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I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
Questions should be in Q&A or general, but to answer your question, not everyone lives in a wimax area so what is the point of 4g when there is no signal to use?
^ this. I'll probably need someone to change my diapers for me by the time sprint has 4g in my area. Oops tmi?
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a good sprint locked rom would prolly be a good idea actually since a lot of new users prolly gunna end up with this 2.3.5 bootloader and even later as sprint moves to ics
Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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I live in a 4g area and sprints 4g isn't good anyway so long live the unlocked roms! I mean if you stand in the middle of the street and don't move then it's awesome.
I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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Ill work on that sprint leaked one have a couple testers probably 2night
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I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
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Since I also live in a 4g area I'm not willing to give up my 4g by staying perm unlocked. Ive been reading and learning and am testing a locked rom just adding the tweaks hope to be ready in a few days.
I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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i can honestly say ive never flashed any of your roms. right now my ideal one would be the 2.3.5 with fixed hdmi.. with that id be happy :/
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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you need to look up what open is, as it stands htcs "unlock is getting more and more locked down
I understand what you mean about htc being more locked down...that is why htc was second in my choices of my next phone. But I know that whatever man can lock down can be unlocked. It just take the desire too do it. If I was more of a developer and more advanced in this particular field I could spend more time working on it. But I am still learning and trying to figure it all out.
But thanks for your observations, and you developmental skills. We all appreciate it.
Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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In the defense of unlocking, I don't remember when was the last time I wasn't on a ICS base rom. I have full 4g in my area and everywhere I have to go to work. but I like customizability and choices. sprint 3g is fast as **** here so I don't miss 4g at all. I don't think I've even run a kernel that can't be overclocked to 1.4 in a while also... so, I stay unlocked. Also, Rocko's roms are sweet.. locked or unlocked thanks for all the hard work...
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
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I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
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I have an Otterbox Defender that needs to go with it. If you want to adjust the price a little, we can make it happen. You can check my feedback on Ebay if you want and Ill give you my contact info.. Im a straight shooter. Id even be willing to go back to my OG Epic 4G just to get rid of this thing.
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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Rocko,
Your Blur build is what i use when i need to go back to blur Great build! Id run it as my daily, but im a CM addict.
To the OP,
its all in the name of "bc they can." 4G(WIMAX) for me is over rated, 3G downloads emails and all that jazz plenty fast enough. id rather have the latest software then 4G, and ive been glued to CM since my EVO.
MadFlava,
screen sucks for gaming... Solitaire works great on my photon ha ha obviously im not a big gamer. I dont plan to make a move to a different phone unless the devs move. Ill follow them
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(if this affects my chances of ever getting dev status I'm not sure if I care as I've been waiting for almost a year)
Almost every day there's a "I can't find it" thread or post for a file that I personally hosted. Where can these files be found? In a STICKIED thread that I try to maintain and keep up to date. This leads me to believe that the money spent hosting and the work involved in the stickied thread is ignored and unappreciated by many.
People are still flashing 2.3.5electrify pudding on photons after it has been said many times "don't do it". Again this goes back to the previous paragraph. I'm now to the point that if you bork your phone considering that the information is obviously available, you deserve it.
Nobody is developing for locked? Since when? There's three locked ROM's/mods that I know of right now without looking. Rocko Locked to start, which I have said is a bloody good ROM for those that want eyecandy. Imperium Locked is for those that want a barebones ROM that was updated less than a week ago. Here's a surprise for folks. The Deblur/Debloat Script is an ODEXED version of Imperium Locked without the theme change! How many Locked ROMs do you want, or is it that reading and searching are to much of a bother.
Other annoying things are "I don't like the way it looks" complaints and the general lack of "thanks" or support. If you don't like the way a ROM looks then flash a theme. That's what they are there for. If you can't be bothered to flash a theme (and don't say there are none) then don't flash anything. Developing takes effort, time and money. If you are not developing, hitting the "thanks" button or donating then you are leeching, plain and simple.
Also. Why is this thread in the development section? I don't see any development work posted.
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Photon Locked vs unlocked;
Locked ROMs give you the benefit of being very close to the stock base in many cases. Things like PRL and profile updates work and in some cases you can choose to accept an OTA update with little to no issues. You also loose fewer stock features with locked like 4G. The drawback is that battery life is shorter, it runs slower and fine tuning is almost impossible.
Unlocked ROM's give you more choice and greater flexibility with things like full themes, kernels and overclocking/undervolting. It then becomes a choice of need vs want. My daily is my own ROM that is underclocked to 750MhZ single core and NOT undervolted. With the tuning of profiles, my battery fall off is 1% every three hours, video playback is around six hours and during a call my phone never breaks 456MhZ. In short, battery life is insane with a standby mode of 10 days before I get a low battery prompt. This cannot be done with locked. The only thing I loose is 4G but considering the impact 4G has on battery life I can actually transfer more data than if I did have 4G just at a slower rate.
If LTE proves to be more battery friendly then I may change my position but for now I personally choose flexibility and the ability to fine tune over 4G any day.
The DeBlur tool is awesome. I just had to flash back because Im going to participate in the SOAK if I get chosen. Everyone should run the DeBlur tool.
Hello,
I, like so many others am trying to decide between the Samsung Galaxy S3 & the HTC Evo 4G LTE. One thing that I definitely want is to be able to root and flash ROMS on whichever phone I get. I know that root has been achieved on both phones but I'd like thoughts on developer support between the two, and which one (or both) can be set back to an original state where it's not known it was rooted for warranty purposes. I know HTC lets you unlock the bootloader but unless there's a workaround it'll say relocked on the bootloader allowing anyone savvy enough to check that it's been rooted. Wondering if current root versions are S-on, S-off or either with the owner choosing. Or perhaps S-off is a must in order to truly relock the bootloader so it says locked instead of relocked. I also read in my research that you can trip a counter on the S3 the counts how many ROMS have been flashed... Although I also read it's possible to root without tripping the counter but if anything goes wrong, you can't reset the counter.
Now, it seems like the S3 would have the most dev support since it's been released globally but I'm assuming that the ROMS developed for the global quad core version won't be compatible with the dual core US version. Is this correct? Is there Evo dev community really committed so that I could expect similar work being done for both phones?
Lastly, I'm assuming that the S3 will have more accessories available for it given its release on 5 US carriers without any changes in the phone... Seems like a first for any phone but the iphone. Do you agree with this or do you expect lots of accessories and aftermarket items available for the Evo LTE as well.
I know that there's a lot of questions in this but with the phones being so similar, this may be the area that differentiates them. And I know that I definitely want to root the phone... No question on that.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice! I appreciate it so much!
All your questions could of been answered with a simple search of the development section.
Sent from my ice cream powered Evo Lte!
the only thing people are saying that i know about the ONLY thing that better on the gs3 is the screen.. other than that it all go's to the EVO!!! :victory: go on youtube and search evo 4g lte vs gs3.. u be the judge..
kaos420 said:
All your questions could of been answered with a simple search of the development section.
Sent from my ice cream powered Evo Lte!
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^ +1
There are already thousands of threads in this forum alone. Best place to start is the stickies in each section.
People in these forums don't usually take kindly to people wanting info, that has already been answered many times before, spoon fed to them.
Do some research and if you have specific questions about a process or feature that you can't find elsewhere, then ask.
One part of your question that I will answer, is that we do have a great, easy S-Off method and also a mod that allows you to make your bootloader appear stock, meaning it can say ***LOCKED*** and S-ON, even without those being true. With this method you don't need to use htcDev to unlock it.
Hope this helps. Happy researching.
evo401 said:
the only thing people are saying that i know about the ONLY thing that better on the gs3 is the screen.. other than that it all go's to the EVO!!! :victory: go on youtube and search evo 4g lte vs gs3.. u be the judge..
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Even that's opinion. I by far and away prefer the htc screen. It's more clear/sharp and doesn't use crayola neon colors.
OP I would also suggest browsing forum for the phones in question. As far as dev support goes, you're likely gonna have to separate each carrier version as well as us/international version of the s3.
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Haha yeah, the screen is the one place that the EVO DEFINITELY beats the S3. Most of the rest is personal preference.
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No, my questions couldn't and weren't answered by searching the forums. Rather than what IS NOW, I was wanting opinions on what you felt each phone would draw... In terms of devs and work for that phone. Now, if each phone had been released for 8+ months, that would be an entirely different story. But let's face it, the Evo LTE has been out for just a month and I'm still getting told by corporate stores (other than Vzw) that the release date was pushed back again until tomorrow. What I was hoping for was some educated prognostications as to how you felt that the dev communities would grow and take on their own "personalities". If you see the potential for growth larger on the Evo LTE vs S3, or vice-versa, etc. These are questions that require a working knowledge of a dev community and how they develop and what draws devs to any given phone.
As far as the bootloader on the Lte goes, there is currently a method to unlock and s-off without htcdev. There is also a method to take it back to completely stock s-on and "locked" not relocked. You must have s-off to accomplish it though. HTC will never know. Just look at the stickies under the development section and you can find what you need.
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Great info... Thanks for letting me know about both the capabilities to look like rooting hasn't taken place AND that Sprint will work on rooted phones. That's a huge big deal compared to Vzw.
As a long time basic phone owner I am finally decided to make the switch to android. I have done my research and have come to the conclusion that i would like to purchase the Samsung galaxy S III. However, money is always an issue and I am trying to spend as little as possible but get the most of out my phone.
With Verizon, my current service, the additional 720$ for the 2 year data contract is scary, but the phone, only 200$ is nice. My major question about Verizon is, is it possible to root the Verizon SGSIII. I have read multiple posts from outraged customers who bricked their phones due to the locked bootloader on the Verizon SGSIII. Also, from what i have read from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756885 it is possible to root the verizon version of this phone although it is more complicated.
My second option is to purchase the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and root this phone through verizon. I would love to run Android 4.1 Jelly Bean on my device which is why i would like to root the device and flash something that would give me this enhancement. However, if i purchase the Galaxy Nexus, i am locked into a 2 year contract with a phone that came out 6 months ago and could soon be outdated by its "older brother" said to be released this december.
Which is my best option and if someone could please clear up the Root problems with the Verizon SGSIII it would be extremely helpful. Thanks for any response!
Best Regards
JSMessick
What are you guys talking about...10 seconds in the Verizon forum would turn up a root tutorial thread. So yes, root is available and there are workarounds that permit custom kernels.
Edit: there's a sticky thread in this very forum of how to obtain root on the Verizon gs3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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From what I understand Verizon Galaxy S3 owners will be able to root but not be able to flash kernels or use aosp roms like CM9/10 since you guys can't flash a kernel.
Unless you buy the bootloader unlocked Verizon Galaxy S3 from Samsung directly, you won't be able to flash kernels.
Again that is inaccurate. Using kexec we can boot custom kernels. We have an early version of cm9 running too. The real hold up is the ril which prevents the cm9 build from having mobile data
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To my understanding, they released a developer version that's boot loader unlocked.
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Avelnan said:
To my understanding, they released a developer version that's boot loader unlocked.
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They are, with the release date undisclosed, however it is 600$ which is a little outrageous.
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Again that is inaccurate. Using kexec we can boot custom kernels. We have an early version of cm9 running too. The real hold up is the ril which prevents the cm9 build from having mobile data
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So if i purchase the verizon version of the phone and i root it and flash CM9/10 using kexec will the phone still work? what do you mean by the RIL preventing cm9 from having mobile data? just want to clarify thanks for the help.
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So if i purchase the verizon version of the phone and i root it and flash CM9/10 using kexec will the phone still work? what do you mean by the RIL preventing cm9 from having mobile data? just want to clarify thanks for the help.
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To clarify some things, since half of the users on these boards are misinformed:
The Verizon (and pretty much every) Galaxy S3 has had root since virtually their release date.
The Verizon version does have a locked bootloader (see #3), and there is going to be a "Developer Edition" released directly from Samsung with pretty much no warranty, and it will be completely unsubsidized.
The bootloader lock has not stopped us from flashing custom ROMs or custom kernels. See below.
Here's some source links for you, in rough chronological order:
The "Root66" method for easily obtaining root
Original proof-of-concept showing custom kernels can be booted
Standard install of CyanogenMod 9 via kexec demonstrated
Functioning 3G/4G data on CyanogenMod 9 demonstrated
Unofficial guide to installing CyanogenMod 9
CVPCS states locked bootloader is a non-issue
Ongoing research & development on the locked bootloader
I could go on and on, but as you can see, development of custom ROMs (both TouchWiz and AOSP based) has not been hindered by the locked bootloader.
The community has pulled together on this, and developers from non-Verizon carriers have been tons of help in all the progress that has been made so far.
Many people, including myself, do not support the idea of the Developer Edition SGS3, and I personally doubt it will have even a tiny fraction of the community the consumer version has.
wifi hot spot on verizon galaxy iii
My question is. Even though the bootloader is locked am I still able to get root access and use the existing rom that cane with the phone originally and add the wifi hot spot feature. If so where do I find the wifi hotspot software? Sorry if it is a noob question but this is my first post.
Thanks in advance
ExodusC said:
To clarify some things, since half of the users on these boards are misinformed:
The Verizon (and pretty much every) Galaxy S3 has had root since virtually their release date.
The Verizon version does have a locked bootloader (see #3), and there is going to be a "Developer Edition" released directly from Samsung with pretty much no warranty, and it will be completely unsubsidized.
The bootloader lock has not stopped us from flashing custom ROMs or custom kernels. See below.
Here's some source links for you, in rough chronological order:
The "Root66" method for easily obtaining root
Original proof-of-concept showing custom kernels can be booted
Standard install of CyanogenMod 9 via kexec demonstrated
Functioning 3G/4G data on CyanogenMod 9 demonstrated
Unofficial guide to installing CyanogenMod 9
CVPCS states locked bootloader is a non-issue
Ongoing research & development on the locked bootloader
I could go on and on, but as you can see, development of custom ROMs (both TouchWiz and AOSP based) has not been hindered by the locked bootloader.
The community has pulled together on this, and developers from non-Verizon carriers have been tons of help in all the progress that has been made so far.
Many people, including myself, do not support the idea of the Developer Edition SGS3, and I personally doubt it will have even a tiny fraction of the community the consumer version has.
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saedhamad said:
My question is. Even though the bootloader is locked am I still able to get root access and use the existing rom that cane with the phone originally and add the wifi hot spot feature. If so where do I find the wifi hotspot software? Sorry if it is a noob question but this is my first post.
Thanks in advance
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Please visit the Verizon SGS3 development forum, all of your questions can be answered with a little browsing.
In short: yes you can root your phone very easily. You can install Free Wifi Tether from the Google Play store, and it works fine on a rooted phone. Finally, rooting involves installing a "stock" ROM (i.e. the one that came with your phone), the only difference being root access.
I have done all of this, so has my totally noob roommate.
saedhamad said:
My question is. Even though the bootloader is locked am I still able to get root access and use the existing rom that cane with the phone originally and add the wifi hot spot feature. If so where do I find the wifi hotspot software? Sorry if it is a noob question but this is my first post.
Thanks in advance
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I thought my post was pretty clear that you can easily gain root access with the current ROM.
I don't know about using the built-in wifi hotspot feature, but I know apps from the Play Store like FoxFi work just fine, even without root.
The Kexec method is a bandaid solution that can easily be patched by Verizon in the future.
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As a long time basic phone owner I am finally decided to make the switch to android. I have done my research and have come to the conclusion that i would like to purchase the Samsung galaxy S III. However, money is always an issue and I am trying to spend as little as possible but get the most of out my phone.
With Verizon, my current service, the additional 720$ for the 2 year data contract is scary, but the phone, only 200$ is nice. My major question about Verizon is, is it possible to root the Verizon SGSIII. I have read multiple posts from outraged customers who bricked their phones due to the locked bootloader on the Verizon SGSIII. Also, from what i have read from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756885 it is possible to root the verizon version of this phone although it is more complicated.
My second option is to purchase the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and root this phone through verizon. I would love to run Android 4.1 Jelly Bean on my device which is why i would like to root the device and flash something that would give me this enhancement. However, if i purchase the Galaxy Nexus, i am locked into a 2 year contract with a phone that came out 6 months ago and could soon be outdated by its "older brother" said to be released this december.
Which is my best option and if someone could please clear up the Root problems with the Verizon SGSIII it would be extremely helpful. Thanks for any response!
Best Regards
JSMessick
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Going from basic phone (I'm assuming by that u mean a NON smartphone).... And already thinking of modifying. Wow lol.... Just get the gs3 my guess is u will be amazed at its capabilities right out of the box. Welcome to android btw.
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Just one final question, i know there are many people working on getting 4.1 Jellybean onto the SGSIII for the other versions (at&t sprint international etc.) is there a way i can get it onto the verizon one even with the locked bootloader? Like it is possible to get CM10 alpha on my phone and possible use that? or has this not been figured out yet. sorry for all the questions i just wanna try to learn as much as possible before i make a purchase.
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Just one final question, i know there are many people working on getting 4.1 Jellybean onto the SGSIII for the other versions (at&t sprint international etc.) is there a way i can get it onto the verizon one even with the locked bootloader? Like it is possible to get CM10 alpha on my phone and possible use that? or has this not been figured out yet. sorry for all the questions i just wanna try to learn as much as possible before i make a purchase.
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Idk about that BUT I do know that we should be getting the official JB pushed to our devices in Q4 of this year. I've been reading late aug-sep.
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This is a bit of a weird question, but its important. I'm pondering the idea of upgrading my Galaxy_S3 to either the S4 or ONE. Wife just upgraded her phone to an iPhone 5 for T Mobile and loves it. I'm an iPhone fan but I prefer Android much more over iOS.
Between the S4 and the ONE, which has better (3rd party) Android development support? This is important since I'll most certainly be rooting and romming it. Is the ONE just as easily rootable as the Samsung phones? What about bootloader unlocking, can they both be unlocked easily? Does HTC have support for the very popular roms like Cyanogen or Miui?
Also, does the ONE support USB Disk mode (connect to PC or MAC via USB to transfer files < - back // forth - > )??? This is very important, especially with a phone with no removable storage option.
Thank you for answering these questions, I'm really on the fence between the 2 since they are both similar in specs and both pretty damn awesome.
Yes the HTC One supports both file transfer,
The S4 will have more development but the HTC One will not be far behind
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This is a bit of a weird question, but its important. I'm pondering the idea of upgrading my Galaxy_S3 to either the S4 or ONE. Wife just upgraded her phone to an iPhone 5 for T Mobile and loves it. I'm an iPhone fan but I prefer Android much more over iOS.
Between the S4 and the ONE, which has better (3rd party) Android development support? This is important since I'll most certainly be rooting and romming it. Is the ONE just as easily rootable as the Samsung phones? What about bootloader unlocking, can they both be unlocked easily? Does HTC have support for the very popular roms like Cyanogen or Miui?
Also, does the ONE support USB Disk mode (connect to PC or MAC via USB to transfer files < - back // forth - > )??? This is very important, especially with a phone with no removable storage option.
Thank you for answering these questions, I'm really on the fence between the 2 since they are both similar in specs and both pretty damn awesome.
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Indeed, It will support cyanogen and you can see it in the International HTC ONE development section not this Tmobile one. The brilliant thing about all HTC Ones is that the roms will always work on any variant MINUS SPRINT. So not worries about bricking your phone and such.
You can expect MIUI to come here as well. The Htc One development at the moment is slaughtering the s4 So, if in the future the s4 has more development you can expect it to be not by much....
You cant go wrong with the HTC one. Oh and with transfers and such? it all works between pc and vs. Even my crappy 2008 samsung s1 vibrant supported that
bootloader is already unlocked for HTC vs samsung youll have to wait sometime to next month for the developer found the exploit to release it to the public.
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bootloader is already unlocked for HTC vs samsung youll have to wait sometime to next month for the developer found the exploit to release it to the public.
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T-Mobile GS4 is unlocked, at&t is locked.
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T-Mobile GS4 is unlocked, at&t is locked.
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I stand corrected. However, htc one is a good choice simply because there are alot more rooms and mods out than the s4
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Just got my one on Tuesday....My n4 is scared of it! HTC over samsung this time the ONE development is BLOWING UP
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T-Mobile GS4 is unlocked, at&t is locked.
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I also have the S4 and didn't know that.
Well dude since the roms for the international version are fully compatible with t-mo and att versions the development is gonna be nasty.
development will be great for this phone since AT&T, T-mobile, and the international ROM's are all compatible. Sprint Users on the other hand though... I wouldn't get this phone if I was on Sprint.
I am currently using a great ROM right now (the one in my sig) from the international forum, just had an update this morning, and its running smooth as silk, no issues at all.
T-mobile's BL might be unlocked on the S4, but the latest OTA put a root-blocking kernel in there... and with Samsung being accepted by the DoD, it might not stop there. But given how huge that phone is / will be, that likely won't slow anybody down...
I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Check out the non-carrier-specific forum...it's pretty active.
EDIT: HTC didn't come up short, this phone is considered quite a success.
My theory for this specific forum being dead is that T-Mobile's national release of this phone was yesterday (06/05/2013). Before that, it was only available in their "high-volume" locations.
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
yea all the development is in the international forum. all roms on that forum will work on the tmo htc one and they work very well. i have flashed every sense based rom and most of the aosp roms. definitely not a ghost town over there:good:
Yeah, they should. But as always, continue at your own risk.
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Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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yes but the 4.2 sense roms havent implemented support for tmo yet they still work as im running trickdroid 7.0 now just no wifi calling yet but the 4.1 versions have wifi calling and most other tmo stuff
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I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Yea I've been hanging out in the International One forums as almost all their ROMs work for us.
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
LiquidSolstice said:
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
akarol said:
Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
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Psssst... psssttt hey if u come we will welcome you!:screwy:
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Firov said:
As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
LiquidSolstice said:
It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
the7thson said:
Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
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akarol said:
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
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You're going to enjoy the One. It's the first Android phone to have the build quality of an iPhone with specs that beat the pants off it
The only thing that sucks about the One is that because it has such a high pixel density, you will be extremely sensitive and aware of pixels in all your other displays (laptop/desktop/tablet etc).
I own an ASUS Zenbook, which is a 13" ultrabook with a full 1920x1080p display which is retina-levels of dense on such a small screen (I think it's almost 170 pixels per inch). The One? The one is a whopping ~470 pixels per inch. It is stupidly dense and I promise you won't find a single pixel no matter how hard you look.
the7thson said:
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
jjohn999 said:
would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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Look like they took it down. I have it in my local computer here and I can upload it for you somewhere if you like. PM me if you have access to somewhere I can put it for you.