I just renewed to a Rezound last week and still have the opportunity to return it within the 14 days. Should I make the switch?
No question. Unless you want/need the Rezounds bigger (and better, yes) display, there is no reason to keep the Rezound. The Inc 4G is better in every other way.
(If you're on unlimited data though, you can't... just throwing that out there)
depends what matters to you...rezound has the better screen, and similar/worse specs in about everything else
rezound already has numerous roms and such and will always have a bigger community, but its being killed off daily by bickering/trolls...a bunch of devs left in the last 2 weeks alone
$150 on contract online, im jumping on this today.
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$150 on contract online, im jumping on this today.
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check out bestbuy or wirefly, both are 99
I vote for the inc because the rezound weighs 50 pounds
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check out bestbuy or wirefly, both are 99
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wirefly also has 4GB data for $30 instead of VZW 2GB for $30. (unless maybe verizon is running a special too?)
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wirefly also has 4GB data for $30 instead of VZW 2GB for $30. (unless maybe verizon is running a special too?)
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i think wirefly hasnt updated their system yet, id imagine ull get contacted by verizon when you go in to the store to activate (assuming u need a sim)
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depends what matters to you...rezound has the better screen, and similar/worse specs in about everything else
rezound already has numerous roms and such and will always have a bigger community, but its being killed off daily by bickering/trolls...a bunch of devs left in the last 2 weeks alone
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The Rezound is a better phone it has GSM radios meaning it can be used on Att or Tmobile or most europen carriers, and it has S-Off already.
The community is full of bickering and stuff but none of the Devs left because of that
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The Rezound is a better phone it has GSM radios meaning it can be used on Att or Tmobile or most europen carriers, and it has S-Off already.
The community is full of bickering and stuff but none of the Devs left because of that
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1) lte is gsm based technology
2) inc 4g is capable of being used on gsm
3) neither rezound nor inc 4g are officially gsm enabled by verizon
4) whatever hacks/changes that are used to get gsm going on rezound would most likely work for inc 4g
5) regardless of why the left, some are leaving (bored disappeared, joelz is selling his, con has a gnex as his primary)...the community is just horrid too...read one thread and you want to vomit
so glad i didnt buy a rezound when it was a penny on amazon for adding a line....almost pulled the trigger cuz i wanted to work on it, but im sure i would have just ended up bitter and frustrated w/ the other devs, the trolls, and community at large
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1) lte is gsm based technology
2) inc 4g is capable of being used on gsm
3) neither rezound nor inc 4g are officially gsm enabled by verizon
4) whatever hacks/changes that are used to get gsm going on rezound would most likely work for inc 4g
5) regardless of why the left, some are leaving (bored disappeared, joelz is selling his, con has a gnex as his primary)...the community is just horrid too...read one thread and you want to vomit
so glad i didnt buy a rezound when it was a penny on amazon for adding a line....almost pulled the trigger cuz i wanted to work on it, but im sure i would have just ended up bitter and frustrated w/ the other devs, the trolls, and community at large
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Not to mention, none of those things were even a convincing argument that "The Rezound is a better phone" anyway.
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No question. Unless you want/need the Rezounds bigger (and better, yes) display, there is no reason to keep the Rezound. The Inc 4G is better in every other way.
(If you're on unlimited data though, you can't... just throwing that out there)
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Thats wrong
They just let me do that. I ordered the Galaxy Nexus last week (on the 27th) Verizon just let me swap for this phone a few minutes ago. I got dinged with the $35 restocking fee, but IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR CONTRACT since they process it as an exchange so I get to keep my unlimited!
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1) lte is gsm based technology
duh! Everyone knows that
2) inc 4g is capable of being used on gsm
ok
3) neither rezound nor inc 4g are officially gsm enabled by verizon
yet
4) whatever hacks/changes that are used to get gsm going on rezound would most likely work for inc 4g
im not so sure about that....
5) regardless of why the left, some are leaving (bored disappeared, joelz is selling his, con has a gnex as his primary)...the community is just horrid too...read one thread and you want to vomit
its really not as bad as everyone says.... And bored left because of family trouble, and Joelz left because of school, and we still have newt (on the mikmik) and eris (the guy who fixed GB RIL on the Thunderbolt) is getting a Rezound
so glad i didnt buy a rezound when it was a penny on amazon for adding a line....almost pulled the trigger cuz i wanted to work on it, but im sure i would have just ended up bitter and frustrated w/ the other devs, the trolls, and community at large
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My stuff in bold
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Not to mention, none of those things were even a convincing argument that "The Rezound is a better phone" anyway.
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It has a much better display and I didn't know the inc had gsm. And it has s-off. Judging by you two, I think this community will be just as bad as the Rezound's. Jeez
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Peace, Love, Unicorns and Rainbows. Nit is one of my favorite devs. Let's keep this forum chill like the Dinc2. Good times ...
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The OG Dinc's forums were great too. I just really want a phone worth the upgrade like my Dinc was. This I'd my first android phone and aafter 2 year ls, its still great. My question for you all is: is the Dinc 4G a great, no wait, incredible, phone?
Also, is the S4 underclocked to 1.2 or rated at 1.2?
Thanks for reading that entire post
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Well I think the Rez got GSM sms via developers using Sensation XE files and what not. Not sure if that method really could be used with the Incredible 4G as it has an S4 processor with a different implementation of LTE. Does the EVO LTE have GSM, and if have they tried the hack method?
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Well I think the Rez got GSM sms via developers using Sensation XE files and what not. Not sure if that method really could be used with the Incredible 4G as it has an S4 processor with a different implementation of LTE. Does the EVO LTE have GSM, and if have they tried the hack method?
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The att one x does, which uses a similar chip
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It has a much better display and I didn't know the inc had gsm. And it has s-off. Judging by you two, I think this community will be just as bad as the Rezound's. Jeez
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Lol, sure.... :good:
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God, you guys are assholes
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how are we aholes? you came into this forum and said the rezound is a better phone based on "it has gsm"
you didnt like responses to it and got defensive
since you dont seem to be amongst those getting the device, and you dislike those posting here, then dont see the point
So about the original purpose of the thread, which was a fact-based comparison between two phones... and not senseless name-calling of developers...
I'd go ahead and exchange the phone. Even with a smaller developer community than the Rezound, we've already got some quality names on board (nit especially--if you like MIUI, you're guaranteed to have a great maintainer granted that we reach the point where it works on this device), so this phone is definitely future-proof. It's lighter, it's got a better processor, it doesn't seem to be prone to overheating at all, and I vastly prefer the form factor (I checked out the Rezound in the VZW store and was disappointed to find it very blocky). Unless you really need a 4.3" screen or can't wait for a new developer community to grow, the switch just makes sense.
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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the Photon 4G is no longer offered as a choice on Sprint's website. The OG Epic 4G is even still there, but no Photon, it's missing in action...
Yes, Since the Photon 4G will can not support Sprint's LTE network, they have discontinued it. Phones that are only 3g are still there but the ones that could not be upgraded to support the LTE network have been discontinued and removed.
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Yes, Since the Photon 4G will can not support Sprint's LTE network, they have discontinued it. Phones that are only 3g are still there but the ones that could not be upgraded to support the LTE network have been discontinued and removed.
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Well, that would make sense except they are still offering the original Epic 4G. So maybe it's Motorola and not Sprint.
I have not looked into the Epic at all. Can that phone be upgraded to be LTE? I know that the Photon can not.
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I have not looked into the Epic at all. Can that phone be upgraded to be LTE? I know that the Photon can not.
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No, not at all. I still have both. Only will do WiMAX.
well, either way, The photon has been removed from Sprint's store for almost a month now. There were theories that there was going to be another motorola super phone released in the near future, but those have yet to be confirmed from what I have seen.
I got the Photon this past September and as of 6/1/12 the Sprint website says I can uprade at discount prices on a new 2 year contract. Is this normal, or did they change their upgrade policy? Is anyone else seeing early update options?
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well, either way, The photon has been removed from Sprint's store for almost a month now. There were theories that there was going to be another motorola super phone released in the near future, but those have yet to be confirmed from what I have seen.
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I just now noticed it missing. LOL. There is rumor of a "Photon Q 4G" on the horizon with a slide out keyboard.
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I got the Photon this past September and as of 6/1/12 the Sprint website says I can uprade at discount prices on a new 2 year contract. Is this normal, or did they change their upgrade policy? Is anyone else seeing early update options?
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Were you a sprint premier customer before they got rid of it?
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Were you a sprint premier customer before they got rid of it?
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Not that I am aware of. I don't even really know what Sprint Premier is. I was wondering if maybe they did this for all Photon owners but no one else mentioned anything. Or maybe I just got lucky and it's a goof up.
Complete Goof-up
340 days for my upgrade still.
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Yes, Since the Photon 4G will can not support Sprint's LTE network, they have discontinued it. Phones that are only 3g are still there but the ones that could not be upgraded to support the LTE network have been discontinued and removed.
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With all due respect, your comment doesn't make sense. As the OP states, the Epic 4G doesn't support LTE either (and can't be upgraded to it), but is still there.
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With all due respect, your comment doesn't make sense. As the OP states, the Epic 4G doesn't support LTE either (and can't be upgraded to it), but is still there.
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Lmaoooo
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From what I have read this is the conclusion I come up with...
Sprint needed to clear up some room in the phone lineup for upcoming LTE devices. They need to keep a certain range of phones for each category: budget, mainstream, and power user. The Photon was in the power user (top tier) category. Since they have the new EVO and will be getting the SGS3 as well as a few others, bundled with the fact that the Photon was probably one of lesser selling devices (especially since the release of the SGS2) it makes sense that the Photon was discontinued.
Of course we all know the reason why the Photon was not successful is because of the lack of marketing on Sprint's part and the lack of push by sales team within Sprint. I'm sure if someone came into the store and there was the Epic Touch and Photon sitting side-by-side the typical sales person would push the Samsung first.
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From what I have read this is the conclusion I come up with...
Sprint needed to clear up some room in the phone lineup for upcoming LTE devices. They need to keep a certain range of phones for each category: budget, mainstream, and power user. The Photon was in the power user (top tier) category. Since they have the new EVO and will be getting the SGS3 as well as a few others, bundled with the fact that the Photon was probably one of lesser selling devices (especially since the release of the SGS2) it makes sense that the Photon was discontinued.
Of course we all know the reason why the Photon was not successful is because of the lack of marketing on Sprint's part and the lack of push by sales team within Sprint. I'm sure if someone came into the store and there was the Epic Touch and Photon sitting side-by-side the typical sales person would push the Samsung first.
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When i worked for sprint I pushed for people to buy the photon very hard, and i had a lot of successful sales with it when i showed them mine in action, no one ever brought one back
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If it wasn't for the signal issues with the SGS2, I would have gotten that. When I saw that it had been almost three months at the time and the signal issues hadn't been fixed, I decided against it. When I saw them side-by-side in the store, the SGS2 had a nicer looking screen, and the Photon was very jittery when I'd swipe from one screen to the next. Ultimately, I'm really glad I got the Photon. However, I remember talking to a lot of friends who had the same first impression of it.
I got the photon from Target mobile because it was $50 with my upgrade, and the SGS2 was $200. But the rep pushed me hard into anything but the Photon. He first pushed the SGS2, then the Evo 3D, and then encouraged me to look at an iPhone instead of the Photon. I was actually really discouraged until I got it home and realized what a badass it was!
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I got the photon from Target mobile because it was $50 with my upgrade, and the SGS2 was $200. But the rep pushed me hard into anything but the Photon. He first pushed the SGS2, then the Evo 3D, and then encouraged me to look at an iPhone instead of the Photon. I was actually really discouraged until I got it home and realized what a badass it was!
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Yeah, that's too bad. I still have my photon and was hoping for ICS goodness, but it was pushed back to Q4 2012 and likely won't get it. This is the only reason I went with the GNex. I hate bloat, but I do love my photon. It is interesting how Sprint is only interested in HTC and Samsung first before any other Android, except now pushing LG viper, but I bet that'll be a red-headed step child soon.
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Yeah, that's too bad. I still have my photon and was hoping for ICS goodness, but it was pushed back to Q4 2012 and likely won't get it. This is the only reason I went with the GNex. I hate bloat, but I do love my photon. It is interesting how Sprint is only interested in HTC and Samsung first before any other Android, except now pushing LG viper, but I bet that'll be a red-headed step child soon.
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It will get it
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Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
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Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
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Its the best choice for and upgrade out right now and it is unlockable via HTC dev unlock and if u get the first hboot.(.12 I believe) you can via lazy panda
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>Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Yes, it is. One of my good friends has a Droid X, so I used it quite a bit when he was rooting it, and I've seen him using it a lot. The Evo 3D is better than the Droid X, and this phone is leaps ahead of the Evo 3D. The screen on this phone is much, much better than the screen on the Droid X, resolution and quality-wise.
>Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
If you get an EVO that hasn't been updated beyond the bootloader version 1.12, you can use LazyPanda to S-OFF it, giving you full control of the device. If the phone you get is running an updated bootloader (highly likely if you're purchasing it new), you will only be able to use the HTC Dev unlock method. This method will still allow you to flash ROMs, but you won't be able to flash radios. On top of that, if you want to flash a new kernel or a ROM that requires a different kernel (IE: Going from a Sense ROM to CM10 requires you to have an AOSP-based kernel) you'll have to use fastboot to flash it, or a program like Flash IMG GUI. If you don't do that, you won't be able to boot the phone after flashing the ROM.
If you're lucky and you can S-OFF your phone, you won't have to worry about that though.
>Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Do you mean as a Wi-Fi tether? Yes, it can. I believe there are even non-root solutions for that now. You can pay through Sprint to get it, or just use a third party app to do it.
>Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
A tip: Get a case. It doesn't have to be an Otterbox Stupid Huge 3000, but at least something that covers the phone a bit. I have this case and it's great. It doesn't add much bulk to the phone but it at least keeps it safe. I know that the Droid X is a tank of a phone that can withstand just about anything (I've seen my friend literally throw his phone at the floor and pick it up right afterwards with no problems), but this phone is a bit more delicate. You can go without a case if you want, but if you get the right case, you'll hardly even notice it.
My case is great because it helps me hold the phone. It's so thin and tall that it's a bit slippery in your hand. The case solves that problem.
Another tip, is to be prepared for a watered down multitasking experience if you keep your phone stock or run Sense ROMs. I've seen mentions of developers making progress on improving it, but HTC tweaked the multitasking on this phone to be very aggressive, which causes apps to close themselves after a while. If you plan to run AOSP ROMs then you won't have to worry about that, and I'm sure the devs will fix it on Sense ROMs soon enoug.
Thanks to both posters for the added info. Looking into the process and trying to get "hooked up" to somehow get the BS activation fees waived of $36 which a Buddy of mine was able to pull off, although he went with the I-phone (blah) and another thing he said in order to get the insurance on the phone, had to pay an up front fee of $100 which covers the I-phone for life. Is this how sprint handles insurance on the Android Evo or is there another option similiar to what I'm paying Verizon with the extra $6 a month for Assuron or whatever??
Thanks again for all the help!
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>..............>Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
If you get an EVO that hasn't been updated beyond the bootloader version 1.12, you can use LazyPanda to S-OFF it, giving you full control of the device. If the phone you get is running an updated bootloader (highly likely if you're purchasing it new), you will only be able to use the HTC Dev unlock method. This method will still allow you to flash ROMs, but you won't be able to flash radios. On top of that, if you want to flash a new kernel or a ROM that requires a different kernel (IE: Going from a Sense ROM to CM10 requires you to have an AOSP-based kernel) you'll have to use fastboot to flash it, or a program like Flash IMG GUI. If you don't do that, you won't be able to boot the phone after flashing the ROM.
If you're lucky and you can S-OFF your phone, you won't have to worry about that though...............
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Ok, Went for it and came home with the HTC EVO 4G LTE which I quickly rooted/S-Off'd / Unlocked with LazyPanda succesfully and installed TWRP. Restored all my apps with TIBU! YaY! :laugh:
Need a recommendation for the best clean, battery quality, improvement over stock ROM out there so I can proceed into making this sucker as sweet as my Droid X once was. Hell, I ran that BootManager or whatever it's called on it and had like 7 Roms installed at once so I'm really into this tweaking and modding scene and just need some more tips / pointers on where to proceed with it at this point.
I realize I've voided my warranty, I'm sure. Not really a concern. They talked me into that $11 per month no hassle replacement insurance bull**** with a deductible of course so I'm ready to rock n roll! :victory:
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............Need a recommendation for the best clean, battery quality, improvement over stock ROM out there so I can proceed into making this sucker as sweet as my Droid X once was..........
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*bump* Anyone
Flexs stock with goodies, viper 4g and meanrom are my recommendations.
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Flexs stock with goodies, viper 4g and meanrom are my recommendations.
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Thanks.
I did find and flash via TWRP the: Radio 1.12.11.0809 (Only) from Jewels.
Now I'm wondering if I need this file instead? ---> PJ75IMG_Jewel_firmware_2.13.651.1.zip from his site.
Any bearing on the above mentioned ROMS and the pros/cons on doing this.
On a side note: I'm at my workplace and although it shows in "Excellent" via the Sprint coverage map, I'm stuck on roaming....
Thanks for all your help!
Only if its the one that doesn't contain kernel, recovery or h-boot
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The newest stock with goodies is amazing to say the lease the best multitasking Rom I've used of this phone
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The newest stock with goodies is amazing to say the lease the best multitasking Rom I've used of this phone
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Thanks! I currently had already went with the latest "meanrom" per other poster above. I did update all my kernal/radio ect... also as per discussion in the meanrom thread. All seems to be going well so far other than the dam "Roaming" triangle showing constantly at my workplace which is supposed to be dead center within and "Excellent" Sprint coverage area. Otherwise, I'm a little put out that I only get one bar in my home - I'm supposed to be on the fringe of a "Good" to "Fair" area as per the coverage map there. Time will tell. The rep did offer me something called AirAve that assists weak connections via my broadband cable internet connection as a possible option after 60 days of ****ty service if so required. I'm also signed up for their "Home Connect" as I didn't have a home # any longer and had just relied on my Verizon Wireless Droid X for all my calls. As my understanding this just adds $20 per month for the line charge with unlimited in/outbout calling AND gave me $100 off my EVO since I ended up with a total of 3 lines of service (add my girlfriend's LGE Rezound or whatever....)
Whew! This is getting to be quite the chore getting switched over. So far my impressions. Better phone in the EVO vs Droid X but ****tier / sporadic coverage. :silly:
Now that they have access to their 800mhz block they can kick up the vision roll out which is better for everyone
lazer9 said:
Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
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I currently have the HTC thunderbolt with unlimited data and I use the internet like there is no tomorrow probably 10-20gb a week is there anyway to upgrade without losing unlimited cause I was gonna purchase the HTC phablet "dlx" in a couple months and I really would not like to lose my unlimited data or I might consider switching to sprint
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I currently have the HTC thunderbolt with unlimited data and I use the internet like there is no tomorrow probably 10-20gb a week is there anyway to upgrade without losing unlimited cause I was gonna purchase the HTC phablet "dlx" in a couple months and I really would not like to lose my unlimited data or I might consider switching to sprint
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If you are talking about an option to upgrade and stay on Verizon Unlimited, the answer is no. The sole and main reason I left them.
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Yes, to om4: Please do post your guide right here in my thread if you would. I am very interested in any and all information regarding SPRINT and what to expect and what not to expect. I have 14 days to piss with this until I'm locked in as I'm told.
I have no idea what the 800mhz block is and if it would even make it to my area? I live in Western PA - Hermitage 16148 to be exact and work in New Castle PA, 16105 if that is helpful to anything and knowledge of the 800mhz block...
I've already been told that 4G is not even on the landscape (map) currently for any of my area.
The 800mhz spectrum is what Verizon currently uses it provides better coverage. Sprint has 800mhz spectrum as well but its currently being used by nextel. Sprint has been preparing to make the switch to use the 800mhz spectrum for some time. It provides better signal penetration. My guide is in the thread named don't panic, it pertains to android rather then sprint lol
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The 800mhz spectrum is what Verizon currently uses it provides better coverage. Sprint has 800mhz spectrum as well but its currently being used by nextel. Sprint has been preparing to make the switch to use the 800mhz spectrum for some time. It provides better signal penetration. My guide is in the thread named don't panic, it pertains to android rather then sprint lol
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Thanks since I have used up my 8 Thanks for the day I guess in my barking in the MeanRom thread... :silly:
I wonder when this rollout to the 800mhz will take place. The only thing my local rep mentioned was something about two new towers going up between 4 to 8 miles from my residence in the coming future.
I think its part of the vision roll out but I'm not sure, another member posted instructions to force the lte to use the 800mhz spectrum and it worked for a few people but the majority who tried it got stuck roaming on Verizon
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I think its part of the vision roll out but I'm not sure, another member posted instructions to force the lte to use the 800mhz spectrum and it worked for a few people but the majority who tried it got stuck roaming on Verizon
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Yikes! Was that reversable for those people and where are the instructions in case I get brave? :cyclops:
I wouldnt recommend it, it broke roaming for a lot of people and it took a bit of tinkering before someone found a fix. I dont remember what it was either. Something in build.prop
Details here: http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/1...-smartphone-and-you-may-qualify-for-100-back/
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Old news, actually, and it's useless since you're out of pocket for the full cost and they'll reimburse you whenever (could be weeks, months later). Motorola blew it with this ICS fiasco and screwing people in the process. It's already been worked out that the so-called $100 rebate thing works out to like $25 or so in the long run, and it's just a joke overall.
You'll note that page linked above says "we’re planning to roll out Android 4.1 Jelly Bean to most of our devices first offered for sale in 2011 or later." and was just updated today, yet there is another page that's been up for weeks now that says the same thing but doesn't use the words "most of our" so, it's Motorola being stupid again. And it's not some damned typo either, but they can't be held to their own word and I and many other people are simply done with them for the most part.
I own a Photon and it'll be the last Motorola hardware I ever put actual cash into owning because of their flipflopping and basically lying to people over this whole situation.
If they want to give me a RAZR MAXX HD for all this crap, fine, I'd be happy to own one I suppose (even in spite of the many failings it has), but that's a foregone conclusion at this point.
Also, they changed it again apparently: originally it was going to be cash back to you in the form of a check and now they added that second section:
Provided in the form of a Verizon Wireless Gift Card, Motorola Visa Prepaid Card, carrier credit, or other equivalent at Motorola’s sole discretion.
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If it ain't actual cash in the pocket, it's pretty much useless to me.
Now it looks like we could only buy photon q if you stick with sprint
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motorola no more
This is total BS. They came up with win-win solution. Sell more new phones making $100 less in profit on each, and make it a lame excuse for eliminating upgrade development costs. This is such a blatant disregard of the existing customers. How is it possible that a phone released on August 19, 2011 became and stayed outdated exactly 2 months later, when ICS was announced on Oct 19, 2011
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Funny... I just posted a comment on the motorola-posts-list-of-phones-not-receiving-jelly-bean-confirms-which-phones-will-get-the-update page of the droid-life . com site. I said that JB upgrade table looks like ICS upgrade table a year ago. The one that got edited in Q3 2012 with Photon 4g no longer in it. My post stayed visible for 30 seconds and then was promptly removed
No real surprise, they can't even get the entire division on the same page, literally: one place says "most phones offered in 2011 and later" (which by using the word "most" gives them some room to maneuver with) and another page says "phones offered in 2011 and later" which means every phone they released in 2011 and up to this point in time.
That really irks me for some reason, it's the literal interpretation of the left side of the mouth doesn't know what the right side is saying.
Why even worry about that BS buyback program? If you have a MoPho, you're on Sprint and you have nothing coming from Motof**k. And the fact is, if you really want ca$h for your device, you'll get $150+ from eBay. Instead of whini g, we should do what we can to supportmymoto.com
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Why even worry about that BS buyback program? If you have a MoPho, you're on Sprint and you have nothing coming from Motof**k.
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Well, no, I'm not on Sprint, and many people like me aren't either considering the Photon is unlockable for domestic GSM use in the US (even though Sprint really didn't/doesn't like that happening). I use T-Mobile without issues, and I didn't get this phone from Sprint either so for me, Sprint is 100% irrelevant in this situation.
As for selling it, I've got mine listed on craigslist for $100 right now because I don't deal with eBay/PayPal and their ripoff tactics, plus I'd prefer cash in the hand but, still no bites. Sooner or later someone will most likely contact me about it - I mean a dual core smartphone for $100... what's not to love?
I'm just curious as to whether I'll be able to trade my Photon for $100 toward a Verizon Moto phone; if they'll allow me to get the rebate while crossing carriers. I'm done with Sprint in March when my contract comes up, but I still love Motorola. Not even sure if I'd need to root, as the main two reasons I root are for free hotspot and titanium backup, and I didn't even use titanium backup last time I went back to stock. I do love the Razr Maxx HD for its battery life and screen, and I still like Moto for the quality and reception.
^ Motorola doesn't care if you cross carriers. You just have to send in your Photon. So as long as you buy the new phone, they don't care. I'd leave under good terms, they might not honor the rebate if the ESN is bad. So yes, you could trade it towards a Verizon phone.
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I'm just curious as to whether I'll be able to trade my Photon for $100 toward a Verizon Moto phone; if they'll allow me to get the rebate while crossing carriers. I'm done with Sprint in March when my contract comes up, but I still love Motorola. Not even sure if I'd need to root, as the main two reasons I root are for free hotspot and titanium backup, and I didn't even use titanium backup last time I went back to stock. I do love the Razr Maxx HD for its battery life and screen, and I still like Moto for the quality and reception.
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100 bucks is a horrible trade in value
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What if you could apply it towards an HTC instead?
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100 bucks is a horrible trade in value
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Not when your phone has cracked housing and scratched screen and you are very definitely in a Verizon area with not a lot of Sprint customers (Arkansas used to be Alltel headquarters until VZ bought them). I've seen photons nearly identical to the condition of mine on ebay for 125. I won't be able to trade mine in until March when my contract is up and the phone will devalue further. At that time, if the phone is still in the same condition it is now, I might be able to get a few extra bucks off ebay or maybe Craigslist if I get someone stupid, but the convenience of just handing it to the VZ person and getting my 100 bucks off a RAZR MAXX HD beats the effort behind making an extra 10 to 20 bucks.
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What if you could apply it towards an HTC instead?
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Just my personal taste... the Photon is my favorite phone I've ever had, and I have always liked the Moto smartphones (except for the QWERTY's) but I couldn't get them before because I was on Sprint. I didn't like my wife's HTC, and I didn't like my Epic 4g, my wife's Nexus S 4G, or my friend's Epic Touch. All had signal issues. The Photon is awesome with reception, and my buddy's Moto phones have always been the same.
I don't feel so betrayed by the lack of upgrade to ICS. The phone works fine until my contract is up and I can get away from Sprint.
So I MAY get the HOX+ when the funds are available. I'm a broke ass college student and I am really interested in getting the phone to help out more around here. However, I'm deciding on what to get. I'm on T-Mobile USA and they are almost done refarming their network in the Chicago market so I can get HSPA+ "4G" on it. T-Mobile should also be rolling out LTE next year as well.
Int'l model - Logically, much more development since it is in multiple countries
AT&T model - Warranty will be easier to do if anything happens and it'll have LTE.
Steer me to the right direction. Please and Thank you.
I don't know how it goes in the US but in Germany LTE is not widely available yet, and also the costs are much higher than with 3G.
I live in the city and would have LTE available here at home and when out and about, but it would be 27€ more per month for 24 month. So, my usage profile would just not make sense. I travel a lot on the high spped train ICE and 98% of the time there is only 2G available anyways, with 3G only in stations along the track when it stops. 3G is more than sufficient when I am out around town.
So, for me LTE is a waste of money (27€ x24month contract=648€ on top of my regular contract)
If the costs are closer to a regular 3G contract in the US I would go with LTE of course, just to have the latest!
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So I MAY get the HOX+ when the funds are available. I'm a broke ass college student and I am really interested in getting the phone to help out more around here. However, I'm deciding on what to get. I'm on T-Mobile USA and they are almost done refarming their network in the Chicago market so I can get HSPA+ "4G" on it. T-Mobile should also be rolling out LTE next year as well.
Int'l model - Logically, much more development since it is in multiple countries
AT&T model - Warranty will be easier to do if anything happens and it'll have LTE.
Steer me to the right direction. Please and Thank you.
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I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
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I don't know how it goes in the US but in Germany LTE is not widely available yet, and also the costs are much higher than with 3G.
I live in the city and would have LTE available here at home and when out and about, but it would be 27€ more per month for 24 month. So, my usage profile would just not make sense. I travel a lot on the high spped train ICE and 98% of the time there is only 2G available anyways, with 3G only in stations along the track when it stops. 3G is more than sufficient when I am out around town.
So, for me LTE is a waste of money (27€ x24month contract=648€ on top of my regular contract)
If the costs are closer to a regular 3G contract in the US I would go with LTE of course, just to have the latest!
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Even if I got either HOX+, I will be stuck on 2G until T-Mobile changes part of their network.
LTE isn't out yet for T-Mobile so I can't mention on the price structure for it.
What I am really worrying about it warranty. If it's a manufacturer defect, I can send it to HTC in Texas to get it repaired. I'm pushing towards the AT&T model since it is also a bit cheaper by ~$40
You should get the AT&T one. That would be the best for development in general. Especially for you US boys
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I am getting the AT&T HOX+ over the weekend. The only difference between the two is LTE, but you have TMobile. If warranty is a big deal for you, get the AT&T.
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I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
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I really wanna try LTE. T-Mobile has a great network so I know LTE will be a killer!
I guess I must've missed that lol. Didn't know they were pitching in for the AT&T model.
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You should get the AT&T one. That would be the best for development in general. Especially for you US boys
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Int'l models are usually more popular since it is widely available. That's why I hope the dev would be good.
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I am getting the AT&T HOX+ over the weekend. The only difference between the two is LTE, but you have TMobile. If warranty is a big deal for you, get the AT&T.
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Yeah. I was thinking about it. May just get the AT&T model when prices drop and I get more cash. I'm still far away from my goal in buying it lol
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I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
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I got shut out of the N4 on Google's release day. But I had an S3 (sold it) and have LTE in my area so I picked up the One X+.
I am SO glad I did. It is one awesome device. Super fast and smoother than the S3. Better screen, camera, etc.
It made me realize that once you have access to LTE it makes no sense to revert back to hspa+. Take advantage of the technology as we are paying for the monthly service.
If I was not located in a AT&T LTE area, I would still pull the trigger because they are launching new markets like crazy. I have had LTE for months and they never announced it was available. They light up markets for testing sometimes months before they make it official and users.
Hope this helps.
The AT&T version seems to be the best bet! LTE is widespread
Thanks everyone!
Now, the issue is the money.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-xplus-carbon-black.html
Price of phone w/o contract w/ tax included = $603.61 (549.99 * 9.75%)
PayPal balance = $15.88
Amount needed = $587.73
This is going to take some time... lol
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Even if I got either HOX+, I will be stuck on 2G until T-Mobile changes part of their network.
LTE isn't out yet for T-Mobile so I can't mention on the price structure for it.
What I am really worrying about it warranty. If it's a manufacturer defect, I can send it to HTC in Texas to get it repaired. I'm pushing towards the AT&T model since it is also a bit cheaper by ~$40
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I'm considering the same thing too. It looks T-mobile will deploy the LTE on AWS band same as AT&T, so this phone is more "future-proof" than Nexus 4. How do I get it carrier unlocked if i get one from AT&T store though?
Those of us state side need a DEV that has our device. If someone wants to start a "fund raiser" thread to get you an AT&T HOX+ you can count me in for $50.
Edit: I also have a line that is early upgrade eligible so that would be $100 off the device if that helps. If we can get the funds up I have a way I can get this too you Hasoon2000. Just PM me.
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Those of us state side need a DEV that has our device. If someone wants to start a "fund raiser" thread to get you an AT&T HOX+ you can count me in for $50.
Edit: I also have a line that is early upgrade eligible so that would be $100 off the device if that helps. If we can get the funds up I have a way I can get this too you Hasoon2000. Just PM me.
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I'd hate to burst your bubble. I'm not really a ROM dev. I know some basics. If you guys want me to learn and have it as a device to practice on, I wouldn't mind. However, do not expect quick results.
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I'd hate to burst your bubble. I'm not really a ROM dev. I know some basics. If you guys want me to learn and have it as a device to practice on, I wouldn't mind. However, do not expect quick results.
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Last time I checked. XDA didn't give out recognised dev titles to people who only knew the basics I think your being a tad modest lol
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Last time I checked. XDA didn't give out recognised dev titles to people who only knew the basics I think your being a tad modest lol
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Haha. Remember, we all have our own specialties. I'd love to learn and help you guys out. I haven't posted in the Amaze forums for a few days now. I live here instead lol
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Thanks everyone!
Now, the issue is the money.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-xplus-carbon-black.html
Price of phone w/o contract w/ tax included = $603.61 (549.99 * 9.75%)
PayPal balance = $15.88
Amount needed = $587.73
This is going to take some time... lol
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Honestly if you were to start a donate post many would help you get one for your anti brick noob toolkit that has saved many from bricking their devices. You have contributed greatly to the android community and well deserving of the help, I myself even though not a noob have used it in the past for the convenience of it alone.
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Honestly if you were to start a donate post many would help you get one for your anti brick noob toolkit that has saved many from bricking their devices. You have contributed greatly to the android community and well deserving of the help, I myself even though not a noob have used it in the past for the convenience of it alone.
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It would be selfish if I made that type of thread. If you guys believe in it, you guys can do it for me. I'll just wait to save up money or when the price drops.
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It would be selfish if I made that type of thread. If you guys believe in it, you guys can do it for me. I'll just wait to save up money or when the price drops.
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I agree with this. The person looking for the device should NEVER start the asking. Nothing but trouble. Seen it before.
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I agree with this. The person looking for the device should NEVER start the asking. Nothing but trouble. Seen it before.
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I completely agree. That's why I said if people would want to make a thread for me, then I'm fine with it. However, I won't ask people to give me money.
Let me start off by saying I'm an EVO/HTC fan, and not an employee of HTC or Sprint...
After years of no 4g for Original EVO, 3D and now the LTE in a large city in South Florida, I finally get fed up enough to call HTC USA, because if I'm not getting 4g, I at least want to JB. After stopping several support individuals and managers from reading from their script, I finally got an answer that floored me. Do to the different processor and chipset in our phone, HTC has not even released a JB source to Sprint. While the agent was VERY careful to never use the word NEVER, he basically said they have no current plans to release JB for the dual core USA/Sprint model, which is why we were left off the upgrade list in the first place.
Other models of the One series have already received at least a prep download for JB. If Sprint doesn't at least have the initial download to prepare our phone for JB, it doesn't look too good for us.
I think Sprint and HTC have no intention to release JB to us, and we need to accept it. I hope I'm wrong, but it was the most info I have ever received from HTC.
Lucy, you have some splaning to do!
They find the MSM8960 different? The rep may have stopped reading his "script", but may have made up a new 1.
I really hope you are right. Today was the first day I actually felt it wasn't going to happen.
I never thought Samsung would be better at pushing patches out to the public.
If it is true, my support with HTC will be finished. If Sprint can't get lte near Ft. Lauderdale by year's end, I might finally switch providers after 12 years. I've paid a premium to be an early adopter, phone-wise, and have never seen any type of 4g signal. Even worse, the 3g signal has become almost unusable. Unlimited crap is just that, a lot of crap. I'll be willing to bet, when 4g finally becomes the standard for sprint, it will be the end of unlimited.
I've stuck around because MeanRom makes my phone fly. Of course the data speed is out of his control.
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I really hope you are right. Today was the first day I actually felt it wasn't going to happen.
I never thought Samsung would be better at pushing patches out to the public.
If it is true, my support with HTC will be finished. If Sprint can't get lte near Ft. Lauderdale by year's end, I might finally switch providers after 12 years. I've paid a premium to be an early adopter, phone-wise, and have never seen any type of 4g signal. Even worse, the 3g signal has become almost unusable. Unlimited crap is just that, a lot of crap. I'll be willing to bet, when 4g finally becomes the standard for sprint, it will be the end of unlimited.
I've stuck around because MeanRom makes my phone fly. Of course the data speed is out of his control.
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there currently is LTE coverage in the Lauderdale area according to Sensorly. The airport is covered in it, sections of I-95, Broadview Park. Just give it time, deployment isn't that quick.
I keep saying the Evo LTE is still a different product line to HTC and Sprint, no matter how many similarities there are with the HOX. From a project and product management perspective, each device will have it's own requirements, development schedule, deliverables, etc. Then each carrier adds another set of differences. We can never expect to have everything the HOX gets. The HOX and HOS are their global handsets, and we're off in our own little US/Sprint only/Dual core/LTE world. I'll be glad if we ever get a JB upgrade, but we better not hold our breaths because we're just going to turn purple.
This doesn't make any sense...
F IT let's all go back to the HTC Hero for the Hell of it.
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F IT let's all go back to the HTC Hero for the Hell of it.
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I still got mine
So bc there is no leak you think they don't have a prep build they are working on?..... Come on use some logic bud, we are getting JB.
Locking this thread btw as xda is not a place to come and just have a complain fest like this will turn into, esp while there is a JB thread already.
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