So are three buttons here to stay or is there a chance phones in the future will go back to having four capacitive touch buttons ie Epic Touch, Evo, 3D, etc?
Samsung has been using the 3button combination since the first Galaxy S and probably even before.
So you can't really say it's new, rather is something different.
When the S1 was released, most other Android phones used crammed-together 4 touch-buttons, Samsung's easy 2 touch, 1 hardware button was an awesome and easy-to-use feature.
Nowadays with Android 4.0, Google is trying to eradicate hardware buttons but Samsung still managed to include them. I honestly prefer it that way.
I prefer 4 plus I love having a search button!
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Galaxy S2 has 4 buttons.
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When talking about Galaxy phones without appendix and in the General section, I usually assume the international version.
The international S2 has 2 touch-buttons and one click-button, the US-version has 4 touch-buttons and no click-button.
As usual, US-carriers want their own special stuff...
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I prefer 4 plus I love having a search button!
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Just long press menu button and surprise... it opens google search!!!
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Just long press menu button and surprise... it opens google search!!!
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I'm a lazy American lol... Long press takes too much effort lol
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I was thinking about what ICS would look like on our phones.
I understand how the 3 buttons work for the galaxy nexus. There are no 4 buttons like on every other android phone to navigate. How will our phone get the update and what will it look like?
(when i say softkeys, i am referring to the 4 standard keys on android phones. I dont care if it is not the right term)
Will they just ignore the softkey buttons on our phones and put the three from ICS on the phone? This will really reduce usable screen size.
Will Samsung do away with the three buttons from ICS on phones that have the soft key buttons?
Will manufacturers have to make 2 versions of ICS? One for phones with softkeys and one for phones without?
Do you think that new phones coming out with ICS will have softkeys that are similar to the galaxy nexus on screen keys, or will they make all future phones like the nexus with no softkeys and just on screen keys?
I guess it all comes down to how Samsung wants to skin it. What do you think they will do with phones with the 4 standard keys?
I assume ICS will have an option built-in to disable software buttons.
It's more likely that ICS programs will just have to be more device aware than programs have been previously. All Gingerbread programs can be expected to work, and the softkey area will just display the standard keys. ICS enabled programs will need to support the standard keys (home, back, menu), or, in the case that a program is running on a native ICS phone (with the softkey screen area), the program will be able to dictate what shows up in that screen area, whether it be a modified keyset, or an extension of the program itself.
I am sure they have it figured since I read that the older nexus s will be the FIRST to get it as far as older phones go and I believe it has the three/ or four softkeys on it right? So if that is the case I am not too worried about it not working on our devices as I would BET it is planned in the grand scheme of things.
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people are getting way to hung up on these ICS soft keys. If the Nexus S is getting ICS, Im sure that any phone that has capacitive keys will have the on screen keys disabled. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Why would Google go with on-screen keys? Whats the benefit? What happens to those that want to use 3.5 - 4.0 inches screen. How would that work. To me its a step backwards. Hopefully manufacturers will keep the soft keys we came to love about android, no ugly menu button on the screen like iOS completely ruining you screen real-estate.
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I am more then sure that Google has already thought of how to get around all these issues when ICS was placed in development.
Remember the Nexus One & Nexus S (S 4G) all have four buttons on the phone as well. Google wouldn't release a new OS version and cripple every phone out there with 4 buttons.
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people are getting way to hung up on these ICS soft keys. If the Nexus S is getting ICS, Im sure that any phone that has capacitive keys will have the on screen keys disabled. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
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Phandroid just picked up a Gizmodo article confirming that devices with hardware buttons will operate as they do now, and the on screen buttons will be disabled.
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/25/yes-your-android-buttons-will-still-work-with-ice-cream-sandwich/
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i Agreed and believe the same thing Google wouldn't put out something that would cripple all there other phones
Just saw this on Engadget thought I'd share.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/08/att-galaxy-note-confirmed-at-ces/
Edit 1: I'm sure almost everyone has seen this but thought I'd add it to the OP. But it passed through the FCC. Also I will update when I see anything on the release date, definite specs and pricing.
http://m.engadget.com/default/article.do?artUrl=http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/20/samsung-galaxy-note-for-atandt-passes-through-the-fcc/&category=classic&postPage=1
Edit 2: Several sites have claimed that there was a leaked AT&T road-map showing a release date and price. They say the possible release date to be February 18th for $300. Hope it's true! And here is a link over to android community and bgr. Thank you bigmout for bringing bgr to my attention.
http://androidcommunity.com/att-galaxy-note-rumors-point-to-february-18th-for-299-20120125/
http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/25/atts-q1-2012-roadmap-samsung-galaxy-note-rugby-smart-and-att-fusion-launching-feb-18/
Edit 3: NFC Support has been confirm for AT&T version by Samsung! Here's a link over to engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/samsung-dissects-galaxy-note-confirms-nfc-support-for-lte-versi/
Edit 4: We have an official release date and price February 19th for $299. With preorders starting the 5th. And here's the link to engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/30/samsung-galaxy-note-att/
Edit 5: The source code has been released!! And here is a link over Android Community.
http://androidcommunity.com/att-samsung-galaxy-note-source-code-released-20120201/
Edit 6: Pre-ordering has begun ordering mine in the "morning"!! Also I added a pole to see what color everyone is getting!
http://www.androidauthority.com/att-galaxy-note-confirmed-42585/ there it is too. And theres no lte icon! Yes there is hope. It seems like an h+ icon. Anyone confirm? Or someone there lol.
I really hope so! I've been thinking about buying the international version, because I want exynos
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I really hope so! I've been thinking about buying the international version, because I want exynos
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For me it would be fine if ut had the s3, but it would have to ship with ics. Without ics, the s3 will suck, with not as much android developers wanting a 2.3 device when most phones coming out with ics in a month.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/att-galaxy-note-confirmed-42585/ there it is too. And theres no lte icon! Yes there is hope. It seems like an h+ icon. Anyone confirm? Or someone there lol.
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Awesome! Got my fingers crossed! And I agree s3 with ICS wouldn't be bad at all. Though a 4212 with LTE and ICS would be nice...
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Awesome! Got my fingers crossed! And I agree s3 with ICS wouldn't be bad at all. Though a 4212 with LTE and ICS would be nice...
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Ooohhhh yea. Ics idea is far out, but still its a possibility.
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Ooohhhh yea. Ics idea is far out, but still its a possibility.
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Haha yeah just a bit. One can only hope. But hopefully all the info on it will come tomorrow.
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Haha yeah just a bit. One can only hope. But hopefully all the info on it will come tomorrow.
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Ill be at school checking haha.
That's good AT&T is getting it but I think I'll give up LTE for the physical button. And I'm sure they'll cut corners where they can and leave something out like usual.
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That's good AT&T is getting it but I think I'll give up LTE for the physical button. And I'm sure they'll cut corners where they can and leave something out like usual.
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They may leave something out, but with their latest phones theyve actually been smart. And we still have no confirmation if it is lte, but it def will not have the button. Too bad, the button looks cool. I just hope it has the exynos somehow.
looks like it has 4 control buttons on the bottom . . .
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looks like it has 4 control buttons on the bottom . . .
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They need/want a hard one
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They need/want a hard one
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Whow man lol just kidding. I necissarily (sorry typing fast) dont care, i just want either ics or the exynos lol.
Exactly no one will really care all that much if it has a physical button or not. Yes it defintely looks cool and I'd honestly prefer it but the search button is nice in some cases each way I'm sure has an advantage. As for me it also boils down to hoping for ICS and exynos. Though I'm getting the phone regardless of what's in it I want the note because of what it does and being somewhat unique.
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For me it would be fine if ut had the s3, but it would have to ship with ics. Without ics, the s3 will suck, with not as much android developers wanting a 2.3 device when most phones coming out with ics in a month.
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Would ICS fix the lag that the S3 is supposedly to have during games and such? Sorry I've been researching betwen the OGs2 and the skyrocket and everyone seems to say the ogs2 is better because of the lag on the skyrocket and worse performance in gaming.
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Would ICS fix the lag that the S3 is supposedly to have during games and such? Sorry I've been researching betwen the OGs2 and the skyrocket and everyone seems to say the ogs2 is better because of the lag on the skyrocket and worse performance in gaming.
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From what I've noticed on my captivate it has given a performance boost and is way smoother than GB. Also while the S3 is slightly slower then the exynos the true difference in speed is a lot of the time exaggerated. I believe with ICS it'll be amazing but even just GB S3 performance will be fine and hopefully an update will roll out quickly.
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Exactly no one will really care all that much if it has a physical button or not. Yes it defintely looks cool and I'd honestly prefer it but the search button is nice in some cases each way I'm sure has an advantage. As for me it also boils down to hoping for ICS and exynos. Though I'm getting the phone regardless of what's in it I want the note because of what it does and being somewhat unique.
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Actually many people will care a lot that it doesn't have a physical home button. I won't be getting one because of that (unless they somehow manage to implement LTE without losing the Exynos processor) because it is SOOO much easier to wake the phone with a physical home button than to hunt for the power button on the side, then push the power button and half the time the volume goes up or down since the dumbasses put the volume rocker directly opposite it. I have an app that puts a power-off in the notification menu, btw.
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Actually many people will care a lot that it doesn't have a physical home button. I won't be getting one because of that (unless they somehow manage to implement LTE without losing the Exynos processor) because it is SOOO much easier to wake the phone with a physical home button than to hunt for the power button on the side, then push the power button and half the time the volume goes up or down since the dumbasses put the volume rocker directly opposite it. I have an app that puts a power-off in the notification menu, btw.
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I don't blame you. The design is screwed up with the placement of the power button.
It would be a HUGE mistake. Only people who have used these know. You would not believe how hard it is to used that side button. Not only that, but it's placement makes its IMPOSSIBLE to use without hitting the volume button.
I'm not sure if I can deal with this. Maybe, maybe not. But I can tell you this for sure:
All HELL will break loose if this is the case, after people realize what the issue is. THis forum is going to be crazy with complaints.
But this phone is better than anything if you use the s-pen. I mean, WAY better than anything. It's like a mini Tablet-PC. It's gotta be the coolest and well designed gadget this year...really. If they nix the button it's ATT's fault, and not Samsung's design.
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Actually many people will care a lot that it doesn't have a physical home button. I won't be getting one because of that (unless they somehow manage to implement LTE without losing the Exynos processor) because it is SOOO much easier to wake the phone with a physical home button than to hunt for the power button on the side, then push the power button and half the time the volume goes up or down since the dumbasses put the volume rocker directly opposite it.
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That's an objective design flaw I hadn't considered. Bummer...
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I have an app that puts a power-off in the notification menu, btw.
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You may already know this, but there are apps that allow you to turn off the screen with a long press of a capacitive button.
What is the app that someone has to do a power off from the notification menu. I totally agree that having to power off from the side is a pain and I am always changing the volume.
I just returned my HTC One S under buyer's remorse for a number of reasons. One of them was how much screen I lost for apps that weren't updated for ICS on-screen menu button. I know this isn't HTC's fault, but it was a real bummer. I am thinking Samsung made a much better choice with the GS3 by going against Google's intent and including the menu button. Surprised this hasn't been discussed more. Am I missing something?
We have always had the menu button so dont need to discuss it .SGS1 2 3
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I just returned my HTC One S under buyer's remorse for a number of reasons. One of them was how much screen I lost for apps that weren't updated for ICS on-screen menu button. I know this isn't HTC's fault, but it was a real bummer. I am thinking Samsung made a much better choice with the GS3 by going against Google's intent and including the menu button. Surprised this hasn't been discussed more. Am I missing something?
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Yaa I feel the same, that's smthing I hate about vanilla ICS, the onscreen buttons.
Btw how was one s. I had it in my mind before getting s3.
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There is a mod in HTC one x section where you can remap the keys.
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Well HTCs new firmware which is due any moment maybe next week resolves this by allowing users to select what the recent apps button does. No need for any mods on this base.
I've got it running on the HOX and works fine so far. You can replace it to a menu function and long press for recent apps.
Anyways, I miss the home button which is good for waking the phone up.
Personally, I could go either way. I don't mind the home button; actually I think it could be a plus, considering if the OS were to ever freeze, you still have the button. Being an engineer, I can value you that. What would disgusting is the home button and the on screen buttons; either or, not both.
I do some side Android App developing and so much time with AOSP that it is very difficult for me to go from my Galaxy Nexus (with the appropriate menu/button configuration) and taking a step back to the Note II (which I have not done yet) in this one area. I think it may just be a serious case of OCD? I don't know.
How do you guys feel about this? I -assume- most came from a device that already had the old hardware menu button. So it's probably not a big deal.... just curious.
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I do some side Android App developing and so much time with AOSP that it is very difficult for me to go from my Galaxy Nexus (with the appropriate menu/button configuration) and taking a step back to the Note II (which I have not done yet) in this one area. I think it may just be a serious case of OCD? I don't know.
How do you guys feel about this? I -assume- most came from a device that already had the old hardware menu button. So it's probably not a big deal.... just curious.
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I came from quite a few previous phones with a Hardware Menu/Settings button. Then I went to the DNA which is like the Gnex and doesn't have that button. I couldn't stand not having the actual button. So I'm sure it'll be the same way for you off the bat. However I do know that you can turn on the nav bar on the GNII. So you might be able to turn that on a rock it that way. It's a great phone. Don't let the menu button discourage ya.
I need an extra push, I'm hoping to find it here.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S2. There are two things I will have to live without, can anyone tell me if I should be worried?
1. The lack of a menu and search button.
2. Not having the ability to take out the battery.
On another note, I was wondering if someone could confirm if it's possible to remove the HTC Sense? The first thing I plan on doing is rooting it and removing basically any software HTC and AT&T add. One other question.. does anyone know if the IR can be setup to use custom commands, or if that's something we have to wait for developers?
I don't have much to add on here except the search button is so two years ago. No need to have that button there with the advent of long pressing and double tapping.
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The one is probably awesome, but since you have a s2,you might check out the s4
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The one is probably awesome, but since you have a s2,you might check out the s4
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Most people that cry about batteries are usually closet Samsung fanboys. The ability to "take out the battery" is a bit overrated. Sorry but I don't have any need to add a brick to the back of my phone just so I can show off some "amazing battery stats"
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I don't have much to add on here except the search button is so two years ago. No need to have that button there with the advent of long pressing and double tapping
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Actually it's nice to have a search button where if I'm in the app drawer I can tap that and search for an app. Or if I'm on the home screen it opens google now. Or on a browser, it's a quick search button. You get the idea. What's the alternative now? How do you open Google Now or search for apps quickly?
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I hate the way the S4 looks, and the S3. The huge rounded corners are a big turn off. I would end up getting that if I can't put up with the limitations the one has to offer.
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Most people that cry about batteries are usually closet Samsung fanboys. The ability to "take out the battery" is a bit overrated. Sorry but I don't have any need to add a brick to the back of my phone just so I can show off some "amazing battery stats"
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Actually, I don't care about that.. I can optimize android to get what I need out of it. But I do like the ability to replace it if it dies or degrades in performance in a year from now, or say.. my phone is frozen, taking out the battery is often the fastest way to turn the damn thing off. Most of my stuff is in the cloud now, so I don't see me needing to replace my SD card. But it has occationally come in handy when I want to just pop it into my laptop to transfer some large files. I'm going to miss that.
I'm usually a Samsung guy but the one is amazing. We complain about the battery being no good over time and needing the ability to swap out. However, we get the next best thing after a year or so of use then sell the current device. The one is good. I haven't even rooted yet. I can wait until we get a stock RUU.
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Actually, I don't care about that.. I can optimize android to get what I need out of it. But I do like the ability to replace it if it dies or degrades in performance in a year from now, or say.. my phone is frozen, taking out the battery is often the fastest way to turn the damn thing off. Most of my stuff is in the cloud now, so I don't see me needing to replace my SD card. But it has occationally come in handy when I want to just pop it into my laptop to transfer some large files. I'm going to miss that.
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If I have any issues with the battery I am calling Squaretrade and getting a replacement. That's the great thing about having insurance even though I am not even sure If I will be using this device for the full 2 years. Also, if you hold the power button down for 10 seconds its just like pulling the battery, but much faster.
I came from having a Galaxy SIII on Verizon, switched to ATT with a Galaxy SII Skyrocket and am now a happy camper with my One. The biggest hurdle was getting over not having the same capacitive buttons and how much faster the One is.
By no means am I a heavy user but I am sitting here with 60% battery going on just over 8 hours.
Lol I love being to put a beastly 7000 mah battery in my phone to get 3 days of battery. But if I can't, it isn't that big of a deal. Btw I'm not a Samsung fan boy, I'm a fan of whatever is the best.
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XGhozt said:
I need an extra push, I'm hoping to find it here.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S2. There are two things I will have to live without, can anyone tell me if I should be worried?
1. The lack of a menu and search button.
2. Not having the ability to take out the battery.
On another note, I was wondering if someone could confirm if it's possible to remove the HTC Sense? The first thing I plan on doing is rooting it and removing basically any software HTC and AT&T add. One other question.. does anyone know if the IR can be setup to use custom commands, or if that's something we have to wait for developers?
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On a custom rom you can map the other buttons to do a menu and maybe even a search (I'm not sure)
Holding power+vol up and down simulates pulling the battery
Right now there is not a way to remove sense, you can use 3rd party launchers for now. They are working on pure android ROMs and development will be GREAT on this device. I have owned a S2 and played with the One and the One is SWEET. (I'm still waiting for my black to arrive). I have a HTC One XL and think it is MUCH better than my S2. Just get it, You will love it. Or wait for development to grow a little to give you all those features