[DISCUSSION] Too many Stock Based ROMS? - Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro

Firstly,
Don't take this the wrong way. Read it completely first and then express your opinions please.
No offense to all you awesome devs who spend time on making ROMS and try to give us your best. I appreciate every bit of your work.
Now back on Topic.
In the last 2-3 months or so, I have started to feel that there are too many stock based ROMS that have been appearing.
And honestly speaking, they all are siblings, i.e. Almost identical with a very minute difference in their looks or very minor cosmetic changes.
So my point is, This vast selection makes people who are new here ( noobs as we lovingly call them ) get confused and keep asking numerous times about which is the best ROM? And also bit*h about some ROM sometimes.
So, my message to you devs is that, if you are spending time on developing, why not make something really unique?
I am not forcing you to, but if all the work you do amounts to nothing since there is already an identical ROM out there, why not do something that you'll be remembered for?
I know this maybe too much for a non-developer guy like me to say or talk about, but I have my reasons to not have enough time to not develop. This lack of time I have made me feel, why do you guys spend time on something that's already been done?
Eg: our great korm first brought us AOKP ICS/ JB and now PAC.
emann is still trying hard to make GB super awesome.
ZduneX25 and Maxworks who take care of MIUI for neos
Sdk who gave us MIUI JB.
ThilinaC who's ROM is stock based, but he took a whole different approach for Pureness and made it less like Sony and more like his own, awesome themed ROM.
And yeah Zdune and mike for proving that pure AOSP doesn't suck. It is still the smoothest ICS has ever been on my phone. Ever.
And there are many more like these guys. Sorry if I didn't include your name coz I didn't recall it right now.
All I want to say is do something like they have done guys.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."

Yeahs, i was thinking on this... Why dont they do like in x8 forums... Cm9 for locked bootloader
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Long live se tweaked v1 the base of most stock roms but true in what op says
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DeathCzar said:
Firstly,
Don't take this the wrong way. Read it completely first and then express your opinions please.
No offense to all you awesome devs who spend time on making ROMS and try to give us your best. I appreciate every bit of your work.
Now back on Topic.
In the last 2-3 months or so, I have started to feel that there are too many stock based ROMS that have been appearing.
And honestly speaking, they all are siblings, i.e. Almost identical with a very minute difference in their looks or very minor cosmetic changes.
So my point is, This vast selection makes people who are new here ( noobs as we lovingly call them ) get confused and keep asking numerous times about which is the best ROM? And also bit*h about some ROM sometimes.
So, my message to you devs is that, if you are spending time on developing, why not make something really unique?
I am not forcing you to, but if all the work you do amounts to nothing since there is already an identical ROM out there, why not do something that you'll be remembered for?
I know this maybe too much for a non-developer guy like me to say or talk about, but I have my reasons to not have enough time to not develop. This lack of time I have made me feel, why do you guys spend time on something that's already been done?
Eg: our great korm first brought us AOKP ICS/ JB and now PAC.
emann is still trying hard to make GB super awesome.
ZduneX25 and Maxworks who take care of MIUI for neos
Sdk who gave us MIUI JB.
ThilinaC who's ROM is stock based, but he took a whole different approach for Pureness and made it less like Sony and more like his own, awesome themed ROM.
And yeah Zdune and mike for proving that pure AOSP doesn't suck. It is still the smoothest ICS has ever been on my phone. Ever.
And there are many more like these guys. Sorry if I didn't include your name coz I didn't recall it right now.
All I want to say is do something like they have done guys.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
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dats what I was also thinking.. bcz I'm not a dev didn't dare to speak.. no offence to anyone... ∩__∩

Ok agreed with this, but bring us some more for locked bootloaders also then and not only for unlocked bootloaders what the must devs do, all the roms what i see here requires also stock kernel, so whats the point, no need to unlock your bootloader for a special rom.
Very simple into my eyes to understanding
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It is possible. Motorola doesn't allow you to unlock your bl. So all recent Motorola phones have all kinds of roms working on locked BL.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."

Totally agree with you DeathCzar!
No offence to any dev....
But it's a thing I've noticed as well....
Some minor changes between them! And all claim the same
Not that I'm criticizing anyone's work ... Just stating the obvious...
Peace
Let's keep this friendly and On topic
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That's something I've been thinking for a while.
When I first joined xda.
There were some stock based roms but all of them were different in their own way.
But now all of them have the same stuff, same kind of performance,etc.
No offense to anyone
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Yep same here no offence to devs but al releases seem to have same performance, same ui etc I would also like to see a unique rom! With better performance!
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mitchellreece said:
Yep same here no offence to devs but al releases seem to have same performance, same ui etc I would also like to see a unique rom! With better performance!
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There is just one ROM like that UHD.
It's hands down the best ROM out there.
I really like the ideology of jader.
He gives us a stripped down performance driven ROM allowing users to customize the way we want.
Just look at the kind of testing he's doing with the new version.
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adity said:
There is just one ROM like that UHD.
It's hands down the best ROM out there.
I really like the ideology of jader.
He gives us a stripped down performance driven ROM allowing users to customize the way we want.
Just look at the kind of testing he's doing with the new version.
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Couldnt agree more!
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No offence,but even that Rom looks like many other Roms out here!
Nothing unusual, I feel!
Well,this is my opinion so you may very well have your opinion /say!
No offence
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Ghostfreak NB said:
No offence,but even that Rom looks like many other Roms out here!
Nothing unusual, I feel!
Well,this is my opinion so you may very well have your opinion /say!
No offence
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No offence ghost but we said it had best strip down performance! Not that it looks different!
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mitchellreece said:
No offence ghost but we said it had best strip down performance! Not that it looks different!
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You didn't get me mate,this thread topic is about making a different Rom so I firmly deny that uhd has any unusual looks n
Almost all stock Rom gives stable performance,
What's challenging is porting a different ui like that of HTC or Sammy n making it usable on our device
Again you may very well deny but this is my feel
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Ghostfreak NB said:
You didn't get me mate,this thread topic is about making a different Rom so I firmly deny that uhd has any unusual looks n
Almost all stock Rom gives stable performance,
What's challenging is porting a different ui like that of HTC or Sammy n making it usable on our device
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Agreed...HTC yes...Sammy..hell no!!!
sammy's ui has functionality but looks comical...

LoneWanderer said:
Agreed...HTC yes...Sammy..hell no!!!
sammy's ui has functionality but looks comical...
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That was just an example....Btw Touchwiz UI is one of the most functionality rich UI barring the looks
Sense is surely incredible ........especially when you run it on a Non-HTC device ,You just get high :lol:
To sum it up :
Anything apart from monotonous Sony looks maybe
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Ghostfreak NB said:
That was just an example....
Anything apart from Sony maybe
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True we don't get to see ROMs which are totally different but considering how old our devices are, we got flyme, joy, mokee, lewa, sense. There is even a new team I don't remember name of.
But I totally understand your point .
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I don't see any harm in releasing two sense based Rom if one can release zillions of Sony ui based Roms ,right?
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Well, right!!!
But only when the new one would be a faster release and would be a stable release, otherwise Zack is doing well. I got him PM in the morning, that there's a release in the next week.

Good for you mate!
I see you are determined to get some great Rom for your otherwise love lost Neo L
Commendable job on that :thumbup:
Now you will've cm 10,flyme, sense wow!
Btw
Talk about a Rom and now Mike just provided us one Aosp 4.1.2 stable for Neo V aka haida!
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Related

Photon and MIUI

As a forum member of MIUI for the HTC Evo, I just received a e-mail that states a member of the MIUI development team has received a Photon to try and port the MIUI Rom to it. In my personal opinion, this is effin awesome. Anyone that has used MIUI, it is a very impressive Rom, and to know that one day it will be on the Motorola Photon...big things will be happening!!!
Cool, if he can get a bootable kernel, then we can have CM7 as well!
the12nv said:
As a forum member of MIUI for the HTC Evo, I just received a e-mail that states a member of the MIUI development team has received a Photon to try and port the MIUI Rom to it. In my personal opinion, this is effin awesome. Anyone that has used MIUI, it is a very impressive Rom, and to know that one day it will be on the Motorola Photon...big things will be happening!!!
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That's great
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This is amazing news! Slowly but surely, our diamond-in-the-rough phone is going places! Kernel is getting close, just a little more time.
MIUI is great
Ya really love Miui although never had a phone with fully functional Miui.
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warttack is teh dev who got it, but he seems to be banned from miui.us.. not sure on what the story is on all that, regardless i know id certainly love some help from him
If miui cames with 4G that will be great other wise CM is fantastic rom
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I do hope things work out. One of the things that I really likes about both the MIUI and CM7 was the theme launcher. being able to change the theme of your phone in a matter or seconds and not have to flash is awesome. Even though I am going through some serious flashing withdraw, I must say, the Photon is a really quick, efficient, and over all great phone fresh out the box. Can it really get any better??? (I'msure it will)
the12nv said:
I do hope things work out. One of the things that I really likes about both the MIUI and CM7 was the theme launcher. being able to change the theme of your phone in a matter or seconds and not have to flash is awesome. Even though I am going through some serious flashing withdraw, I must say, the Photon is a really quick, efficient, and over all great phone fresh out the box. Can it really get any better??? (I'msure it will)
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+1
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Miui cures the flashing blues.
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I would definitely unlock my phone for miui
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I just got the photon and i rooted but im disappointed from the lack of attention its getting from devs because when i go to the sgs2 forum and they have a bunch of roms plus, im like wow wtf is going on im coming from the evo which we all no got a lot of love but idk miui would be great but so would anything else besides 1 rom,,,just my 2 cents
killhr said:
I just got the photon and i rooted but im disappointed from the lack of attention its getting from devs because when i go to the sgs2 forum and they have a bunch of roms plus, im like wow wtf is going on im coming from the evo which we all no got a lot of love but idk miui would be great but so would anything else besides 1 rom,,,just my 2 cents
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hater
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ill tell you what, ill make 7 new accounts and post themed versions of the roms we have now.. then everyone can quit crying about the lack of development..
sgs2 forums they have a BUNCH of stock based roms
that boild down to this.. deodex'd, zipaligned... and bloat removed.. atda! lol the evo please how many cm7 based roms do they they still have popping up every day?
^.^ amen, I've flashed three great roms, three great themes and all kinda tweaks on my photon in less than two months time.
Thanks photon devs.....
And now we have this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18260686
well said...when I was on the Evo forum there were five variations of the same style Rom with small differences...not dissing the devs at all...they all did great work....it really narrowed down to 3 types...CM7,MIUI, or a sense style Rom...MIUI was my favorite...I believe the Photon is to dope of a phone to be ignored... I'm positive Roms will be created and the haters will just be haters...
shabbypenguin said:
ill tell you what, ill make 7 new accounts and post themed versions of the roms we have now.. then everyone can quit crying about the lack of development..
sgs2 forums they have a BUNCH of stock based roms
that boild down to this.. deodex'd, zipaligned... and bloat removed.. atda! lol the evo please how many cm7 based roms do they they still have popping up every day?
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This is proof that things are moving in the right direction....keep up the good work people...i appreciate all that you devs do...your the dealer to my flashing addiction....
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And now we have this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18260686
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lol how am i hating I HAVE THE PHOTON i just didnt see as much as the the others which i want so to the others where are the roms and tweaks im not crying just didnt see lol so sensitive

CM7 development?

I understand that ICS roms will come in the future after the kernel has been leaked or recreated and/or there is a full stock ICS leak, but isnt it possible to create a CM7 rom with the materials we have available? I just wanted to know if CM7 development is a possibility right now. Thanks
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Yea i ask the same thing cm7 would be awesome too
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+1 at least give us a some incentive
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... what's the point of wasting time developing something obsolete in a matter of weeks?
Same reason why there is 15 million different linux distros. Not everyone cares about ics. Hype my friend.. The word hype its just not there for everyone.
themisfit said:
Same reason why there is 15 million different linux distros. Not everyone cares about ics. Hype my friend.. The word hype its just not there for everyone.
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those different distros isn't managed by 1 group either. apples and oranges.
Cm7 looking dated now .... cm9... now that's where the sweet stuff is
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I know CM9 is coming SOON but I'm talking about right now. CM7 roms would be infinitely more feasible than debloated edited themed stock roms. Not to say the devs aren't doing an amazing job
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kaishi00 said:
... what's the point of wasting time developing something obsolete in a matter of weeks?
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How is cm7 obsolete? Or dated for that matter, so how obsolete is stock gingerbread?? I think cm7 is a great rom, with endless ways of customizing, with tons of themes already in the market for free, is just like saying what's the point of all these Roms in our note android development forum because there all based on stock gingerbread . I think cm7 would be a great addition for those that think ginger is it and don't care much for an ics update, but that's my opinion. I wish I had the time and knowledge with a linux environment to develop cm7 for the note.
RoloRacer on Galaxy Note!
I highly urge we talk to a developer and see if they are interested in getting this started. Unfortunately I have no experience programming or doing rom creation otherwise I would have started asap loving the devs we got here though
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Anyone agree???
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kaishi00 said:
... what's the point of wasting time developing something obsolete in a matter of weeks?
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Damn look at the noobs
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I'm a fan of cm7 and would definitely love to see it but don't think we will see a official one from cyanogenmod. Kang is most likely.
Our device is still very new.
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I would LOVE to see cm7 for our Notes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Options...you don't want it don't flash it.
Would live to see Cm7 on the note would be awesome
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Rocket42 said:
I would LOVE to see cm7 for our Notes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Options...you don't want it don't flash it.
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The number of Developers are decreasing :'( Will Luphorhirp ever return?

Guys... the development of our phones is coming to an end... we have less and less developers everyday and I don't think I'm good enough to develop anything decent my self.... we need to find people to develop and fast if the future of our phones is to be a bright one....
I agree with you... but I think maybe is time to other people (including us), learn some more and keep doing a nice job. Not as great as some developers I guess, but someone has to do the work. I know, its hard, but what we can do if not is change our phones
Awesome devs, don't leave us hehe.
i agree too. i am learning c++ as i want to compile a ics kernel for our ics roms.
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Yeah, I'm currently attempting to build a rom. (it boots and works almost as well as hephappy's last build) I'm trying to hack omx in. It's very difficult :/ and I haven't had much luck so far.
allenwalker1998 said:
i agree too. i am learning c++ as i want to compile a ics kernel for our ics roms.
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Learning C++ doesn't help you to build kernel.... learn C
thachtunganh said:
Learning C++ doesn't help you to build kernel.... learn C
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i am learning both
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learning programming languages is only needed to understand syntax..rest..code is all of understanding..wat it does
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gymfreak7855 said:
Yeah, I'm currently attempting to build a rom. (it boots and works almost as well as hephappy's last build) I'm trying to hack omx in. It's very difficult :/ and I haven't had much luck so far.
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you cant hack omx..we dont have api's for msm7x227..we need to find a workaround
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williamcharles said:
you cant hack omx..
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I'm feeling like one more week waiting answer from Qualcomm and I will try to do that too >_<
allenwalker1998 said:
i am learning both
Sent by a 14-year old kid learning kernel compiling
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Actually i don't learn anything right now... i just know some C....
This is just my two cents worth:
Take a look at the Android Development section. There are many budding developers with their themed roms oh, I mean heavily tweaked and modded roms out there. I'm not sure about the rest of you but I feel that this is simply wonderful. Its a good opportunity for beginners to learn more and serve the online community here. I'm sure in 5/10 years time down the road, some of us will look back and say "Hey the Optimus One was the Android phone that got me so interested into developing and look at much I've learned" or "It was my Optimus One phone that made me love Android".
So alright, our phone isn't considered a legacy device (yet, of course hopefully never) so hang on in there I love my O1!
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Well...I think the developers are enough to build an stable version of ics.For GB,we already have Oxygen which is amazing..or neko's rom if you like some changed graphics.If we'll have stable ICS...I don't think we can request something else from them.Even like this,I'm happy with Oxygen.
The thing is that o1 gets older and older,and resources are very limited.600 mhz...just saying.
The developers will upgrade to better phones.
This phone...I think it was it the top when it comes to developrs support.It was a cheap phone with good performances at that time.Now games,versions of android,apps,all request more resources and in time this phone won't be able to offer enough.
Probably this phone was a challenge for most of developers.We wouldn't have so many roms if this would have...a 1.4 ghz / dual core processor and this stuff.
Don't worry my friends,in time we'll upgrade our phones too.And for most of us,this phone was "first love" ...and you know what they say,you will never forget your "first love"
Joel Chan said:
This is just my two cents worth:
Take a look at the Android Development section. There are many budding developers with their themed roms oh, I mean heavily tweaked and modded roms out there. I'm not sure about the rest of you but I feel that this is simply wonderful. Its a good opportunity for beginners to learn more and serve the online community here. I'm sure in 5/10 years time down the road, some of us will look back and say "Hey the Optimus One was the Android phone that got me so interested into developing and look at much I've learned" or "It was my Optimus One phone that made me love Android".
So alright, our phone isn't considered a legacy device (yet, of course hopefully never) so hang on in there I love my O1!
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> very well said.. great words from you.. ur absolutely right.
o1
you realize that this phone is 2 years old and most developers have switched to nexus devices.
you realize this will never have an official update ever again
you realize this has an armv6 processor
you realize that we have reached a "glass ceiling" for now maybe quallcomm will be nice or someone comes up with a workaround or we can get a leak
you realize that this phone has no official flash support
you realize that we have an HVGA display
thats why so many devs are leaving and or moving to another phone IE. Nexus
so many devs went to the nexus, franco, milk, bok, dax\
im new here
lupohirp_jr said:
you realize that this phone is 2 years old and most developers have switched to nexus devices.
you realize this will never have an official update ever again
you realize this has an armv6 processor
you realize that we have reached a "glass ceiling" for now maybe quallcomm will be nice or someone comes up with a workaround or we can get a leak
you realize that this phone has no official flash support
you realize that we have an HVGA display
thats why so many devs are leaving and or moving to another phone IE. Nexus
so many devs went to the nexus, franco, milk, bok, dax\
im new here
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DafuQ?
Whats with your Username??
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RockR172 said:
DafuQ?
Whats with your Username??
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haha... lupo junior lol
Joel Chan said:
This is just my two cents worth:
Bla, bla, bla...
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That isn't development^^
I'd really like to change my Optimus One for a better phone but I really can't spend lot of money for a phone. Android 4 is beautiful but set a LOT of devices apart. Now Android looks like something for the few. I still have to understand what should I do with a dual/quad core phone: my Optimus One is old, armv6, 600mhz but I can still use it with Lightbox, Twitter, FB, G+, gstrings, Maps, Endomondo and a lot of apps with no much lags (and I didn't overlock). I hope Tizen or especially Boot 2 Gecko will be good enough to revive not-so-incredibly-old phones like ours. Android is fantastic but it's going too fast.
this phone is 2 years old
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Lolz, 2 years is such a lotta time My previous phone was 6 years old till I changed it. I bought my O1 last autumn. 6 months is really looong, so I think I gotta buy newer one
I switched to HTC one v but unfortunately there's nothing in development section like O1 has I luv my O1 I'll never forget my first Android phone which was our beloved O1.....
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Non Fully Working Roms

I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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I'm not sure you understand the point of xda
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Everyone has different preference upon the choice of ROM. Some people like you prefer stability, other people prefer using new features & improvements and walk around and showing off - "hey I got Android 4.3 on my phone".
So let's not make a big deal about it. We are just different kinds of people.
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Ben36 said:
I'm not sure you understand the point of xda
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I'm not sure you understood the point of my topic
yiumanchi said:
Everyone has different preference upon the choice of ROM. Some people like you prefer stability, other people prefer using new features & improvements and walk around and showing off - "hey I got Android 4.3 on my phone".
So let's not make a big deal about it. We are just different kinds of people.
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Please show me 1 user that doesn't like stability in his rom
The only one making a big deal about it, actually is you
And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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matood said:
And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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We call those people beta testers, you're missing the point of my topic.
I'm talking about people who want stable roms but keep choosing buggy and under development roms and after that keep complaining to the devs about the bugs.
Understand now? Or do you need a picture?
Please dont speak on behalf people here. People can speak for themselves. You call them beta testers i call them users. Im not testing anything, im just using it. And im always excited when new version coming in. You are missing point of this forum. Its about developing and this process is endless. And non of the roms is really stable, there is always a situation when something happen and new fix or version is released.
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matood said:
Please dont speak on behalf people here. People can speak for themselves. You call them beta testers i call them users. Im not testing anything, im just using it. And im always excited when new version coming in. You are missing point of this forum. Its about developing and this process is endless. And non of the roms is really stable, there is always a situation when something happen and new fix or version is released.
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Forget it, you don't get it.
matood said:
And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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Agree "Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now"
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hackerpower said:
I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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Bro, xda is meant for experiments. D
Everyone has his own fav ROM. Mine is stock.
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Forget it, you don't get it.
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If most of the people didn't get you, might be because you were not explaining well.
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Hey man. Let me mention you something. This thread is non-sense, too. They said development and it is development and you are using the developments of android devices. Android is open-source so everybody can modify it. If you don't like it, then don't use it. XDA didn't promise you to make your phone looks good. It is just developments from the amdroid/linux developers and they didn't promise you to get a full working ROM. They already mention the bugs. Some prefer CM Roms instead stock ROM. Some likes to see new adventures. So, if you're not part of this, you can leave just by now. This thread is useless and also disrespectful to some developers. Development isn't "The ROM to make you satisfy". So be it.
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@op
I think you didn't get the point of life and diversity of our world. You know, i don't like cucumbers and think they are awful. Do you like them? If you do, then, following your way of thinking, i should ask, why some people do like cucumbers, if they are awful in my view? They must be crazy and insane!
In fact, no, they are not insane. They are just not the same as me and they prefer different things. And it's beautiful, because if all people were the same, life would be too boring.
So, you need to understand that people are different and stop expecting everyone to feel the same as you. Feel free to use only stable ROMs with all features enabled, but don't accuse users who love flashing new unstable versions of being unwise just because they aren't like you.
Cheers
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i suppose they want to help in the developing process or something?
well i, myself, for instance, crave to take my phone to the next level, leaving the not-so-smooth ROMand trying the various ROMs created by our developer, and i like those buttery smoothness.
the point, for me, is to take the chance in buttery smooth and a lot of free RAM, coz my phone's free ram using the original ROM is quite saddening..
hackerpower said:
I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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@Ben36 is right
Kindly have a look at these threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
Keep calm :highfive:
@hackerpower - hey bro howz u .. ?
i was very active in this forum as drsanket_xperia_u .. i remember when u were new here..
okay getting straight to point..
roms cannot be fully working unless experimental builds are released and logcats are provided by us.. on the basis of this logcat errors are rectified.. and slowly n slowly all non working hardware becomes working (not forgetting sources n developer's hardwork)
secondly sometimes bcoz of our fondness for roms we are ready to use a rom irrespective of non working hardware
i remember when jb was ported to xu and camera was non functional ..i used that ported rom for over a week without a camera bcoz i loved jb on my xu ..
i hope u got the point..
From what I have seen and tried for Xperia p, there are no stable roms, Sony isn't even able to make a stable build, this phone sucks and I can't wait to get a new one.
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LOL everyone has there reasons
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This is more a discussion thread and this is going nowhere
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This is more a discussion thread and this is going nowhere
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agree
Tapatalk sig: I believe in god but I also believe in Metal. Does that makes sense? I hope so.
It's in the general forum.. You know where people can talk about things in general... You're such a forum nazi always getting your panties in a bunch over nothing...
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Looking for an excellent rom!!!

Hey guys i got this phone yesterday and it's unlocked i just did the root on the device, but i want to be clear and sure about what to flash on my device, so im looking for a stable, fast, all around great rom, so if you guys can help me with that!
Go to development thread
2$HAYNE
daworship said:
Hey guys i got this phone yesterday and it's unlocked i just did the root on the device, but i want to be clear and sure about what to flash on my device, so im looking for a stable, fast, all around great rom, so if you guys can help me with that!
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with your experience on XDA you should know, what is going to be an excellent ROM for somebody else, may not be for you. I don't know what kind of user you are.
not sure what your last phone was, but we have quite a bit of variety here.
here is my rundown and I am sure you know basics
ICS 4.0.4...........super stable by know beings update official updates have gone beyond
JB 4.1.2...........Touchwiz based pretty darn close to stock (debloated) and DAMN stable. only a couple out there but rock solid. some theming and mods out there for personal touches. not many updates needed
JB 4.2..............these would be AOSP, AOKP and CM based ROMS. lots of customizing. basically 3 ROM's in 1. with bells and whistles are some shortcomings. random reboots being the biggest flaw. many have success using alternate KERNALS built in conjunction with certain ROM's, giving options for OCing and UVing. different tweaks here and there can better chances for success. lots of updates on these.
JB 4.3..............still early in the game. smooth but working out a lot of kinks right now. its coming along
just an honest everyday user here giving an honest opinion m my experience here. folks are great funny and very helpful and a LOT of talent in development here.
good luck my friend. I am sure others will be along to correct me on SOMETHNG
Lol I thanked I twice..im a tmo user n our variety on roms is far less than i717 IM on skeleton key ICS rom and so far it's awesome...no reboots debloated n compatible with i717...just gotta flash a tmo modem but can be used for i717...give it a try new guy it's in the development thread...
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angelf82 said:
Lol I thanked I twice..im a tmo user n our variety on roms is far less than i717 IM on skeleton key ICS rom and so far it's awesome...no reboots debloated n compatible with i717...just gotta flash a tmo modem but can be used for i717...give it a try new guy it's in the development thread...
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New guy lol did you look at his profile compared to yours .... Your the new guy ha:beer:
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Oops I didn't lol from the way he worded that he had just gotten the i717 I thought he was new lol if ire talking about daworship guy then yeah..I am pretty new to XDA community but I love reading all u guys threads cus some are funny and others are very helpful...we are all like a family cus we all help each others out to solve issues but daworship has being here longer then me n with all do respect I don't think he should ask a question like that but we support and answer politely...I do think he should try skeleton key but it's confusing cus it's in the i717 thread but yet it's for tmo users...unless im wrong...correct me if I am lol :beer:
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angelf82 said:
Oops I didn't lol from the way he worded that he had just gotten the i717 I thought he was new lol if ire talking about daworship guy then yeah..I am pretty new to XDA community but I love reading all u guys threads cus some are funny and others are very helpful...we are all like a family cus we all help each others out to solve issues but daworship has being here longer then me n with all do respect I don't think he should ask a question like that but we support and answer politely...I do think he should try skeleton key but it's confusing cus it's in the i717 thread but yet it's for tmo users...unless im wrong...correct me if I am lol :beer:
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Skeleton key is in the i717 thread because there are a bunch of us that use the i717 (AT&T version) and unlock it and use a Tmobile sim/service. It works great. So, he made that ROM for us.
Jellybean Sandwich!!
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I dunno..."great" is different for everyone.
Some people love Padawan, Blackstar....
Others love 4.2 ROM's, or ICS rom's
It depends what you want in a ROM. I'm using Skeleton Key, because I like ICS a lot. It works just fine for my needs. It is an excellent ROM, as are all the others. It just like I said...depends what YOU want.
MrPandroid said:
I dunno..."great" is different for everyone.
Some people love Padawan, Blackstar....
Others love 4.2 ROM's, or ICS rom's
It depends what you want in a ROM. I'm using Skeleton Key, because I like ICS a lot. It works just fine for my needs. It is an excellent ROM, as are all the others. It just like I said...depends what YOU want.
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I'm in love with PACMan ROM. Padawan would get more love if it wasn't so laggy on my Note
TalRazMob said:
I'm in love with PACMan ROM. Padawan would get more love if it wasn't so laggy on my Note
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you obviously have not read p. 355- 378 in thread then. which deals with the ONLY issue folks have had with that ROM. with those settings, my phone runs orgasmic.
always read, read, read
not my intention to be a D#@K. too many people are wanting someone else to do the work for them lately. when basically it is what they themselves do to their phone, not what somebody else does it. so why would you not want to inform yourself and understand.
good luck
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shayneflashindaily said:
"Kenny g plays softly in the background" I yell out 2shayne!!! Lol
2$HAYNE
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and I thought I was twisted
I have my moments... Which is usually every moment
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U are too damn hilarious bro! :thumbup: this how I see u when ure posting something using this face <--- like a hyper face lol
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Yezzir!
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captemo said:
you obviously have not read p. 355- 378 in thread then. which deals with the ONLY issue folks have had with that ROM. with those settings, my phone runs orgasmic.
always read, read, read
not my intention to be a D#@K. too many people are wanting someone else to do the work for them lately. when basically it is what they themselves do to their phone, not what somebody else does it. so why would you not want to inform yourself and understand.
good luck
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Checking this out now
Update: thought you we're directing me towards how to speed up padawan lol
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