Hi people,
This thing is really bothering me a lot! I know what overclocking your cpu is but I really don't understand what's the exact advantage and disadvantage of it?
I mean when should we overclock our devices? While charging? While doing multitasking? Or while playing games?
Please.. I need some guidance on it!
Thanks in advance!
Advantage....
iamdchosen1 said:
Hi people,
This thing is really bothering me a lot! I know what overclocking your cpu is but I really don't understand what's the exact advantage and disadvantage of it?
I mean when should we overclock our devices? While charging? While doing multitasking? Or while playing games?
Please.. I need some guidance on it!
Thanks in advance!
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overclocking actually increases your processor speed so basically you overclock when u r playing HD games or while multitasking...
Disadvantage ...
you may damage your hardware if u constantly overclock.... so be very careful while overclocking....
iamdchosen1 said:
I know what overclocking your cpu is
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Don't get me rude, but, no you don't know what OC is, since you need to ask this question.
iamdchosen1 said:
I really don't understand what's the exact advantage and disadvantage of it?
I mean when should we overclock our devices? While charging? While doing multitasking? Or while playing games?
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While charging?? You think it will charge up faster?
Anw, as much as it's good, it's bad.
It's "same" in PC's and phones, why I say "same"? PC have one advantage, we call it cooler and vent's.
To get better info on OC: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking+pros+and+cons
Overclocking is basically making your phone's processor faster than it should be.
Advantages: Faster phone.
Disadvantages: Short life span of phone
Normally, if I overclock, I only increase it to a little more than My processor's stock speed and set the governor to ondemand. Ondemand means only if your phone requires more power it will use more. Be careful though, and DON'T go crazy with the overclocking
You only need to know one thing for overclocking
Never do it if you don't lag like E#@.
I am on stock Rom, kernel.. Rooted.. Locked BL. I underclock my phone frequently. Sometimes I overclock to 1ghz. Wil it damage hardware and cause less lifespan
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viseshprasad said:
I am on stock Rom, kernel.. Rooted.. Locked BL. I underclock my phone frequently. Sometimes I overclock to 1ghz. Wil it damage hardware and cause less lifespan
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Read definition of overclocking
1GHz is not overclock, since its made to work on 1GHz by default.
Besides it can't damage it if (again) its made to work on 1GHz.
Does overclocking consumes more battery ?
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a1b2c99 said:
Does overclocking consumes more battery ?
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yes :crying: it does consume more battery as cpu always remains at higher frequencies so all the androidians keeps there devices a bit underclocked so to have a good battery life!!
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http://www.google.co.uk/m/url?ei=IA...YQFjAG&usg=AFQjCNFf_IXpZvXkmVVQlW64NFPETYHABA
Here they have managed to overclock the galaxy s to a wooping 1.6ghz, what could we acheive if we had cracked the kernal.?
Xenon.
P.s unaware if we are allowed to link to other sites, sorry in advance if so.!
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I don't think anyone has started to work on OC, but we would need to see what kernel sources we have first... Then we figure out how to OC
also it gets hot with long wifi downloads or 3g ie gps using aura so overclock may not be a good idea.
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also it gets hot with long wifi downloads or 3g ie gps using aura so overclock may not be a good idea.
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Overclocking doesn't mean that the CPU will get hotter as long as you aren't changing the voltage. If the CPU handle 1.4 Ghz on the standard voltage, it won't get warmer and also won't consume more battery.
Dual 1.4ghz wud b pretty sweet lol wat if we increased it to 1.6ghz n just increased the voltage a lil bit or is that a bad idea n p.s is it me or since Root my fone only reaches 3.5k on the quadrent ive deleted alot of samsung apps n my memory is usualy at around 250mb iv seen people score ova 4k in their s2,
Xenon,
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XenonAndroid said:
Dual 1.4ghz wud b pretty sweet lol wat if we increased it to 1.6ghz n just increased the voltage a lil bit or is that a bad idea n p.s is it me or since Root my fone only reaches 3.5k on the quadrent ive deleted alot of samsung apps n my memory is usualy at around 250mb iv seen people score ova 4k in their s2,
Xenon,
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Might be a good idea, might not work because the CPU might already be near it's maximum. It'll definitely be worth it if you want to push out amazing benchmark scores, though! Just might not be stable enough to use for a daily phone if overclocked heavily.
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Overclocking doesn't mean that the CPU will get hotter as long as you aren't changing the voltage. If the CPU handle 1.4 Ghz on the standard voltage, it won't get warmer and also won't consume more battery.
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This is completely wrong. It is very well known that incresing the frequency increases the power consumption (also with same voltage). Just google if you don't believe me.
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Overclocking doesn't mean that the CPU will get hotter as long as you aren't changing the voltage. If the CPU handle 1.4 Ghz on the standard voltage, it won't get warmer and also won't consume more battery.
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What a lot of bull**** dude.
Of course more speed on a processor will consume more power even if dont change the voltage.
Learn some science basics before make stupid statements
Right now the jump between 1ghz to 1.1ghz shows no real world benefit. I have a couple of questions:
1. Does overclocking to 1.1ghz effect the battery enought to see a difference?
2. Does undervolting save battery enough to see a difference?
3. If i have a custom kernal but still running at 1ghz, will the battery be the same/worse/better then runnning 1ghz on stock kernel
4. Does undervolting have any negative effects on performance
Thanks in Advance!! XDA RULES!!
The best type of experience, is 1st hand.
Why not try it out and make this thread a log of your results?
1username4thisforum said:
The best type of experience, is 1st hand.
Why not try it out and make this thread a log of your results?
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Not trying to be rude, but does not answer my question. Why go through the procedure when someone who has already done it or has experience with it is kind enough to post answers.
primeboss said:
Right now the jump between 1ghz to 1.1ghz shows no real world benefit. I have a couple of questions:
1. Does overclocking to 1.1ghz effect the battery enought to see a difference?
2. Does undervolting save battery enough to see a difference?
3. If i have a custom kernal but still running at 1ghz, will the battery be the same/worse/better then runnning 1ghz on stock kernel
4. Does undervolting have any negative effects on performance
Thanks in Advance!! XDA RULES!!
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1 Yes it does, but the phone only uses that frequency when pushed to limits, so not much.
2 Yes, i believe it does.
3 I found faux kernel to drink my battery like water even oj stock clock. Edgan's didnt have that problem.
4 it may cause random reboots if ur UV lvls are beyond the phone's capabilities.
Ps1: hes got a point, all impressions are too personal, they dont translate to universal experience.
Ps2: the greatest use of OC on the atrix right now is the webtop, that really pushes all possible processing power.
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Viamonte said:
1 Yes it does, but the phone only uses that frequency when pushed to limits, so not much.
2 Yes, i believe it does.
3 I found faux kernel to drink my battery like water even oj stock clock. Edgan's didnt have that problem.
4 it may cause random reboots if ur UV lvls are beyond the phone's capabilities.
Ps1: hes got a point, all impressions are too personal, they dont translate to universal experience.
Ps2: the greatest use of OC on the atrix right now is the webtop, that really pushes all possible processing power.
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Thank You!
For the convenience of writing,Overclock shall be referred to as OC.
So,the Ace has started recieving OC kernels,which is a good thing but OC is dangerous too.I decided to make a thread and warn all users who don't know much and overclock.So,with this thread,I intend to educate all newbies about OCing before users start bricking their phone.
I shall write about overclocking,what overclocking does and then discuss abotut the various advantages and disadvantages it comes with
WHAT IS OVERCLOCKING?
Overclocking is the process of operating a computer component at a higher clock rate.In our case,the processor.Most people overclock their phones for perfomance but this so-called perfomance comes at a price which every user who oc should know about.So,I am going to discuss it
Android phones are clocked at a safe level when we buy it.However,we exceed this 'safe level' when oc it.
ADVANTAGES OF OVERCLOCKING:
1.Perfomance-OCing gives perfomance and thats what most people go after when they oc.
2.Cost-saving-Some people who have extensive knowledge about OCing do it to save money.For eg-Some people claim that they can get clock speeds upto 1GHz
when they oc.SGS has a clock speed of 1GHz(but when they overclock,they get better speeds I just put this one in so that people can have better knowledge)
DISADVANTAGES OF OVERCLOCKING:
1.Excess heat production-OCing produces more heat,nothing to be added
2.Lifespan decreases-By overclocking to extreme levels,you are actually killing your phone.Because of the excess heat generated,some interior parts may get damages.
3.Damage to GPU-Because of the heat generated(i think)
4.Excess Battery consumption-Because of the intense heat generated and the unusual number of charge cycles,battery consumption becomes high.As you might already know,Ace's battery is really suckish.With OC,its going to be even worse.
5.Permanent effects-If you were having weird effects when you OCed for a long time,you are not going to feel much better when you right-clock again
6.Instability-Stability levels of various phones vary Some get OC speeds near 1GHz while others are having trouble getting over 900MHz
7.FCs,Reboots and other errors-You have a chance of getting constant reboots and FCs when you OC,it depends.Some have even complainde of their touchscreen having complains when they switch to OC kernel
FINAL WORDS:
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING,DON'T DO IT
OCing experiences/Suggestions:
Valakas:
Im used to OCing almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wasnt an exception but sadly i didnt notice any huge improvement in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.
OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
P4qui7o:
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !
Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion
Yukinok25:
I have been OC's my HTC HERO since I bought it (2009), it's an old ARMv6 525mhz, which I pushed to 710mhz/MAX.
I NEVER had any issue for my OC's, I obviously can say that it becames maybe slightly warmer than the stock clock but nothing near hot.
Thanks to this, my Hero is running all the lastest rom with no lag for this two years, and so the other people in the Hero forum (basically 90% of the people OC's).
I am agree with the opener that OC's could be dangerous and it might decrease the lifespan of your device, but I also think it depends on the hardware, and I am not agree when I just read is "not" useful, because it DOES give a huge boost to your device.
Besides you can undervolting your CPU when your smartphone is in Idle (my MIN is 19 mhz), so the heat won't be generated anymore, you will save battery life, and the paradox... you will extend the life cicle of your CPU.
Also keep in mind that developers are improving the OC's working on new governors and kernels all the time.
There are risks also when we flash a rom or a new radio version, but that doesn't mean they are not useful. We flash them because we want to enhance our devices
Pardon me,if there are any mistakes,technical or grammatical,if i have missed anything.
Thanx to Wikipedia,PujitJuneja and Google
P.S. I didn't copy-paste it from anywhere,wrote it all down.So,a click on the thanks button will be greatly appreciated
Cheers
I think this was a good piece to explain risks and rewards of OCing.
All d noobies should take a look at this.
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Empty Reply?
Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
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Whats that supposed to be,empty post?
pujitjuneja said:
Empty Reply?
Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
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Couldnt have done it without you
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !
Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion
Prawesome said:
Couldnt have done it without you
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Hehe, always happy to help (Well only for some people )
Thank for ur info
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Thank for ur info
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Anytime
Well done
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Great work!
And to add to this maybe..
The battery will get effed up pretty soon coz of the rapid discharging and the more than usual number of charge cycles and also the heat
Im used to OC almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wouldnt be the exception to that rule. But sadly i didnt notice any huge improve in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.
OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
Thanx for the suggestion guyz...Will add them
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
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Thanks for the useful info here ....
GT5830 said:
Thanks for the useful info here ....
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Anytime
PafcioPjay said:
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
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Its already written-heating effect
Can Keeping Galaxy I5500 at 768 Mhz maximum and 122 Mhz minimum cause problems in the future?
Using Cm7.1 2.3.7 gingerbread
Thanks in advance, Hope someone knows the answer..
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Can Keeping Galaxy I5500 at 768 Mhz maximum and 122 Mhz minimum cause problems in the future?
Using Cm7.1 2.3.7 gingerbread
Thanks in advance, Hope someone knows the answer..
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Yep, could do. Its straining the hardware. Wont affect you very soon though
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Meaning it will affect the phone in the future..? what should i do then..keep it at 600 always and 768 when i have to play or watch a video? and can you please tell me when changes will appear if i use 768 continuously?
And thanks for replying
I never even need it at 745. And I don't think the effects will kick in for a year or so. Its fine really, but just supposedly shortens your hardwares lifetime
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the phone feels much faster at 768 and some games which used to run with a lot of lag are silky smooth now..thats why i was reluctant to keep it at 600....
hii , i dont know what is the function of overclocking our phone . how if i want to extend battery lifetime by overclock the cpu .
do i need to raise it or lower it ??
daimhafizy23 said:
hii , i dont know what is the function of overclocking our phone . how if i want to extend battery lifetime by overclock the cpu .
do i need to raise it or lower it ??
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Everyone you NEED to think about your CPU Governors! It will affect performance, hardware strain and battery life! Choose the one that's right for you!
I'm using overclocking since I have flashed CM. My usual setting is 245-768. I have never had any problems.
Hey guys,
I have just installed OmegaRom by Team Cooper and what a Rom it is!!! Amazing is an understatement.
Okay so with there new Rom v2, it has an OC kernal built in and it does work...BUT I need to know how to OC the thing safely and squeezing as much performance as possible!
I have it at 825 and min 806 mhz, scaler is performance.
What settings would you pro's recommened?
Thanks!
Edit 1- I am using SetCPU to OC.
"overclock" and "safe" cannot be use in the same sentence, it just wrong.
theres no safe overclocking. moreover each and every device is unique even for the same model.
what is working with others doesnt guarantee it'll works with yours.
an0nym0us_ said:
"overclock" and "safe" cannot be use in the same sentence, it just wrong.
theres no safe overclocking. moreover each and every device is unique even for the same model.
what is working with others doesnt guarantee it'll works with yours.
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What I meant was a stable OC that may work with my phone... I OC computers too so I know the risk's involved. So what I was asking was what OC's worked with peoples phones so I could get a rough idea on how to govern my cpu and OC it without totally messing it up.
davalav said:
What I meant was a stable OC that may work with my phone... I OC computers too so I know the risk's involved. So what I was asking was what OC's worked with peoples phones so I could get a rough idea on how to govern my cpu and OC it without totally messing it up.
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i hope u are aware of the ill effects of OCing.....battery takes a real beating....well i have done it upto 886 mhz....many others have done it upto 1ghz mark...but i personally do not recommend...
CPU Tuner
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
sreesh87 said:
i hope u are aware of the ill effects of OCing.....battery takes a real beating....well i have done it upto 886 mhz....many others have done it upto 1ghz mark...but i personally do not recommend...
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I have OCed it to 902 mhz..
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Thanks for the comments guys... Gives me a rough estimate on its limits.
So far I have been running 844mhz performance for a while, since I created this thread and the battery has remained at 82%!
I have benched using AnTuTu twice and have excellent read and write speeds, compared to other benchies I have seen, OmegaRom is the best Rom I have ever used!
Cheers,
i tried cpufrills and its the best for me
I don't Think U mustuse over clocking,even my setting was min245 max 902,the effect just draining more battery,and if using to much can damaging ur prosessor
I know you might think what I'm going to write is unnecessary and going to contradict with your believes here. but I'm going say it anyway.
If you are going to use your device for a long time then I would suggest not to overclock too much. You'll know when something will go wrong with your over-clocking. Your SGA would start rebooting randomly. Heating up would be excessively common once you start overclocking, using your SGA while it's charging. Over clocking will definitely reduce your processor life span. People who do can over clock their device to get the max out of their device and know they're going to change the device in sometime later anyway.
Rushyang said:
I know you might think what I'm going to write is unnecessary and going to contradict with your believes here. but I'm going say it anyway.
If you are going to use your device for a long time then I would suggest not to overclock too much. You'll know when something will go wrong with your over-clocking. Your SGA would start rebooting randomly. Heating up would be excessively common once you start overclocking, using your SGA while it's charging. Over clocking will definitely reduce your processor life span. People who do can over clock their device to get the max out of their device and know they're going to change the device in sometime later anyway.
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Don't worry! Like I said, I have experience O/C'ing processors etc and I know how bad the effects can be! I am not going for a massive overclock at all. Just a tiny bump in the speed. At the moment, I am running 825mhz and already the speed has improved dramatically. I may go a little further but 902mhz is a bit mental for my liking.
Pistaaa said:
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
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SetCPU is free for XDA members and it's the best one ever...period
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
Pistaaa said:
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
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setCPU is free to if you download it from the forum