[Q] Updating a Videotron Amaze 4G to ICS without S:Off - HTC Amaze 4G

Hey, Seems like Videotron is lazy when it comes to updating their user to the latest OS.
My friend has this phone and since I know a lot when it comes to do simple things like flashing roms and kernel, he wanted me to help him to update his phone. Thing is, I can't get, for the love of Morgan Freeman (AKA god), to S-Off his Amaze 4G. So I'll try the alternative since he doesn't need anything fancy other than the regular stuff.
I know that I can flash manually the OTA for carriers that has it but I don't know if I should try a Telus, T-Mobile rom and so on.
So what can I do about that?
And something else too, the last time I updated from OTA, it was when I received my Nexus S so I don't know if it factory resets and I need to create some backup in case.

You will HAVE to s-off if you want to update via another carriers ICS rom file, it's not possible with s-on, check the pin hole on his amaze, you may have to take a sharp pin and dig inside of it a bit, there seems to be a plastic covering it at times. Try s-off again after that, use a a paper clip with some tape insulating it, it works really great compared to wires. S-offed an evo 3d on the very first try today using one.

Okay, cool. Thanks for tips I will try it out.
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qu3becker said:
Okay, cool. Thanks for tips I will try it out.
Sent using Kirby's Warp Star.
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You're welcome, nice Kirby avatar, used to love that game back on my GBA.

i tried with a wire for almost an hour. first try with the paper clip and i got it. very easy to do

qu3becker said:
I know that I can flash manually the OTA for carriers that has it but I don't know if I should try a Telus, T-Mobile rom and so on.
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This part is still unanswered and as I am in the same situation I ask the same question
I don't think the phone carrier matters once s-off since we usually don't flash the radio but especially for OTA upgrades maybe you have to be superCID and/or use a carrier that uses the same frequencies, 1700/2100 in Videotron's case?
Are there any other crucial differences than the radio between one carrier and another? Do we absolutely need to go by the OTA of another carrier to get to ICS or is there a way to flash any ICS based ROM and fix it manually after? I searched that but I can't even find the question asked... If we can't, then why? What are the modified parts from stock GB to stock ICS on the same carrier?
Maybe should I start a new question thread... Does xda uses that one question per thread rule? Don't remember to have seen it in the rules.
Thanks in advance!

johnride said:
This part is still unanswered and as I am in the same situation I ask the same question
I don't think the phone carrier matters once s-off since we usually don't flash the radio but especially for OTA upgrades maybe you have to be superCID and/or use a carrier that uses the same frequencies, 1700/2100 in Videotron's case?
Are there any other crucial differences than the radio between one carrier and another? Do we absolutely need to go by the OTA of another carrier to get to ICS or is there a way to flash any ICS based ROM and fix it manually after? I searched that but I can't even find the question asked... If we can't, then why? What are the modified parts from stock GB to stock ICS on the same carrier?
Maybe should I start a new question thread... Does xda uses that one question per thread rule? Don't remember to have seen it in the rules.
Thanks in advance!
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All amaze devices basically have the same band, all the carriers we have here use the same band, so the choice of software is upto you since they basically have the same options, the only exception being T-Mobile, they are the only carrier that add in their own apps and modify a few things about the firmware and thanks to the htc/apple issue they changed the app association as well, so if you want the pure software with everything stock HTC the way it would be on an international version, then the Telus option would be best for you.

Good for the carrier specific software. Or in this case the absence of specificity
One detail is that Videotron installs a single app it's called "Portail Videotron" for renting and stream movies over the 4G network, a good way to have users using an enormous amount of data. But as long as the radio that comes with the Telus ROM is the same this app wich I don't even use I really don't care.
Will start a new thread for the other questions. Or won't if you think it won't be useful.

qu3becker said:
Hey, Seems like Videotron is lazy when it comes to updating their user to the latest OS.
My friend has this phone and since I know a lot when it comes to do simple things like flashing roms and kernel, he wanted me to help him to update his phone. Thing is, I can't get, for the love of Morgan Freeman (AKA god), to S-Off his Amaze 4G. So I'll try the alternative since he doesn't need anything fancy other than the regular stuff.
I know that I can flash manually the OTA for carriers that has it but I don't know if I should try a Telus, T-Mobile rom and so on.
So what can I do about that?
And something else too, the last time I updated from OTA, it was when I received my Nexus S so I don't know if it factory resets and I need to create some backup in case.
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Videotron already started on july 1 there ics update. It's a question of time that all the servers have the update. Some already have it.

johnride said:
Good for the carrier specific software. Or in this case the absence of specificity
One detail is that Videotron installs a single app it's called "Portail Videotron" for renting and stream movies over the 4G network, a good way to have users using an enormous amount of data. But as long as the radio that comes with the Telus ROM is the same this app wich I don't even use I really don't care.
Will start a new thread for the other questions. Or won't if you think it won't be useful.
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You started asking here, so ask all others here to save threads.
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rouiz said:
Videotron already started on july 1 there ics update. It's a question of time that all the servers have the update. Some already have it.
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If someone from videotron can pull the OTA file from their device he can update manually.

Dark Nightmare said:
You started asking here, so ask all others here to save threads.
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If someone from videotron can pull the OTA file from their device he can update manually.
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Ok so my questions are basically already in my first post. It is not that I don't understand the procedure to upgrade to ICS by dl the OTA, rename it to PH85IMG.zip and let hboot do the rest, it is just that I would like to be free to go back and forth between GB and ICS as I have always did with other phones. I can't see wich part of the system can be modified only by the OTA and not manually.
Edit: one may find it useless, it is just that I dislike much to be dependent on the OTA's

johnride said:
Ok so my questions are basically already in my first post. It is not that I don't understand the procedure to upgrade to ICS by dl the OTA, rename it to PH85IMG.zip and let hboot do the rest, it is just that I would like to be free to go back and forth between GB and ICS as I have always did with other phones. I can't see wich part of the system can be modified only by the OTA and not manually.
Edit: one may find it useless, it is just that I dislike much to be dependent on the OTA's
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Due to signatures and encryption and in the cases of the things we just don't wanna touch like the radio, it's risky to mess with things like the radio and since we don't have a PH85IMG for every carrier like we do for tmobile we have to depend on the OTA files, in order for you to switch between GB and ICS as you wish you will have to s-off, that's the only way. Once you're s-off and super cid, you can upgrade, downgrade, swap hboots, swap roms, try out other carrier roms, all without restrictions.

Ok I tried to flash ICS EnergyRom with s-off, now that I am supercid I try once again.

johnride said:
Ok I tried to flash ICS EnergyRom with s-off, now that I am supercid I try once again.
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Make sure you update your device to ICS first before you flash a custom rom, certain background files like radio, hboot etc have to be the ICS version for it to work.

That is what I don't like... But just to make it clear, with ICS version of hboot radio etc both GB and ICS are supported while with GB version ICS is not?
For now I feel a bit lazy so I will use the usual way and will look back at this at some moment.
Thanks

johnride said:
That is what I don't like... But just to make it clear, with ICS version of hboot radio etc both GB and ICS are supported while with GB version ICS is not?
For now I feel a bit lazy so I will use the usual way and will look back at this at some moment.
Thanks
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If you still need the update :
d-h.st/VMk
OTA_RUBY_ICS_35_S_Videotron_CA_2.14.1530.6-1.46.1530.1_R2_release_2630972v8tnj4gaksgm0w5

original rom
Hi there,
is someone can help me out? I need an original HTC Amaze videotron ROM. I tried the RUU.exe, but it's not working. I can't install the .exe, even if I'm in recovery mode.
Thanks!

Clouter said:
Hi there,
is someone can help me out? I need an original HTC Amaze videotron ROM. I tried the RUU.exe, but it's not working. I can't install the .exe, even if I'm in recovery mode.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25761360
The Videotron RUU is supposed to work. You have to be in the bootloader wich you can access by removing your battery and then vol-down + power, relocked (not in recovery). I don't know if it has to be stock CID, don't think so.

johnride said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25761360
The Videotron RUU is supposed to work. You have to be in the bootloader wich you can access by removing your battery and then vol-down + power, relocked (not in recovery). I don't know if it has to be stock CID, don't think so.
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That RUU is GB, not ICS since nobody every pulled the ICS OTA file, I don't have an amaze anymore to pull it so if any of you are on GB, kindly pull the file for other users.

Updating hboot only
How can I update only the hboot? And would an hboot from a different Canadian carrier still work? e.g. hboot from Telus and rom from Wind Mobile...
Thanks in advance...

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[Q] T-Mobile Htc One RUU?

I have been looking for T-Mobile RUU for awhile already but no luck! would anyone tell me if there is one out there??? thanks
there is none out there....
mdiaz33685 said:
there is none out there....
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what about stock recovery? anyone know where that is?
vazersecurity said:
what about stock recovery? anyone know where that is?
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I think this is a nandroid:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2276446
EDIT: Sorry, I see that you meant recovery, not the nandroid backup.
Yeah. I have been searching for the stock recovery for this device. Haven't been able to find it.
sent from my HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE using the XDA-Developers app for Android.
i dont know if we can just flash the dev edition??? and then flash the tmobile ratio??
I have a t-mobile variant that I changed to the developer edition thru s-off but for some reason, I feel like my data speeds are slower. We are talking about 2-7mbps from 10-20mbps.... So I don't know if I need to flash something else to it.. Like the t-mobile radio.. But how would I do that?
tdagraca said:
I have a t-mobile variant that I changed to the developer edition thru s-off but for some reason, I feel like my data speeds are slower. We are talking about 2-7mbps from 10-20mbps.... So I don't know if I need to flash something else to it.. Like the t-mobile radio.. But how would I do that?
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Unless you specifically did that via RUU, the radios did not change. The ROMs don't contain the radio.
stevedebi said:
Unless you specifically did that via RUU, the radios did not change. The ROMs don't contain the radio.
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Yes, I changed the RUU to the one provided on the htc website. I also changed my Cid from its stock to Cid 11111111 hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to go back to complete stock, is that possible? If not, what is my alternative to enjoying the developer edition
tdagraca said:
Yes, I changed the RUU to the one provided on the htc website. I also changed my Cid from its stock to Cid 11111111 hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to go back to complete stock, is that possible? If not, what is my alternative to enjoying the developer edition
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Ouch, that may have flashed the radio. There are a couple of threads about flashing the TMO radio (attempting to get AWS on international ROMS). You could flash the radio from those, but I don't have a high confidence that those radio files contain everything needed to get AWS back onto a TMO phone that has been RUU.
Here is one of them, take a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247171
EDIT: Eventually TMO will release an update for 4.2.2, that will definitely take you back to stock.
Oh ok thanks a lot. Dan I didn't know it would do that .. I hope I didn't screw my phone up... But hopefully the RUU that htc will release in the future will be beneficiary to me.. Because I still have 3g, hspa+ and in sure I will get low
tdagraca said:
Oh ok thanks a lot. Dan I didn't know it would do that .. I hope I didn't screw my phone up... But hopefully the RUU that htc will release in the future will be beneficiary to me.. Because I still have 3g, hspa+ and in sure I will get low
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Yeah, be sure and read the requirements for flashing when it comes out. I think you have to go back to stock recovery, for one thing. Good luck!

[Q] What can i do with s off?

I just got my new htc evo 4g lte because my other one broke so i have the latest firmware and everything, I am s off but i am wondering what can i do with it since i already have the new radios. At least i believe i do. like i said i just got it today and its already s off so if anyone knows any cool thing i can do with that please post, Also i need a rom, any suggestions? I want a new one and a reliable one that is not cm10 and i am willing to try anything out, thanks guys and hope i see some good help
Smileymk6 said:
I just got my new htc evo 4g lte because my other one broke so i have the latest firmware and everything, I am s off but i am wondering what can i do with it since i already have the new radios. At least i believe i do. like i said i just got it today and its already s off so if anyone knows any cool thing i can do with that please post, Also i need a rom, any suggestions? I want a new one and a reliable one that is not cm10 and i am willing to try anything out, thanks guys and hope i see some good help
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Check out the link in my sig. The biggest thing at the moment since your firmware is up to date is that you don't have to worry about flashing the kernel separately from the ROM
Also, the latest firmware (baseband) is 1.12.11.1210.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
FinZ28 said:
Check out the link in my sig. The biggest thing at the moment since your firmware is up to date is that you don't have to worry about flashing the kernel separately from the ROM
Also, the latest firmware (baseband) is 1.12.11.1210.
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nice write up also so there's no apps that run off of it? its just for updates?
Smileymk6 said:
nice write up also where will i go when a new one comes out? like to download it and so there's no apps that run off of it? its just for updates?
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No apps run off of it, no.
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S-Off allows you to change different things that you wouldn't be able to while S-on, like changing the splash screen when you first turn on your phone.
You can also flash any rom (SENSE, AOSP, or other...) without the need to flash the kernel in advance. With S-on, you have to use fastboot on a computer or Flash Image GUI found in the play store to flash the kernels.
Lastly, S-Off allows you to upgrade and downgrade the firmware at will. This is incredibly useful if you are having signal or battery drain problems with older firmware, since you can update them without the need to relock the bootloader and accept OTAs, which will require you to find a different exploit to root, and also to attain S-Off. Each Hboot version requires a different exploit, but luckily, there was one found for each version. S-Off is also the ultimate protection against bricks. It doesn't make it invulnerable, but you are more likely to save your phone.
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Smileymk6 said:
I just got my new htc evo 4g lte because my other one broke so i have the latest firmware and everything, I am s off but i am wondering what can i do with it since i already have the new radios. At least i believe i do. like i said i just got it today and its already s off so if anyone knows any cool thing i can do with that please post, Also i need a rom, any suggestions? I want a new one and a reliable one that is not cm10 and i am willing to try anything out, thanks guys and hope i see some good help
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Nevermind I didn't read the whole post

backup and root

I have a htc m8 on at&t. I've been thinking of rooting my phone. I do have a warranty on the phone and I don't wanna void that. Is there a guide on here (for super NOOBS like myself) on how to create a back up and how to root?
cjbart1009 said:
I have a htc m8 on at&t. I've been thinking of rooting my phone. I do have a warranty on the phone and I don't wanna void that. Is there a guide on here (for super NOOBS like myself) on how to create a back up and how to root?
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Indeed there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
but if you really dont feel comfortable with doing this stuff, by all means don't. Some things (S-off for instance, which is required to flash upgraded firmwares not specific to your carrier branded device) have a high potential to turn your new toy into a paperweight if done incorrectly. Just read up, follow the instructions to the letter, and come back here with questions. Most of the time someone will be nice enough to assist you
Tower1972 said:
Indeed there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
but if you really dont feel comfortable with doing this stuff, by all means don't. Some things (S-off for instance, which is required to flash upgraded firmwares not specific to your carrier branded device) have a high potential to turn your new toy into a paperweight if done incorrectly. Just read up, follow the instructions to the letter, and come back here with questions. Most of the time someone will be nice enough to assist you
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I do wanna root just so I can get rid of this app that's keeping my phone awake. I've read about the sunshine root. Some of the stuff I read is a bit confusing. On the website it says that the update won't require towelroot (is that the right term?) for me to be able to use sunshine. But in here it says that I need to root my device before using it.
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cjbart1009 said:
I do wanna root just so I can get rid of this app that's keeping my phone awake. I've read about the sunshine root. Some of the stuff I read is a bit confusing. On the website it says that the update won't require towelroot (is that the right term?) for me to be able to use sunshine. But in here it says that I need to root my device before using it.
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I personally nothing about Sunshine. I unlocked my bootloader with the HTCDev site when I got the phone (was shipped to me since AT&T couldnt sell it in the brick and mortar stores for the first month or something like that)
Tower1972 said:
I personally nothing about Sunshine. I unlocked my bootloader with the HTCDev site when I got the phone (was shipped to me since AT&T couldnt sell it in the brick and mortar stores for the first month or something like that)
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Just did the sunshine route. All I know is I'm unlocked and s-off. I do think that I have a temp root. What should I do next?
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cjbart1009 said:
Just did the sunshine route. All I know is I'm unlocked and s-off. I do think that I have a temp root. What should I do next?
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You need to slow down, as it seems that you are rushing ahead with very little understanding of what you are doing. I recommend any newcomer (even experienced HTC users) to this phone spend at least a couple hours reading and learning before doing any mods to the phone. If a total n00b to Android, root, etc. then more time should be taken to research and learn. Reading includes the sticky threads, basic guides, and also my Index thread has a lot of information organized: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Sunshine is an s-off method, not root.
If you unlocked the bootloader, all you need to root is flash SU/SuperSU or a rooted ROM. S-off is not required for root.
Backing up the stock ROM, recovery, etc. is not required for the AT&T version, as you can RUU back to stock.
Also, AT&T (directly through them, not HTC) will only void your warranty for physical or water damage; not for mods.
I read some more and I rooted my phone already. Thanks for the link
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cjbart1009 said:
I read some more and I rooted my phone already. Thanks for the link
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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Redpoint is 100% correct. If this all seems foreign to you, or anyone else for that matter, research, research then research some more! Before I do ANYTHING that I haven't done in the past (hell I have flashed many firmwares and it STILL scares me), I do alot of reading and see if its something I really want to do, plus it will help prevent me from coming back and saying "Halp, my phone is a brick now!". Once I have a basic understanding to it, then I go on
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Redpoint is 100% correct. If this all seems foreign to you, or anyone else for that matter, research, research then research some more! Before I do ANYTHING that I haven't done in the past (hell I have flashed many firmwares and it STILL scares me), I do alot of reading and see if its something I really want to do, plus it will help prevent me from coming back and saying "Halp, my phone is a brick now!". Once I have a basic understanding to it, then I go on
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That's why I decided to root my phone because I've read enough to know the basics and I was successful. I'm reading on flashing custom Roms now and it seems fairly easy but I won't just flash a ROM without reading more about it. Thanks for the replies.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
cjbart1009 said:
That's why I decided to root my phone because I've read enough to know the basics and I was successful. I'm reading on flashing custom Roms now and it seems fairly easy but I won't just flash a ROM without reading more about it. Thanks for the replies.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
Tower1972 said:
Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
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That's what I've been doing. But I've been mostly just looking at what ROM I want. When I find the one I want then I'll start really reading about flashing Roms and everything related to it. So far I still love sense so I won't need to change it anytime soon.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
cjbart1009 said:
That's what I've been doing. But I've been mostly just looking at what ROM I want. When I find the one I want then I'll start really reading about flashing Roms and everything related to it. So far I still love sense so I won't need to change it anytime soon.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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ARHD is sense also!! Can ya tell where I'm pointing ya lol
Lol. I'll check it out. Thanks
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Tower1972 said:
ARHD is sense also!! Can ya tell where I'm pointing ya lol
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Just checked it out. How's your battery life on it?
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cjbart1009 said:
Just checked it out. How's your battery life on it?
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Decent actually. I do run ALOT of stuff all the time, plus texts,,videos...gps...so for what I all use on it, it works great!
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
Tower1972 said:
Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
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Is there another ROM you wanna suggest?
Wonders_Never_Cease said:
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
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dunno if its just EURO, but since ATT lags behind in updates, and Mike keeps his updated with whatever releases are out, its my preferred one to use
I like how all the bloat is removed, regardless if its a WWE or US based rom
There is a debloated ATT 4.4.3 build thats tailored to AT&T already in the AT&T section. International section is not only place ROMS are released these days...
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dunno if its just EURO, but since ATT lags behind in updates, and Mike keeps his updated with whatever releases are out, its my preferred one to use
I like how all the bloat is removed, regardless if its a WWE or US based rom
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Check the AT&T HTC One M8 section youll find one...)
cjbart1009 said:
Is there another ROM you wanna suggest?
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
There is a debloated ATT 4.4.3 build thats tailored to AT&T already in the AT&T section. International section is not only place ROMS are released these days...
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Check the AT&T HTC One M8 section youll find one...)
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Better than ARHD?

Stuck at HTC boot splash

I can get back into recovery but ever since I've attempted to flash a costum rom such as Viper or Revolution it gets stuck in the splash screen.
I'm not sure whats going on but I can boot into AOKP. If someone can help me out with the appropriate steps to take to flash one of those roms OR to flash back to stock I'd really appreciate because I've been at this for a couple of hours now and my head is starting to hurt :/
You need to update your firmware to run a Sense 2.22 based ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
From the linked post:
The issues you will see without the new firmware include long boot times with no boot animations and some users on 9.1 reported wifi and bluetooth issues.
redpoint73 said:
You need to update your firmware to run a Sense 2.22 based ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
From the linked post:
The issues you will see without the new firmware include long boot times with no boot animations and some users on 9.1 reported wifi and bluetooth issues.
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I see you helping a lot people here redpoint so first of all thanks.
I just used the RUU.exe to return to at&t stock software number 1.58.502.1
I've read exactly what you said about being on Sense 2.22 but that's where I'm not sure what to do since AT&T hasn't release 4.4.3 yet and theres nothing for me to update to.
Do I have to S-off to obtain Sense 2.22? And also how difficult is it to S-ON? Again thanks so much.
afrojoc said:
I just used the RUU.exe to return to at&t stock software number 1.58.502.1
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Kind of did things the hard way, although you are back up and running. Now you will need to unlock the bootloader and install custom recovery again, to get back to where you were.
All you really needed to do was either restore your nandroid (you should always make one before flashing anything) or get a different ROM (Sense 1.xxx base) onto the phone and flash it.
Also, the phone was likely not really "stuck", just taking a REALLY LONG time to boot, like 10 minutes.
afrojoc said:
I've read exactly what you said about being on Sense 2.22 but that's where I'm not sure what to do since AT&T hasn't release 4.4.3 yet and theres nothing for me to update to.
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The post I linked previously includes the specific firmware package for US users, and a link to detailed instructions. 2.22.1540 is what you want to use, its pulled from the US Dev Edition OTA. While its not the "official AT&T" firmware, the DE is identical to the AT&T version in everything except AT&T branding (band support, etc.) and designed specifically for use on AT&T. Users here (including myself) can confirm it works seamlessly on the AT&T version.
2.22.1540 is also specifically advocated for use on the AT&T version in the following ROM post, along with great instruction (this is personally the one I used). Although you have to download the whole ROM, as the firmware is packed with it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
afrojoc said:
Do I have to S-off to obtain Sense 2.22?
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To update the firmware as I've described, yes. Reason being, the partitions that need to be updated by the firmware (radio, hboot, etc.) can't be modified without either S-off, or "official" update meant for your version.
The other option is to remain S-on and wait until AT&T releases the OTA. But who knows when that will be . . .
afrojoc said:
And also how difficult is it to S-ON?
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S-on isn't really necessary. As long as you understand the implications of s-off, its usually better to be s-off. More freedom, and more options to recover if you have issues.
Also, AT&T doesn't care about s-off in terms of warranty service. They only care about physical damage or water damage.
afrojoc said:
Again thanks so much. I see you helping a lot people here redpoint so first of all thanks
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No problem at all. I've benefited a lot from XDA, and its my way of contributing.

One handed mode? General opinion on m8?

Hey all, was wondering if the m8 has some version of 1 handed mode (like the gs5) either stock or included in Roms.
(Somewhat hard to reach the far end of the screen when I tried a demo model & I text very frequently )
If not, has anyone tried http://www.phonearena.com/news/How... handed mode tried it again and it fits fine.
Also a bit curious about what the deal with having a developer edition to convert to is,
Does this mean that we can get new updates from HTC before att adds in their bloatware?
Or does it mean something else significant?
I read the other thread relating to it but wasn't sure
The_Zodiac said:
Also a bit curious about what the deal with having a developer edition to convert to is,
Does this mean that we can get new updates from HTC before att adds in their bloatware?
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Yup, that's pretty much spot-on. No bloat or carrier branding. Updates come faster. The DE already had the 4.4.3 OTA rolled out maybe 2 weeks ago or so. AT&T OTA is supposed to be "soon", but who knows when?
redpoint73 said:
Yup, that's pretty much spot-on. No bloat or carrier branding. Updates come faster. The DE already had the 4.4.3 OTA rolled out maybe 2 weeks ago or so. AT&T OTA is supposed to be "soon", but who knows when?
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Thanks for the info! Nice seeing you around again man. ( nice to hear that esp. Because att tends to drag its feet on upgrades)
Next question is that there are separate Roms based on which version your on?
Do either cross over? Meaning if u switch to gpe base can I use normal Roms or vice versa?
Im not sure which viperone is? Assuming standard at version but not sure.
The_Zodiac said:
Thanks for the info! Nice seeing you around again man. ( nice to hear that esp. Because att tends to drag its feet on upgrades)
Next question is that there are separate Roms based on which version your on?
Do either cross over? Meaning if u switch to gpe base can I use normal Roms or vice versa?
Im not sure which viperone is? Assuming standard at version but not sure.
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& are there any disadvantages to switching to gpe?
(I wouldn't think their would be due to identical hardware, but thought id ask just in case)
AT&T wont be for awhile....soon = months
redpoint73 said:
Yup, that's pretty much spot-on. No bloat or carrier branding. Updates come faster. The DE already had the 4.4.3 OTA rolled out maybe 2 weeks ago or so. AT&T OTA is supposed to be "soon", but who knows when?
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No no advantages at all...unless you want plane jane android...
The_Zodiac said:
& are there any disadvantages to switching to gpe?
(I wouldn't think their would be due to identical hardware, but thought id ask just in case)
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The_Zodiac said:
Thanks for the info! Nice seeing you around again man. ( nice to hear that esp. Because att tends to drag its feet on upgrades)
Next question is that there are separate Roms based on which version your on?
Do either cross over? Meaning if u switch to gpe base can I use normal Roms or vice versa?
Im not sure which viperone is? Assuming standard at version but not sure.
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Good to see you here, too.
Any ROM meant for the GSM version should be compatible (stay away from the CDMA Sprint/Verizon specific ROMs). Although I'd exercise some common-sense caution and check the specific ROM thread to make sure AT&T is supported, or at least confirmed in the thread by AT&T users to work.
If you look at the ViperOne thread in this (AT&T) forum, the download section just links to the "main" thread in the "international/generic" M8 forum anyway. Which then links to the Venom Team download page, where you will see there is just one version for all GSM M8 versions.
GPE can mean one of 2 things, either just flashing a GPE-based custom ROM, or doing a "full conversion" which entails flashing a special RUU. The full conversion changes the partitioning on the device, and the only real advantage is a full GPE "stock" experience, which also means official GPE updates. If you don't care about that, and just want to try out the GPE experience, I'd suggest flashing a GPE-based custom ROM, which does not require changing the partitions.
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Good to see you here, too.
Any ROM meant for the GSM version should be compatible (stay away from the CDMA Sprint/Verizon specific ROMs). Although I'd exercise some common-sense caution and check the specific ROM thread to make sure AT&T is supported, or at least confirmed in the thread by AT&T users to work.
If you look at the ViperOne thread in this (AT&T) forum, the download section just links to the "main" thread in the "international/generic" M8 forum anyway. Which then links to the Venom Team download page, where you will see there is just one version for all GSM M8 versions.
GPE can mean one of 2 things, either just flashing a GPE-based custom ROM, or doing a "full conversion" which entails flashing a special RUU. The full conversion changes the partitioning on the device, and the only real advantage is a full GPE "stock" experience, which also means official GPE updates. If you don't care about that, and just want to try out the GPE experience, I'd suggest flashing a GPE-based custom ROM, which does not require changing the partitions.
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Thanks for all the specific info, exactly what I was looking for.
Just got my device & I love it so far.
The last question I've got at the money is, I've heard some devices can't get bootloader unlocked through normal means , and have pay for the exploit,?
How do you know which version you have? (is it a certain hboot or something
Or do you just have to try the normal exploit & see if it works?
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The last question I've got at the money is, I've heard some devices can't get bootloader unlocked through normal means , and have pay for the exploit,?
How do you know which version you have? (is it a certain hboot or something
Or do you just have to try the normal exploit & see if it works?
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I think its just Verizon that blocks bootloader unlock, and S-off is required to get custom recovery on it. Bootloader unlock is not an issue with the AT&T version though "normal" means (HTCDev.com), regardless of software version, hboot, etc.
S-off is another issue. Firewater works for some older AT&T M8's, but not on newer ones. Its not definite whether its software number, hboot, etc. that determines this. Just try firewater, and if it doesn't work you will have to pay $25 for sunshine if you want s-off.

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