Compared to the gs3, are there any phones with better screens in terms of colors and resolution?
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htc One X or One S series has awesome screen.
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Compared to the gs3, are there any phones with better screens in terms of colors and resolution?
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Having had One X for a month and S3 for two weeks, I would say One X's display is significantly better. Its the best on the market.
mehdi_s82 said:
Having had One X for a month and S3 for two weeks, I would say One X's display is significantly better. Its the best on the market.
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+1! I agree. Also came from AN HOX.
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The HTC one X. The one S screen is brighter but it's certainly not sharper than the GS3 and it's not better IMO. The gs3 has one of the best screens I have ever seen period. That's including tv's, tablets, computer monitors. I don't know what kind of special sauce Sammy used on it but it certainly looks nicer than the Galaxy Nexus screen even though on paper they're supposed to be extremely similar.
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The HTC one X. The one S screen is brighter but it's certainly not sharper than the GS3 and it's not better IMO. The gs3 has one of the best screens I have ever seen period. That's including tv's, tablets, computer monitors. I don't know what kind of special sauce Sammy used on it but it certainly looks nicer than the Galaxy Nexus screen even though on paper they're supposed to be extremely similar.
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Nexus has a pentile matrix (SAMOLED screen) while I believe the S3 has a SAMOLED+ screen which means there are more subpixels and a sharper screen than the Nexus.
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Nexus has a pentile matrix (SAMOLED screen) while I believe the S3 has a SAMOLED+ screen which means there are more subpixels and a sharper screen than the Nexus.
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The S3 does not have a Plus screen.
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Nexus has a pentile matrix (SAMOLED screen) while I believe the S3 has a SAMOLED+ screen which means there are more subpixels and a sharper screen than the Nexus.
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Negative. The SGS3 also has uses a pentile matrix sub array. Yet somehow even with a lower dpi they managed to make it look slightly sharper than the GNexus.
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Negative. The SGS3 also has uses a pentile matrix sub array. Yet somehow even with a lower dpi they managed to make it look slightly sharper than the GNexus.
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The G S III also has a bigger screen size, so its harder to detect. Though I agree, the screen is phenomenal with the brightness and the contrast and color depth.
the general consensus is that the One X slightly edges out the GS3, and of course apple's retina display is going to be superior to both of these (and smaller). but does it really matter?
my GS3 has a great screen. do i enjoy doing anything on my phone less because i don't have the best screen on the market? of course not. the GS3's screen does everything i need it do, and in my opinion does it very well.
...sorry to go off on a little tirade :silly: but seriously... GS3 is the best phone i have ever used by a wide margin..
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the general consensus is that the One X slightly edges out the GS3, and of course apple's retina display is going to be superior to both of these (and smaller). but does it really matter?
my GS3 has a great screen. do i enjoy doing anything on my phone less because i don't have the best screen on the market? of course not. the GS3's screen does everything i need it do, and in my opinion does it very well.
...sorry to go off on a little tirade :silly: but seriously... GS3 is the best phone i have ever used by a wide margin..
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Retina is just a fancy word for high dpi/ppi. And if that makes it better then the HTC Rezound has it trounced as it has more pixels per inch that the iphone. I think apple has lost serious ground when it comes to their screens. Not that theirs aren't good, but others have just caught up and surpassed it.
I have a sneaking suspicion that those of you who say the sgs3's display isn't bright enough simply haven't figured out how to toggle between the default auto-brightness and 100% brightness.
I leave mine at 100%, the automatic just doesn't do it for me.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that those of you who say the sgs3's display isn't bright enough simply haven't figured out how to toggle between the default auto-brightness and 100% brightness.
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Nope, I had my S3 next to an Evo 4GLTE and the Evo is significantly brighter. With 100% brightness, and even moreso on automatic. The blacks are blacker than Evo, but the whites are blue/grayish in comparison.
Also, holding my S3 next to my S2 with the same exact launcher, wallpaper, and icon arrangement, this is what I can say with absolute confidence: the S3 resolution rocks, the S2 contrast is far superior, and the S3 is still lacking in the brightness department. Icons look washed out but text is way sharper.
Definitely one x/evo got a r screen on resolution and sometimes colors(depending if you want more natural colors) I but I'm loving this screen I like black as wallpapers and themes as well and I'm loving this screen and the phone as well
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I leave mine at 100%, the automatic just doesn't do it for me.
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Do you have battery issues with 100% of brightness on your screen?
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The One X does have a nice screen, but the only thing it has over the S3 is it's little sharper. I have both, and I think the Amoled is just a better overall display. The contrast just makes this thing pop and a joy to look at. Because of the backlight and lack of contrast, I always felt the One X's display was somewhat lacking. This is coming from a guy that hates pentile displays!
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The One X does have a nice screen, but the only thing it has over the S3 is it's little sharper. I have both, and I think the Amoled is just a better overall display. The contrast just makes this thing pop and a joy to look at. Because of the backlight and lack of contrast, I always felt the One X's display was somewhat lacking. This is coming from a guy that hates pentile displays!
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Agree. I can't see those pentiles at 320dpi. Can you? Plus Amoled is like plasma vs LCD. Plasma rulezz!
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Agree. I can't see those pentiles at 320dpi. Can you? Plus Amoled is like plasma vs LCD. Plasma rulezz!
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It's 306 DPI I think. There's still some visible pentile, but I only notice it in bed.
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I had the one x for a week and returned it to get the gs3. Ive had all galaxy S's and even tho some say that Sammy colors can be a bit over saturated I don't mind. Actually I think that's the reason the Sammy screens are so pleasant to look at. The only thing I believe the HOX screen is way better on than the gs3 is how great it looks in direct sunlight. Other than that I just missed Sammy touches
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Just bought an amaze. And I see that I have a bad screen bleed, also one dead pixel. Anybody else have the same issue?
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Nope I don't have any dead pixels or screen bleed .
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I take that back, its not actually screen bleed. When the lights at the bottom of the phone light up I get the screen bleed effect.
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Oh so its fine now right ?
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Not really lol. But its better cause when watching videos those keys will not be illuminated
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I tried three different ones before I gave up. All of them had that with the lights. When on they bled up the bottom of the screen. You can really notice it when the screen is dark or black background.
yea mine has it and all the ones i tried did so exchanging it wont result in anything it appears
I only have screen bleeding issue when screen isn't on full brightness. Doesn't really bother me.
I posted this in another thread, but I took some pictures of the "screen bleed" (light from the buttons bleeding over into the screen) on my Amaze 4G. I also put up some pictures of my Nexus S, which has the same button configuration, but zero screen bleed:
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I only have screen bleeding issue when screen isn't on full brightness. Doesn't really bother me.
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Exactly. Doesn't bother me really. At least its not an issue that hinders the actual performance of the device like the epic 4g touch and its loss of signal issues that everyone is having.
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I posted this in another thread, but I took some pictures of the "screen bleed" (light from the buttons bleeding over into the screen) on my Amaze 4G. I also put up some pictures of my Nexus S, which has the same button configuration, but zero screen bleed:
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That picture is unfair to the HTC Amaze, the bezel is supposed to be the same color but it's a lot darker on the Nexus S picture.
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That picture is unfair to the HTC Amaze, the bezel is supposed to be the same color but it's a lot darker on the Nexus S picture.
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Hokay, I added more pics to my album. Sorry about the terrible shakycam, I don't have a tripod or anything, and flash screws everything up.
Here's the two side-by-side. One thing I noticed: the Nexus is absolutely fantastic at preserving the blacks. I'm sure this is due to a difference in backlight/screen tech, but it's really impressive - black is just black on the Nexus. The Amaze is much lighter grey when it's supposed to be "black". Here's the two side-by-side with the backlights at their lowest and highest settings:
But even without any backlight or bottom lights, the Nexus' screen is still noticeably blacker than the Amaze. I also added another picture I found elsewhere on the web with two versions of the Nexus S - it is just a difference in the screen tech (SuperLCD vs AMOLED). That may be a factor here as well.
I'm not trying to discredit the Amaze at all - I own it, I love it, and I plan on keeping it. The screen bleed is probably made worse/more noticeable by the screen tech choice, which isn't as good at reproducing blacks. This isn't a huge issue for me, but I just wanted to document the differences here. I'm just taking the best pictures I can to represent it - it really is noticeable in person too, if you care about such things.
Can you take pictures in normal daylight on it's auto light settings to show how it looks in real life..
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Here's the two side-by-side. One thing I noticed: the Nexus is absolutely fantastic at preserving the blacks. I'm sure this is due to a difference in backlight/screen tech, but it's really impressive - black is just black on the Nexus. The Amaze is much lighter grey when it's supposed to be "black". Here's the two side-by-side with the backlights at their lowest and highest settings
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Wow, indeed. I didn't think the blacks would be so different on the two phones (which is why I thought it came from your pictures - evidently I was wrong).
Those pictures are awesome and clearly show how the bottom lights affect the screen, thanks!
Not enough to make me reconsider (though maybe I'll change my mind when I finally have it in hands).
My friend had a very similar light bleeding in his EVO...one day he broke the screen and when replaced with a new one, the problem was gone. so it was a manufacturing issue on the first screen.
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Can you take pictures in normal daylight on it's auto light settings to show how it looks in real life..
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Hokay. I've added some outdoor pictures, and a set of indoor pictures in my dark apartment now that it's day. Updated link. It definitely is much less noticeable outside (although I spend a considerable amount of time inside that I count as "real life" as well ), and the Nexus screen is still blacker, although not as much. Pics:
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Wow, indeed. I didn't think the blacks would be so different on the two phones (which is why I thought it came from your pictures - evidently I was wrong).
Those pictures are awesome and clearly show how the bottom lights affect the screen, thanks!
Not enough to make me reconsider (though maybe I'll change my mind when I finally have it in hands).
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Yeah, the side-by-side Nexus pic I found really demonstrates that. It's not nearly as disparate outdoors, but indoors it's pretty noticeable. And it is just the screen tech - screen techs have their pros and cons, black reproduction is only one aspect of screen quality.
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Exactly. Doesn't bother me really. At least its not an issue that hinders the actual performance of the device like the epic 4g touch and its loss of signal issues that everyone is having.
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Not a performance issue but could be an easy software fix just have the keys dim with the screen. Sent htc an email so other versions might be better.. but I'm sure once we get root there might be a fix for it
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Not a performance issue but could be an easy software fix just have the keys dim with the screen. Sent htc an email so other versions might be better.. but I'm sure once we get root there might be a fix for it
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Do the lights dim? Most LEDs are only capable of being on or off..
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Do the lights dim? Most LEDs are only capable of being on or off..
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All the LEDs are capable of being dimmed, you just have to give them less power.
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All the LEDs are capable of being dimmed, you just have to give them less power.
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Not terribly on-topic, but LEDs are generally actually dimmed via pulse-width modulation - basically, if you want 50% brightness, you turn them on for 50% of the time, off 50% of the time, at >60Hz. Among other things, LED color depends on current - so supplying less current would not only make them dimmer, but change the color.
My main complaint with the screen is that last 2 out of 4 TFP's I had had washed out colours. Yes, there is a thread in regards to colours, but I want to take slightly different approach.
On Sensation, if you run command "dmesg" without brackets it brought load of info, including PANEL_ID_PYD.... Which gave you type of the screen. Since I had 50/50 good/bad screens, I wonder if we have different screens being shipped with TFP. Unfortunately, that command doesn't bring up anything like that, so question is, how to check screen manufacturer.
Now, I bet 100% that some of you have it and don't even know about it. My family thinks I'm mad, but being an amateur photographer made me see colours a bit more than your average person. So, even if you don't think your colours washed out, please check it and let me know your findings.
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Check it with your phone/pc/laptop and place them side by side.
Anything?
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from the reports on this forum there definitely seems to be a lot of variation in the calibration of the tf201 screens that have been shipping. people who care about color and have gone through multiple units have observed that one is warm, another cool, another washed out... putting color tests up side-by-side against my HP ZR30w (S-IPS) and samsung GSII (super AMOLED plus), my tf201 is definitely a bit too warm and it doesn't have the best gamut compared to high end displays. but that's not really fair because both of these screens are more expensive and higher quality than what the tf201 is spec'd out to be. imo the tf201 screen is still very nice compared to other tablets out there so i'm fine with it.
Thanks for the input. I don't mind it to be on a warm side, but I like my red to be RED, not pale red. Same goes for blue. These seem to be most affected colours.
Anyone else?
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The colors on my screen aren't even consistent lol
If I manually set my brightness, sometimes I'll unlock the screen to find deep, vibrant colors, and other times I'll unlock it to greens that I can barely see and reds that are nearly a shade of dark pink...
I personally believe that aside from actual individual defects of these screens, that ICS is at least partially to blame.
Anyone still on Honeycomb who can check this out? I swear I can't find a pattern to what causes them to look good or washed out, but I never know which I'll get. Reboot generally comes up to good colors (haven't noticed otherwise anyway)
I can tell you. Watch MAPS icon carefully, switch to battery mode, then back to normal or performance and watch the magic happen. Then lock and unlock screen to find normal-ish colours again.
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I can tell you. Watch MAPS icon carefully, switch to battery mode, then back to normal or performance and watch the magic happen. Then lock and unlock screen to find normal-ish colours again.
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But I never take it off the battery-saver. Ever. And my colors still get tweaked (although that explains lack of issue on boot up) sporadically. This is what I assumed it was at first, and may play a part, but isn't (in my case at least) the whole story...
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But I never take it off the battery-saver. Ever. And my colors still get tweaked (although that explains lack of issue on boot up) sporadically. This is what I assumed it was at first, and may play a part, but isn't (in my case at least) the whole story...
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battery saver mode definitely degrades display quality, wouldn't be surprised to find that it induces color shifts as well. run balanced mode for a while and see if you still have the problem.
Actually, in my case saver mode gives more accurate colours than two others. Did you do the test I mentioned in op ?
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Google "color test", select images, and open the very first picture.
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lol, I got one of those colorblind tests. Looks warmer on the TFP than on my phone.
Lol, I guess I'll have to upload that particular picture. Just find one with all the colours on it.
Btw, I hope Google search is not tailored to you, if it is you should see an eye specialist.
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Actually, in my case saver mode gives more accurate colours than two others. Did you do the test I mentioned in op ?
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Lol, I ran that "test" just by looking at home screens, then inside the market the first day of owning. All you really need to look at is your market, then look at the green, orange, blue, and red rectangles for the different sections. My tablet is ICE compared to my HTC Vision. I mean, almost looks like different pallets entirely.
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may want to update the title of the thread as well to reflect the discussion about color
Yes, this is the exact problem I had. My colors were good until the .33 update. Now it is washed out. I returned it for another one and it is just as bad. I guess I got unlucky twice. I wonder if theres a firmware/software update for this issue. My HTC thunderbolt looks a lot better
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Yes, this is the exact problem I had. My colors were good until the .33 update. Now it is washed out. I returned it for another one and it is just as bad. I guess I got unlucky twice. I wonder if theres a firmware/software update for this issue. My HTC thunderbolt looks a lot better
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This is why I think it is an issue of software more than anything. I do know that screens by default will be cooler or warmer than another; my identical LG LED monitors are just the slightest bit different. But the issue with washing out is something I did not notice in the few hours I was able to use my Prime and root it before it updated.
Yes, some will be slightly "defective," but I'm waiting for this next update and some homebrew'in ROM love after the unlocker. Then we'll truly see what's going on.
It's not as noticeable as it really is, dig?
I think it's clearest on magenta there, this is on Performance and SuperIPS.
The reason I'm doing it that way is that the picture is aweful without the SuperIPS on, when side-by-side to my LED screens.
Power saving + SuperIPS. More noticeable, but still doesn't look as bad as it does on the naked eye
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Any suggestions as how to name it?
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It's not as noticeable as it really is, dig?
I think it's clearest on magenta there, this is on Performance and SuperIPS.
The reason I'm doing it that way is that the picture is aweful without the SuperIPS on, when side-by-side to my LED screens.
Power saving + SuperIPS. More noticeable, but still doesn't look as bad as it does on the naked eye
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Your one is good, very good. I'll post mine in the evening.
Now to determine wherever it is sw problem, we need to see if all of primes are the same, and if they are not, do panels differ or not. If panels are different, then possibly it is software. If panels are identical, then we have same sw, same panel, different colours = bad screen.
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You cant just compare the colors on two different devices and say its the primes screen. There isnt a single display/graphics card on the market that displays colors correctly uncalibrated, regardless of how much you paid for it. With most displays the colors will be affected by the luminance levels. Most people adjust their displays for higher contrast and more saturation than what is actually true which can make other devices look pale or washed out. Im a professional photographer and know all to well that you cant use and uncalibrated monitor/grahics card combination for color adjustment in the photos. Ive seen many people over the years blame their cameras or printers for bad colors in photos when in reality it was the fact that an uncalibrated monitor was used in post processing. I use Xrite colormunki calibration tools on my PC and printer to make sure that what you see is what you get and its all true colors. This solution uses an optical measuring device and sends color offest values to the grahics card and print drivers. Any color variations are defnitely a matter of drivers to the display and unfortunately there are no adjustments available on android tablets although Spyder did release an app for Ipads.
I understand where you are coming from. It's not realistic to expect everyone to have calibrated screen. And yes, colours will vary between computer screens.
I had 4 primes, so I do have something to compare it to. I didn't notice anything like that with the first two, but it was obvious with last two.
Also, I compared it to all devices I have, and every device outperformed prime in regards to colour reproduction, especially red and blue.
Could you check yours with colormunki or against your calibrated screen please?
I really hope it's down to software, but I can't afford to gamble £500 on it.
I had some prints done professionally and compared them to my screen, so my screen is fairly close to real colours.
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Hi all,
I am not trying to flame here. I know people have different views and opinions of screen "quality". I'm just going to express my sincere opinions...thank you for any input...
I was just at a Verizon and AT&T Store. My main concern is brightness, though, secondarily, the jaggedness of PenTile.
I looked at the S II Sky Rocket and Note. And the Nexus at Verizon. All these AMOLED displays were incredibly dim, at least to my eye. Of course they had ghosting/burn in, too but I presume (I hope!) that's just because the display models are left on. But compared to even my Droid 2 the AMOLED displays were literally HALF the brightness (approximately, to my eye), of my Droid 2. The One X and Rezound of course blow it out of the water. I was thoroughly unimpressed with the "brilliant" color of OLED too. No point if it's as dim as an LCD on lowest brightness. Plus there were was the terrible tint on them all. Even straight on, but especially from even a tiny angle. And I saw the Pentile blurriness with the "color" around edges. And my vision is bad. Although I guess it wasn't that bad from at least two feet away, like normal distance for most tasks, but it was bad close which I sometimes do when using my phone.
Is the Galaxy S III screen as dim as the S II or Note or Nexus?
I am just wondering if this is a universal thing, where OLED is just dim, due to inherent qualities of OLED? I searched a bit and apparently the "nits" are much lower according to this xda thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1679964.html. Oddly enough I found reviews and users saying they found it too bright which surprised me. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised and have S III be brighter than previous SAMOLED handsets!
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Hi all,
I am not trying to flame here. I know people have different views and opinions of screen "quality". I'm just going to express my sincere opinions...thank you for any input...
I was just at a Verizon and AT&T Store. My main concern is brightness, though, secondarily, the jaggedness of PenTile.
I looked at the S II Sky Rocket and Note. And the Nexus at Verizon. All these AMOLED displays were incredibly dim, at least to my eye. Of course they had ghosting/burn in, too but I presume (I hope!) that's just because the display models are left on. But compared to even my Droid 2 the AMOLED displays were literally HALF the brightness (approximately, to my eye), of my Droid 2. The One X and Rezound of course blow it out of the water. I was thoroughly unimpressed with the "brilliant" color of OLED too. No point if it's as dim as an LCD on lowest brightness. Plus there were was the terrible tint on them all. Even straight on, but especially from even a tiny angle. And I saw the Pentile blurriness with the "color" around edges. And my vision is bad. Although I guess it wasn't that bad from at least two feet away, like normal distance for most tasks, but it was bad close which I sometimes do when using my phone.
Is the Galaxy S III screen as dim as the S II or Note or Nexus?
I am just wondering if this is a universal thing, where OLED is just dim, due to inherent qualities of OLED? I searched a bit and apparently the "nits" are much lower according to this xda thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1679964.html. Oddly enough I found reviews and users saying they found it too bright which surprised me. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised and have S III be brighter than previous SAMOLED handsets!
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I own a GS2(I777), a GNexus, and and now a GS3. I'm running AOKP on the GS2 and GNexus. I can't comment on the Note as I've never used one. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Were you looking at them through a welder's mask?
Compared to a Droid 2? I was showing my S3 to my buddy who has a RAZR MAXX today. My screen is better and it ain't even close. He agreed completely.
And BTW, if you are asking a question, don't you think the Q & A section would be a better place to ask it?
I had an SGS2 and the brightness was more than bright enough for being in direct sunlight. Sure, it could have been a LITTLE brighter but I never had problems reading anything on the screen. It was also very crisp due to the true RGB stripe.
The Note has a PenTile pixel arrangement but due to the high resolution it's a non-issue. The same is true with the SGS3. Of course OLED displays aren't going to match LCD in sharpness or brightness, but the true blacks and vibrant colors look beautiful to me.
Wait for it to be in the store and then go take a look. But please don't say the displays on the SGS2 or the Note suck, because they really don't. Compare them side-by-side with a One X and you'll see a difference, but you will never be using it side-by-side in real world use. If you like super bright screens with white so white it'll burn your retinas, go for an LCD screen. If you like true blacks and punchy colors (that you can adjust the punchiness of) then go with an AMOLED. But saying AMOLED screens suck is just stupid.
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I have the S1,S2 and S2 HD LTE and the screens are bright as a greasy bald head under direct sunlight. I have my brightness settings to about 15%-20%. My friends with iPhone 4s' even say its too bright. I put my S2 HD LTE next to my friends GS3 and my screen is actually better. I'll post some pics up later.
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The Note has a PenTile pixel arrangement but due to the high resolution it's a non-issue. The same is true with the SGS3. Of course OLED displays aren't going to match LCD in sharpness or brightness, but the true blacks and vibrant colors look beautiful to me.
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The Note having a high resolution did not make it a non-issue.
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Amazing - Noticeable jagged edges but not horrible - AMAZING
I'm hoping I don't notice the jaggys as much when my S3 arrives due to the smaller screen size yet still high resolution. Just holding a Galaxy Note on it's own though I can definitely tell a difference, there doesn't have to be a side to side comparison. It was just "Well this looks pretty good, but it is not perfectly sharp like my iphone or htc one X look" It just kind've has an overall lower resolution look to it due to the pentile arrangement, but I didn't find it a deal breaker.
I didn't find the brightness an issue though, it IS too bright at 100% brightness. I liked my Note at around 50-70% brightness.
My friend has a Note and I haven't noticed jaggies using it, and I have 20/15 vision. It's a pretty beautiful screen in my opinion.
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I have the S1,S2 and S2 HD LTE and the screens are bright as a greasy bald head under direct sunlight. I have my brightness settings to about 15%-20%. My friends with iPhone 4s' even say its too bright. I put my S2 HD LTE next to my friends GS3 and my screen is actually better. I'll post some pics up later.
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I probably should have put this in Q & A like mentioned, my bad.
But I'm puzzled by responses like above. I guess my eyes are very sensitive. I will agree different people have different perceptions. But I found the S II very dim even in a dimly lit store. I have a feeling I'd not be able to see it at max. brightness outside. And I love the brightness on iPhone and Droid LCD screens. It's wonderful. Even those are a bit dim outside but they are okay. Inside they are wonderful.
Hmm I'm worried if your S II is better than an S III that does not bode well. I hope perhaps the store model was messed up somehow. I know those get abused. Thank you also for your time everyone. I should have not said suck in the title but I wanted to emphasize I found the Nexus, S II and Note VERY dim, to my eyes at least. I figured the AT&T S III forum would be good since they're already shipping...Thanks again all.
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But I found the S II very dim even in a dimly lit store. I have a feeling I'd not be able to see it at max. brightness outside. And I love the brightness on iPhone and Droid LCD screens. It's wonderful. Even those are a bit dim outside but they are okay. Inside they are wonderful.
Hmm I'm worried if your S II is better than an S III that does not bode well. I hope perhaps the store model was messed up somehow. I know those get abused. Thank you also for your time everyone. I should have not said suck in the title but I wanted to emphasize I found the Nexus, S II and Note VERY dim, to my eyes at least. I figured the AT&T S III forum would be good since they're already shipping...Thanks again all.
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Something is/was wrong with all of those phones, then, because they are plenty bright, even in direct sunlight. That, or you were wearing sunglasses the entire time. The iPhone is extremely bright, and I have actually hurt my eyes looking at it on full brightness if the room is not bright. Maybe you have less sensitive eyes than you thought. Not insulting you, just saying that my SGS2 was plenty bright and the iPhone 4 I'm using now is even brighter. I don't know how bright it really needs to be.
I don't know what dimness you see.. But you could always turn up the brightness. The gs3 display is beautiful. Way better than the s2. It looks brighter and just has better color. I love it. The viewing angles are amazing.
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My S3 is set at about 45% and is a great level. If you set it at 100% it is really bright and I cannot see how anyone would complain that 100% is not bright enough.
The screen is also very sharp and looks fantastic.
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The Note having a high resolution did not make it a non-issue.
I went from:
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Screen Clarity went:
Amazing - Noticeable jagged edges but not horrible - AMAZING
I'm hoping I don't notice the jaggys as much when my S3 arrives due to the smaller screen size yet still high resolution. Just holding a Galaxy Note on it's own though I can definitely tell a difference, there doesn't have to be a side to side comparison. It was just "Well this looks pretty good, but it is not perfectly sharp like my iphone or htc one X look" It just kind've has an overall lower resolution look to it due to the pentile arrangement, but I didn't find it a deal breaker.
I didn't find the brightness an issue though, it IS too bright at 100% brightness. I liked my Note at around 50-70% brightness.
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If you find the note to have visible pentile pixelation then it will be worse on the gs3 due to heavy sharpening applied. I know because I compared the 2 side by side.
btw the HTC one x display is pretty poor even by gs3 standard. The gamma is washed out and yellows and oranges are overblown to the point that skintones looks horrible. Text while sharper than on amoled displays suffer from poor contrast making it even harder to read.
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btw the HTC one x display is pretty poor even by gs3 standard. The gamma is washed out and yellows and oranges are overblown to the point that skintones looks horrible. Text while sharper than on amoled displays suffer from poor contrast making it even harder to read.
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I don't think you're thinking of the right phone. Every review states the HTC One X is the best display on any phone they have ever seen... And most Galaxy S3 reviews make a comparison saying it's good but not near as good as the One X display.
For example here is the Techie-Buzz.com review
"The display on the one X is too good to be true and the color and temperature reproductions are the most accurate I have ever seen on a phone."
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I don't think you're thinking of the right phone. Every review states the HTC One X is the best display on any phone they have ever seen... And most GS3 reviews make a comparison saying it's not as good as the One X display.
For example here is the Techie-Buzz.com review
"The display on the one X is too good to be true and the color and temperature reproductions are the most accurate I have ever seen on a phone."
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Agreed. I do graphics sometimes. By nature of what I do, I deal with image processing at times.
All these OLED phones were dim to my eye. And it was in a moderately lit store so it's a charitable scenario. LCDs blew the AMOLEDS out of the water in birghtness, sharpness, and yes, color accuracy, in my eye at least.
I like my screens bright, though. I use my MacBook Pro at 100%, nice and bright. I use my Droid at 100% always also. All OLED displays I've seen are very dim. What blows me away is everyone saying they are TOO bright. I'm really surprised by that!!!!
I guess I shall see when my S III arrives... Honestly, if I even have tint or ink marks I'll swap it for some other 4G phone. I wish one phone could have it all but it seems there's always a tradeoff. Unfortunately, I value screen quality more than specs and dev support, even though I was reeeally looking forward to all the other awesomeness of the S III. But with a dim screen all of that is useless to me...if I can't see it! I'll post my impressions when it's in...
Also I know this is kind of a negative thread but I'm really impressed by the XDA community. I found my way here after pre-ordering my S III and seeking more info. Everyone here is so quick to reply, knowledgeable, willing to intensely and intelligently discuss everything about phones and tech. Cheers to the XDA community.
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Well I just used S III in store again. And compared to my Droid 2 it looks like crap. And my Droid 2 looks like crap compared to HTC One X.
I just used an Incredible 4G LTE. Well, it was nice and bright and sharp. It's LCD. It's small and low-res though. I'm very sad about this but I think I'll have to pick the Incredible 4G.
S III has everything else about it perfect. But the screen is so dim and crappy, to my eyes. Also HTC Inc 4G boot loader is unlocked. Although with the firestorm brewing here maybe VZW will eventually unlock your boot loaders. My S III still isn't in yet but I think I'm 90% of the way to deciding to get the Inc 4G. Really wish S III had LCD. :/
Also I have to note: the colors on AMOLED are truly bizarre and over-saturated. Look at Google Maps on an LCD phone compared to an AMOLED phone. On the SIII the orange highways are the color of a traffic cone and the red "A" dot over my city is the color red of a red laser pointer. Nuts. Way over-saturated. It's just annoying. AMOLED, speaking as a graphics pro, to me it just does not look like it's ready for use yet. I think Samsung jumped the gun. It's got almost no advantages and a ton of drawbacks. SLCD simply destroys it in every way. It's making me rather sad I'm getting a puny little Droid Incredible 4 because the SAMOLED screen is so crappy.
The notes display doesn't suck at all....wth are u talking about??? Check ur eyes
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The notes display doesn't suck at all....wth are u talking about??? Check ur eyes
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Have you looked at it then looked at an LCD?
Sorry it is WAY DIMMER. this is a FACT. Open up Google News in an LCD and AMOLED phone. Compare. What do you think? Specifically, how white does white look on AMOLED?
And: ink marks, tint, black crush, over saturation, burn in, etc. on AMOLED.
I'm trying to be objective here. I really just wish Samsung would use LCD. Photos of comparisons do not accurately portray the differences between these two displays at least based on my experiences...you have to see them in person. Although even without seeing an LCD once, as soon as I fired up S III for the first time I was disappointed. I was like oh crap, that's seriously full brightness? Uh oh.
Mine looks great ..definitely not dim...colors look amazing..
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Mine looks great ..definitely not dim...colors look amazing..
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I guess my eyes are just super sensitive.. I never would have thought that. I wear pretty serious glasses even. Ah well. Although I have good night vision. It's not like I need things bright to see them. I just feel like S III is annoying because it's dim. Constantly annoying. Can't deal with that for 2 years, no way.
Perhaps sometime next year there will be a phone with all the awesomeness of SIII but with IPS LCD display or a nice AMOLED..
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Mine looks great ..definitely not dim...colors look amazing..
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Same here. My SGS3 is fantastic, I actually prefer it over the HTC One X that I had for nearly a month.
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And i was hoping for something without light bleed, aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
Just read Engadgets full review of the nexus 10, generally sounds good, but light bleed is my one bug bare, and yes its there, and they confirmed it on a second device aswell!
Sooo close!
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And i was hoping for something without light bleed, aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
Just read Engadgets full review of the nexus 10, generally sounds good, but light bleed is my one bug bare, and yes its there, and they confirmed it on a second device aswell!
Sooo close!
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Calm down slick. Even two devices doesn't mean that every product off the line will have it. Unless they had checked 20 devices and every one had the same problem, I'm not writing of the device. There are defects. Some people have Nexus 7's with no light bleed, others have it with some light bleed.
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Calm down slick. Even two devices doesn't mean that every product off the line will have it. Unless they had checked 20 devices and every one had the same problem, I'm not writing of the device. There are defects. Some people have Nexus 7's with no light bleed, others have it with some light bleed.
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I'm hoping they were slightly lower quality review devices! PLEASEEEEEEEEEE,
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I'm hoping they were slightly lower quality review devices! PLEASEEEEEEEEEE,
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Of the 5 reviews so far only Engadget mentioned leakage, everyone else is highly satisfied with the screen. Cnet mentioned these are presale models being tested, so let's just wait for the final version.
With the new Nexus 10 coming out, I strongly believe Apple is going downhill. I do not want to be cynical but had Steve been still alive, this would have never happened. When I saw the Ipad Mini, I thought "This is going to be my first Apple product, though expensive". Then Google announced Nexus 10. Everything changed dramatically. I want Google, and nothing but the Google, so help me God(if any)!!!
Light bleed is kind of a big deal to me too. I don't care about anything being really much over 1920x1080 (although it has to be at least 300PPI for me with Pentile displays, I can still see it), but light bleed might be the deal breaker here when I see this thing. It is not like I absolutely need a tablet with a good desktop, laptop, and phone. I'd be getting it for media and browsing around the house and workplace where screen quality will be the #1 focus.
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Light bleed is kind of a big deal to me too. I don't care about anything being really much over 1920x1080 (although it has to be at least 300PPI for me with Pentile displays, I can still see it), but light bleed might be the deal breaker here when I see this thing. It is not like I absolutely need a tablet with a good desktop, laptop, and phone. I'd be getting it for media and browsing around the house and workplace where screen quality will be the #1 focus.
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+1 Can't stand light bleed.
It seems that the contrast is nothing special either, but that's because it's not as bright as other tablets. The black level looks decent according to the tests.
D: ohh lol i hate light bleeds
Does warranty cover light bleeding?
Any LCD with a backlight will suffer from light bleed to some extent even the iPad3 retina (just Google for the pictures). Obviously, something to check for and exchange if it's significant. The pictures on The Verge don't show any signs of it and the pixel level comparison shows the Nexus 10 display to be superior in black level, colors and sharpness against retina.
What is the brightness of the screen, anyway?
There is a firestorm going on over at Engadget over this review. The same reviewer wrote the iPad mini review and fawned over it but nitpicks the Nexus 10. Engadget has been deleting posts that point out the flaws in the review (and back it up with evidence).
I wouldn't put too much stock in this review, but it's always a good idea to be skeptical.
What is exactly "light bleed"?
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When the spread of the backlight is uneven, so parts of the screen are brighter than others.
I always thought light bleed was the presence of light when there shouldn't be any. Like when you're watching a movie in portrait view, and the black bars on top and bottom show light. That's why I haven't wasted much time with IPS in the last couple years ever since discovering Samsung's AMOLEDs. Uneven backlighting is a different and even worse artifact, and again it only affects non-AMOLED screens.
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I always thought light bleed was the presence of light when there shouldn't be any. Like when you're watching a movie in portrait view, and the black bars on top and bottom show light. That's why I haven't wasted much time with IPS in the last couple years ever since discovering Samsung's AMOLEDs. Uneven backlighting is a different and even worse artifact, and again it only affects non-AMOLED screens.
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Seems like they both have pros and cons. Amoled displays have high risk of tint, I experienced this in my s2 for about a year until I finally got a replacement. This one portrays whites much better, or at least now it does. Aside from that you have all benefits, thin capacitive touch layer, vibrant colors (I don't give a **** if they're over saturated, they look great and that's what matters), no risk of light bleed, and huge potential battery savings. In my personal opinion I would take an amoled panel any day. I mean, displays like the super lcd2 in the one x are brilliant, but come on,, have you seen the note 2 on dynamic settings ?
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Wished Samsung had gone with SAMOLED. Without a backlight there's no backlight bleed, ghosting, uniformity, etc. issues.
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Wished Samsung had gone with SAMOLED. Without a backlight there's no backlight bleed, ghosting, uniformity, etc. issues.
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The technology is not there yet, nor is the economy. They simply can't produce a 2560x1680 OLED panel, 10" or otherwise, at a price anyone would be willing to pay.
Look at the PenTile "tricks" they have to pull on Galaxy phones as an indicator of how they're struggling with the tech, look at the very high cost of the Tab 7.7 to see how expensive it gets when you increase size, and to further reinforce that look at the ludicrous price of their big screen SAMOLED televisions compared to LCD and plasma.
Give it a few more years, it'll be feasible, and Samsung is surely working very hard on the problem, since they have a lot invested in pretty much owning the OLED market.
You're right. This is going to be the best 10" screen for the next 6-12 months. Yes it won't look as good as the screen on my S3 but I will be more than happy with it.
8 days and counting!
Hopefully a PCWorld/Currys near me will have it ready to take away!
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Just wanted to let people know that trickster mod (in play store) has color calibration. Root required.
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Just wanted to let people know that trickster mod (in play store) has color calibration. Root required.
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yup i saw that. any good profiles? i'm keeping mine stock for now bc i'm bad at calibrating color lol it seems pretty good stock..
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yup i saw that. any good profiles? i'm keeping mine stock for now bc i'm bad at calibrating color lol it seems pretty good stock..
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Lol, yeah I left it alone. I just thought I would share for the guys who like tinker and weren't aware of it
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Is there any overhead with this type of thing that's not kernel based?
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LG is oversaturating on this display(don't ask me or question my decision, I've seen the gamut) and I believe it's best to leave it at stock except you want the washed out nexus 4 default colors.
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LG is oversaturating on this display(don't ask me or question my decision, I've seen the gamut) and I believe it's best to leave it at stock except you want the washed out nexus 4 default colors.
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You should see Samsung phones, talk about oversaturation!
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You should see Samsung phones, talk about oversaturation!
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While I don't disagree, for some reason the S4's screen is still easier on my eyes than the G2's. (and I'm not coming directly from an S4) Maybe the G2's auto-brightness is just leaning towards being too dim, or maybe over-saturating a LCD screen looks worse than an over-saturated AMOLED screen, or maybe it's simply the text that the G2 uses... I don't know what it is, but I'm finding the G2's screen doesn't feel as nice to my eyes as the S4's. I know, I'm probably crazy...
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While I don't disagree, for some reason the S4's screen is still easier on my eyes than the G2's. (and I'm not coming directly from an S4) Maybe the G2's auto-brightness is just leaning towards being too dim, or maybe over-saturating a LCD screen looks worse than an over-saturated AMOLED screen, or maybe it's simply the text that the G2 uses... I don't know what it is, but I'm finding the G2's screen doesn't feel as nice to my eyes as the S4's. I know, I'm probably crazy...
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Yeah, you're crazy.
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You should see Samsung phones, talk about oversaturation!
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I'm not going to argue here but when I do lay out information I know what I mean.I did a test and this reviewer did it too.They r the same!LG is oversaturating.Watch this before saying what not.Samsung doesn't over saturate.Their displays are produced like that by default and have a wide gamut.But they seem to be correcting that with the s4.
I can tell you what it is.. it's the glass and LCD combo they use. it's weird on the eyes. it's very reflective and can almost get a weird rainbow effect, and it has bad angle viewing.
this screen is almost identical to my rezound.. amazing screen but it had that weird glossy effect to it. the dna however was a diff type of screen apparently bc it didn't resemble that at all... and now the g2 does again.
basically it's hard to explain but htc uses a screen very similar to this in the rezound which is reflective and glossy whereas in the dna and one they switched to some different type. maybe it's the glass? idk. but the g2 does have a diff type of LCD screen to it.
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also idk how you can say the s4 isn't over saturated. I have to set it down to the standard or photo screen setting bc their stock is the dynamic one that's super saturated.
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LG is oversaturating on this display(don't ask me or question my decision, I've seen the gamut) and I believe it's best to leave it at stock except you want the washed out nexus 4 default colors.
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If you don't want people to ask you why you've come to this conclusion or to even have the audacity to question your decision, then perhaps you're better off not posting something at all. Talk about a terrible post, essentially you say "Do what I tell you, and don't ask why".
You can see here that while the G2 display covers sRGB space nicely, LG have pushed the saturation on R, G, and B values. For instance, look at the two dots at the bottom in Blue. The next to last dot should be in the next to last square for accuracy. Instead, as R, G, and B values approach maximum saturation, the color approaches full saturation too quickly. Hard to explain but stare at the chart for awhile and you will understand :fingers-crossed:
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You can see here that while the G2 display covers sRGB space nicely, LG have pushed the saturation on R, G, and B values. For instance, look at the two dots at the bottom in Blue. The next to last dot should be in the next to last square for accuracy. Instead, as R, G, and B values approach maximum saturation, the color approaches full saturation too quickly. Hard to explain but stare at the chart for awhile and you will understand :fingers-crossed:
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Actually not hard to understand if you understand photography,
But from the chart you can see that the colors are also shifted in ways that will make the screen look strange or skin tones maybe too green or red.
So not only does it saturate too quickly but the colors are shifted.
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If you don't want people to ask you why you've come to this conclusion or to even have the audacity to question your decision, then perhaps you're better off not posting something at all. Talk about a terrible post, essentially you say "Do what I tell you, and don't ask why".
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I don't know why some keep arguing.I own a G2 and we r on the same side.I'm stating the facts and they r as clear as the fact that LG made this phone(or is it made by Apple?).That's y I say don't question the proofs of over saturation I laid before.The picture above is crystal clear!
Um, yeah. The screen looks just fine to me. I really don't care what charts say, I'm sitting here with my g2 next an s4 and the g2 looks less "cartoony" so I'm fine with it. I just thought I would mention that color calibration was available, not to start a lecture on color saturation.
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perfectly fine for me too!
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I don't know why some keep arguing.I own a G2 and we r on the same side.I'm stating the facts and they r as clear as the fact that LG made this phone(or is it made by Apple?).That's y I say don't question the proofs of over saturation I laid before.The picture above is crystal clear!
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I understand and I'm not arguing with you, I just think the delivery could have been a bit better. You could have at least left it open to foster a discussion, and not been so dismissive to people who might have questions about your conclusion. That's all I was getting at.
Maybe I am a saturation sucker but I did like the colors on my S4, seemed to pop on there.. not so much on the G2, its lighter
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Maybe I am a saturation sucker but I did like the colors on my S4, seemed to pop on there.. not so much on the G2, its lighter
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Took me a while to get used to the LG screens when I first got my Nexus 4. I actually prefer them now to the S4 and the One. One thing I really like is that there is pretty much no space between the glass and the screen. I think it will grow on you. The screen looks brilliant with video and colorful backgrounds, etc.