Quick question... - HTC Amaze 4G

If we had a full source code, with WLAN drivers and all, would it be possible to create fully custom kernels and have functioning AOSP and other roms? The reason im asking is because ive never fully understood what is holding back development f custom roms/kernels. Thanks
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eggydrums said:
If we had a full source code, with WLAN drivers and all, would it be possible to create fully custom kernels and have functioning AOSP and other roms? The reason im asking is because ive never fully understood what is holding back development f custom roms/kernels. Thanks
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Yes sir, then even devs that don't have the device can build for it, like the aokp team, etc.

Dark Nightmare said:
Yes sir, then even devs that don't have the device can build for it, like the aokp team, etc.
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Thanks for clarifiying to tell you more, i was almost at the edge of selling my amaze for a nexus, but i dont want to lose faith in htc that they will make it happen for us
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eggydrums said:
Thanks for clarifiying to tell you more, i was almost at the edge of selling my amaze for a nexus, but i dont want to lose faith in htc that they will make it happen for us
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Unless you don't mind simple basic android, I think you should give it a bit more too, unlike the amaze, it's much harder for the nexus to get the pretty stuff other than AOSP android, amaze on the other hand would have the prettied sense version and once source is here, it's also gonna have alllll the aosp, aokp and what's not version to go along with it. So if you feel it's worth waiting a bit more to see if HTC comes through, I support you. :highfive:

Dark Nightmare said:
Unless you don't mind simple basic android, I think you should give it a bit more too, unlike the amaze, it's much harder for the nexus to get the pretty stuff other than AOSP android, amaze on the other hand would have the prettied sense version and once source is here, it's also gonna have alllll the aosp, aokp and what's not version to go along with it. So if you feel it's worth waiting a bit more to see if HTC comes through, I support you. :highfive:
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Yeah ver the internet five: lololol thanks!
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eggydrums said:
Yeah ver the internet five: lololol thanks!
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Lol better than being all solemn and boring.
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[PICS] Jellybean booting on ruby

Got jellybean booting just now.
Proof pics: https://plus.google.com/u/0/102710594547223731659/posts/HKkDrEQveZt
texasice said:
Got jellybean booting just now.
Proof pics: https://plus.google.com/u/0/102710594547223731659/posts/HKkDrEQveZt
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Link doesn't seem to want to work for me, but great work!
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Link doesn't seem to want to work for me, but great work!
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if its not working just click my profile and click the g+ link (i dont know how to embed pictures)
That is awesome!!!! Thank you so much texasice!!!!!!
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Will have my money ready for donation when this completed!
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Join the club Nice work though
Amazing
Hope all feature work well soon
Might not have too wait long for an official release.. according to http://tips4droid.com/list-of-att-v...-phones-that-will-get-android-4-1-jelly-bean/ we're going to see JB sometime in October
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Might not have too wait long for an official release.. according to http://tips4droid.com/list-of-att-v...-phones-that-will-get-android-4-1-jelly-bean/ we're going to see JB sometime in October
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This would be great, if they do announce it and keep their word.
ok when is it going to be fully functional, can you personally PM me with EVERY step in the process since I am so important and need to have my hand held every step of the way.
ETA ETA ETA
just getting that out of the way so everyone else can shut up and let you work
ericdjobs said:
Might not have too wait long for an official release.. according to http://tips4droid.com/list-of-att-v...-phones-that-will-get-android-4-1-jelly-bean/ we're going to see JB sometime in October
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It really shouldnt take them very long. google did a great job with jellybean. making it extremely compatible with all kinds of hardware. for ics we had to pull ~50 commits to frameworks from qcom to get display working. on jellybean...zero. it just works. no hacks required. google really outdid themselves this time. (also cudos to caf for releasing the display drivers same day!!) just took me 3 days to realize that yea they do work lol.
So in theory it shouldnt be too hard to get jellybean up and running on devices that have aosp 4.0. Correct?
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It really shouldnt take them very long. google did a great job with jellybean. making it extremely compatible with all kinds of hardware. for ics we had to pull ~50 commits to frameworks from qcom to get display working. on jellybean...zero. it just works. no hacks required. google really outdid themselves this time. (also cudos to caf for releasing the display drivers same day!!) just took me 3 days to realize that yea they do work lol.
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so your saying since google did that, it make it easier to get things working? if so, thats great!
Yea any device that already has ics should be pretty painless for the oem to upgrade to jellybean.
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Yea any device that already has ics should be pretty painless for the oem to upgrade to jellybean.
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Well that's sounds awesome man seriously I am looking for an aosp ROM that will take care of all my needs
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So will we get sense something else or how would that work? Also we on tmobile are waiting for source right, does that mean that we are now looking forward to jb source that is modified with sense?
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So will we get sense something else or how would that work? Also we on tmobile are waiting for source right, does that mean that we are now looking forward to jb source that is modified with sense?
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Could be because I think that sense 3.6 is garbage and 40 is way better lighter and more responsive or at lest by me using it it seemed like that. But if they do decide to do that I thing they should bring sense 4.0 to all capable devices
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i think once a fully working jb rom is up and a sense 4 the hard part is gonna be picking new version of sense (i love sense) or new version of android(off line voice typing and google now just way too cool)
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Kernel Source Useless?

I'm genuinely curious if this big kernel source drop is going to be beneficial to us or not. I've heard two sides to the story:
1. "HTC b trollin' man, they drop source and release a new kernel..."
2. Devs can use the old kernel and fix the issues that HTC fixed, along with the other issues AOSP ROMs were having like sound and MMS.
I have no idea what's going on, and I'm curious whether I should expect things to blow up here soon, or if this kernel source has been essentially useless. I'm generally unaware of how long it takes devs to pick apart the kernel code and utilize it. Any input from those with knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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PsiPhiDan said:
I'm genuinely curious if this big kernel source drop is going to be beneficial to us or not. I've heard two sides to the story:
1. "HTC b trollin' man, they drop source and release a new kernel..."
2. Devs can use the old kernel and fix the issues that HTC fixed, along with the other issues AOSP ROMs were having like sound and MMS.
I have no idea what's going on, and I'm curious whether I should expect things to blow up here soon, or if this kernel source has been essentially useless. I'm generally unaware of how long it takes devs to pick apart the kernel code and utilize it. Any input from those with knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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+1
Both are correct. It doesn't really help sense based Roms because sense kernels are going to be newer than source.
However, aosp roms can now be fully functional. Aosp is what many people on here care about and are waiting for.
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It's not useless for aosp, the problem is nobody is really working too much on aosp roms. There is a cm and MIUI port but they are a ways off and only so much one person can do..
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Rippley05 said:
It's not useless for aosp, the problem is nobody is really working too much on aosp roms. There is a cm and MIUI port but they are a ways off and only so much one person can do..
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This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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PsiPhiDan said:
This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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It still might, but I think I'm still somewhat jaded by the og evo and the support it had. The 3D never really had much, and it's looking like the lte is gonna be around the same.
I do think we'll eventually get some aosp goodness, just isn't hopping like I hoped it would be. I don't mean this as a slight to the devs we do have because they are great, all of them.
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PsiPhiDan said:
This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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It's only been a little over a month since the phone first came out. Give more people time to transition and we should start to see more activity. It isn't that bad so far, but most development is based around Sense because no one wants to wrestle with AOSP. Once they get AOSP stuff finished though, we'll be golden.
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It's only been a little over a month since the phone first came out. Give more people time to transition and we should start to see more activity. It isn't that bad so far, but most development is based around Sense because no one wants to wrestle with AOSP. Once they get AOSP stuff finished though, we'll be golden.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's true. In my head, I figured everyone would be working to get to that point as quick as possible once kernel source was released. Like a giant team project, haha. Instead, it appears that only a select few are tackling it. Even custom kernels seem to be a rare mention. Oh well, I'll continue to enjoy the Sense ROMs as much as I can until someone cracks the AOSP code.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah, I'm sure that's true. In my head, I figured everyone would be working to get to that point as quick as possible once kernel source was released. Like a giant team project, haha. Instead, it appears that only a select few are tackling it. Even custom kernels seem to be a rare mention. Oh well, I'll continue to enjoy the Sense ROMs as much as I can until someone cracks the AOSP code.
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We just need the support of the big guys. For some reason it feels like most of the big time devs haven't moved on to this phone yet, or went with Samsung instead. I know that Preludedrew is working on JB for our phone, I talked to him about it yesterday on Gtalk. Deck mentioned in IRC that he was working on it as well, I believe.
The kernel developers are hiding so far, probably because we don't have the big guys working for us yet. I'd love to see a Tiamat kernel, even if I'm personally not a fan of custom kernels.
Kernel.org is also down, so that's slowing things up for everyone.
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Rxpert said:
Kernel.org is also down, so that's slowing things up for everyone.
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I've been seeing this all over, but I can access the site and perform downloads just fine.
There's is (are) custom kernels out
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I'm actually happy with the stock kernel. It has a great balance of performance and battery life.Then again I prefer my kernels to be rock solid, as opposed to cutting edge with random reboots.
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I'm actually happy with the stock kernel. It has a great balance of performance and battery life.Then again I prefer my kernels to be rock solid, as opposed to cutting edge with random reboots.
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I always used custom kernels with EVO 4G and remember zero reboots due to kernel issues . Easy overclocking and underclocking, volume mods, performance increases while still improving battery life... Yes please!
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PsiPhiDan said:
This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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So far my experience with HTC phones have been a very disappointing one. Coming from the OG Epic, all I've kept hearing was how awesome the development for the OG EVO was. So of course when the EVO 3d came out it was my phone of choice over the Epic Touch. That was disappointment number one. Then when the LTE came out, I've noticed all the OG EVO developers and owners was all excited about this phone, so i decided to give HTC another chance. So for I've been more disappointed then at any point. The lack of ROMS, the pitifully performance of sense 4 and HTC's new stance on locking bootloader and sneaky updates with new Hboots was the last straw. What phone will I get next? Im not sure, but it won't be a HTC.
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shook187 said:
So far my experience with HTC phones have been a very disappointing one. Coming from the OG Epic, all I've kept hearing was how awesome the development for the OG EVO was. So of course when the EVO 3d came out it was my phone of choice over the Epic Touch. That was disappointment number one. Then when the LTE came out, I've noticed all the OG EVO developers and owners was all excited about this phone, so i decided to give HTC another chance. So for I've been more disappointed then at any point. The lack of ROMS, the pitifully performance of sense 4 and HTC's new stance on locking bootloader and sneaky updates with new Hboots was the last straw. What phone will I get next? Im not sure, but it won't be a HTC.
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We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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Rxpert said:
We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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I know what he means about ROMs... They're all more or less the same so far. Modified stock is great, but not what many are after when they think of development being great.
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Rxpert said:
We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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+1 on that. Seems like the other guy isn't to bright seeing as this phone is only a little over a month old
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PsiPhiDan said:
I know what he means about ROMs... They're all more or less the same so far. Modified stock is great, but not what many are after when they think of development being great.
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And aosp is in the works and has been since shortly after launch. These things take time.
If you check out the aosp threads, they all mention ongoing development.
We JUST got kernel source. Devs have day jobs, they do this in their free time
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Rxpert said:
And aosp is in the works and has been since shortly after launch. These things take time.
If you check out the aosp threads, they all mention ongoing development.
We JUST got kernel source. Devs have day jobs, they do this in their free time
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Oh I know that, and I no way meant to say the devs aren't doing great work. I just wanted to explain why he said there were not a lot of ROMs right now. I understand that statement, although there is plenty of reason for why that is.
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[Q] Is an AOSP based ROM possible at this point?

I'm wondering if there is anything holding back an AOSP build for the HOX+. I've read that it might be lack of kernel source, S-OFF, or a driver related issue. I've noticed a lot of Sense-based ROM's pop up lately and I was just curious if there's something we're waiting on before a AOSP ROM can be possible, or if it's just lack of development. I'm coming from a Gnex so I don't know a great deal about subsidized phone "hacking".
Lloir is currently working on CM10 and has said he expects it to be ready before the end of the year.
ah, that's great news. I hope us at&t users will get some loving as well.
I'm pretty sure he is making it for us AT&T users too.
Each time one of these threads pop up I shoot a puppy
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HA! =)
Lloir said:
Each time one of these threads pop up I shoot a puppy
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:laugh:
But just FYI
I just "arrived" now here coming from the One V
I have worked there together with Lloir to sucessfully make
CM9 and CM10 available for the One V
So you can expect that this "project" now gets some extra "boost"
having 2 people working on it.
And I really really really have the strong need to get rid of that Sense
stuff ASAP
That's awesome news Maxwen!
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:laugh:
But just FYI
I just "arrived" now here coming from the One V
I have worked there together with Lloir to sucessfully make
CM9 and CM10 available for the One V
So you can expect that this "project" now gets some extra "boost"
having 2 people working on it.
And I really really really have the strong need to get rid of that Sense
stuff ASAP
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I also hate the Sense. Thanks to both of you for contributing
It should be coming out soon. You don't need to have S-Off or kernal source for CM
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It should be coming out soon. You don't need to have S-Off or kernal source for CM
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we know
Lloir said:
Each time one of these threads pop up I shoot a puppy
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Well, at least the kittens are safe!
arminyack said:
Well, at least the kittens are safe!
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no i take out 2 kittens each time someone post's in a thread about AOSP or CM10
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no i take out 2 kittens each time someone post's in a thread about AOSP or CM10
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Perfect..I hate kittens..I'm allergic...keep posting people...lol.
people need to stop making these threads every day about developers..relax people..it will come soon.

Pure AOSP Rom?

Is there a pure AOSP rom out there or nearly pure made to work with the DNA?
Short answer: Nope
Long answer: You are more than welcome to look through the Development thread. There are only a dozen or so Roms so it shouldn't take you too long
Longer answer: CM10.1 is in the works but I'm not sure its at daily driver status yet.
Sorry for the sarcasm...
Memnoch73 said:
Short answer: Nope
Long answer: You are more than welcome to look through the Development thread. There are only a dozen or so Roms so it shouldn't take you too long
Longer answer: CM10.1 is in the works but I'm not sure its at daily driver status yet.
Sorry for the sarcasm...
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Lol your longer answer wasshorter than the long answer
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Cm 10.1 is working except for camera iirc.
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Cm 10.1 is working except for camera iirc.
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Yep. It's almost there. As soon as the camera is working I would consider it dd status
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I've been using CM 10.1 for my dd for a little over a week and have had no issues other than the lack of camera and an easily removed issue with GPS.
I'm no developer, but from my experience with the LG Spectrum, once CM has all of the hardware functioning, then AOSP and AOKP are not terribly difficult. In the case of the spectrum, a fully functional pacman ROM was released a few months after CM was completed.
Question of my own. What exactly needs to be done to gain official support for CM? I would love to be able to flash nightlies like on my nexus 7.
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Cm is not pure aosp.
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I've been using CM 10.1 for my dd for a little over a week and have had no issues other than the lack of camera and an easily removed issue with GPS.
I'm no developer, but from my experience with the LG Spectrum, once CM has all of the hardware functioning, then AOSP and AOKP are not terribly difficult. In the case of the spectrum, a fully functional pacman ROM was released a few months after CM was completed.
Question of my own. What exactly needs to be done to gain official support for CM? I would love to be able to flash nightlies like on my nexus 7.
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I've been using it as dd off and on. It's good enough for me to use it a few days a week for now. I really hope development picks up after cm10 is ready. I feel like not enough developers have this phone for there to be a lot of support. Idk if devs actually need the phone to make ROMs for it though.
Regardless, Chad, cr, fly, and the other devs working on cm have done a spectacular job. If we have a cm ROM, aokp, and pa I will be ecstatic.
Is there any point in having a 100% pure aosp ROM?
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Cm is not pure aosp.
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I'm aware. But it is close, so once CM is achieved, it wouldn't be too hard to get AOSP. Or at least that is how it was explained to me.
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I'm aware. But it is close, so once CM is achieved, it wouldn't be too hard to get AOSP. Or at least that is how it was explained to me.
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Why? Cm is aosp with fixes and more options. It's literally better.
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123421342 said:
Why? Cm is aosp with fixes and more options. It's literally better.
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I agree, but some people prefer just plain AOSP. My girlfriend is that way.
Wish that would port paradroid...would be nasty on this phone..
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I agree, but some people prefer just plain AOSP. My girlfriend is that way.
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But it IS AOSP. Even so, how can someone prefer less options? Not even that, how can someone prefer a worse experience?
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But it IS AOSP. Even so, how can someone prefer less options? Not even that, how can someone prefer a worse experience?
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Because everyone is different...
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But it IS AOSP. Even so, how can someone prefer less options? Not even that, how can someone prefer a worse experience?
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i don't want all the crap themeing and "mods" that come with CM, I just want pure android, if I want to add something ill do it myself.
I've contemplated back and forth for some time whether I want to build AOSP for the DNA. The camera really has been a PITA for another device I've been working on; It shouldn't be as camera works on CM10.1. However, it would suck to put all that work into it for the camera to be the hold up (although, I don't think it will be as difficult since its 8mp and the one I have somewhat working is 13mp).
The main issue is that if I build AOSP (well technically I have already built it), I would prefer to stick to google's base code as much as possible without bringing in CAF/CM code to achieve goals. Doing this, makes things a bit more difficult.
I suppose it's also a bit of whether it is worth the effort and if people really want it as well.
drewX2 said:
I've contemplated back and forth for some time whether I want to build AOSP for the DNA. The camera really has been a PITA for another device I've been working on; It shouldn't be as camera works on CM10.1. However, it would suck to put all that work into it for the camera to be the hold up (although, I don't think it will be as difficult since its 8mp and the one I have somewhat working is 13mp).
The main issue is that if I build AOSP (well technically I have already built it), I would prefer to stick to google's base code as much as possible without bringing in CAF/CM code to achieve goals. Doing this, makes things a bit more difficult.
I suppose it's also a bit of whether it is worth the effort and if people really want it as well.
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Iam sure people will want goodies from you, drew.
Just put your stuff in front of public and see how people gobble them up :fingers-crossed:
I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!
CM, AOSP ... it's all gravy.. they'll get it.. all of it.. in time.. They have made enormous stride with CM 10.1 it's almost unbelievable what they've accomplished.. DD for me.. because from here on out, it's all fixes and tweaks.. I wouldn't mind a pure Vanilla AOSP rom, but these things take time.. We'll get there.. Not just yet.. but I'm sure things are cooking now that many of the issues have been fixed..

[Q] I don't get it: Fixed 3D ?

So it seems there is that Chinese Rom with Sense 4.1 and working 3D, this is amazing, however, it is the only one of it's type.
The fact that HTC did not release the Driver Sources made me somehow hate them and it was the reason why many bugy couldnt be fixed, many devs left.
So, this Chinese Rom is removed because it is not allowed according to the rules, but... why exactly?
Could someone please post information on this story, really, this is EXTREMELY important, it could change our 3volife
Is it because it's a Viper fix, why then don't they release the fix?
So, the simple question is:
What's the fuzz about the 3D-fix? Somehow no one knows whats going on!
I'm gonna make it as brief as possible.
We can't release it on XDA or link to it because it is considered kang. The ROM is based off of a Viper3D build and was used without permission. Now unless Team Venom gives us permission to release their ROM with working 3D here on XDA, we can't do it because then that's kanging someone else's work, and that's highly frowned upon here, and leads to heavy infractions
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I can not understand how is it possible that only one team is capable to make 3D work. Why can not someone else make it from the basis without their rom?
B3!CrAZy said:
I can not understand how is it possible that only one team is capable to make 3D work. Why can not someone else make it from the basis without their rom?
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I am pretty sure coolexe or anryl or mwakious could do it if they have time
Somebody could definitely do it, but it would be a very hard thing to do since HTC doesn't hand out their 3D drivers. That team who got it working guaranteed was working for weeks and weeks on end getting it working, somebody here could do it for sure, but nobody has tried yet, and its probably something that's more trouble than its worth. Even if we looked at what that team did to get it working we can't use any of that, or even copy any of that because then it would still be kanging their work. Its something we either A) need to get permission for or B) take care of ourselves, but have that be 10000x harder. Its not impossible, but it is improbable
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This is ridiculous in my opinion.
I'll probably get flamed but the whole purpose of android being open source is so anyone and everyone can contribute and make it a better experience.
I understand the HTC drivers are proprietary, but in my eyes, if you've made something better why not share it with the world...are these 'team' members making money on these fixes, are they coming out with their own proprietary phones...that's the only reason I can see to necessitate keeping these fixes to yourself...yes I applaud any ROM dev for their work (I sure as hell couldn't do what they do) but what's the point in the end? Bragging rights? Come on!
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hossman said:
This is ridiculous in my opinion.
I'll probably get flamed but the whole purpose of android being open source is so anyone and everyone can contribute and make it a better experience.
I understand the HTC drivers are proprietary, but in my eyes, if you've made something better why not share it with the world...are these 'team' members making money on these fixes, are they coming out with their own proprietary phones...that's the only reason I can see to necessitate keeping these fixes to yourself...yes I applaud any ROM dev for their work (I sure as hell couldn't do what they do) but what's the point in the end? Bragging rights? Come on!
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Amen to that
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kajoshin201095 said:
So it seems there is that Chinese Rom with Sense 4.1 and working 3D, this is amazing, however, it is the only one of it's type.
The fact that HTC did not release the Driver Sources made me somehow hate them and it was the reason why many bugy couldnt be fixed, many devs left.
So, this Chinese Rom is removed because it is not allowed according to the rules, but... why exactly?
Could someone please post information on this story, really, this is EXTREMELY important, it could change our 3volife
Is it because it's a Viper fix, why then don't they release the fix?
So, the simple question is:
What's the fuzz about the 3D-fix? Somehow no one knows whats going on!
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Android is open source, you changed is the exclusive copyright? This is not unreasonable.
If anyone need help, you can email me
The rules centered around this are not android related. It has nothing to do with open source, they're xda's rules. It makes sense why they're there (that way we don't see the same exact ROM under a different name pop up every 20 minutes, etc.). I don't like the rule either but hey, its just something we gotta live with
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I think that we could do an exception for 3D in 4.1 sense...
http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...1-0-0-full-3d-beats-audio-high-quality-3.html
elitman said:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...1-0-0-full-3d-beats-audio-high-quality-3.html
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CDMA????
SketchyStunts said:
CDMA????
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it is a german forum. So it is probably GSM. I gonna try it now. (With my GSM-device)
Gonna be quite honest, hit up that link while you can because it ain't gonna be there for long
SketchyStunts said:
CDMA????
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GSM - working like a charm. Using the 2.0 version. Aroma is in Germany but pretty understandable.
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Sieht gut aus, heruntergeladen! I'll probably tear the rom apart and see about making it CDMA worthy, though I won't be able to share it once I'm done being it's Kang'ed...
elitman said:
GSM - working like a charm. Using the 2.0 version. Aroma is in Germany but pretty understandable.
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Is Sense scroll lagging for you?
I'm asking this coz had no problems at all with the original chinese ROM, but after flashing this one got lags during Sense pages scrolling
thesniffer said:
Is Sense scroll lagging for you?
I'm asking this coz had no problems at all with the original chinese ROM, but after flashing this one got lags during Sense pages scrolling
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No lags at all. What I experienced was huge battery drain. So, right now, I oam in the process of reverting back to stock ROM. Tired of all these tests. Gonna get SIII tomorrow anyway
So we have fixed 3D camera now? ICS or JB?
Don't seem to see a straight answer. Only that it is using venom tweaks without perms..?
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Lothaen said:
So we have fixed 3D camera now? ICS or JB?
Don't seem to see a straight answer. Only that it is using venom tweaks without perms..?
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Well, we do have full 3D working on a ICS Sense 4.1 ROM

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