Hi everybody,
At the 3rd of September, Sony releases the binaries for xperia s to support JBQ's Xperia S experiment.
So I was really happy about that, coz I thought that jelly bean is near.
I thought that now, that when they have the binaries and drivers, the only thing to do for Google is to implement these drivers into android source code, because vanilla Android doesn't need so much configuration, etc.
So my question how long you think it takes that we have vanilla on our xperia s?
Marco
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anon_freak said:
Hi everybody,
At the 3rd of September, Sony releases the binaries for xperia s to support JBQ's Xperia S experiment.
So I was really happy about that, coz I thought that jelly bean is near.
I thought that now, that when they have the binaries and drivers, the only thing to do for Google is to implement these drivers into android source code, because vanilla Android doesn't need so much configuration, etc.
So my question how long you think it takes that we have vanilla on our xperia s?
Marco
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I hope very soon, i think FXP has done a good work yet on porting the cyanogen 10 to our device, so maybe they can start from this point to develop it... but i don't have seen a lot of rom and kernel for our phone like others Xperia serie's phones... maybe it's due only to the youthness of NXT line..
megamarini said:
I hope very soon, i think FXP has done a good work yet on porting the cyanogen 10 to our device, so maybe they can start from this point to develop it... but i don't have seen a lot of rom and kernel for our phone like others Xperia serie's phones... maybe it's due only to the youthness of NXT line..
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I don't know when the official release will be, but CM 10 will release its new M1 versions. In the moment we have a stable alpha-version and that's a big step too. But my opinion is that Sony is just inconfident about the official JB -.-
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I don't know when the official release will be, but CM 10 will release its new M1 versions. In the moment we have a stable alpha-version and that's a big step too. But my opinion is that Sony is just inconfident about the official JB -.-
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It is the 18th of September now- where are the sources?
Can we download them?
It is just an experiment to see how hard is to implement another device on the AOSP project. Not that updates will come from Google.
Words by K900.
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Felimenta97 said:
It is just an experiment to see how hard is to implement another device on the AOSP project. Not that updates will come from Google.
Words by K900.
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I hope is not just an experiment because have JB in ours Xperia S will be very performant, in my opinion. Sony is usually close to developers.
It may be also a test: rumors talks about a Sony nexus.. it will be a big step..:victory:
Actually, AOSP development seems very slow, at least from what I've been seeing on the git. Don't expect the sony bins to speed that project up
That's what I'm scared about because when android 5.0 comes soon how long would that take to reach the xperia s (nexus) becomes the update..
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megamarini said:
I hope is not just an experiment because have JB in ours Xperia S will be very performant, in my opinion. Sony is usually close to developers.
It may be also a test: rumors talks about a Sony nexus.. it will be a big step..:victory:
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What happens next depends on the outcome of the experiment.
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Hi,
I think of buying a xperia s now, but before I want to know, if it is sure, that it will get aosp support. I can decide - galaxy nexus or xperia s, but xs is atm a better offer (ca 220€ and it's new) (galaxy nexus for ca 280€).
Will it really get aosp? And I have a sk17i now and for custom rom/kernel I had to unlock bootloader --> voids warranty. So have you got an idea, if I will have to unlock bootloader, if I wanna get the aosp rom? I don't think so, cause sony and google are going to work together, but don't know exactly!
Thanks in advance
Mihahn
Edit: Looks like sony dropped the AOSP support, lucky I didn't buy an xperia s
We have a ready device tree for ICS, so you can build pretty much everything source based, including AOSP.
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We have a ready device tree for ICS, so you can build pretty much everything source based, including AOSP.
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Okay, but as far as I know, xperia s should get official aosp support by google. It should be like a nexus (Just look here). So the question is, if anybody knows, if it's sure it'll be suported by google?
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Okay, but as far as I know, xperia s should get official aosp support by google. It should be like a nexus (Just look here). So the question is, if anybody knows, if it's sure it'll be suported by google?
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That is nothing more than an experiment. The Xperia S will still get updates from Sony, not Google.
Pretty sure
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...bqs-vanilla-android-xperia-s-project-download
So it'd be better to buy a Galaxy nexus if I want to have Updates at First, cause for this vanilla Rom I will have to unlock Bootloader, Flash the Kernel and after that install the Rom. Not that Sony will give us the choice, if we wanna have the Sony or the vanilla rom?
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mihahn said:
So it'd be better to buy a Galaxy nexus if I want to have Updates at First, cause for this vanilla Rom I will have to unlock Bootloader, Flash the Kernel and after that install the Rom. Not that Sony will give us the choice, if we wanna have the Sony or the vanilla rom?
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Long story short - you will get the new versions (vanilla style) faster with the nexus. As k900 said, this is an experiment. We all hope that some great developments will come out of it, but it isn't for sure and is just the beginning.
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mihahn said:
So it'd be better to buy a Galaxy nexus if I want to have Updates at First, cause for this vanilla Rom I will have to unlock Bootloader, Flash the Kernel and after that install the Rom. Not that Sony will give us the choice, if we wanna have the Sony or the vanilla rom?
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Depending on where in the world you are and where you buy your Nexus you might have to flash the latest update yourself anyways. Yakjuxw phones still haven't gotten Jelly Bean and it took 4 months for them to be updated from, I think it was, 4.0.2 to 4.0.4.
Once the AOSP Xperia S gets up and running it's possible, though I wouldn't count on it, that it could get its updates quicker than any Samsung controlled variant of the Nexus.
From what I understood by translating this with Google, we'll get Jellybean soon.
http://vnsony.com/threads/2486/
They say that the guy who told them very accurate info about new Sony smartphones(Yuga and Odin) also gave them info that there will be a Jelly Bean update in two weeks.
Well, your thoughts, gentlemen!
I think Xperia S will get support for updates up to Key Lime Pie, so it wasn't something to worry about.
Late October/early November seems most likely for JB on fujis and blues, late November for montblancs.
fujis= xperia s and arco hd
blues= xperia t tx v etc.
montblanc= xperia p u sola
that right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31991116&postcount=75
this is exciting! it is strange though that sony have kept so quiet on this release, as normally they tend to mention an update and then it comes a few weeks later? is there a reason why they haven't confirmed yet either that said handsets will be updated?
thanks
adsada arc said:
fujis= xperia s and arco hd
blues= xperia t tx v etc.
montblanc= xperia p u sola
that right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31991116&postcount=75
this is exciting! it is strange though that sony have kept so quiet on this release, as normally they tend to mention an update and then it comes a few weeks later? is there a reason why they haven't confirmed yet either that said handsets will be updated?
thanks
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Yeah, pretty much. Those are board names: fuji - S3 based (S, Acro HD, Acro S, NX, etc), montblanc - U8500 based (P, U, Sola, Go, etc), blue - S4 based (T, TX, TL, V, not J). Expect an announcement soon.
I don't care about sony's UI jelly bean.
I just want AOSP android 4.2 work on our Xperia S...
(maybe this update will come with the announcement of android 4.2??
seburton said:
I don't care about sony's UI jelly bean.
I just want AOSP android 4.2 work on our Xperia S...
(maybe this update will come with the announcement of android 4.2??
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We don't even know if it exists. Inb4 AndroidAndMe rumors.
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We don't even know if it exists. Inb4 AndroidAndMe rumors.
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Xperia S should receive Jelly Bean within 2 months from now
thunderising said:
Xperia S should receive Jelly Bean within 2 months from now
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Much less.
I don't really care about Sonys JB, me just wantz k900s AOKP fully working !
I too think the same about AOSP there is no update in official log of doing anything for a month
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I don't care about sony's UI jelly bean.
I just want AOSP android 4.2 work on our Xperia S...
(maybe this update will come with the announcement of android 4.2??
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And i hope sony will make some amazing stuff with the posibility of notification bar on 4.1
Who cares about AOSP,stock rom works great.
Loris93 said:
Who cares about AOSP,stock rom works great.
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I care, and so do many !!!
Harsh7689 said:
I care, and so do many !!!
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You got that right
Hope there will be a fully working AOKP soon. This sony's JellyBean could help to get camera and HDMI working on custom roms.
Finally I will not change my phone soon.....I'll wait what's coming for the Xperia S....
You know it would be cool if Sony beside his UI leaves a stock UI so we would basically have 2 UI's.Wouldn't that be cool?I saw that with Huawei phone i think...
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Well I don't know about timing - on Android, Sony hasn't suddenly surprised users with version upgrades like that before, they tend to announce it in advance, and more recently, closer to the launch date as seen with the 2012 phones with ICS. This would be the tightest schedule yet, if they do announce it soon.
Previously, I wouldn't have minded much about Jelly Bean, but I was browsing a 2010 Sony Ericsson phone on 2.1 and it is MUCH faster than my 2012 Sony phone on ICS - so the aim of Jelly Bean to deliver performance and experience improvements of ICS is welcome in my book ... :good:
It's clearly going to happen. Sony have big plans to increase market share this year and promptness of updates is key to getting a god reputation. and Samsung has already got their jellybean updates rolling.....
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Trouble is I'm not sure pumping out 3 new handsets a week is the way to do it
Loris93 said:
Who cares about AOSP,stock rom works great.
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More choices are better.
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/
"Yesterday you probably saw Google announce the next version of Jelly Bean (Android 4.3) – we’re already getting stuck in and can confirm we’ll make 4.3 available for: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP and Xperia Z Ultra…
We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest."
I personally will be really surprised if Novathor-powered Xperias (P, U, Sola, Go) get updated.
let's hope, bu not this much!
That is a dream that will never happen lol
Xu doesn't have 4.1.2 or 4.2.2.... So if these phones have android 4.3, it will be with a custom rom
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As the changelog says, there is not much visible difference between 4.2.2 and 4.3 and main focus was on improving multiuser support.
If I am not wrong its like upgrading from 2.3.5 to 2.3.7. So if we get a good 4.2.2 (CM10.1) I'll be more than satisfied
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As the changelog says, there is not much visible difference between 4.2.2 and 4.3 and main focus was on improving multiuser support.
If I am not wrong its like upgrading from 2.3.5 to 2.3.7. So if we get a good 4.2.2 (CM10.1) I'll be more than satisfied
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as pulser_g2 said
Since everyone always loves MOAR VERSION NUMBAH...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43914395
just the fact that it says 4.3 means a lot for some people
interesting, let we see the first boot of 4.3 in novathor devices.
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Yeah, the changes in 4.3 are mostly some under-the-hood stuff: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html?43
While it isn't a necessity, it would still be nice to have an up to date operating system.
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Either 4.2.2 or 4.3 for NovaThor would be really nice - I personally want lockscreen widgets and DashClock - but I don't know if ST-Ericsson built the sources for such an update...
No android 4.1.2 is the last update for novathor u8500 device cause NOVATHOR is dead and won't release any source for our device...their are totally drop us behind other processor manufacture just like Snapdragon did!
Xperia_Fans said:
No android 4.1.2 is the last update for novathor u8500 device cause NOVATHOR is dead and won't release any source for our device...their are totally drop us behind other processor manufacture just like Snapdragon did!
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Totally agree - i too read somewhere that non novathor device will get 4.3
wish this could be done by our great developers here :good:
Dreams Unlimited
Already received 4.1 updated very late ... no hopes for 4.3
Who cares? I mean by the time Sony gets off their asses and starts updating our low to mid end devices android 5 will be out and there is no way I'll still have this pos Xperia p
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No android 4.1.2 is the last update for novathor u8500 device cause NOVATHOR is dead and won't release any source for our device...their are totally drop us behind other processor manufacture just like Snapdragon did!
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+1 Bro @Xperia_Fans
thats why i get soon an Xperia Z or ZU but i get stick around here like i do on neo forum, and i heard limepie (android 5.0 comes in October , Source: somewhere on google)
so people forgot it, we XP users get no 4.3, and hope? no there is no hope !
Pandemic said:
+1 Bro @Xperia_Fans
thats why i get soon an Xperia Z or ZU but i get stick around here like i do on neo forum, and i heard limepie (android 5.0 comes in October , Source: somewhere on google)
so people forgot it, we XP users get no 4.3, and hope? no there is no hope !
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whhoowww, thats good to hear sir, Lime Pie? DExcited) wish my X Go is in the list of LIME PIE
maybe we won't get official JB 4.3, but i've seen on github that DevSwift1 tries to port CM10.2 to Xperia U, so if he succeeds, he and Percy will probably develop CM10.2 for all: P, U, Sola and Go .
It's not as good as stock JB 4.3, but it's still very cool
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maybe we won't get official JB 4.3, but i've seen on github that DevSwift1 tries to port CM10.2 to Xperia U, so if he succeeds, he and Percy will probably develop CM10.2 for all: P, U, Sola and Go .
It's not as good as stock JB 4.3, but it's still very cool
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I think it would be way better
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I think it would be way better
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Official update would be better, becuase then we would have more sources and development would be easier .
What's more, people who can't unlock their bl won't be able to flash it .
But for me it's cool enough
CM 10.1 Is The Dead End For Our Devices
And I Am Currently Using android 4.3 And Not Much Different Than 4.2.2
http://www.android.com/kitkat/
The new version of Android has been announced & it says that it will be supported to run on low RAM (512MB), single core devices as well!
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/504575/20130909/android-4-kitkat-os-top-devices-features.htm
Post your thoughts about this.
I've heard a lot about its so called optimisation for lower end devices and I'm really praying that it is true!
Whilst the dev community here have done an excellent job in keeping the 2011 Xperia line fresh, it would be just awesome if it doesn't feel like our devices are being stretched to their maximum potential to run as is with JB.
Another 'hope' I have is that with the better support for low end...our batteries might just stop being blown away like a butterfly in a hurricane.
(Ok they say hope oft deceives, but one can only be optimistic)
I guess the new kernel will greatly improve the battery life & it says that there is optimization for running sensors with a very low battery consumption. :fingers-crossed:
@ak070
did you checked this video:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...drm-partition-backup-script-xda-developer-tv/
that guy told that Sony Ericsson devices probarly get no 4.4 only Sony Devices !
but we shall see
Lol! He didn't say that 2011 Xperias won't get 4.4. He said that 2011 Xperias won't be able to backup their DRM partition using that tool.
Here it is!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/easily-backup-the-ta-partition-on-your-sony-xperia-device/
We'll see what happens...
Even without 'official' support, I'd be optimistic about getting 4.4 on our Xperias, we do have a really good dev. community here.
We've got 4.3 roms here that are being worked on (CM 10.2 - ok its not ready for daily use but its being worked on) so hopefully when 4.4 comes we'll get the same!
we can use custom 4.4 roms but we are losing the advantages of ROM by sticking to same hardware since 2011...
it's good to have latest OS on older devices but we won't enjoy maximum of it ... in future we need up-gradable mobiles like assembled pc's ( really man )
It says its optimized to run on devices with old hardware (especially) so I guess if we happen to come up with a 4.4 ROM, it will be smoother than JB but obviously it will need latest kernel sources.
I really wish that custom configuration device concept comes true...
If this News is true den we Can Have Kitkat as smooth as GB..
Then it ll be great
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This is great news 4.4 on our old devices.. 2011 Xperia line up is still alive..
Questions
Will it be available for HTC Wildfire S [512 RAM][600MHz Single Core] ?
Man, it will be available for everyone, sources are posted at google source, it depends on manufacturer or developer if it will be out for your device as an image or flashable zip. If it is a low activity device then it is clear that update will not be released for your device.
We should learn things and try contributing instead of "hoping" we have plenty of guides to help us build ourselves or atlest help the developing Devs.. If we keep the hoping game on then I dont see that day too far when a rom will be updated once in a month or may be 6 months in neo forum.. Search, Learn, help and most important stop being noob..
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vishal_android freak said:
We should learn things and try contributing instead of "hoping" we have plenty of guides to help us build ourselves or atlest help the developing Devs.. If we keep the hoping game on then I dont see that day too far when a rom will be updated once in a month or may be 6 months in neo forum.. Search, Learn, help and most important stop being noob..
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Agree with you but this thread is not intended for hoping or something like Sony will or will not release 4.4. (Obviously they won't )
Sole purpose of this thread is to express people's thoughts on 4.4 KitKat.
Just saying...
Cheers!
ak070
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Agree with you but this thread is not intended for hoping or something like Sony will or will not release 4.4. (Obviously they won't )
Sole purpose of this thread is to express people's thoughts on 4.4 KitKat.
Just saying...
Cheers!
ak070
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Expect The Unexpected
who knows.. sony may also release kitkat for 2011 xperia devices..
lets hope for the best ...
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manoj_nike15 said:
Expect The Unexpected
who knows.. sony may also release kitkat for 2011 xperia devices..
lets hope for the best ...
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Maybe for 2012 sony ours are 2011 sony Ericsson..
deccen90 said:
Maybe for 2012 sony ours are 2011 sony Ericsson..
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So forget it
It is what it is
:::[ Pandemic Quote :: Face Your Insanity !!..
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Look!!
it will be Great ..... i can't wait
XD
Lets hope @mikeioanna will make 4.4 Kitkat possible for our xperia 2011 series
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Lets hope @mikeioanna will make 4.4 Kitkat possible for our xperia 2011 series
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Yet to be released... Expected date october 14, we must support any developer who made 4.4 rom available for our legacy devices
I'm dam sure that all Xperia 2011 devices will surely get this because same configuration ram, soc..
Hello everybody,
I just open this thread to discuss about Android 4.4 KitKat for our lovely Novathor Devices
So here's my opinion:
I still have hope that Sony will update our Novathor Devices. Google announced that KitKat is fitting on 512MB devices well so it's not impossible Some people here lost theri hope on official updates from Sony but not me!
So what's your opinion about it?
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Hello everybody,
I just open this thread to discuss about Android 4.4 KitKat for our lovely Novathor Devices
So here's my opinion:
I still have hope that Sony will update our Novathor Devices. Google announced that KitKat is fitting on 512MB devices well so it's not impossible Some people here lost theri hope on official updates from Sony but not me!
So what's your opinion about it?
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Well, in my opinion, I've lost my hope...
But next week, SONY will release the 4.3/4.4 update plan.
We can still wait for it!!
IAmNice said:
THey wont update our phones. I dont even want the update from Sony. WIll take so long for them to provide a bugless 4.4 and im pretty sure our devs can provide a much better android experience.
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Can they? Don't think so. Bluetooth & Wifi Tethering is an issue on every Dev-Rom. Well. If you don't need it... But i like the Stock 4.1.
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THey wont update our phones. I dont even want the update from Sony. WIll take so long for them to provide a bugless 4.4 and im pretty sure our devs can provide a much better android experience.
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+1
Yea correct!
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But maybe there are some people who like the Sony stuff? Okay I don't but the Sony Stuff was already helpful on porting some things
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I'm not putting hope on it that Sony will release an official update for our device.
Google itself won't update their Galaxy Nexus (http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5051958/google-galaxy-nexus-will-not-be-upgraded-android-4-4-kit-kat) and its even more capable of running kitkat for it has 1Gb of ram...http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus_i9250-4219.php
i will just wait for the wonderful works of the awesome developers here in xda
I would like an official update by Sony. It should cover things like floating touch and would bring my dead ICS XPeria Sola back to life. I'm not an optimist, let's hope I'm wrong.
don`t lost hope guys wait for dev. to release the latest ver. kitkat. its smother than sony update
hope my xsola will have 4.4 rom
We all hope that
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eirh said:
I would like an official update by Sony. It should cover things like floating touch and would bring my dead ICS XPeria Sola back to life. I'm not an optimist, let's hope I'm wrong.
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Then you are most probably wrong. Stop hoping. Xperia U, Go, P and Sola will not get anymore updates:
-Novathor is dead, ST-Ericsson already closed its doors.
-Sony will rather focus it's resources on more expensive phones like Xperia S, T,Z and Z1 rather than low-mid range phones like Xperia U or Go.
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Yes, dont hope to get the official update from Sony. You will be disappointed. Also our devs don't have necessary drivers for our hardware, so it is difficult to make a fully working 4.4 Rom. Hope our devs here will make our devices run on 4.4 with only few acceptable issues.
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xperia p isnt that low range phone... Doesnt it have more possibilities to get kit kat?
dont think so that sony will update our devices ... but some great devs will surely bring the KitKat taste
Hope they will build a pure AOSP Rom ?
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I dont think that Sony will update to 4.4 nivathor devices... But I am hoping for a porting !
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If Sony didn't even updated their last year's flagship models, why would they update midrange phones? Even Google themselves won't update the Galaxy Nexus, even though it's more than capable to run Kit Kat.
Hmm maybe Android 4.4 KitKat isn't all about lower requirement. Maybe its Android 5.0 that we waiting and they should name it Android 5.0 LEPO (LOW END PHONE ONLY)
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That would be awesome! Just a special version for low-end devices. But this also needs developing and time
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kopter36 said:
Hmm maybe Android 4.4 KitKat isn't all about lower requirement. Maybe its Android 5.0 that we waiting and they should name it Android 5.0 LEPO (LOW END PHONE ONLY)
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If they had one sony would not roll it out. We are out of their update support. We receive only bug fixes.
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