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The announcment of ICS 4.0 was just made if anyone isn't aware. What are the thoughts of ICS comming to the Amaze, and if so, how long before its actually implemented? Im curious to see how the "integrated" buttons on the screen are going to work out with phones that have phyisical captivate buttons. Its probibaly going to require a little modding in order to remove the "buttons" from the software and remap to the phisical buttons. Just another road-block to the destination of a fairly quick update! (Pun intended HTC!)
Sounds like an easy software change really.
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Hmm.. not so sure about that. The way they show-cased it at the event makes it seem as if the "buttons" are a heavy implimintation. For example when you watch a video the buttons disappear and the screen resizes itself to increase the screen size. And there are only three buttons that seem to change funtionwise, depending on what you are doing.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/htc-were-reviewing-ice-cream-sandwich-and-determining-our-plan/
In other words: You'll know. Someday. We're going to dodge that question as long as possible. We have one of the worst histories of updating software for our devices.
For reference, the Flyer still doesn't have Honeycomb although there was a nearly fully functional leak months ago.
JaiaV said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/htc-were-reviewing-ice-cream-sandwich-and-determining-our-plan/
In other words: You'll know. Someday. We're going to dodge that question as long as possible. We have one of the worst histories of updating software for our devices.
For reference, the Flyer still doesn't have Honeycomb although there was a nearly fully functional leak months ago.
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I think HTC is way better then other companies out there when it comes to upgrades, the biggest road block are the service providers in USA
HTC is faster than RIM when it comes to updates
Don't forget that Google requires 18 months of software support from release date of their certified devices.
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HTC is faster than RIM when it comes to updates
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And Samsuck too for that matter.
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Willieumm said:
And Samsuck too for that matter.
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I'm actually curious how they'll handle it this time around. They totally boned us with the original SGS; now that they've got the lead direct from Google for the next Nexus device maybe they'll actually not be completely useless? I'm not holding my breath though.
I'm pretty sure we'll have it even when its not official. Cyanogenmod or AOSP roms will do the trick, but if you want Sense with it, I don't know...
We will have sense 3.5 ported , CM9 hopefully & AOSP hopefully .
It's looking good ICS well at least the launcher .
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/Android4.0-System-Dump.zip
I hope it get';s ported soon
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/htc-were-reviewing-ice-cream-sandwich-and-determining-our-plan/
In other words: You'll know. Someday. We're going to dodge that question as long as possible. We have one of the worst histories of updating software for our devices.
For reference, the Flyer still doesn't have Honeycomb although there was a nearly fully functional leak months ago.
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That's a lie flyer has sense with honeycomb
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Wait tight. Grab a comfy seat ..ics would come to amaze in around 5-6 months. Lol. Ics its Sooo frikin awesome. Can't wait to get my hands on that galaxy nexus.
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if you dont know who mdeejay is look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2754407
he is an amazing dev
ill update more on him later
but show some love, im thinking of making some sort of bounty to get him the Device
He got Sense 4 working on various devices
Please leave some feedback if you want him here
I tried contacting him before. I never got a response.
These are all threads started by mdeejay:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=27093095
As you can see he's an awesome developer. We need someone like this in the Amaze forums.
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I tried contacting him before. I never got a response.
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Not if we flood him with request, he is sure to respond
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If he is actually wanting to work on the amaze I'd be glad to donate, mdeejay does great stuff used his stuff on the sensation. This is a dev I would love to get the device to if he is actually wanting to work on the amaze and own a device. Kinda sucks right now to get a device for someone at this moment with newer devices coming out it seems like most devs want to move on to those newer devices. It'd be awesome to have a dev who would actually want to own and use an amaze. Back when I was on the galaxy s2 forum they got Eugene373 a phone and because he was gonna use it as his phone he ended up bringing them so much great roms. To throw a device into a devs hands who is just willing to work on a couple roms for us, is kind of a shakey idea on one side its great and appreciated that they wanna help the amaze community out on the other hand they got lives and their preferred devices so you never know how long they will be willing to help out for.
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If we can get him here, that would be awesome and I am willing to help. The more the merrier
Any luck with this, has he expressed any desire picking up our device?
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He already said he would not work on a phone he doesn't have, also he is not noob friendly all his threads have the noon xda video on the bottom. Lmao.
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Kinda sucks right now to get a device for someone at this moment with newer devices coming out it seems like most devs want to move on to those newer devices.
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I would argue the quoted part above - our device still isn't even remotely obsolete. I was at a tmobile yesterday with a guy who works there who owned an amaze previously, but they gave him a htc one.. he isn't impressed. It is slimmer, and it includes beats - but otherwise it is the same phone without being able to access battery or have a microSD.
Sure, the international version is quad-core, but the newest phones in the US haven't made any attempt at pushing hardware specs-- we are still good competition.
There are a ton of devs that are still developing for devices that are definitely inferior to ours spec wise, that alone is a very big factor.. if they use our phone, they will fall in love(or they have bad taste!)
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I would argue the quoted part above - our device still isn't even remotely obsolete. I was at a tmobile yesterday with a guy who works there who owned an amaze previously, but they gave him a htc one.. he isn't impressed. It is slimmer, and it includes beats - but otherwise it is the same phone without being able to access battery or have a microSD.
Sure, the international version is quad-core, but the newest phones in the US haven't made any attempt at pushing hardware specs-- we are still good competition.
There are a ton of devs that are still developing for devices that are definitely inferior to ours spec wise, that alone is a very big factor.. if they use our phone, they will fall in love(or they have bad taste!)
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Well I partially agree with you, its not so much that the amaze is a bad device, its not behind the curve nor is it stale, however, the newer devices are easier to dev for from looking at the one s and one x even with no kernel source they are farther along. I love the amaze and I don't see anything compelling enough to upgrade to anytime soon. With that being said the amaze is no walk in the park to dev for, with missing drivers its already a not so easy phone to deal with, I truly hope if mdeejay or any developer that gets our device for that matter likes it the way owners of it do so that they can see a reason to get it beyond just helping us.
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ebatr8 said:
Well I partially agree with you, its not so much that the amaze is a bad device, its not behind the curve nor is it stale, however, the newer devices are easier to dev for from looking at the one s and one x even with no kernel source they are farther along. I love the amaze and I don't see anything compelling enough to upgrade to anytime soon. With that being said the amaze is no walk in the park to dev for, with missing drivers its already a not so easy phone to deal with, I truly hope if mdeejay or any developer that gets our device for that matter likes it the way owners of it do so that they can see a reason to get it beyond just helping us.
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The one series have kernel source
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The one series have kernel source
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Yep, you beat me to it http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
I know we will get source, but with only a week or so since the OFFICIAL OTA ICS, it may not be quite yet.. but we will get it, then it is ON.
Hey, and I like your edit framework.jar slides from earlier..
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The one series have kernel source
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Oh didn't know that, I have a one s but don't personally use it hopefully we see a new dev here soon.
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Well this got sidetracked...
Bring Mdeejay over here
The more the merrier
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Lol you would glacier haha
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Hm... we're working on another person too so keep your fingers crossed
When I had an Iconia I used his ROMs and they were pretty good. He helped out when he could. I would like to see more developers here too, but until we have a complete source code we not be left to rust. I'm grateful for all the support right now but we only have one custom kernel.
EclipzeRemix said:
if you dont know who mdeejay is look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2754407
he is an amazing dev
ill update more on him later
but show some love, im thinking of making some sort of bounty to get him the Device
He got Sense 4 working on various devices
Please leave some feedback if you want him here
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Do you have any replies from him yet?
If we get an official response from mdeejay we can get the ball rolling on this.
We need RIL. Bug HTC and VZW for the kernel. #HTCUSA #VZW
Lets not, so we don't piss them off and ruin our chances.
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Lets not, so we don't piss them off and ruin our chances.
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Given that we have already received nothing from them, is there really anything to lose?
I mean, the only thing they can hold back is the ICS official ROM, but we already have that...
If they do release the official rom, they cannot legally hold back the kernel source. So, what can they do?
I seriously considered a few days ago what would happen if one of us kindly emailed HTC explaining everything and politely asking for the kernel source.
THEY CAN HAVE US ALL ARRESTED FOR INTERNETS HARASSMENT, CHARLES CARREON HAS FREE TIME NOW.
Actually, the only thing we can do is keep asking, hashtag it up gentlemen, but keep it CLASSY. Type like English is your first language. Though they do hate bad PR, totally going to put #HatesCustomers on the end.
It worked for allowing access to unlock the booloader.
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SirSigma said:
I seriously considered a few days ago what would happen if one of us kindly emailed HTC explaining everything and politely asking for the kernel source.
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Someone do this, please.
A2Aegis said:
Someone do this, please.
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Go right ahead
AshtonTS said:
Go right ahead
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Any advice what I should write?
VZW could give a **** less and bugging them will never result in anything positive development-wise; they will release on whatever schedule/circumstances suits them, customers be damned...but I'm all for pounding on HTC via social sites or other avenues, i.e. petitions, letters, etc.
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Any advice what I should write?
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Tell them how sense slows down the device and we want AOSP but that's only possible with source and you should probably tell them about all the drama that goes on around here because we don't have it, oh and all the devs leaving us
You nuts? You gotta at least tell them something they want to hear. Try something kind of like this:
To whom it may concern,
I am an aspiring Android developer and for years, I've absolutely loved Android devices from HTC. In fact, the Galaxy SIII, Nexus, and other competitor phones have zero appeal to me because I've always loved HTC. I don't feel comfortable with any other hardware manufacturer because I know I can always expect great design, ergonomics, and a manufacturer-designed user interface that makes sense (so much so that you guys even call it Sense).
My latest device is the HTC Rezound, but I upgraded before the One X and other devices were coming out because Verizon is the carrier in my area with the best signal quality. I love my Rezound because it reeks of the superb design and quality I can always expect from HTC. However, I like to develop on it as well, and I've recently hit a few snags because I lack the kernel source for the phone. So I ask as a loyal customer, could you please let me have it?
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Your fan,
[NAME HERE]
Their not going to release a ICS kernel source when it hasn't even officially been rolled out yet in my opinion. Hopefully when it is released they drop the source quickly.
HTC Rezound
Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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Sirsigma and people like home are the reason companies are even willing to read what customers say, I've written to HTC about this myself already and everyone should do the same.
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con247 said:
Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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7 MONTHS?! That should be illegal. What the hell was stopping them?
As for our source, I doubt they are allowed by Verizon to release anything before OTA drops. Which will not happen until their new cash cow (Droid Incredible 4G) has had time to move plenty of units. So... probably no sooner than 2 weeks from now. That's if you're optimistic.
"...reeks of the superb design and quality..."
Perhaps not the best choice of words, lol.
But seriously, thanks for trying. This is too good a phone for HTC to let ignominiously die.
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con247 said:
Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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There Desire is code named Runnymede? I think I've seen a few GB ports for the DInc 2 and Nexus One floating around...
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WookieFan said:
There Desire is code named Runnymede? I think I've seen a few GB ports for the DInc 2 and Nexus One floating around...
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I think desire hd is runnymede. Not the original one
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Okay, I sent them an email. I hope we actually hear back about this.
There is alot of chatter about the Xperia S being a ASOP Android device, which can accept standard Android, instead of Sony's skin ontop.
Now this must surely present a dilemma for Sony. Either Sony only have a very loose association with it, providing binaries for hardware drivers, and that's it, which would drive anyone that wants it to unlock their bootloader, en-masse, which is surely something Sony DON'T want to happen.
OR...
They produce a signed FTF that can be flashed onto stock devices, which removes the Sony experience, but means users can also switch back...
This again is also not an ideal situation, as firstly their own inhouse consumer flashtools are not suited to either/or flashing of images and informing end users what the differences are etc. it also encourages users to move AWAY from the Sony UI experience and towards the stock Nexus experience (which is now rather good).
I want they provide choice,AOSP skin and Sony UI.
I don't see why that's so hard.
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XperianPro said:
I want they provide choice,AOSP skin and Sony UI.
I don't see why that's so hard.
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Because it's very hard to decouple the UI (be it Sony, Samsung, HTC or whoever) from the core of Android.
Perhaps they want Google to do most of the work.
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Perhaps they want Google to do most of the work.
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Hopefully they want. Why, they've got problems with providing stable release of ics and we need.to wait long for jb. Hopefully they are not making anything else, and focus on stable jb releases
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Google will not do 'most of the work' for Sony, as most of the code for AOSP is already open source and available from CodeAurora. The hardware porting part doesn't take that much time, it's Sony's proprietary technologies that need work. This also explains how we got AOSP-based JB ROMs before Sony released an official update.
Do not turn this thread into a Sony bashing thread its about asop so keep it that way.
If one more person comments in here about how long Sony is taking to release jb I will shut it down.
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I wish more manufacturers released AOSP phones or close to vanilla experience like the HTC Dream & Magic in the good old days without so much junk & bloatware.
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Galaxen said:
I wish more manufacturers released AOSP phones or close to vanilla experience like the HTC Dream & Magic in the good old days without so much junk & bloatware.
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But then they'd all be the same apart from the looks and thats not good marketing
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Hi guys.
After endless struggle with this hopeless "smartphone", trying multiple ROMs, uncountable fu**s shouted, playing both nice and dirty tricks to made this device usable, it's finally time to say enough. It's hard to express how much I hate this phone and how I hate sony for realeasing such a crap, and abandoning it completely before even one year have passed since initial release.
That's why I decided to destroy my Sola. I don't want to give it or sell to anone, because no one deserve such punishment and pain. It's time for payback, it's time for ravenge. I will really enjoy it.
Now, the question is, how should I destroy my Sola? Using hammer? With fire? Acid bath maybe? Throw it at the wall?
What''re your ideas? Maybe I will upload a movie with destructions process and name it "How to fix Xperia Sola issues"
I said the same with my XU and now I'm happy with Cyanogenmod 9 with everything working Give it a try (If you have unlocked bootloader)
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alvarorojas4 said:
I said the same with my XU and now I'm happy with Cyanogenmod 9 with everything working Give it a try (If you have unlocked bootloader)
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No, not everything is working and it never will be, not without novathor sources opened for devs (that's why FXP also abandoned novathor devices). FM Radio, floating touch issues, NFC issues, and so on and so on... It's hard choice between buggy stock rom with full capabilities and faster cyanogenmod with crippled capabilites...
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No, not everything is working and it never will be, not without novathor sources opened for devs (that's why FXP also abandoned novathor devices). FM Radio, floating touch issues, NFC issues, and so on and so on... It's hard choice between buggy stock rom with full capabilities and faster cyanoged with crippled capabilites...
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Ohh, you're right, NFC, and the Radio
but you shouldn't destroy it.
That's why i will never buy a sony phone again.
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alvarorojas4 said:
That's why i will never buy a sony phone again.
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Neither will I.
I want to buy it !
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Angristan said:
I want to buy it !
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No, you don't. Seriously.
I suggest you throw it in water and see how long can it withstand water
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ncpnc said:
No, you don't. Seriously.
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It was a joke, I'm not crazy crazy
I have a Xperia U so it's enough for me
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Ummm...
Put some deodorant in it spray it all over your phone and burn it'll be a show death
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A lot of harm was done to the environment and to people to produce this phone. And you want to destroy it? Put on stock Rom and give it to charity or someone else who can't afford a phone.
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ncpnc said:
Hi guys.
After endless struggle with this hopeless "smartphone", trying multiple ROMs, uncountable fu**s shouted, playing both nice and dirty tricks to made this device usable, it's finally time to say enough. It's hard to express how much I hate this phone and how I hate sony for realeasing such a crap, and abandoning it completely before even one year have passed since initial release.
That's why I decided to destroy my Sola. I don't want to give it or sell to anone, because no one deserve such punishment and pain. It's time for payback, it's time for ravenge. I will really enjoy it.
Now, the question is, how should I destroy my Sola? Using hammer? With fire? Acid bath maybe? Throw it at the wall?
What''re your ideas? Maybe I will upload a movie with destructions process and name it "How to fix Xperia Sola issues"
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Use some explosives. Or make a durability test - put it in a dishwasher, drop it from 3rd floor and drive it over with a car . be sure to make a movie.
Cheers, lol
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XPERIA U/sola are the bad phones I've ever seen. Most people are see this phones as a cheapest high performance phones. But the reality is worst. SONY MAKE.HOPELESS Don't destroy it. Give it to the person who can't afford to buy a android phone.
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No, they are great phones, just some people still did not realize its just freakin phone.
Sorry guys but this topic is really childish...
Thousands of happy users around but here is a lot of mouning about this. Lot of customs you can tweak yourself. People like you will never be happy with anything.
But the phone works well enough for me, no reason to change, beautifull display, sd card slot, fast enough.
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do drop test water test scratch test hammer test n all n don't forget to record in full HD ..!! N Upload on youtube
Better give it to a needy person
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Gave me an idea
Do a test on water durability, random drop tests, step tests, runover tests, pressure test. Compare it with a Nokia. Record it in full HD and upload on youtube, post the link here.
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A stake through the heart and a dip in acid bath is my suggestion.......
Found this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyqR5ksDNFU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I also want to give a comment onto this very special topic
I have also a XPERIA sola. Before it I used a LG GT540 (600MHz Single-Core; 256MB RAM etc) and it really ****ed up after a time but then I bought the Sola last year and first I was that happy with GB. Then came the ICS update which let me say: How beautiful can a phone be?
I was soo god damn happy about the ICS update even if it was aweful
What I'ld like to say is:
If you use your phone correctly and care about it it won't that ****ty. Sure the Xsola and XU aren't the best smartphones but with a little breeze of careing it's not that bad I like my phone, with it's small 512MB of RAM and also with it's ugly SoC and Support