingerbread. wanna cookie?
Im on ICS.
patiently waiting jellybean.
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Wait wait wait remember what happens if u give a mouse a cookie...
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Phalanx7621 said:
Nicks right. But you'll be fine if u wanna try out stock ics. Just remember not to wipe data / factory reset with that kernel and.you're ggood to go. I installed it two days ago and ran it for a while. It worked fine but the battery drain was killing me. So I switched. Good luck, happy flashing.
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Speaking of battery which gives the best battery? I'm currently on siyah
MotoMudder77 said:
Cool, you flashed Gingerbread. wanna cookie?
Im on ICS.
patiently waiting jellybean.
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brandonarev said:
Wait wait wait remember what happens if u give a mouse a cookie...
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I just flashed it to get it rooted. Im on ICS now.
j510 said:
Speaking of battery which gives the best battery? I'm currently on siyah
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I personally love siyah kernel and think it gives excellent battery life with all the tweaks and the EXtweaks app. But I'm sure others would say fluxxi, and still others would say neak.
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Hello I'm basically trying to find android 2.3.6 for att galaxy s 2 pure stock not looking to flash any custom stuff as for me seems to make my phone worse my opinion. Also I do not like android 4 ics I have had to pull my battery out all week since I've updated, if u can please direct me to the 2.3.6 update that would be great. thank you
http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/
That's the link. On the top of the page in the search bar just type sgh-i777 and the stock down load will be at the bottom just flash it via Odin good luck
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benp02740 said:
Hello I'm basically trying to find android 2.3.6 for att galaxy s 2 pure stock not looking to flash any custom stuff as for me seems to make my phone worse my opinion. Also I do not like android 4 ics I have had to pull my battery out all week since I've updated, if u can please direct me to the 2.3.6 update that would be great. thank you
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There is no stock UCKK6 (2.3.6) but you can download and flash a Stock plus root version of UCKK6. See Entropy512's thread which is a sticky in the development forum.
...Or you can flash fully stock UCKH7 (2.3.4). See the link in my signature for the return to the store guide.
benp02740 said:
Hello I'm basically trying to find android 2.3.6 for att galaxy s 2 pure stock not looking to flash any custom stuff as for me seems to make my phone worse my opinion. Also I do not like android 4 ics I have had to pull my battery out all week since I've updated, if u can please direct me to the 2.3.6 update that would be great. thank you
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I will add this if you flashed UCLE5 via kies or any other method to get your ICS besides AJ's thread you have an unsafe kernel and possible eMMC SUPERBRICK BUG make sure you DON'T wipe data/factory reset before you flash this package do it after you flashed a safe GB kernel... If it were me knowing KK6 2.3.6 has battery drain issues I would flash KH7 2.3.4..... Just use creeys thread to get the files here is the link... GL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18859438&postcount=199 For KH7 stock or rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746181 Some info on the eMMC bug
sad
i flashed on of those and for some reason all i get is samsung galaxy s 2 screen i tryed getting into the stock recovery but it wont do anything just sits there tryed again with odin doing the samething any ideas.? thanks for the replies
Please post detailed information about what you have done so far. Need more info before we can help.
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Please post detailed information about what you have done so far. Need more info before we can help.
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i flashed I777UCKH7-REV02-home-low-CL503881.tar
that i had got from sammobile i didn't see the other post till now and i also upgraded to ics from kies i can get into download mode but when i try recovery i held power and volume rockers and it's suppose to flicker once it does not do this it just stays there
You can upgrade to the stock 2.3.6 by downloading the stock 2.3.4 firmware from the download repository here in our forums, then after you are booted into the operating system, go to settings, scroll all the way to the bottom to software update, and it will download and install 2.3.6. I wouldn't suggest it , just because I don't like it or think it runs well, but try it out. Good luck, happy flashing.
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im just gunna return it and get a new one with gingerbread i only had it for 14 days ,thanks for the help every one
sorry to bug yall again but they wouldn't take it back i was just wondering does cyanogen mod 7 have hardware acceleration srry im a bit weird and dont like ics lol
benp02740 said:
im just gunna return it and get a new one with gingerbread i only had it for 14 days ,thanks for the help every one
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Why didnt they take the phone back
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slim1991 said:
Why didnt they take the phone back
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I'm gonna guess they booted into download mode and checked the flash counter...
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benp02740 said:
sorry to bug yall again but they wouldn't take it back i was just wondering does cyanogen mod 7 have hardware acceleration srry im a bit weird and dont like ics lol
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Why would they not take it back?? You never flashed any custom ROMS from here right? All you did was flash the AT&T ICS update via kies and it gave you problems right? Knowing all that = true I will do all I can to help you (the only problem is I don't know anything) If you don't respond back in about an hour it's 6:30am now on the West coast I have to roll out for awhile. There are some cool people here that will help you. Just make sure you cross reference EVERYTHING...... Do all the reading you can, nobody can keep your phone safe but YOU. Here is a link to one of the best guides on here via the man Creepy <~~~ Koolest dude much respect!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18630030#post18630030 read it so you can understand a little better..... Don't do ANYTHING till you understand EVERYTHING
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627 Some more good info just read all you can.
1. What is the status of the phone now? (can it boot recovery or go in to download mode)
ever since i flashed the latest version of the Jb leak i have no wifi, any ideas on how to fix this?
It's impossible to fix I'm afraid. Your phone is now practically bricked.
Just kidding, flash a stock based sammy ics rom and you'll be good to go.
jonathanyong said:
It's impossible to fix I'm afraid. Your phone is now practically bricked.
Just kidding, flash a stock based sammy ics rom and you'll be good to go.
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i had my arse in my mouth then, is it a known issue, or have i done anything wrong?
Me too, no WiFi in cm 9 or cm 10.
It works only in stock Rom. (4.0.4 or in leaked Rom)
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i flashed cm10 from stock 4.0.4 and wifi is perfectly fine
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I used cm 10 without problem.
It happened after flashed the leaked Rom
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garethclement2009 said:
i had my arse in my mouth then, is it a known issue, or have i done anything wrong?
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Yes its a known issue. Flashing the leaked sammy JB rom seems to kill wifi in a funny way. Flash a sammy stock ics rom (or custom rom eg. wanam or omega) and your wifi will be fixed. You can then proceed to install JB AOSP or CM10 or whatever.
jonathanyong said:
Yes its a known issue. Flashing the leaked sammy JB rom seems to kill wifi in a funny way. Flash a sammy stock ics rom (or custom rom eg. wanam or omega) and your wifi will be fixed. You can then proceed to install JB AOSP or CM10 or whatever.
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i have no idea what any of them are lol
i flashed a JB Modem it's fine now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27354250&postcount=309
jason11 said:
i flashed a JB Modem it's fine now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27354250&postcount=309
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Would i need root for this?
garethclement2009 said:
Would i need root for this?
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if you don't have root or cwm revovery.
better flash your country official stock rom via odin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646610
or you can flash only modem (find correct modem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28033515#post28033515
Hi,
Please see here to see if this works for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847441
Hey guys I'm having some trouble flashing jb roms. It always freezes during the install. I'm currently on ics.
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I never flashed from ICS that I recall. However, you could Odin back to stock. Flash a good stable froyo and try to flash up from there.
I don't remember now if GB boot loader is 100% required but I have it on mine.
I'm getting ready to take an exam, if you haven't got it sorted before I return, I'll help you get running.
Thanks for the reply, I do have the gb bootloaders and I tried going back to stock and still no luck. I get a soft brick every time.
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Which ICS ROM are you coming from, and are you doing full wipe?
I had a chance to think about it, and I had trouble getting up to 4.1 the first time I tried. I ended up stepping up gradually.
Odin'd to stock then went up to bionic, skipped GB, went up to latest CM ICS I believe... Then from there onto JB. Been fine since.
Its been a while but that's best as my memory cares to serve me.
I don't think its a real common problem, but occasionally something doesn't jive somewhere.
Hi,
Its not necessary BUT it will always work Odin back to stock and continuing. Once I tried to flash ICZen from FROYO but no luck. Then I ODIN back to stock then CM7 in the middle and ICS on top of it and it WORKED. I have flashed GB bootloaders to get easy key mapping (Anyway u have to flash it if it is required by the ROM) I have flahed JB 4.2.2 Avatar ROM on top of ICZen which has worked for me. woody has a [Guide] How to install ICS **EVERYTHING you need to know how to install them** so you can get an idea Sometimes you have to flash the ROM twice b/c CWM updation
Always do a CLEAN flash (FULL wipe) before flashing a new ROM
Hope u would get JB ROM flashed successfully
tc
Flash it twice
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testomat said:
Flash it twice
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Yes, this is good advice.