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I have a GTab runn Vegan 5.1 and it runs great. The one issue that I have is that my Wifi gets disabled each night when it goes to sleep. When I say "disabled" I do not mean this it disconnect, but rather that something is actually putting it into a "Disabled" state and I must select the connection and choose to enable it.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what could be doing this? I have dug through every setting I can think of and also looked at any apps that might be doing this. I even went so far as to remove all my battery saving apps, but no dice.
Any suggestions?
kmclaren said:
I have a GTab runn Vegan 5.1 and it runs great. The one issue that I have is that my Wifi gets disabled each night when it goes to sleep. When I say "disabled" I do not mean this it disconnect, but rather that something is actually putting it into a "Disabled" state and I must select the connection and choose to enable it.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what could be doing this? I have dug through every setting I can think of and also looked at any apps that might be doing this. I even went so far as to remove all my battery saving apps, but no dice.
Any suggestions?
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Settings - Wireless - Wireless Settings - (Press Soft Menu Button, you will see Scan and Advanced buttons popup) - Advanced - Wifi Sleep Policy - Never
Still getting Wifi disabled...
MasterColdSoul said:
Settings - Wireless - Wireless Settings - (Press Soft Menu Button, you will see Scan and Advanced buttons popup) - Advanced - Wifi Sleep Policy - Never
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Have the sleep policy set at never and this does not change anything. From what I understand this setting will disconnect wifi when the device goes to sleep. In my case the connection is not disconnected but rather completely disabled. So it seems that there is some other thing disabling the connection.
So, to give a bit more info here, I have installed wifi keep alive to try and save the connection. This keeps the wifi from being disabled when it is plugged in, but it still gets disabled when it sleeps and is also unplugged. (I.e. on battery and sleeping)
So, I am starting to think that the setting that fixes the problem while pluggedin is settings / applications / development / stay awake. I have this turned on and it seems that with stay awake and the wifi keep alive I am good when plugged in.
So, does anyone have thoughts for a similar setting when on battery power?
I can't help to much with battery power since I almost always have mine plugged in.
It's odd that not helping you, once I made that chance I stopped having my Wifi turn itself off (not sleep, off, and the tablet would need to be reset a lot).
Sorry that wasn't much help.
Having this problem as well. Anyone know how to fix?
If you notice other weird stuff happening in the future you may need to repartition your internal memory. Mine started with similar flubs and progressed to never remembering logins online. I had to login to xda every time I turned my device back on. Keep this in mind, about 30% of people need to reformat.
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"WiFi stay alive" will help you!
Mantara said:
If you notice other weird stuff happening in the future you may need to repartition your internal memory. Mine started with similar flubs and progressed to never remembering logins online. I had to login to xda every time I turned my device back on. Keep this in mind, about 30% of people need to reformat.
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can you give some info as to how one would go about doing this?
For what its worth, might help to set a fixed IP address. I often got a problem with Wifi not being able to reconnect because it got stuck on "getting an IP address" and failed to do so. I seem to remember it disabled the connexion to that AP after too many tries on my Nexus One.
On my g tablet, I was having what seemed to be the same problem, so I did the same thing and it seems stable since. Granted I didn't toy with it as much as I did on the N1, but I wouldn't be supprised if it were a general Android problem.
Anyways, its free to try.
The wireless uses a lot of power. When the tablet "sleeps", it should go into a power saving mode. Disabling the wireless is a feature, not a bug.
Either way how can I keep the wifi signal on so when i wake my g tab up the wifi is ready to go and does not have to reconnect?
anyone have anything to help with this?
I am not sure, but it seems to me that downloaded apps can play with wifi this way, as long as they have rights to "access internet, modify and bla-bla-bla".
I am having same problem after sleep. And it was not present from the beginning. It may starts after I upload some app. I will play with this after coming back home.
yes please let us know thank you!
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The wireless uses a lot of power. When the tablet "sleeps", it should go into a power saving mode. Disabling the wireless is a feature, not a bug.
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When my tablet is plugged in and it goes to sleep, the Wifi also disconnects, so I don't think this is a feature any more than the screen angle issue is a "privacy feature." I've never had an Android device that powered down connectivity when the screen goes off, that totally negates the notification features. You basically have a comatose tablet after a few minutes of the screen being off.
I don't think the Xoom or Galaxy Tab have this problem, so there's definitely an issue. Sadly, I might be sending mine back to TigerDirect as faulty because of this.
I have this problem too. As others have said, the problem isnt that the wifi turns off when the tablet sleeps. The problem is the last connected access point gets disabled so when you wake, you have to go into settings and tell it to connect again.
In my case, it happens most of the time, but not always. My Android phone doesnt have this problem.
I did a factory reset, then used nvFlash to restore, and then did a fresh install of Vegan (thought it did the same on every other 2.2 ROM I tried). I didn't install any apps, and the problem still occurs. Tried using Wifi Fixer, and the problem still occurs (though on the bright side, it does reconnect about 10 seconds or so after waking).
I'm out of ideas. I hate to send this thing back because it's the most fun piece of tech I've had in years, but a comatose Android device is a dealbreaker Going to try a GB ROM, and then I give up.
I've got the same kind of issue. I lose my PSA key in my wireless settings every time and have to re-enter it.
I installed the Vegan GB ROM (along with pershoot's kernel), and the wifi stays on if you choose "Never" for wifi sleep (you have to hit the menu button and choose "Advanced" when you're in the wifi settings). Only problem is, the GB ROMs, while zippy, are a little raw right now, and my Launcher Pro GMail widget doesn't work
I'm going to try one of the 2.2 ROMs again today along with pershoot's Froyo kernel to see if it makes a difference.
Ok, YMMV, but I am using Calkukin's ROM with pershoot's kernel (was using Clemsyn's before), with wifi set to never sleep, and my wifi doesn't sleep any more. I left my phone and tab here at work while I went out for lunch (felt naked ...), and came back about 45 mins later, woke the tab, and wifi was still connected, without that "looks connected, oh the icon is now disconnected, oh it's back again!" bit.
I still receive notifications and email, and widgets update. Guess I'm keeping it
Hi all,
The Wifi on my SGSII is constantly scanning even though it is connected to my home wifi network (a WPA/WPA2 PSK secured connection on a G band router). The signal strength is "excellent" and I have the phone sitting right next to the router. Further, I have network notification turned off ( unchecked) and under advanced settings, my Wifi sleep Policy is set to "never".
Sprint users have reported exactly the same problem on the Epic Touch 4G" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272226 ). Has anyone else been experiencing the same issue on their ATT SGS2 ? I would be very grateful if someone could post a solution for this issue.
Thanks in advance
J
PS: My wifi setting screen looks like this genteman's ( except i have network notification turned off)
(http://keithandlaura.smugmug.com/Other/test/i-sMwh6bj/0/L/SC20110921-212528-L.png)
jwlkr said:
Hi all,
The Wifi on my SGSII is constantly scanning even though it is connected to my home wifi network (a WPA/WPA2 PSK secured connection on a G band router). The signal strength is "excellent" and I have the phone sitting right next to the router. Further, I have network notification turned off ( unchecked) and under advanced settings, my Wifi sleep Policy is set to "never".
Sprint users have reported exactly the same problem on the Epic Touch 4G" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272226 ). Has anyone else been experiencing the same issue on their ATT SGS2 ? I would be very grateful if someone could post a solution for this issue.
Thanks in advance
J
PS: My wifi setting screen looks like this genteman's ( except i have network notification turned off)
(http://keithandlaura.smugmug.com/Other/test/i-sMwh6bj/0/L/SC20110921-212528-L.png)
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Scan rate is bumped up significantly when you're in the settings menu.
Have you confirmed via logcat that it's scanning frequently outside of the settings menu? It shouldn't be in that case - but without logcat it's almost impossible to tell.
Entropy512 said:
Scan rate is bumped up significantly when you're in the settings menu.
Have you confirmed via logcat that it's scanning frequently outside of the settings menu? It shouldn't be in that case - but without logcat it's almost impossible to tell.
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Entropy,
What should I be looking for in logcat? I have Betterbattery stats installed and according to that, Wifi scan time is 8+ hours even though Wifi on time is only 2+ hours. That doesn't seem to make sense, but what do I know.
I am running UnNamed 1.3.1.
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Entropy,
What should I be looking for in logcat? I have Betterbattery stats installed and according to that, Wifi scan time is 8+ hours even though Wifi on time is only 2+ hours. That doesn't seem to make sense, but what do I know.
I am running UnNamed 1.3.1.
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I believe BBS is reporting scan time improperly. I've seen that in a few threads.
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You're probably right, except now scan time doesn't even show.
I have also observed this on my phone.
I have a Samsung Galaxy IIs, using a Sony Ericsson MW600 BT handsfree as well as a Pioneer car Bluetooth handsfree system.
I have not measured anything yet, but I notice that when the Wi-Fi scanning is going on, I get significant disturbances on both of my Bluetooth hands-free sets. Listening to music is without a hitch, but talking on the phone (Norwegian GSM - operator Telenor) is terrible.
i also noted this after installing the OTA update to 2.3.6 today. I just rooted mine yesterday after reading 54+ pages to make sure i understood everything. i had a cappy and loved installing new roms but have not taken the plunge yet on the sgs ii. I haven't noticed a huge difference in battery yet, but it has only been a couple of hours since the update.
What ROM are you running? You can edit the build.prop to change how often it looks for networks. It is the line "wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=xx". I set mine to 180 which is 3 minutes, some ROM's set it really low. Also the scan rate is bumped up significantly when you're in the settings menu like Entrophy said.
Hi,
I had the same problem where my WIFI was fluctuating.... I dont know if this is the problem/ solution but this is what happened...
My SGS 2 is already rooted and unlocked. I had flashed the Entrophy DD 12/23 first then I had flashed Unnamed Custom ROM. After rebooting the phone, I saw the Wifi was not stable. So I again did a "Wipe Factory Data Reset" and "Wipe Cache Partition" and then installed the Unnamed Custom ROM from the SD Card. My Wifi is pretty stable now.
I am not sure if you guys had this issue when flashing a ROM but this seemed to fix it.
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ktoonsez said:
What ROM are you running? You can edit the build.prop to change how often it looks for networks. It is the line "wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=xx". I set mine to 180 which is 3 minutes, some ROM's set it really low. Also the scan rate is bumped up significantly when you're in the settings menu like Entrophy said.
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I have written about this wifi-battery drain a while back here in XDA.
When I used to have my Nokia symbian cell phone I used to flash custom roms
and there were a lot of nice new features after flashing.
A couple of the really nice battery saving mods were:
#1: added option to change the amount of wifi milliwatt output from 18 milliwatts (default) to 3 milliwatts
which is more than enough if the phone is no more than 20-25 feet from the wireless router.
(the mod gave the option of 3mw,6mw,12mw & 18mw)
Saves a lot of battery life.
Don't know why none of the DEVS have addressed this issue yet.
#2: added a mod so once the wifi establishes a connection it no longer scans
at all unless the connection is disconnected or lost.
So in other words, the phone only scans for wifi until it connects.
Right now I am connected to wifi with my phone and yet in settings it displays "scanning"
non-stop-constantly even though in wifi settings it displays "connected".
Why should the phone be scanning for wifi if it's already connected? (I have no idea).
Don't know why none of the DEVS have addressed this issue yet either.
Both of these mods really made a noticable difference in battery life
for for me since I do use the wifi feature in my phone a lot.
Hopefully one of the DEVS can look into these issues soon.
Now someone mentioned wifi constant scan, I noticed mine is doing the same thing. I leave the wifi setting screen on, it re-scans every 3 seconds!
Misterjunky said:
I have written about this wifi-battery drain a while back here in XDA.
When I used to have my Nokia symbian cell phone I used to flash custom roms
and there were a lot of nice new features after flashing.
A couple of the really nice battery saving mods were:
#1: added option to change the amount of wifi milliwatt output from 18 milliwatts (default) to 3 milliwatts
which is more than enough if the phone is no more than 20-25 feet from the wireless router.
(the mod gave the option of 3mw,6mw,12mw & 18mw)
Saves a lot of battery life.
Don't know why none of the DEVS have addressed this issue yet.
#2: added a mod so once the wifi establishes a connection it no longer scans
at all unless the connection is disconnected or lost.
So in other words, the phone only scans for wifi until it connects.
Right now I am connected to wifi with my phone and yet in settings it displays "scanning"
non-stop-constantly even though in wifi settings it displays "connected".
Why should the phone be scanning for wifi if it's already connected? (I have no idea).
Don't know why none of the DEVS have addressed this issue yet either.
Both of these mods really made a noticable difference in battery life
for for me since I do use the wifi feature in my phone a lot.
Hopefully one of the DEVS can look into these issues soon.
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Power control - Not likely, unless there is some documented power control already in the driver it's not going to happen. We're in a bad enough state as it is trying to make the chip not fire interrupts at 1 Hz on the Infuse.
Broadcom is one of the least open source friendly chipset manufacturers on the planet - their drivers have NO comments or documentation whatsoever, and datasheets are not available.
The rescan stuff is probably only addressable on Cyanogenmod, messing with it would require source code for the userland wifi management stuff.
mickey4mice said:
Now someone mentioned wifi constant scan, I noticed mine is doing the same thing. I leave the wifi setting screen on, it re-scans every 3 seconds!
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As stated earlier in this thread - this is by design. It is assumed that if you're in the settings screen you want to change networks and have an up-to-date list.
I also am having this problem. I am running the rooted UKK6 from entropy512. After turning on my wifi, my battery drained from 90% to 70% in 5 hours with no use. My android OS is running at 80-90%. I don't have any extra apps except for 3g watchdog and CPUSpy and BBS. I do have Go launcher and GoSMS installed. As soon as I turn wifi off, i can see my battery level off under settings. I have searched for the last 2 days for a "fix". no luck.
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hatgirl223 said:
I also am having this problem. I am running the rooted UKK6 from entropy512. After turning on my wifi, my battery drained from 90% to 70% in 5 hours with no use. My android OS is running at 80-90%. I don't have any extra apps except for 3g watchdog and CPUSpy and BBS. I do have Go launcher and GoSMS installed. As soon as I turn wifi off, i can see my battery level off under settings. I have searched for the last 2 days for a "fix". no luck.
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Try doing a clean flash using "wipe data/factory reset" in CWM
recovery and then see if the phone has normal battery drainage.
(which it will if you flash the UnNamed v2.2.1 custom rom)
Then install one app at a time so you can find out exactly which
app is the culprit that causes your excessive battery drain.
This is the best way to trouble shoot battery drainage issues.
You will see that your battery drainage issue is not caused by
the custom rom, but it is caused by a few apps which are just
not very battery friendly.
The UnNamed v2.2.1 rom is the best custom rom currently
available for our i777 phones and it has outstanding battery life.
Good Luck!
hatgirl223 said:
I also am having this problem. I am running the rooted UKK6 from entropy512. After turning on my wifi, my battery drained from 90% to 70% in 5 hours with no use. My android OS is running at 80-90%. I don't have any extra apps except for 3g watchdog and CPUSpy and BBS. I do have Go launcher and GoSMS installed. As soon as I turn wifi off, i can see my battery level off under settings. I have searched for the last 2 days for a "fix". no luck.
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This has nothing to do with this thread - This thread is talking about wifi scanning.
Drain problems - read my known battery drainers thread. A lot of people are having problems, there is no fix, and there won't be until all the people complaining start actually collecting some data.
Which is better for the batterylife, 3G or Wifi?
At home and at work I'm connected to Wifi, but yesterday I noticed when I turned off Wifi and used 3G instead 3G seems to use less battery. However, this could also be because of several wakelocks I had when I was using Wifi.
I would understand Wifi is better for heavy internet use and 3G for push messages, but I couldn't find an answer anywhere on the forum, sorry if I missed it.
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Which is better for the batterylife, 3G or Wifi?
At home and at work I'm connected to Wifi, but yesterday I noticed when I turned off Wifi and used 3G instead 3G seems to use less battery. However, this could also be because of several wakelocks I had when I was using Wifi.
I would understand Wifi is better for heavy internet use and 3G for push messages, but I couldn't find an answer anywhere on the forum, sorry if I missed it.
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Hi there!
Wifi uses a lot less battery life, especially if you browse or do anything.
Having wifi ON always uses a certain amount of battery life, now, if you're receiving emails, downloading, browsing, it easily makes up for it. The reason for this is that Wifi is a "local" communication signal. It's for short distances, therefore your phone doesn't have to emit that strong of a signal, nor does it use up that much battery to receive. So Wifi is the way to go if you're just going to use it even a little bit.
3G uses more energy because of the radio spectrum itself and the distance and having to maintain it. It's true while having wifi you also maintain 3G, but you're not emitting constant data, it's just the "I'm still alive" packet to your operator.
Summary:
Use wifi if you're going to use your phone on the internet even a little bit. Turn it off when you don't have wifi near you, otherwise it'll be looking for a new wifi hotspot and that'll drain some battery.
Don't use wifi if you're not home.
Thanks for the clear answer!
Glad to have helped
New problem
The last 2/3 days my batterylife decreased. My phone was awake most of the time even though the screen was off and this hadn't happened before. After installing BetterBatteryStats (BBS) I could see the process wlan_rx_wake was on top (about 6,5 hours of the total 10 hours the phone was on).
My first thought was some app was responsible for this, however when I turned off Wifi and started using 3G again my batterylife seems to be normal again. Checking BBS the wlan_rx_wake seems to be renamed to deleted_wake_locks.
The last things that changed just before the problems started occurring was installing the Facebook and Twitter app, and updated to the latest ICS Vertumes theme (I was on 1.5 and now I'm on 1.6). So I uninstalled the Facebook and Twitter app but this didnt help at all. I already uninstalled Google Maps. The only thing I haven't tried yet is changing to the original theme, but it doesn't make sense this could be the solution.
Any ideas?
I had the same problem with the twitter app, it kept waking my device so i uninstalled it and use Ubersocial now.
I use Juicedefender (Ultimate version if you want to pay)
Juicedefender can turn off your wifi and 3g when your screen is off. It can be set to ping your data/wifi every few minutes if required to check emails tweets.
But Twitter nor Facebook is the problem. When uninstalled the problem still exists. Dont want to turn off wifi or 3G when the screen is off as then my mail or whatsapp wont sync.
Read something that it could be the type of router, but this isn't it as well. I've got the problem at home, work and at my parents house. All different routers.
Think I might just do a full-wipe and hope that solves it..
Before you do a full wipe try freezing Wifi Sharing and Wifi Sharing Manager with Titanium or Bloat Freezer Free to see if that makes a difference.
Sorry I recognize twitter was not an issue for you, it was the app that first alerted me to my issues about the wakelocks
LocationManagerService
Hmm... LocationManagerService is active over more than 4 hours. What could that be? GPS and the Google location stuff is already disabled..
logout of maps and check if that helped.
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wakelocks by apps that needs to sync can still be left even if u have deleted the actual apps that's requesting on-line data.residuals i would say.but try to check each and every apps that you have installed and see if they have sync or update requests and prolly modify them to manual.see also if ICS has a push notification request like "send errors to" or "check updates"
3G ofcourse
Maybe it's the kernel. Currently using Speedmod K2-18-test12. Lost 50% battery during the night. The phone wasnt awake but didnt enter deep sleep either.
Will try Speedmod K2-18-test16 next. If that doesnt solve it I'll try a whole different kernel.
Recently I disabled the best wi-fi performance option (I enabled it on accident while messing around with settings on launch day) which obviously increased my battery life dramatically by actually allowing my phone to go into deep sleep. But now I hit a new issue.
Before I go on, I want to state that I DID apply the SmartSync fix and that my data IS working while my phone is in deep sleep.
New emails I receive with Gmail app do not get pushed to my phone as they should. They are anywhere from 5-15 minutes late if they even show up at all. If I happen to turn my screen on, automatically I get the notification of new emails.
Is anyone else having this issue with Gmail or any other app? I find it strange that while I have data (wi-fi/3g) enabled and working with the screen off, emails still come in delayed.
Any help would be appreciated. I have searched around and most of the answers I came up with (regarding HTC devices like the One X) had to do with SmartSync messing up the connection or someone not having the notifications enabled. I'm at a loss 0.0
EDIT: I tested this with Google Talk had my main account up in Gmail and in another browser windows my other Gmail account. Added both of them, talked to my self, if my device screen was off, I would either get it 1-2 minutes late or not at all. Once I turned my screen back on, the notifications poured in. I also tried the same scenario with my main Gmail account logged off (in case it was canceling out the messages to my phone, which it wasn't) and I had the same outcome. I edited the title to reflect that this isn't a Gmail only issue.
EDIT 2: Did more tests, I tried turning Wi-Fi off completely and running the same tests as above to my surprise everything worked as expected. I initially thought it might be because of my 5Ghz Wi-Fi band, so I tried it all again on my 2.4Ghz channel -- had the same problems as before. Somehow the issue pertains to your screen being off and Wi-Fi being on.
EDIT 3: I just tried streaming Pandora and shutting the screen off (maybe WiFi WAS somehow shutting off) Pandora kept playing no problem. I messaged myself on Talk, got the notification right away. This is very bizarre 0.0 But it might confirm this only happens when the phone is in deep sleep mode... Still doesn't answer why it doesn't happen on 3G or why notifications sometimes still come through.
EDIT 4: Still no fix but I have discovered that for some reason if the screen is off ANY data doesn't go through. Let me explain better:
If I have some thing like Pandora running then it will continue to run once I shut my screen off. But if WiFi isn't being used and I turn my screen off and then lets say I try to connect to it with Cerberus or ping it from my PC or something it will not even though the router reports it as connected.
Very strange behavior.
This is interesting...maybe the wifi performance toggle is associated to the smartsync, and all?.....I will say that with it unchecked I am getting some really really good battery life here compared to previous phones....but I also notice at times when emails are not pushed till I wake the screen during the day....Also the fact my wifi doesn't automatically reconnect to my house when I get back from work till I wake the screen...little things like that...
Havent messed with the best performance setting but will try it today now...
Racer Of All said:
Recently I disabled the best wi-fi performance option (I enabled it on accident while messing around with settings on launch day) which obviously increased my battery life dramatically by actually allowing my phone to go into deep sleep. But now I hit a new issue.
Before I go on, I want to state that I DID apply the SmartSync fix and that my data IS working while my phone is in deep sleep.
New emails I receive with Gmail app do not get pushed to my phone as they should. They are anywhere from 5-15 minutes late if they even show up at all. If I happen to turn my screen on, automatically I get the notification of new emails.
Is anyone else having this issue with Gmail or any other app? I find it strange that while I have data (wi-fi/3g) enabled and working with the screen off, emails still come in delayed.
Any help would be appreciated. I have searched around and most of the answers I came up with (regarding HTC devices like the One X) had to do with SmartSync messing up the connection or someone not having the notifications enabled. I'm at a loss 0.0
EDIT: I tested this with Google Talk had my main account up in Gmail and in another browser windows my other Gmail account. Added both of them, talked to my self, if my device screen was off, I would either get it 1-2 minutes late or not at all. Once I turned my screen back on, the notifications poured in. I also tried the same scenario with my main Gmail account logged off (in case it was canceling out the messages to my phone, which it wasn't) and I had the same outcome. I edited the title to reflect that this isn't a Gmail only issue.
EDIT 2: Did more tests, I tried turning Wi-Fi off completely and running the same tests as above to my surprise everything worked as expected. I initially thought it might be because of my 5Ghz Wi-Fi band, so I tried it all again on my 2.4Ghz channel -- had the same problems as before. Somehow the issue pertains to your screen being off and Wi-Fi being on.
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Try installing this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logicvoid.powersaversettings&hl=en and unchecking "put data connection to sleep." It may not solve the issue but its worth a shot.
Okay, I just tried streaming Pandora and shutting the screen off (maybe WiFi WAS somehow shutting off) Pandora kept playing no problem. I messaged myself on Talk, got the notification right away. This is very bizarre 0.0 But it might confirm this only happens when the phone is in deep sleep mode... Still doesn't answer why it doesn't happen on 3G or why notifications sometimes still come through.
njfoses said:
Try installing this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logicvoid.powersaversettings&hl=en and unchecking "put data connection to sleep." It may not solve the issue but its worth a shot.
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Have it, and it is unchecked. That's the weird thing, wi fi doesn't actually turn all the way off because SOMETIMES I do get the push notifications (late, however).
sgt. slaughter said:
This is interesting...maybe the wifi performance toggle is associated to the smartsync, and all?.....I will say that with it unchecked I am getting some really really good battery life here compared to previous phones....but I also notice at times when emails are not pushed till I wake the screen during the day....Also the fact my wifi doesn't automatically reconnect to my house when I get back from work till I wake the screen...little things like that...
Havent messed with the best performance setting but will try it today now...
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Let me know if that works, if so at least I know I'm not the only one xD
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I DID apply the SmartSync fix
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what is the smart sync fix?
When I installed this app, my cpu reduction and frame rate reduction was enabled. Does that mean this is standard with this phone. Does using this app to disable those setting improve the performance?
Issue continued overnight, tried various other things and nothing seems to fix it. I want to get my notifications but I don't want to destroy my battery life xD is anyone else having this issue?
djscissorhands said:
what is the smart sync fix?
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This one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697375&highlight=smartsync
I have the same problem on my 2nd evo as well after returning the 1st. Going to try a rom with the fix tomorrow. I'll report back with what I find. Hopefully I won't have to return again....
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AardvarkAttack said:
I have the same problem on my 2nd evo as well after returning the 1st. Going to try a rom with the fix tomorrow. I'll report back with what I find. Hopefully I won't have to return again....
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
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It's definitely not a hardware problem because if that was the case the phone wouldn't work with wi fi almost at all. My wi-fi connection is rock solid even when the screen is off, just for some reason it won't notify I have the messages until the screen gets turned on.
I did some tests on my gf's stock phone and she's having the same issues, I told her to do some tests on her parents wi-fi when she goes there. I wonder if sgt slaughter has any news.
Btw if you definitely need them on time and need to be on wi fi but don't care about battery life that much just enable best wi fi performance.
djscissorhands said:
what is the smart sync fix?
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Actually more like a Smart Sync break ... The built in settings/app put your data connections to sleep when your phone goes to deep sleep; this is done to save battery when phone not in use for extended period.
Some folks hate losing the data connections so a flashable "fix" is available for the "problem" ... Look around; you'll find it
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its a sense problem, there's a thread in the one x forums on how to fix it. I'll post when I get home if I can find it. it shuts down to a 'power save' mode after a while plus after midnight or 11 or something.
Just wanted to update that I installed a custom rom that contains the WiFi fix mentioned and although my WiFi doesn't seem to drop how it did before (at least after one day) my notifications are anywhere between 4-10 minutes late on average through WiFi. This seems to be across the board for Exchange email, Gmail & Google Voice.
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Just wanted to update that I installed a custom rom that contains the WiFi fix mentioned and although my WiFi doesn't seem to drop how it did before (at least after one day) my notifications are anywhere between 4-10 minutes late on average through WiFi. This seems to be across the board for Exchange email, Gmail & Google Voice.
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Yes my setup also had the wi-fi fix, I can even see my phone connected to the router when the screen is off, the connection is strong.
I had a suspicion it was probably the basic transfer rate of the browser and for some reason I could not adjust this on my fancy 100 dollar router with dd-wrt flashed onto it so I set up a repeater with my older router on stock settings. It seems like the notifications are coming through better now (albeit not instantly) but at least I don't have to turn my screen on every time. It might be a placebo effect or just luck (because at times it does work even with my other router).
EDIT: Ignore the italicized sentence. It was just a stroke of luck, the problem came back.
I'm out of ideas at this point xD
I am having a similar issue as well.
I am rooted and running Fresh Evo LTE 5.1.1 which has the "Disabled SmartSync deep sleep mode" already installed. I also leave my WiFi off (for the same reason as the OP outlines - messages are just plain not arriving or if they do it's after I turn the screen on).
I use gtalk as my primary form of communication on my phone and what seems to be happening is messages from my two closest friends are never arriving. It's hit or miss but seems to be ~45mins after my screen turns off that they send a message and I never get it. One is on Sprint on my family plan and the other is on Verizon. The weird thing is that if I look in my gmail > conversations the messages aren't there either.
I haven't been able to verify any SMS messages that I haven't received but I have noticed that my email notifications seemed a bit wonky but this issue may be fixed with changing my "push" hours (which is retarded to have factory set to only push email between 8am - 8pm).
Question for the smart kids in the class: When does the phone reach "deep sleep"? Is it around ~45mins after the screen turns off?
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I am having a similar issue as well.
I am rooted and running Fresh Evo LTE 5.1.1 which has the "Disabled SmartSync deep sleep mode" already installed. I also leave my WiFi off (for the same reason as the OP outlines - messages are just plain not arriving or if they do it's after I turn the screen on).
I use gtalk as my primary form of communication on my phone and what seems to be happening is messages from my two closest friends are never arriving. It's hit or miss but seems to be ~45mins after my screen turns off that they send a message and I never get it. One is on Sprint on my family plan and the other is on Verizon. The weird thing is that if I look in my gmail > conversations the messages aren't there either.
I haven't been able to verify any SMS messages that I haven't received but I have noticed that my email notifications seemed a bit wonky but this issue may be fixed with changing my "push" hours (which is retarded to have factory set to only push email between 8am - 8pm).
Question for the smart kids in the class: When does the phone reach "deep sleep"? Is it around ~45mins after the screen turns off?
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I also have the dual core mod which I BELIEVE sets my deep sleep right away which is probably why I have the problem more often than you do. One question just so we can start gathering facts large scale, if you're on 3G do you have the problem still? What if you turn 'best wi-fi performance'?
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I also have the dual core mod which I BELIEVE sets my deep sleep right away which is probably why I have the problem more often than you do. One question just so we can start gathering facts large scale, if you're on 3G do you have the problem still? What if you turn 'best wi-fi performance'?
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Correct - I have this problem on 3G. I run on only 3G because the problem is more prevalent on WiFi, but still very common on only 3G.
Currently I have "best wifi performance" turned off. Do you want me to test with it on or off?
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Correct - I have this problem on 3G. I run on only 3G because the problem is more prevalent on WiFi, but still very common on only 3G.
Currently I have "best wifi performance" turned off. Do you want me to test with it on or off?
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On. When I turn it on it pretty much eliminates the issue, it acts just like 3G. But for me 3G is almost perfect (a couple seconds of delay but I can deal with that). Remember though that if you leave it ticked on it will destroy your battery life.
WiFi is on, best WiFi performance is on as well.. I'll run it this way a couple of days and see if I can replicate the problem.
I just wanted to say that I've been having similar issues. I have tried turning on best wifi performance, but I don't think that is helping. For one thing, when I have that turned on, when I wake the phone, the wifi is often times not connected, and it shows 3G. Then it will connect to wifi shortly after I wake the phone. On top of that, I'm still not getting notifications on time. I was notified of an email when I woke the phone that actually came in 10 minutes earlier. Hopefully HTC/Sprint is aware and working on a fix.
Still no fix but I have discovered that for some reason if the screen is off ANY data doesn't go through. Let me explain better:
If I have some thing like Pandora running then it will continue to run once I shut my screen off. But if WiFi isn't being used and I turn my screen off and then lets say I try to connect to it with Cerberus or ping it from my PC or something it will not even though the router reports it as connected.
Very strange behavior.
Please explain me, I just dont understand the settings. What's the difference between 3 options: always, only when plugged in, never? I see that regardless of either option WIFI stays on during sleep. It is clearly seen from statistics. So what's the use of it?
Come on people, I can't believe nobody cares. Did I ask something stupid?
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Come on people, I can't believe nobody cares. Did I ask something stupid?
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well perhaps no one have seen your post.
anyway, i just saw that feature a while ago, and i think what it means is:
when your phone screen turns off (your phone is asleep because you're not using it), wifi connection gets disconnected -- to conserve battery.
the options are:
always (default) - will keep wifi connection turned on, no matter what
only wen plugged in - well, wifi connection will keep on ONLY when the device is plugged in.
never (increases data usage) - as soon as the device sleeps, it will disconnect from wifi, and possibly conneted to data network, hence the warning.
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Please explain me, I just dont understand the settings. What's the difference between 3 options: always, only when plugged in, never? I see that regardless of either option WIFI stays on during sleep. It is clearly seen from statistics. So what's the use of it?
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1. Always on even if screen is off (DS WiFi ON)
2. Only when charging WiFi is still on (DS WiFi ON while connected to USB or AC charger and DS WiFi OFF when disconnected from external power source)
3. Never online while in deep sleep - disconnecting WiFi in Deep Sleep (DS WiFi OFF)
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Dear friends. Thank you for your replies but I suspect you didn't get the point. Again, regardless of one of these three settings WiFi is still ON during sleep. Try to set it to "never" (given that global WiFi switch is on of course, thus it should go to sleep along with device), disable your mobile data and run Skype for example. After your phone has fallen asleep you still online in Skype and available to receive calls. You're still on WIFI! It doesn't switch off when phone sleeps!
I know this is an old thread but did you manage to figure this out? This has recently been bugging me too. Thanks!
If wifi doesn't disconnect when it's set to "never", maybe your phone doesn't go to deep sleep properly.
It'd be good if we could read somewhere what this "deep sleep" really is..
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It'd be good if we could read somewhere what this "deep sleep" really is..
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Google it is always the best .
jje
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If wifi doesn't disconnect when it's set to "never", maybe your phone doesn't go to deep sleep properly.
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I agree! phone may not go in deep sleep even after switching off screen.
And also also this question is really not stupid, but I say google is stupid, that he assume we have a data plan active always. I have wifi at home and office, so am not activating data plan. So I was having the same question/confusion about this option!
Keep wifi on during sleep -> never, so how come it increase data usage?? data means not data transferred through wifi but sim card internet!! Ha ha ha..
Google should clarify it that when phone is connected to wifi, it will not use sim card internet, but if wifi is off and mobile data plan is active, android will use sim card internet.
Also I'd like to add that wifi signal itself is not eating much memory, but in most of case, fb/gmail/google+/twitter etc which are always internet crazy (hungry) will not let your phone asleep. and they eat memory. if wifi is off then we can have two option, 3G and 2G phone internet. 3G signals eat more battery, and 2G internet use more battery because of slow speed.
Background activities option came in picture with invention of smart phone, but always misused by google+ and facebook!!!!
I always hate fb android app, it is too slow in 2G and surfing site in Opera mini is way too fast and handy, anyway that was my taste.
Take a look at green power app as this handles 3g/WiFi connectivity very well. Much better than juice defender
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