CWM and Stock Recovery coexistence? - Motorola Droid RAZR

Hi All
I have a GSM Razr running on rooted GB 2.3.6, with stock recovery. I plan to flash it with Retail.en.EU ICS Leak 672.180.33, which needs to be done using stock recovery. My question is that I believe J Y Daddy's CWM can be flashed on the Razrs, does that mean I will lose stock recovery if this is done? I believe that you can only have one Recovery either CWM or Stock.
Thx in anticipation.

You won't be able to update to ICS with CWM/bootstrapper (at least it didn't work for me). Easiest way to do it:
1. Run everything stock
2. Root
3. Voodoo backup your root (temp unroot)
2. Update to ICS
5. Recover root
6. Install CWM on boot for ICS (Google it)
7. You've now got CWM on boot + ICS however you may need to remove CWM in the future for the next OTA (which is a easy process)
Another option is to install safestrap, which allows for easy installation and uninstallation compared to cwm/bootstrapper. A lot safer system-wise and basically the same features as cwm/bootstrapper

Thx for the step by step upgrade xXxTehxXx, much appreciated.
I read that on GSM RAZRs, Safestrap cannot be installed due to partition limitations on the filesystems. There's more space available on CDMA RAZRs.

xXxTehxXx said:
You won't be able to update to ICS with CWM/bootstrapper (at least it didn't work for me). Easiest way to do it:
1. Run everything stock
2. Root
3. Voodoo backup your root (temp unroot)
2. Update to ICS
5. Recover root
6. Install CWM on boot for ICS (Google it)
7. You've now got CWM on boot + ICS however you may need to remove CWM in the future for the next OTA (which is a easy process)
Another option is to install safestrap, which allows for easy installation and uninstallation compared to cwm/bootstrapper. A lot safer system-wise and basically the same features as cwm/bootstrapper
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prabbie said:
Thx for the step by step upgrade xXxTehxXx, much appreciated.
I read that on GSM RAZRs, Safestrap cannot be installed due to partition limitations on the filesystems. There's more space available on CDMA RAZRs.
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This is not true. I have a GSM Razr , and I m using SafeStrap 3.05.

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Question about Tenfar's recovery

I just got the the new 2.3.6 OTA update by following directions here:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/update-atrix-2-to-android-2-3-6-ota-with-root-retained/
Got my root back and I am extremely HAPPY!
I also think i have been extremely lucky (and cautious) not to have encountered any problems. The only mod I have is ROOT.
If the install Tenfar's recovery (or his touch recovery) and do a backup of my current rom, will I encounter any problems installing the new ICS update when it becomes available? or are there any other downsides to it?
I think doing a recovery backup at this point is a good idea, I just want to be sure I will not cause any future update issues.
I am a NOOB. Thanks for any advice.
panflute said:
I just got the the new 2.3.6 OTA update by following directions here:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/update-atrix-2-to-android-2-3-6-ota-with-root-retained/
Got my root back and I am extremely HAPPY!
I also think i have been extremely lucky (and cautious) not to have encountered any problems. The only mod I have is ROOT.
If the install Tenfar's recovery (or his touch recovery) and do a backup of my current rom, will I encounter any problems installing the new ICS update when it becomes available? or are there any other downsides to it?
I think doing a recovery backup at this point is a good idea, I just want to be sure I will not cause any future update issues.
I am a NOOB. Thanks for any advice.
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Do not, repeat DO NOT install tenfar's Recovery.... it is a dinosaur. Use Rom Racers or Rom Manager.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
having the recovery installed or making a backup would not have an impact on the ota update. Being rooted, unlocked and/or running a non stock rom could be a factor. Good idea to have nandroid b/u! git'r'dun!
ROM Manager or Rom Racer's?
mrphil101 said:
having the recovery installed or making a backup would not have an impact on the ota update. Being rooted, unlocked and/or running a non stock rom could be a factor. Good idea to have nandroid b/u! git'r'dun!
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OK great. All I want to do is keep my root - and I am not interested in any custom ROMS. I do not want to unlock my Atrix. All I want is a (nandroid) backup just in case my Atrix has a mishap.
Which is the BETTER route to take: ROM Manager or Rom Racer's?? I don't mind paying for ROM Manager. I just want the safest surest easiest full backup without messing up the future OTA ICS update.
The reason I ask is I thought you had to be unlocked in order to install CWM backup with ROM Manager.
thanks again

[Q] Latest HTC Software Update Won't Install

I have the sprint EVO3D. I unlocked it and its rooted, but at the moment I'm still running the stock image. I keep trying to install the latest OTA update from HTC (the one that removes CarrierIQ) but it keeps failing to install...no message, no error, essentially the phone just reboots when I tell it to install the update.
Does it have something to do with CWM being flashed for recovery? I'd like to have CarrierIQ removed. Is there a way around this that anyone knows of?
I had CM7 and MIUI installed at one point, but I wanted the 3D camera that I don't get with either of those.
DarkNemesis618 said:
I have the sprint EVO3D. I unlocked it and its rooted, but at the moment I'm still running the stock image. I keep trying to install the latest OTA update from HTC (the one that removes CarrierIQ) but it keeps failing to install...no message, no error, essentially the phone just reboots when I tell it to install the update.
Does it have something to do with CWM being flashed for recovery? I'd like to have CarrierIQ removed. Is there a way around this that anyone knows of?
I had CM7 and MIUI installed at one point, but I wanted the 3D camera that I don't get with either of those.
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If you're running into issues applying an OTA while on a rooted ROM, my first suggestion would be to suggest you grab a rooted stock ROM which already contains the OTA.
The steps to installing an OTA are fairly simple, but if done improperly whether due to lack of following directions or any other myraid of reasons, COULD damage the device or at least set the user back a few hours.
In order to process an OTA with 100% certainity, the stock recovery should be loaded. Manufacturers ARE able to add and use edify scripting language which could only be interperted and executed probably by a stock recovery image as they are not required to release the source code to their recovery image.
With that said and no mention of htc official unlock or revolutionary unlock, the process I would take on my own personal EVO 3D which would be unlocked with revolutionary is as follows:
1) Flash stock recovery image from most recent RUU via Flash Image GUI while in normal android mode.
2) Accept OTA and allow to fully process.
3) Flash custom recovery back using a PG86IMG.zip file.
4) Boot into custom recovery and via adb shell chmod 4755 /system/bin/su.
5) Reboot and everything should be set.
Another word of caution will be at step 2 to understand this will remove root access by removing the setuid flag on the /system/bin/su binary. This will be restored by step 4.
These steps might have to be tailored/changed for an HTC unlock device. Probably step 3 can be replaced by the fastboot flash recovery c:\recovery.img command.
Hope that helps!
Yes, it is because of CWM. You need the stock recovery to update officially.
Where would I download the stock recovery? I tried googling for it, but wasn't getting any straight answer that I could understand...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22554153#post22554153
There you go
Just download a stock rooted rom zip and flash it. Much easier, and much less hassle than trying to go back to the stock recovery.
Thanks everyone, got stock recovery flashed and update is installed...now to get my apps reinstalled
sitlet said:
Just download a stock rooted rom zip and flash it. Much easier, and much less hassle than trying to go back to the stock recovery.
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I agree, but the man wanted the stock recovery, so the stock recovery is what he got lol
DarkNemesis618 said:
Thanks everyone, got stock recovery flashed and update is installed...now to get my apps reinstalled
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Glad it all worked!

Fresh install of 4.04 after the fact?

Ok. so ive been trying to root with the new release but cant for some reason.
I figure its due to the fact that i unsucessfully tried to root with another method
is there a way to cleanly install 4.04 again?
factory wipe doesnt work, superuser is still in my app drawer
which version of ics do you have?
Blur_Version.651.167.3370.XT910.Brasil.en.BR.zip
so, the LATAM version
You can reinstall the OTA (Boot recovery > clean cache > wipe data/factory reset > install update from sd card).
or use this guide for fresh install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700264.
btw have you tried this process for root? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707431
worked for me (european leak)
thanks for the help. have a few options now to try. ill post my success or failure.
ps... ellas ole
Try the root method first
I don't know if the script works, i used the manual process with commands.
If you have any questions about running adb, feel free to ask
supercharge1 said:
ps... ellas ole
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Ok I did it. rooted it finally
I was right, i needed to do the fresh install to clear the previous root attempt and everything went BEAUTIFULLY
Thanks again buddy
I'm glad you made it. We really needeed that root exploit!
No one's answered this yet....
If I flash these current "leaks" like .210 for instance, to a 100% stock razr, 1.) do I have to root it first? and 2.) will the "OFFICIAL" release still be pushable and pullable for me without having to do anything special? Or will there be other things I have to do for having rooted the phone? (just asking)
At this point you can root any version of ICS using the latest exploit, but if you have a stock razr it's much easier to root 2.3.6 using Motofail and keep your root using voodoo ota rootkeeper.
If you flash a leak you will still be able to get the official OTA but not directly from your phone as an update, you will have to flash it as well.
Gr0uNdZ3r0 said:
At this point you can root any version of ICS using the latest exploit, but if you have a stock razr it's much easier to root 2.3.6 using Motofail and keep your root using voodoo ota rootkeeper.
If you flash a leak you will still be able to get the official OTA but not directly from your phone as an update, you will have to flash it as well.
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Thanks. I'll just wait
maybe......
Just so I'm clear... and I rarely am about Motorola rooting... we'll likely be able to use this to root our phones when ICS finally drops?
I don't think Motorola will have the time to patch this, considering that the OTA is about to be released soon, but even in that case, there will be another option for sure, many developers wait for the official release to post their work

differences between bootmenu, bootstrap, safestrap

2 weeks ago i bought the Xt910 GSM (Italy), updated to 2.3.6 with OTA and 2 days ago i rooted it with this guide: http://droidrazrroot.com/droid-razr-root/how-to-root-your-droid-razr-android-2-3-66-12-173/
i come from a ZTE Blade, where I installed clockwork recovery. I'd like to install recovery on the Xt910 as well, do a backup of the system and then start installing custom roms. But I am a total noob to RAZR and I couldn't find any sticky/thread to clear my doubts:
what is the difference between bootmenu, bootstrap and safestrap? what do i want to install to make a backup of the system and then start installing custom ICS/JB roms?
If I want to install Bootmenu, I'd follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792955 but it says "You have to be on ICS 4.0.4 to follow this Guide", and I am 2.3.6. how do I update to ICS before installing Bootmenu?
I was thinking to keep the original rom on 1st system and install the custom rom on 2nd system (if i correctly understood). thanks ahead for the answers
edit: damn posted in the wrong section -_- sorry I had so many opened tabs and didn't check..
If you want to flash the KeXec JB Roms, you have to use Safestrap XT910.
If you want to flash regular ICS Custom Roms you should use BootMenu.
Unfortunately on Safestrap XT910 I can only boot KeXec Roms. Regular Roms won't boot for me.
You find an How to for both Recovery's in Dev Section. BM is sticked and for Safestrap you have to look a bit.
BTW: KeXec is an Bootloader-Bypass to run Custom Kernels on our locked RazR.
You can easy switch between these 2 Recovery's. Just uninstall the one you don't need and install the other.
Safestrap: Open App in Non Safe Side and hit the uninstall Button.
BM: Is shown in the Safestrap How to
Sent from my KeXec XT910
thanks for the clear answer. I think this is the Safestrap's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30569963
I think I will go for BM, but as you said I can change my mind quite easily I have one question remaining:
I'd like to: make a backup of my system -> install OTA ICS -> make another backup -> install custom ROMs.
But how do i make the first backup if I am on 2.3.6 (with root) and both BM and SS require ICS?
Flash the EU Fastbootfiles for ICS. You don't need an GB Backup, because you can't restore it anyway after ICS. No way back to GB :thumbdown:
Sent from my KeXec XT910
Thank you again. I succesfully installed ICS first with this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747800 (using RSD Lite 5.7), then i updated the ROM with this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755764 (I wiped data between ICS and update installation).
Now I will proceed installing BootMenu, making a backup copy and then start installing ustom roms

[Q] [Solved] Backup ICS, then upgrade to JB

Hello,
I have an LG Optimus L9 and I'm on Ice Cream Sandwich right now, the stock firmware that was there when I bought the phone. Now what I want to do, is backup the current ROM in its full state, then upgrade to Jelly Bean via the OTA updater from LG.
Then I want to return to my previously backed up ROM whenever I'll want to, and get the same state of ICS that I had before upgrading.
Is it even possible? I don't mind if I have to root it.
Thanks in advance.
Everything you mentioned is possible, but there's still trade-offs:
1) if you want EVERYTHING to be the same as now (ICS), including radio, u-boot, and x-boot, then you can always using fastboot to flash the u-boot, and x-boot, and then using offline flashing KDZ to restore STOCK ICS (with root) and then use ClockworkMod ROM Manager to Recovery your current backup;
2) I personally don't see the need for you to have radio, u-boot, and x-boot to come back to it's current state: JB radio, u/x-boot works fine with ICS ROM. So the simple thing to do for you is:
a) ROOT your current ICS
b) install ClockworkMod ROM Manager
c) backup (using CWM)
d) update to JB (keep root and CWM)
e) restore the backup from step c whenever you prefer
mrmathematica said:
Everything you mentioned is possible, but there's still trade-offs:
1) if you want EVERYTHING to be the same as now (ICS), including radio, u-boot, and x-boot, then you can always using fastboot to flash the u-boot, and x-boot, and then using offline flashing KDZ to restore STOCK ICS (with root) and then use ClockworkMod ROM Manager to Recovery your current backup;
2) I personally don't see the need for you to have radio, u-boot, and x-boot to come back to it's current state: JB radio, u/x-boot works fine with ICS ROM. So the simple thing to do for you is:
a) ROOT your current ICS
b) install ClockworkMod ROM Manager
c) backup (using CWM)
d) update to JB (keep root and CWM)
e) restore the backup from step c whenever you prefer
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Yeah, I guess if keeping it in the same state is too complicated, restoring to the factory ICS would be fine too.
I'm still wondering though, if I do your process mentioned at step 2 above, will I get my bootloader unlocked? I'm a newbie in that kind of stuff, but I've seen articles mentioning something, that you can only unlock the bootloader when being on Jelly Bean.
Thanks again.
Voodoo rootkeeper is needed for you to retain root via ota. Or you can riot again if it's no problem.
Sent from my LG-P769 using xda app-developers app
YPwn said:
Hello,
I have an LG Optimus L9 and I'm on Ice Cream Sandwich right now, the stock firmware that was there when I bought the phone. Now what I want to do, is backup the current ROM in its full state, then upgrade to Jelly Bean via the OTA updater from LG.
Then I want to return to my previously backed up ROM whenever I'll want to, and get the same state of ICS that I had before upgrading.
Is it even possible? I don't mind if I have to root it.
Thanks in advance.
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It's possible but rooting L9 ICS is not an easy one-click process. If you want to try, take a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465.
For what you want to do you should
1. Try to offline flash your current stock rom first. This make sure that you familair with offline flash and you can flash stock rom back if rooting process go wrong. Refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2085344
This process don't delete your data if you do it right.
2. Get modified .bin file for your rom if any. If there're no modified .bin for your rom, you must make one. It require editing binary file with hex editor. There're some thread about this somewhere in the forum.
3. Root your phone with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465. Almost same process as offline flash but you need to add some stuff to your phone and replace some files while flashing kdz.
YPwn said:
Yeah, I guess if keeping it in the same state is too complicated, restoring to the factory ICS would be fine too.
I'm still wondering though, if I do your process mentioned at step 2 above, will I get my bootloader unlocked? I'm a newbie in that kind of stuff, but I've seen articles mentioning something, that you can only unlock the bootloader when being on Jelly Bean.
Thanks again.
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No you won't get your bootloader unlocked. It is true that only official P760 JB supports bootloader-unlocking, but that is an option, not a necessity (which you can deal later if you want to).
Also artit is right that ROOT ICS is not one-click process. I followed cmahendra's excellent tutorial and get things done on first try, but things differ for different person.
Root for JB
If you don't want to do the complicated root method for ICS then just wait until you upgrade to jelly bean and then go here. ICS was a bit difficult to root but once you do it then you can get it done with your eyes closed. Cmahendra has a great tutorial along with Lelus method it's great! Good luck!!
Nathan.7118391 said:
If you don't want to do the complicated root method for ICS then just wait until you upgrade to jelly bean and then go here. ICS was a bit difficult to root but once you do it then you can get it done with your eyes closed. Cmahendra has a great tutorial along with Lelus method it's great! Good luck!!
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Yeah, I guess it's not that hard, I'll try to do it. It's similar to the method for flashing an LG KM900 which I had before (non Android). I'll try it and report here.
I hope I can find a KDZ matching by current firmware, though.
(P76010g-EUR-XX)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107971
Good luck!
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Okay, so I managed to root ICS and install the recovery then backup my firmware.
Although when I installed the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and made a temporary unroot, I immediately went to the Software Update option on my phone. It downloaded the update and rebooted. Then soon after a while I got an error "Err:0x13e", then it rebooted back into Android and said something like "unexpected error occured while upgrading" (not precise message).
I'm stuck at this point. What should I do now? Has anyone experienced this before?
Thanks.
So are you saying your phone is dead or what? Did it reboot and die? More details please. And you weren't suppose to make a temp unroot, you were suppose to protect root.
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Nathan.7118391 said:
So are you saying your phone is dead or what? Did it reboot and die? More details please. And you weren't suppose to make a temp unroot, you were suppose to protect root.
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No, it's not dead. It throws an error "Err:0x13e" during the "Upgrading Firmware" stage, then it fails and reboots back to Android.
I tried everything in Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, it still didn't work.
YPwn said:
No, it's not dead. It throws an error "Err:0x13e" during the "Upgrading Firmware" stage, then it fails and reboots back to Android.
I tried everything in Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, it still didn't work.
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The reason i't snot working is because of the custom recovery. you have to delete cwm so that the upgrade can boot to original recovery and upgrade your phone. Be sure to get into Voodoo and protect root. That will be important after you upgrade.
After the upgrade go into google play and install Voodoo then recover root.
Nathan.7118391 said:
The reason i't snot working is because of the custom recovery. you have to delete cwm so that the upgrade can boot to original recovery and upgrade your phone. Be sure to get into Voodoo and protect root. That will be important after you upgrade.
After the upgrade go into google play and install Voodoo then recover root.
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Thanks, I see now. Though I decided to flash a Jelly Bean KDZ instead, then do a factory restore. Both my root and CWM were gone, so I rooted again using the LGPwn method, which worked just fine. Afterwards, I installed the same recovery I had on ICS, and now everything is working fine. :laugh:
I guess I don't have any more questions regarding my topic.

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