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i had a sgs but just broke it with water dmg 2 months ago was great aside from battery life and gps and of course that horrible lag
tried many mods darky , doc , miui ... etc with different lagfix , kernel ext3 . ext4 .. etc but still the device lags alot , the best was miui glitch minimum lag but still the lag is there
i used nexus one with 2.3 and even HD2 with 2.2 and compared them to my phone ... loading games i load them like 1.5~2 x faster than both but while in menu , exiting apps , switching between apps and opining apps both devices do these things much faster and they dont lag at all while mine lags in everything and the same issue with my other friend sgs while sgs2 shows that its faster than both phones
now i want to buy a new phone and thinking about the sgs2 but i dont want to fall in the same mistake and end up with a laggy phone
so what do u think of sgs2 , does it lag much ? or it doesnt lag at all? does it have any lag issue ?
i want you to tell me honestly and excuse my poor English
PS : I 'm not comparing them to how IOS is , i know how fast is iOS but i'm not looking to buy any IPHONE cus i want an android
The word 'Lag' is a relative one. If you are coming from those devices then you won't notice any, but iPhone users have some trouble getting in, iOS is silky smooth, can't say the exact same for Android.
Remember, I am not a fan of either.
Regards.
Every piece of hardware in the world will have software lag on it occassionaly, at least. My experience is that this blows all over my HD2 with every ROM I had on there, and I tried a LOT of different builds on that.
Seriously, if you've had a HD2 running Android faster than your SGS2 then there's either some bad software involved or you've got a faulty device. The difference is more than obvious.
what i meant with lag that the phone get stuck and wont accept commands
i have been android user the for more than a year now , never bought any iphone
but compairing my sgs to hd2 and nexus 1 its the laggiest no mater what u do with it
nexus 1 and hd 2 were very smooth and dont lag when installing more than one up
my sgs lags while downloading a single up and nearly freeze while installing it , cant even brows contact smoothly while installing an app unlike hd2 and nexus 1
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Every piece of hardware in the world will have software lag on it occassionaly, at least. My experience is that this blows all over my HD2 with every ROM I had on there, and I tried a LOT of different builds on that.
Seriously, if you've had a HD2 running Android faster than your SGS2 then there's either some bad software involved or you've got a faulty device. The difference is more than obvious.
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talking about hd2 vs sgs 1 not 2
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talking about hd2 vs sgs 1 not 2
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So you're actually saying that a HD2 running Android is faster than the SGS, but not faster than the SGS2?
Edit: Sorry, I just reread your first post. I see what you're saying now. So basically, you've not got the SGS2, but you've had the SGS and wonder if it's that much better? In that case, I'm out, since I've never even played with the original SGS. All I can say is the the SGS2 is faster and smoother than anything I ever had running on my HD2, and I generally stuck to Nexus builds because I prefer the original stock Android experience.
Coming from an iPhone, I would say the S2 is on par as far as homescreen "lag" goes. As for not accepting commands, the only time I have had this happen is if I lock the phone using setCPU . Other than that, the phone is FAST. I don't notice any lag at all, and most apps launch just about instantly.
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So you're actually saying that a HD2 running Android is faster than the SGS, but not faster than the SGS2?
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i dont have a sgs2 and thats why i'm asking about it before i buy it
and i did compare my sgs1 2.3 darky 10 ext4 wiped to my friends hd2 2.2 mine lags in menu and while installing but its faster when it come to loading games by 1.5~2x times
his never lags while doing anything just smooth
There are small micro jitters here and there with andriod OS, not a smooth as iOS.
Barely any lag in normal use in things like web surfing and using the interface.
But I get extreme lag using BBC Iplayer(Not the app) in HD or any other video source that is in HD excluding youtube. The video lags and the sound it out of sync. Pretty much unwatchable.
I know that these videos aren't optimised for use on a mobile but it would have been nice if they didn't lag.
Apart from that, all other videos are fine.
Silky smooth here, underclocked to 1000GHZ. Had a sgs and it drove me maaaaaaaad!
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Why does everyone think ios is extreme fast?
Even my sgs loads apps quiker than my iphone 4.
It does maybe sometimes not as fluid but always fast.
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I agree faster loading time but unfortunatly not fluid as ios.
I own a Sgs, Sgs2, desire, desire hd, nexus s and the smoother ar the desire hd but it is heavy as a rock and not resistant as the sgs2
No lag on mine ever since updated.to XXKG6. No problem on either Ninphetamine or lulz kernel.
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On mine there is no lag with the stock ROM. Once I installed Go Launcher, the swiping of the homescreen while was not laggy did have a lower framerate than the stock Touchwiz 4 launcher which was silky smooth.
Never had ANY lag at all since the SGS2 released. It really depends on the usage. But mine, no lag.
No lags on mine. Unrooted and stock rom 2.3.3.
Ah, well... actually to be honest yes, now that I think about it... sometimes I experience a very annoying lag of about 1 second at each and every character I type in the standard text box of forums, while posting. Each character appears about 1 second after having tapped it on the virtual keyboard.
Not sure if it happens with all the browsers, but it's very annoying indeed.
In addition, under the same circumstances when tapping on the text for editing, the "arrow" cursor appears shifted down of about 2-3 rows, with respect to where it actually is in the text.
Not sure if anybody has found a solution for this.
All of these newer phones, EVO 3d, sensation, sgs2 etc. will hardly ever have lag, in my case I have mine underclocked and still no lag, and never had lag.
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The question really boils down to does it lag, Yes or No.
There are animation lags from time to time on the S2, thats just how andriod works. Even if you stuff in a quadcore with 3Ghz per core nothings gonna change due to how the software works, probably even if the memory speed is increased 10 folds there will be lags.
No and yes nothings perfect. Ive experienced it before root. Why are you thinking of swtching to, a diffrent OS?
EarlZ said:
The question really boils down to does it lag, Yes or No.
There are animation lags from time to time on the S2, thats just how andriod works. Even if you stuff in a quadcore with 3Ghz per core nothings gonna change due to how the software works, probably even if the memory speed is increased 10 folds there will be lags.
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I just had two SGS2's side by side to compare. A completely stock one (GB) against my rooted SGS2 with HyDrOG3NiCs rom and latest siyah kernel (Force GPU 2D rendering + Overclocked GPU profile) and the stock one was just smoother and snappier while scrolling between homescreens and through the application menu. I have some apps installed (1 time widget +2email widgets + 4 shortcuts on the homescreen + 8 shortcuts on another homescreen). While the other one is completely stock (and seems to have just as many apps in the application menu as me)
I've tried several ICS ROMs so far and they all seemed the same (speed wise). Does everyone experience this? Wasnt ICS supposed to make android f aster?
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I just had two SGS2's side by side to compare. A completely stock one (GB) against my rooted SGS2 with HyDrOG3NiCs rom and latest siyah kernel (Force GPU 2D rendering + Overclocked GPU profile) and the stock one was just smoother and snappier while scrolling between homescreens and through the application menu. I have some apps installed (1 time widget +2email widgets + 4 shortcuts on the homescreen + 8 shortcuts on another homescreen). While the other one is completely stock (and seems to have just as many apps in the application menu as me)
I've tried several ICS ROMs so far and they all seemed the same (speed wise). Does everyone experience this? Wasnt ICS supposed to make android f aster?
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ICS was slower in the beginning but I can say that now it is smoother than GB! The only thing that is better on GB is battery life
ICS = lags - slower than iphone 4
Stock GB = smoother than iphone 4
I tried many different ROMs like wanamlite/spike pure ICS/resurrection remix/MIUI/and now on hydrogenics... not one of them was as fast as GB...
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I just had two SGS2's side by side to compare. A completely stock one (GB) against my rooted SGS2 with HyDrOG3NiCs rom and latest siyah kernel (Force GPU 2D rendering + Overclocked GPU profile) and the stock one was just smoother and snappier while scrolling between homescreens and through the application menu. I have some apps installed (1 time widget +2email widgets + 4 shortcuts on the homescreen + 8 shortcuts on another homescreen). While the other one is completely stock (and seems to have just as many apps in the application menu as me)
I've tried several ICS ROMs so far and they all seemed the same (speed wise). Does everyone experience this? Wasnt ICS supposed to make android f aster?
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AOSP based roms have sticky scrolling and GB roms have free flow scrolling
That might be the reason you find one slow and one faster
But honestly ics is not yet fully optimized as android 2.1 was slow but 2.2 and 2.3 brought HUGE difference
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ICS = lags - slower than iphone 4
Stock GB = smoother than iphone 4
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id suggest you change your ics rom
ics used to be laggy, it isnt anymore and the samsung roms have the same scrolling as GB did.
Yes I agree, I have stock ICS now and before a few days I saw my aunts SG2 she doesnt update it usually so she has GB and I realised its much much smoother , but I think with time it will get better.
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id suggest you change your ics rom
ics used to be laggy, it isnt anymore and the samsung roms have the same scrolling as GB did.
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So i have to flash only stock samsung ROMs to get the smooth experience? Isn't flashing a pure ICS rom supposed to be even lighter (hence faster?)?
And if you suggest I do so, change my rom to what?
I've been using Android since 1.5 on the g1 have since used many different handsets and versions of Android. for me, scrolling had never been as smooth and responsive as it is now on my gs2. I'm using aokp foxhound and it's definitely better than any gingerbread ROM I've used on it. It's especially better than my step moms brand new stock gs2. Sorry to disagree.
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So i have to flash only stock samsung ROMs to get the smooth experience? Isn't flashing a pure ICS rom supposed to be even lighter (hence faster?)?
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Correct, Samsung-based is way smoother than AKxP-based Roms.
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So i have to flash only stock samsung ROMs to get the smooth experience? Isn't flashing a pure ICS rom supposed to be even lighter (hence faster?)?
And if you suggest I do so, change my rom to what?
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well i never said only to flash stock samsung roms, i said roms based from samsung are smooth. Personally ive found vk rom and neat rom to be very smooth and fast but each rom im trying on XWLPD, XWLPF and XWLPG seem to be pretty smooth to me. Im not gonna get into a whats the best rom discussion though, just need to read through and try some.
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AOSP based roms have sticky scrolling and GB roms have free flow scrolling
That might be the reason you find one slow and one faster
But honestly ics is not yet fully optimized as android 2.1 was slow but 2.2 and 2.3 brought HUGE difference
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If the scrolling smoothness of GB is what you're after may I suggest the excellent Fluxxi kernel found under Original Development. You can change the scrolling behavior to mimic that of GB. Read the faqs, flash it on top of your aosp rom of choice, and off you go
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Correct, Samsung-based is way smoother than AKxP-based Roms.
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1. What about Nexus ICS roms on SGS2?
2. Can I use custom launchers on samsung based roms to get the ICS look?
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1. What about Nexus ICS roms on SGS2?
2. Can I use custom launchers on samsung based roms to get the ICS look?
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neatrom with vertumus ics theme, apex launcher and siyah kernal is perfect for me
you need to remember the system requirements for ICS, its a lot more powerful, ive got an htc one x quadcore and that runs ics sooooo smoooooth.
Yes, gb is smoother, but gb is also less demanding and buggy, i do still prefer gb, but to balance it out, ICS is now at a point where its an acceptable daily driver with very little in the way of issues, its pretty smooth, its nice to look at and it works a lot better than gb on the internet tethering side which i use a lot, so, Ics would deff come first for me.
Forget ics, the big question is what will jellybean bring to the table, and will the s2 run it comfortably or not, i know were not far of seeing JB roll out to the first devices, i suspect the likes of the Note and the S2 and the S3 will be on the list for an update, from what ive read its due sometime end of the year.
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If the scrolling smoothness of GB is what you're after may I suggest the excellent Fluxxi kernel found under Original Development. You can change the scrolling behavior to mimic that of GB. Read the faqs, flash it on top of your aosp rom of choice, and off you go
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I flashed that kernel but cannot find the scrolling options mimic ability in xx tweaks
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I flashed that kernel but cannot find the scrolling options mimic ability in xx tweaks
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Within xxtweaker go to Display, scroll all the way to the bottom and you'll see the Touchscreen settings. For Touch Presets choose xxKernel Gingerbread.
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Within xxtweaker go to Display, scroll all the way to the bottom and you'll see the Touchscreen settings. For Touch Presets choose xxKernel Gingerbread.
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I did that. No noticable difference at all :S
Well I'm on CM9 and I feel it is more smoother than GB
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Hi,
I have got an solution for Slow menu scrolling.
Just edit your build.prop file and change following value...
ro.max.fling_velocity=4000
Change 4000 to 8000 and see the scrolling.
Enjoy
I've heard reviews say that it is buttery smooth and very fast... however have you experienced any noticeable lag when browsing, multitasking, etc? Would you say there is zero lag on it?
I'm just curious as to how it compares in terms of how little lag there is versus iPhone... anyone have an iphone that they can compare it with?
Yes I do notice some lag in playing game and the home screen would redraw at some point.
I don't why it lag on game and I'm now just waiting for a good Rom that would I could flash over it.
Mine has no lag, just clear your ram to close unwanted opened apps.
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It doesnt matter if i clear all other open apps or clear ram it would still have some lag to it. My wife has the tmo one s and she doesnt even have to close any running open apps and could still play any game with no lag at all. Both s3 and one s have s4 chip, but dont know why it lag or maybe its just my phone.
So far there has been no noticeable lag that I've seen. I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus and the GS3 blows it away so far. Screen is better, camera is better, hardware is better, feels better (subjective). Not a huge fan of the physical home button, but I'm getting used to it being there.
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Yes I do notice some lag in playing game and the home screen would redraw at some point.
I don't why it lag on game and I'm now just waiting for a good Rom that would I could flash over it.
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what do you mean by homescreen redraw?
I don't experience any lag at all
If you put 7 4x4 widgets on the screen, the touchwiz launcher will lag slightly from time to time. It doesn't want to hold all these cached images in ram.
There's no lag at all with the Apex launcher though.
Im using Nova launcher and there is no lag. I noticed some lag while whiting an email today. The keyboard was lagging behind by a noticeable amount. I found out that the email app was causing the slowdown in the keyboard. Writing an email in the gmail app was smooth and buttery. Software really has to be optimized to utilize the powerful specs this phone has.
Also, I disabled S-Voice to improve the response time of the home button.
Coming from a galaxy nexus, how is the browser and all live wallpapers any slowdown at all. Since ur coming from galaxy nexus u already know that live wallpapers slow it down horribly and browser lags with image heavy/ flash material. Anyone who could answer this I would love to know.
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Coming from a galaxy nexus, how is the browser and all live wallpapers any slowdown at all. Since ur coming from galaxy nexus u already know that live wallpapers slow it down horribly and browser lags with image heavy/ flash material. Anyone who could answer this I would love to know.
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Live wallapers don't seem to have any significant effect on lag as long as they are preinstalled on the device. They seem be optimized for this phone by samsung - they consume almost no cpu (less than 10% cpu usage). I tried Microbes 2.3 and cpu usage shot up to 50%.
I don't see any lags using the web.
Watch this video. It will tell you whether or not there is lag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XmfQZoYqbY
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Live wallapers don't seem to have any significant effect on lag as long as they are preinstalled on the device. They seem be optimized for this phone by samsung - they consume almost no cpu (less than 10% cpu usage). I tried Microbes 2.3 and cpu usage shot up to 50%.
I don't see any lags using the web.
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Was there any lag with microbes
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Was there any lag with microbes
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I didn't see any.
Thanks man you should post a you tube video showing sorry I know a little extreme. But I just finally want an android phone that is super smooth galaxy nexus huge disappointment there. I knew microbes worked fine on s2 but wanted to know about s3 since different processor thanks again.
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Thanks man. Just to make sure u are using us version right. You should mark a YouTube video showing live wallpapers and browser pinch zoom scrolling. Sorry just excited want a phone that is smooth galaxy nexus huge disappoint there
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Thanks man you should post a you tube video showing sorry I know a little extreme. But I just finally want an android phone that is super smooth galaxy nexus huge disappointment there. I knew microbes worked fine on s2 but wanted to know about s3 since different processor thanks again.
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Thanks man. Just to make sure u are using us version right. You should mark a YouTube video showing live wallpapers and browser pinch zoom scrolling. Sorry just excited want a phone that is smooth galaxy nexus huge disappoint there
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Yeah, my version of microbes was from epic touch. Must have been optimized for the mali gpu.
In your opinion they run the same then s2 microbes to s3 microbes
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In your opinion they run the same then s2 microbes to s3 microbes
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There's no s3 microbes. I restored microbes 2.3 from titanium backup. It came with either some rom or with a theme..
They don't run the same either. They both appear to be smooth, but s3 utilizes 50% cpu, whereas cpu was about half that on s2, and any wallpaper that came with the s3 runs with less than 10% cpu.
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Yes I do notice some lag in playing game and the home screen would redraw at some point.
I don't why it lag on game and I'm now just waiting for a good Rom that would I could flash over it.
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I experience lagging when playing Bakery Story and Restaurant Story games. The movement is very choppy. Didn't have this with my GS2..
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There's no s3 microbes. I restored microbes 2.3 from titanium backup. It came with either some rom or with a theme..
They don't run the same either. They both appear to be smooth, but s3 utilizes 50% cpu, whereas cpu was about half that on s2, and any wallpaper that came with the s3 runs with less than 10% cpu.
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Yup. Cool though at least its smooth and doesn't slow it down. Awesome. Mostly it seems people are lagging on games which I don't do much so I should be happy.
I have been looking at my girlfriends brand new S3 with stock firmware and i have noticed that ICS is actually smoother than every JB leak i have installed and also smoother than my Omega 26 Rom. My Omega 26 Rom has all of the bloat removed and it doesnt make any difference.
In fact i would go as far to say that hers is smoother than mine!
Im starting to think that all this Rooting and Flashing causes more problems than it might solve!
Smoothness doesn't necessarily mean speed though
Eg. Reset transition speeds to 1 if you have them on 0.5 is a good way of demonstrating what I mean
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Smoothness doesn't necessarily mean speed though
Eg. Reset transition speeds to 1 if you have them on 0.5 is a good way of demonstrating what I mean
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Thought I'd find you lurking around here spouting 8ollox.....
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I have been looking at my girlfriends brand new S3 with stock firmware and i have noticed that ICS is actually smoother than every JB leak
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I've noticed the exact opposite. My girlfriend's phone seems so sluggish with stock ICS compared with my JB ROM. I think JB has been really snappy since at least LI6.
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I have been looking at my girlfriends brand new S3 with stock firmware and i have noticed that ICS is actually smoother than every JB leak i have installed and also smoother than my Omega 26 Rom. My Omega 26 Rom has all of the bloat removed and it doesnt make any difference.
In fact i would go as far to say that hers is smoother than mine!
Im starting to think that all this Rooting and Flashing causes more problems than it might solve!
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I kinda get what youre saying. I have 3 devices on which I have the new cm10, dli8 and lh1. LH1 wins in all categories except for jellybean smootness of the dli8 leak. ICS is still king.
remember, these are still leaks, may still be bugs...
No. The jellybean is smoother. And cm10 is waaaay faster
People just have different ideas of smoothness. Some people think the Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean is smoother than the GS3 with ICS, not a chance, Some stupid people even think that the Iphone 3Gs is smoother than the GS3, which is just plain retarded. Some people think that the iphone 4 and 4s kill even the high end Androids in smoothness, wrong again. Some people think that sense 4.0 isn't a stuttery mess and that the One X is actually close in performance to the GS3, you guessed it, wrong.
Just go with your eyes.
If i were to hazard a guess. AOSP probably has about 30 frames of animation that just cycle every half a second, locked at 60fps. While touchwiz has like 40 frames of animation or more that is usually locked 60fps but not always like JB. So yeah, during the times that ICS touchwiz is at 60 fps, it should appear smoother.
Basically if ICS doesn't drop below 60fps or have memory que issues then technically we wouldn't see project butter. We don't even technically see it. We only notice it when the system chugs, and if project butter kicks in properly, we won't even see that. lol
Well its subjective, you need to ask yourself what do you mean by smoothness? For me its fast respons when opening apps and having no lag or stutterings. For this JB leak li8 does the job
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people keep raving about how smooth the iphone is but it's noticeably slower than android, esp the high end ones.. the smoothness is just there to cover the lags
I have owned 5 iPhone's and I can tell you now that ios strongest point is the consistently fast transitions. You can move around the OS 10x faster than android. Android is filled with loads of pointless animations and transitions that just make it slower.
I found my problem to be a widget called application manager. It caused a stutter in my transition from Page to Page. I minimised this and now it's smooth.
But I'd still argue that there is no difference between my girlfriends ICS and my JB
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I've been an s3 for almost 7 months now. From last few months on touchwiz JB 4.1.2 based ROMs, I feel my phone has become sort of slow (not exactly laggy though), but slow in opening critical phone apps like dialer or contacts, etc Also launcher redraws have become lot frequent now..
I remember when I initially got my phone with ICS, it felt so snappy coming from sgs2 that I didn't move to custom ROM that for few months as I just didn't feel the need. Somehow, its lost that wow now .
Is it because I have gotten used to the speed and craving for something better or was ICS really faster, you guys also feel?
P.S. I don't think its number of apps related as I have roughly the same number of apps now which I was using back then...
I actually feel that it's slightly slower too, but I still prefer jellybean because the lagginess is not very significant and I also use the multiwindow function quite often
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I actually feel that it's slightly slower too, but I still prefer jellybean because the lagginess is not very significant and I also use the multiwindow function quite often
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I don't see too much difference but is true in some times importante apps such as dialer load not as faster as i like.
This behavior i think is in ICS too, or at lesast i remeber
AW: Was ICS faster than JB on S3
The EMR2-build in combination with locked dialer and contacts by JKAY framework is THE MOST fluent phone I've ever expected. No lag at all, full Touchwiz functionality and complete AOSP look. Guys? We have a winner!
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Op - Relevance? If this phone could run froyo, some things would be quicker.
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Op - Relevance? If this phone could run froyo, some things would be quicker.
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true that, but ironically JB was supposed to make things faster with project butter and all
anyway I was seriously thinking of reverting back to ICS, the only thing which I'm gonna miss would be the improved notifications, don't use multi-window at all and about google now..its a nice concept but still haven't seen good use for it yet. Not sure what else was changed from ICS to JB transformation.
Though i'm not sure, if I can flash ICS simply, as I have upgraded my modem and camera driver. Is there any precautions/procedures I need to follow ?