Hi guys,
Does anybody knows where is the menu button in ICS... it looks it has 3 button, back, home and multitask...
I hope that the menu won't be in each app becasude that will mean no old app until huge upgrade...
They said the buttons change as you need then I'm sure a menu button will pop up if needed.
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odst0016 said:
They said the buttons change as you need then I'm sure a menu button will pop up if needed.
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Yes but I saw all the videos and sometimes 3 dots appear next to the multitask button but is not clear if that is the menu button or what it does. I think they should have left multitask to the longpress home and give us a menu button always there... It will be a pain in the ass for older apps and for cooking. For now this is a fail as for the absence of smart dialing
my questions is this -> will it be able to remove the on screen buttons and use the hardware ones for older phones?
I had the ask loaded and built am ICS emulator, I'll test on one of my apps this morning and report back.
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I would hope so...that would take up some much needed screen real estate on a smaller screen.
Just tried in the emulator and I had no buttons, I will have to look into updating my app for ICS.
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So my fears are real... no menu button for third party apps... that is so wrong
Right, a have to update the apps to show the buttons.
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So my fears are real... no menu button for third party apps... that is so wrong
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Nonono, the way it works (based on my understanding and playing with the 4.0 emulator) is this:
On a device with no hardware buttons (Galaxy Nexus):
Menu button shows up if the app has a menu (makes sense)
On a device with hardware buttons (most devices):
Soft keys don't show up, multitasking comes up by long-pressing home button (confirmed in emulator)
That's how it works I believe
The soft-keys don't show up in the emulator because it's emulating a device with hardware keys
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The one big UI change you could make to your apps to really take advantage of 4.0 is adding an Action Bar to your app (they demonstrated this in the Gmail app I believe).
No action would be needed to support regular menus though
What about the search button? I always use it. sigh.
And I'm guessing on older phones, they can access the multitask menu by holding down home?
Question - I installed the ICS SDK and was trying to tinker with it to make the soft buttons appear, but it's not happening. What settings do you use for an instance of the emulator to force the soft buttons to exist?
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Just tried in the emulator and I had no buttons, I will have to look into updating my app for ICS.
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How'd you get the emulator to show the soft buttons?
I have not figured out how to get the soft buttons to appear, the emulator still shows the hard buttons from previous versions.
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Yes but I saw all the videos and sometimes 3 dots appear next to the multitask button but is not clear if that is the menu button or what it does. I think they should have left multitask to the longpress home and give us a menu button always there... It will be a pain in the ass for older apps and for cooking. For now this is a fail as for the absence of smart dialing
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How? if older apps have Menu button functionality, the Menu button will appear. Not really that hard to understand.
they should do away with the menu button. i've personally found the best apps don't utilize it or utilize it very little. the more you have to dig into menus and settings the worse it is for user experience. if i recall, the new native google apps have the equivalent menu function in the top right corner. iOS apps essentially have the settings button in the same spot too. if ICS is all about UI and user experience, we need to see some consistency. for non-native android users, the menu button is not intuitive.
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does the soft keys have long press ?? if yes may be long press on multi task button gives u menus
Hey guys,
I guess this question is answered with this video ...
dipito31 said:
Hey guys,
I guess this question is answered with this video ...
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And what video might that be?
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they should do away with the menu button. i've personally found the best apps don't utilize it or utilize it very little. the more you have to dig into menus and settings the worse it is for user experience. if i recall, the new native google apps have the equivalent menu function in the top right corner. iOS apps essentially have the settings button in the same spot too. if ICS is all about UI and user experience, we need to see some consistency. for non-native android users, the menu button is not intuitive.
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Why should they do away with the menu button? Who cares if it's not intuitive for non-native Android users? Why take the menu button and all of the options that come with it away from the people who are smart enough to use it because some people aren't smart enough to use it? The people who don't know it's there wouldn't know any difference in the first place if it was done away with. The rest of us would.
Has anyone figured anything else out about this now that there are videos everywhere? I still haven't seen any evidence that the menu button exists. Google added the menu button to all of their apps, are all the other apps left out?
I've found many threads to remap buttons on devices, but I couldn't find any way to remap holding what the home button does.
I would like to change the search button to switching apps, instead of holding the home button. I've heard of APP_SWITCH, but that only shows recent apps (like gingerbread). I'm on a ICS rom and would like that functionality on the search button.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm looking for something like this for days now.
i now where i can change the function the search button is doing, but i have no idea to what i have to change that..
For someone with knowledge it shouldnt be hard to find out what a long home press is doing (script wise) and then we could just change the function of the search button..
I hope somebody with know how reads this, because its a great idea for, example the nexus s
I'm using the latest Omega v7.0.
Is there any possibility to remapp the menu button with the multitasking function? It's always a pain holding the homebutton down for many seconds and waiting until the multitasking interface will show up.
As the HTC One series I'd like to get some sort of menu buttons displayed on the screen if necerary.
C'mon guys anyone?
I wish someone can develop on this too... This is possibly the worst experience I have with my S3, the lack of multitask button.
*push again*
May be this can help you:
http://dottech.org/android/32033/how-to-changeremap-the-search-key-android/
The latest CM10 offers a feature to change the buttons functions, exactly what I've looked for. The thread my be closed now
Is there any way to make the overflow menu button show up in applications that support it?
The best I've found is a method called hasPermanentMenuKey() which I think I could force to "return false;". Problem? I don't know where to dive in to the android.view library.
It shows on my Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus, and even HTC One X - but not on my SGS3. I assume because the system detects it has a hardware menu key.
Is there a way to trick/tell/force the showing of the overflow menu button in supported applications?
I don't have a SGS3, but from what I've seen from pics on the interwebs, didn't the SGS3 have a capacitative menu button? AFAIK menu button always triggers overflow menu, or does it?
(sorry for off-topic)
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I don't have a SGS3, but from what I've seen from pics on the interwebs, didn't the SGS3 have a capacitative menu button? AFAIK menu button always triggers overflow menu, or does it?
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Yeah, it does, I should probably explain my use case...
Half of the reason is because I want some UI consistency between all my devices, my SGS3 is the only one where almost all apps I use on a regular basis behave differently (and sometimes even look differently) because of this lack of overflow menu button.
The other half is because I hate physical buttons and I remapped my sometimes-less-used Menu key to the physical button on the SGS3, and would like it if I could avoid the physical button *most* of the time by just using in-app menu buttons (if I ever figure out how to force them on).
If someone can figure this out and/or help me figure it out I will gladly donate to them. I want this feature badly.
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Yeah, it does, I should probably explain my use case...
Half of the reason is because I want some UI consistency between all my devices, my SGS3 is the only one where almost all apps I use on a regular basis behave differently (and sometimes even look differently) because of this lack of overflow menu button.
The other half is because I hate physical buttons and I remapped my sometimes-less-used Menu key to the physical button on the SGS3, and would like it if I could avoid the physical button *most* of the time by just using in-app menu buttons (if I ever figure out how to force them on).
If someone can figure this out and/or help me figure it out I will gladly donate to them. I want this feature badly.
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Oh now I get it, I guess I would also do the same in my apps for the sake of consistency. I don't know much about it, so I can't help much
Anyway, good luck on finding an answer
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Donating money to someone who can give me a solid lead on how to accomplish this, bigger donation for getting it done.
So I've done a search on Google and Xda about this topic and so far there doesn't seem to be much information on this except to find a thread about the inability of the android system in remapping of keys (or maybe the thread just went out of topic)
Thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1244702
So I'm wondering whether the remapping of the right click button to give a command 'Open Context Menu' is possible to immitate the function of a real computer (All these taking into consideration that it is also possible to remap buttons of the dock)
If you were to have it mimic the behavior of a real computer it wouldn't work. Android uses a right mouse button as if you were touching and holding on an object.
The only thing i would be interested in is remapping the second button the same as the primary button. Effectively having left click and left click.
Now it shouldn't be *that* hard to make a simple program to accomplish this, simply an extension to remap the buttons to whatever android specific task you want, this is already semi possible with the remapping of soft keys in CM 10.1/AOKP builds, so something like that should be possible.
Unfortunately i have no coding experience. I would love to see this done though
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No, today I search & found a solution - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55848773&postcount=7