There is alot of chatter about the Xperia S being a ASOP Android device, which can accept standard Android, instead of Sony's skin ontop.
Now this must surely present a dilemma for Sony. Either Sony only have a very loose association with it, providing binaries for hardware drivers, and that's it, which would drive anyone that wants it to unlock their bootloader, en-masse, which is surely something Sony DON'T want to happen.
OR...
They produce a signed FTF that can be flashed onto stock devices, which removes the Sony experience, but means users can also switch back...
This again is also not an ideal situation, as firstly their own inhouse consumer flashtools are not suited to either/or flashing of images and informing end users what the differences are etc. it also encourages users to move AWAY from the Sony UI experience and towards the stock Nexus experience (which is now rather good).
I want they provide choice,AOSP skin and Sony UI.
I don't see why that's so hard.
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XperianPro said:
I want they provide choice,AOSP skin and Sony UI.
I don't see why that's so hard.
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Because it's very hard to decouple the UI (be it Sony, Samsung, HTC or whoever) from the core of Android.
Perhaps they want Google to do most of the work.
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Perhaps they want Google to do most of the work.
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Hopefully they want. Why, they've got problems with providing stable release of ics and we need.to wait long for jb. Hopefully they are not making anything else, and focus on stable jb releases
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Google will not do 'most of the work' for Sony, as most of the code for AOSP is already open source and available from CodeAurora. The hardware porting part doesn't take that much time, it's Sony's proprietary technologies that need work. This also explains how we got AOSP-based JB ROMs before Sony released an official update.
Do not turn this thread into a Sony bashing thread its about asop so keep it that way.
If one more person comments in here about how long Sony is taking to release jb I will shut it down.
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I wish more manufacturers released AOSP phones or close to vanilla experience like the HTC Dream & Magic in the good old days without so much junk & bloatware.
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I wish more manufacturers released AOSP phones or close to vanilla experience like the HTC Dream & Magic in the good old days without so much junk & bloatware.
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But then they'd all be the same apart from the looks and thats not good marketing
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Hi everybody,
At the 3rd of September, Sony releases the binaries for xperia s to support JBQ's Xperia S experiment.
So I was really happy about that, coz I thought that jelly bean is near.
I thought that now, that when they have the binaries and drivers, the only thing to do for Google is to implement these drivers into android source code, because vanilla Android doesn't need so much configuration, etc.
So my question how long you think it takes that we have vanilla on our xperia s?
Marco
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anon_freak said:
Hi everybody,
At the 3rd of September, Sony releases the binaries for xperia s to support JBQ's Xperia S experiment.
So I was really happy about that, coz I thought that jelly bean is near.
I thought that now, that when they have the binaries and drivers, the only thing to do for Google is to implement these drivers into android source code, because vanilla Android doesn't need so much configuration, etc.
So my question how long you think it takes that we have vanilla on our xperia s?
Marco
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I hope very soon, i think FXP has done a good work yet on porting the cyanogen 10 to our device, so maybe they can start from this point to develop it... but i don't have seen a lot of rom and kernel for our phone like others Xperia serie's phones... maybe it's due only to the youthness of NXT line..
megamarini said:
I hope very soon, i think FXP has done a good work yet on porting the cyanogen 10 to our device, so maybe they can start from this point to develop it... but i don't have seen a lot of rom and kernel for our phone like others Xperia serie's phones... maybe it's due only to the youthness of NXT line..
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I don't know when the official release will be, but CM 10 will release its new M1 versions. In the moment we have a stable alpha-version and that's a big step too. But my opinion is that Sony is just inconfident about the official JB -.-
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I don't know when the official release will be, but CM 10 will release its new M1 versions. In the moment we have a stable alpha-version and that's a big step too. But my opinion is that Sony is just inconfident about the official JB -.-
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It is the 18th of September now- where are the sources?
Can we download them?
It is just an experiment to see how hard is to implement another device on the AOSP project. Not that updates will come from Google.
Words by K900.
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It is just an experiment to see how hard is to implement another device on the AOSP project. Not that updates will come from Google.
Words by K900.
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I hope is not just an experiment because have JB in ours Xperia S will be very performant, in my opinion. Sony is usually close to developers.
It may be also a test: rumors talks about a Sony nexus.. it will be a big step..:victory:
Actually, AOSP development seems very slow, at least from what I've been seeing on the git. Don't expect the sony bins to speed that project up
That's what I'm scared about because when android 5.0 comes soon how long would that take to reach the xperia s (nexus) becomes the update..
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I hope is not just an experiment because have JB in ours Xperia S will be very performant, in my opinion. Sony is usually close to developers.
It may be also a test: rumors talks about a Sony nexus.. it will be a big step..:victory:
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What happens next depends on the outcome of the experiment.
Firstly,
Don't take this the wrong way. Read it completely first and then express your opinions please.
No offense to all you awesome devs who spend time on making ROMS and try to give us your best. I appreciate every bit of your work.
Now back on Topic.
In the last 2-3 months or so, I have started to feel that there are too many stock based ROMS that have been appearing.
And honestly speaking, they all are siblings, i.e. Almost identical with a very minute difference in their looks or very minor cosmetic changes.
So my point is, This vast selection makes people who are new here ( noobs as we lovingly call them ) get confused and keep asking numerous times about which is the best ROM? And also bit*h about some ROM sometimes.
So, my message to you devs is that, if you are spending time on developing, why not make something really unique?
I am not forcing you to, but if all the work you do amounts to nothing since there is already an identical ROM out there, why not do something that you'll be remembered for?
I know this maybe too much for a non-developer guy like me to say or talk about, but I have my reasons to not have enough time to not develop. This lack of time I have made me feel, why do you guys spend time on something that's already been done?
Eg: our great korm first brought us AOKP ICS/ JB and now PAC.
emann is still trying hard to make GB super awesome.
ZduneX25 and Maxworks who take care of MIUI for neos
Sdk who gave us MIUI JB.
ThilinaC who's ROM is stock based, but he took a whole different approach for Pureness and made it less like Sony and more like his own, awesome themed ROM.
And yeah Zdune and mike for proving that pure AOSP doesn't suck. It is still the smoothest ICS has ever been on my phone. Ever.
And there are many more like these guys. Sorry if I didn't include your name coz I didn't recall it right now.
All I want to say is do something like they have done guys.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
Yeahs, i was thinking on this... Why dont they do like in x8 forums... Cm9 for locked bootloader
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Long live se tweaked v1 the base of most stock roms but true in what op says
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DeathCzar said:
Firstly,
Don't take this the wrong way. Read it completely first and then express your opinions please.
No offense to all you awesome devs who spend time on making ROMS and try to give us your best. I appreciate every bit of your work.
Now back on Topic.
In the last 2-3 months or so, I have started to feel that there are too many stock based ROMS that have been appearing.
And honestly speaking, they all are siblings, i.e. Almost identical with a very minute difference in their looks or very minor cosmetic changes.
So my point is, This vast selection makes people who are new here ( noobs as we lovingly call them ) get confused and keep asking numerous times about which is the best ROM? And also bit*h about some ROM sometimes.
So, my message to you devs is that, if you are spending time on developing, why not make something really unique?
I am not forcing you to, but if all the work you do amounts to nothing since there is already an identical ROM out there, why not do something that you'll be remembered for?
I know this maybe too much for a non-developer guy like me to say or talk about, but I have my reasons to not have enough time to not develop. This lack of time I have made me feel, why do you guys spend time on something that's already been done?
Eg: our great korm first brought us AOKP ICS/ JB and now PAC.
emann is still trying hard to make GB super awesome.
ZduneX25 and Maxworks who take care of MIUI for neos
Sdk who gave us MIUI JB.
ThilinaC who's ROM is stock based, but he took a whole different approach for Pureness and made it less like Sony and more like his own, awesome themed ROM.
And yeah Zdune and mike for proving that pure AOSP doesn't suck. It is still the smoothest ICS has ever been on my phone. Ever.
And there are many more like these guys. Sorry if I didn't include your name coz I didn't recall it right now.
All I want to say is do something like they have done guys.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
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dats what I was also thinking.. bcz I'm not a dev didn't dare to speak.. no offence to anyone... ∩__∩
Ok agreed with this, but bring us some more for locked bootloaders also then and not only for unlocked bootloaders what the must devs do, all the roms what i see here requires also stock kernel, so whats the point, no need to unlock your bootloader for a special rom.
Very simple into my eyes to understanding
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It is possible. Motorola doesn't allow you to unlock your bl. So all recent Motorola phones have all kinds of roms working on locked BL.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
Totally agree with you DeathCzar!
No offence to any dev....
But it's a thing I've noticed as well....
Some minor changes between them! And all claim the same
Not that I'm criticizing anyone's work ... Just stating the obvious...
Peace
Let's keep this friendly and On topic
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That's something I've been thinking for a while.
When I first joined xda.
There were some stock based roms but all of them were different in their own way.
But now all of them have the same stuff, same kind of performance,etc.
No offense to anyone
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Yep same here no offence to devs but al releases seem to have same performance, same ui etc I would also like to see a unique rom! With better performance!
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mitchellreece said:
Yep same here no offence to devs but al releases seem to have same performance, same ui etc I would also like to see a unique rom! With better performance!
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There is just one ROM like that UHD.
It's hands down the best ROM out there.
I really like the ideology of jader.
He gives us a stripped down performance driven ROM allowing users to customize the way we want.
Just look at the kind of testing he's doing with the new version.
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adity said:
There is just one ROM like that UHD.
It's hands down the best ROM out there.
I really like the ideology of jader.
He gives us a stripped down performance driven ROM allowing users to customize the way we want.
Just look at the kind of testing he's doing with the new version.
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Couldnt agree more!
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No offence,but even that Rom looks like many other Roms out here!
Nothing unusual, I feel!
Well,this is my opinion so you may very well have your opinion /say!
No offence
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Ghostfreak NB said:
No offence,but even that Rom looks like many other Roms out here!
Nothing unusual, I feel!
Well,this is my opinion so you may very well have your opinion /say!
No offence
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No offence ghost but we said it had best strip down performance! Not that it looks different!
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mitchellreece said:
No offence ghost but we said it had best strip down performance! Not that it looks different!
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You didn't get me mate,this thread topic is about making a different Rom so I firmly deny that uhd has any unusual looks n
Almost all stock Rom gives stable performance,
What's challenging is porting a different ui like that of HTC or Sammy n making it usable on our device
Again you may very well deny but this is my feel
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You didn't get me mate,this thread topic is about making a different Rom so I firmly deny that uhd has any unusual looks n
Almost all stock Rom gives stable performance,
What's challenging is porting a different ui like that of HTC or Sammy n making it usable on our device
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Agreed...HTC yes...Sammy..hell no!!!
sammy's ui has functionality but looks comical...
LoneWanderer said:
Agreed...HTC yes...Sammy..hell no!!!
sammy's ui has functionality but looks comical...
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That was just an example....Btw Touchwiz UI is one of the most functionality rich UI barring the looks
Sense is surely incredible ........especially when you run it on a Non-HTC device ,You just get high :lol:
To sum it up :
Anything apart from monotonous Sony looks maybe
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That was just an example....
Anything apart from Sony maybe
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True we don't get to see ROMs which are totally different but considering how old our devices are, we got flyme, joy, mokee, lewa, sense. There is even a new team I don't remember name of.
But I totally understand your point .
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I don't see any harm in releasing two sense based Rom if one can release zillions of Sony ui based Roms ,right?
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Well, right!!!
But only when the new one would be a faster release and would be a stable release, otherwise Zack is doing well. I got him PM in the morning, that there's a release in the next week.
Good for you mate!
I see you are determined to get some great Rom for your otherwise love lost Neo L
Commendable job on that :thumbup:
Now you will've cm 10,flyme, sense wow!
Btw
Talk about a Rom and now Mike just provided us one Aosp 4.1.2 stable for Neo V aka haida!
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After Sammy announced the S4 is coming out with the "vanilla" experience, the rumor mill started going crazy expecting htc to do the same, specially after one of their execs teweeted "wait".
Those rumors where quickly scuashed when another high up in the company tweeted that no htc was not planing a "vanilla" edition... However now the same guy (geek.com) that leaked that sammy was coming out with their has said that indeed htc is coming out with one as well.
So what do you guys think? And the big question would be, if they do come out with it, would we (T-mobile) guys be able to port it over and get OTA's directly from Google?
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Exactly what I came to this forum for. If they do release it, can I port it over to my T-Mobile HTC One.
Since the only device announced at I/O was the S4 vanilla edition, I decided waiting around for a Nexus wasn't worthy it. I have the Galaxy Nexus, but I never liked the plastic feel of it and the S4 feels the same way, just with way better specs.
I've always liked HTC devices going back to the Windows Mobile days.
obiaquino said:
After Sammy announced the S4 is coming out with the "vanilla" experience, the rumor mill started going crazy expecting htc to do the same, specially after one of their execs teweeted "wait".
Those rumors where quickly scuashed when another high up in the company tweeted that no htc was not planing a "vanilla" edition... However now the same guy (geek.com) that leaked that sammy was coming out with their has said that indeed htc is coming out with one as well.
So what do you guys think? And the big question would be, if they do come out with it, would we (T-mobile) guys be able to port it over and get OTA's directly from Google?
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I think it is true
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-htc-one-coming-soon-vanilla-android
I cant wait I had the nexus 4 and the. Got the I5 for like a week then got the s4
And boy lagged I use my phone's intenively multi taking between navigation texting and browsing and calling all with in seconds of each other while working and both the I5 and s4 could handle it but the One handles it beautifully it's amazing and the building is so mmm
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Sorry lost train of thought I can wait to flash stock and see how much more smoothly it runs with 4.2 lol
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and we will never fully experience this because of S being ON
U can flash already as long as u unlock and flash recovery s on will stay on but ucan still flash roms
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yeah but its not the same thing thought
Hmm.....
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...tion-its-real-and-coming-in-summer/?ttag=fbwp
it would be nice to be back on stock but i cant go with out the awesome camera features....
xtkxhom3r said:
it would be nice to be back on stock but i cant go with out the awesome camera features....
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Yeah, I worry about Google's direction to slap AOSP on pre-existing devices (S4/One so far). Sure they don't need to design, engineer and product their own phone (Nexus 4) so from an infrastructure standpoint it makes sense. But once you start porting AOSP to multiple models, it will inevitably slow software releases because Google will have to ensure compatibility with varying hardware. Also, features will be missing that will make people upset (custom camera software, beats, multi-screen, etc).
Sure they will run pure AOSP, but at what cost (feature-wise)? That has me concerned.
Unless HTC/Sammy/Moto? release their highly configured software apps (camera, etc) independently, the AOSP experience on these currently produced devices will leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
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Yeah, I worry about Google's direction to slap AOSP on pre-existing devices (S4/One so far). Sure they don't need to design, engineer and product their own phone (Nexus 4) so from an infrastructure standpoint it makes sense. But once you start porting AOSP to multiple models, it will inevitably slow software releases because Google will have to ensure compatibility with varying hardware. Also, features will be missing that will make people upset (custom camera software, beats, multi-screen, etc).
Sure they will run pure AOSP, but at what cost (feature-wise)? That has me concerned.
Unless HTC/Sammy/Moto? release their highly configured software apps (camera, etc) independently, the AOSP experience on these currently produced devices will leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
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Then don't buy one. More options are always better. IMO
I miss AOSP, but for once I feel there's features on the Sense ROM I don't want to give up. I think they did a really good job and for once I'm not pulling my hair out and needing to root the phone. (That's saying something!)
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-6452_7-57586864/htc-one-nexus-user-experience-confirmed/
It's a reality guys... Really hope that devs can port this for us Tmobile users...
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I miss AOSP, but for once I feel there's features on the Sense ROM I don't want to give up. I think they did a really good job and for once I'm not pulling my hair out and needing to root the phone. (That's saying something!)
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Same goes for me. I could live without the gallery (although nice), beats (there are plenty of EQ apps out there), blink feed, and many others. the one piece i could not go without is the camera software! Sequence shot alone is stellar, and some of the other zoe features are great as well.
That said i am keeping my fingers crossed that the fine devs here will be able to port the camera software to the stock rom when it hits. If that happens this phone would be absolutely perfect in my eyes!
obiaquino said:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-6452_7-57586864/htc-one-nexus-user-experience-confirmed/
It's a reality guys... Really hope that devs can port this for us Tmobile users...
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Yes, especially since the announcement did not say it would have TMO radios. I think this is basically an ATT device, similar to the 32 Gb unlocked version.
We may not have to port....
obiaquino said:
After Sammy announced the S4 is coming out with the "vanilla" experience, the rumor mill started going crazy expecting htc to do the same, specially after one of their execs teweeted "wait".
Those rumors where quickly scuashed when another high up in the company tweeted that no htc was not planing a "vanilla" edition... However now the same guy (geek.com) that leaked that sammy was coming out with their has said that indeed htc is coming out with one as well.
So what do you guys think? And the big question would be, if they do come out with it, would we (T-mobile) guys be able to port it over and get OTA's directly from Google?
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Check this article out! Im really starting to like HTC after reading stuff like this, I really hope they deliver soon.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/05/3...-owners-to-remove-sense-ui-from-their-device/
I just want a camera that's a camera. Zoe seems stupid to me as do filters.
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shabazz18 said:
I just want a camera that's a camera. Zoe seems stupid to me as do filters.
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Zoe isn't on by default.
However, I found some pretty good uses for it. It's better than using the "action" shot setting. It's literally like taking freeze frames from high definition video. I've finally been able to get decent pictures of my dog. It's hard to get her to stand still.
The camera was the main reason that I stayed on stock but the aokp camera is actually really good
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If you use vanilla before it boring but functional
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Dear Devs,
Android 4.4 is out and will support our devices too. Any one to work on to support our beloved Optimus One or All developers moved to a high end device already.
Thanks,
Kiran Kumar
Ya Google said that the low end android smartphones having at least 512mb of ram can run Kitkat smoothly. It will be new birth to our beloved Lg optimus one
Waiting for our developers reaction.
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Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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But... what about porting AOSP rom ?)
OMG, but one problem all developers are to lazy work with this legacy device! Sorry am bad English
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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nomancoolboy said:
Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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that's not a problem.
-_-
You are like "I want that new 4.4 thingy, i don't know the new features but who cares cos it's New! Yeee ^_^ make it work make it".
Don't get me wrong but,
GB or 2.3.x was the best Android OS for our p500, well i still believe it is.
Why?
Cos there wasn't any Fc's, no post like "oh nooo camera image sh1ty", no malfunction on hardware level nor software,
Some dev, cavemen i believe was his name, fixed our multitouch problem, i don't think this fix was implemented on ics or jb since i've never found any evidence for it, test with "multitouch app" see what i mean.
The ICS is still in development, 4.2 JB has reached his final build, 4.3 has started it's dev.
With ICS we got less free ram, less free storage space but we gained better UI, kinda, and most important better system compatibility. Battery was somewhat intact.
With JB 4.2 we got the 3.0 kernel, more functionality and great battery drain but huge with wifi on. Less ram again, less space, new bugs, and the end of p500 gaming era xD.
Custom Rom numbers have fallen a lot too.
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
(i find Talho and Ginger DX best Roms, Talho as you know for gaming and Ginger as the best customized rom, so much functionality. But I'm running JB only cos gives me the BEST sound quality.)
Cheers.
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Is the new google experience launcher work? I mean does it at least work at the basic level?
please don't expect nexus 4 or nexus 5 functions shinny gimmick but if at least the basic feature of a launcher works then it is little improvement
to experience the feel of newer OS
as for the comment about perfecting 4.0 or 4.2
I am a bit in the middle with that .
because usually newer code is cleaner, thus more efficient, and who knows it maybe backward port friendly
and I think our development for 4.0 and 4.2 has reached is max because of the kernel limitation (correct me if I am wrong)
trying to port 4.4 would be an interesting hack In my opinion . a challange
and proof of concept I know software developer / programmer likes to proof their concept
they like challenge
try and get the google experience launcher here
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/download-and-install-the-new-google-experience-launcher/
nomancoolboy said:
Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Velvet will fix this
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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chalo99 said:
Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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But the source is not available for armv6 devices ...so we have to wait
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I think that cm will be habit late so why don't you drvs start with another ROM! Maybe simple aosp or a better one slimkat which is already out for nexus 4. I believe that slimkat will fit our phone perfectly as it is slim and needs less system storage.
Thx in advance! Devs are making a valuable effort! Hats off for them!
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another version of google launcher
this time it is XDA version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506488
Velvet FCs for me. Problem may well be an armv7 jni once again. Those FCs make the launcher really fun.
There is a launcher3.apk around which bypasses the Google Now business.
Will 4.4 run on our devices? Really?
Two problems:
Armv6! Pre-compiled closed source stuff for armv7. Just like before.
Room on /system for various new libraries. I am trying them on sdext with symlinks. This is Linux so this should work. This is Android so who knows?
Newer gapps and components are bigger than ever. Sort of contradicts all the buzz.
I was wrong ..
Most of the people are using it as a primary phones :thumbup::thumbup:
Thats good
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Left4DeadMW said:
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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Exactly. Project Svelte is what I was referring to. So we should see some better performance than with Jelly Bean.
Logan_M said:
But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Perhaps.
Never said something like useless.
And getting high expect = won't get disappointed at the end.
So kitkat4.4 would have better performance then JB?
I mean, CM team spend time porting/dev JB ROM to our, well I might as say old, p500 and couldn't perfect it, greatest issues still are camera/battery/more space same storage, as android versions progress more and more storage space is taken, as well as ram usage.
And now somehow, google will make 4.4 universal build with all features from previous versions?
Google hasn't made any ICS or JB p500 specific ROM then it would take so much time.
But, making universal builds for phones-alike would be better option but builds won't be phone specific optimized.
I doubt kitkat's realization. It's a nice though but imagine the number of phones that still run on ROMs under JB.
EDIT: (source: xda and wiki)
"video playback performance issues due to missing libraries for hardware assisted decoding since ICS"
Would this be fixed? I remember now, I could never watched those Naruto downloaded ep's, video playback was like 1frame-per-sec (online streaming still fine)
Hey Guys
just a quick question, how come the z2 doesn't have a lot of dev attention on xda? is it because it maybe isn't very popular or maybe there are other factors I haven't heard of?
Cheers
The device isnt popular and alot of roms are based on CM11 and AOSP
Official CM11 is in a unstable state so theres that
There is no AOSP port yet
The lack of popularity and price play a factor so official roms will come but not too many
Me my self im hoping for Ubuntu Touch
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I think it might also be due to the fact the phone isn't readily available in the US? But that's just a guess
Yup, both the following posts nailed it. If you want amazing third party roms, nexus device followed up by sammy, HTC, Motorola, then lastly our beloved Sony lol.
It's still early...
Device is still new and you just have to wait few months more.
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