I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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I'm not sure you understand the point of xda
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Everyone has different preference upon the choice of ROM. Some people like you prefer stability, other people prefer using new features & improvements and walk around and showing off - "hey I got Android 4.3 on my phone".
So let's not make a big deal about it. We are just different kinds of people.
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Ben36 said:
I'm not sure you understand the point of xda
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I'm not sure you understood the point of my topic
yiumanchi said:
Everyone has different preference upon the choice of ROM. Some people like you prefer stability, other people prefer using new features & improvements and walk around and showing off - "hey I got Android 4.3 on my phone".
So let's not make a big deal about it. We are just different kinds of people.
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Please show me 1 user that doesn't like stability in his rom
The only one making a big deal about it, actually is you
And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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We call those people beta testers, you're missing the point of my topic.
I'm talking about people who want stable roms but keep choosing buggy and under development roms and after that keep complaining to the devs about the bugs.
Understand now? Or do you need a picture?
Please dont speak on behalf people here. People can speak for themselves. You call them beta testers i call them users. Im not testing anything, im just using it. And im always excited when new version coming in. You are missing point of this forum. Its about developing and this process is endless. And non of the roms is really stable, there is always a situation when something happen and new fix or version is released.
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Please dont speak on behalf people here. People can speak for themselves. You call them beta testers i call them users. Im not testing anything, im just using it. And im always excited when new version coming in. You are missing point of this forum. Its about developing and this process is endless. And non of the roms is really stable, there is always a situation when something happen and new fix or version is released.
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Forget it, you don't get it.
matood said:
And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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Agree "Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now"
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hackerpower said:
I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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Bro, xda is meant for experiments. D
Everyone has his own fav ROM. Mine is stock.
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If most of the people didn't get you, might be because you were not explaining well.
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Hey man. Let me mention you something. This thread is non-sense, too. They said development and it is development and you are using the developments of android devices. Android is open-source so everybody can modify it. If you don't like it, then don't use it. XDA didn't promise you to make your phone looks good. It is just developments from the amdroid/linux developers and they didn't promise you to get a full working ROM. They already mention the bugs. Some prefer CM Roms instead stock ROM. Some likes to see new adventures. So, if you're not part of this, you can leave just by now. This thread is useless and also disrespectful to some developers. Development isn't "The ROM to make you satisfy". So be it.
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@op
I think you didn't get the point of life and diversity of our world. You know, i don't like cucumbers and think they are awful. Do you like them? If you do, then, following your way of thinking, i should ask, why some people do like cucumbers, if they are awful in my view? They must be crazy and insane!
In fact, no, they are not insane. They are just not the same as me and they prefer different things. And it's beautiful, because if all people were the same, life would be too boring.
So, you need to understand that people are different and stop expecting everyone to feel the same as you. Feel free to use only stable ROMs with all features enabled, but don't accuse users who love flashing new unstable versions of being unwise just because they aren't like you.
Cheers
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i suppose they want to help in the developing process or something?
well i, myself, for instance, crave to take my phone to the next level, leaving the not-so-smooth ROMand trying the various ROMs created by our developer, and i like those buttery smoothness.
the point, for me, is to take the chance in buttery smooth and a lot of free RAM, coz my phone's free ram using the original ROM is quite saddening..
hackerpower said:
I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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@Ben36 is right
Kindly have a look at these threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
Keep calm :highfive:
@hackerpower - hey bro howz u .. ?
i was very active in this forum as drsanket_xperia_u .. i remember when u were new here..
okay getting straight to point..
roms cannot be fully working unless experimental builds are released and logcats are provided by us.. on the basis of this logcat errors are rectified.. and slowly n slowly all non working hardware becomes working (not forgetting sources n developer's hardwork)
secondly sometimes bcoz of our fondness for roms we are ready to use a rom irrespective of non working hardware
i remember when jb was ported to xu and camera was non functional ..i used that ported rom for over a week without a camera bcoz i loved jb on my xu ..
i hope u got the point..
From what I have seen and tried for Xperia p, there are no stable roms, Sony isn't even able to make a stable build, this phone sucks and I can't wait to get a new one.
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LOL everyone has there reasons
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agree
Tapatalk sig: I believe in god but I also believe in Metal. Does that makes sense? I hope so.
It's in the general forum.. You know where people can talk about things in general... You're such a forum nazi always getting your panties in a bunch over nothing...
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Firstly,
Don't take this the wrong way. Read it completely first and then express your opinions please.
No offense to all you awesome devs who spend time on making ROMS and try to give us your best. I appreciate every bit of your work.
Now back on Topic.
In the last 2-3 months or so, I have started to feel that there are too many stock based ROMS that have been appearing.
And honestly speaking, they all are siblings, i.e. Almost identical with a very minute difference in their looks or very minor cosmetic changes.
So my point is, This vast selection makes people who are new here ( noobs as we lovingly call them ) get confused and keep asking numerous times about which is the best ROM? And also bit*h about some ROM sometimes.
So, my message to you devs is that, if you are spending time on developing, why not make something really unique?
I am not forcing you to, but if all the work you do amounts to nothing since there is already an identical ROM out there, why not do something that you'll be remembered for?
I know this maybe too much for a non-developer guy like me to say or talk about, but I have my reasons to not have enough time to not develop. This lack of time I have made me feel, why do you guys spend time on something that's already been done?
Eg: our great korm first brought us AOKP ICS/ JB and now PAC.
emann is still trying hard to make GB super awesome.
ZduneX25 and Maxworks who take care of MIUI for neos
Sdk who gave us MIUI JB.
ThilinaC who's ROM is stock based, but he took a whole different approach for Pureness and made it less like Sony and more like his own, awesome themed ROM.
And yeah Zdune and mike for proving that pure AOSP doesn't suck. It is still the smoothest ICS has ever been on my phone. Ever.
And there are many more like these guys. Sorry if I didn't include your name coz I didn't recall it right now.
All I want to say is do something like they have done guys.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
Yeahs, i was thinking on this... Why dont they do like in x8 forums... Cm9 for locked bootloader
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Long live se tweaked v1 the base of most stock roms but true in what op says
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DeathCzar said:
Firstly,
Don't take this the wrong way. Read it completely first and then express your opinions please.
No offense to all you awesome devs who spend time on making ROMS and try to give us your best. I appreciate every bit of your work.
Now back on Topic.
In the last 2-3 months or so, I have started to feel that there are too many stock based ROMS that have been appearing.
And honestly speaking, they all are siblings, i.e. Almost identical with a very minute difference in their looks or very minor cosmetic changes.
So my point is, This vast selection makes people who are new here ( noobs as we lovingly call them ) get confused and keep asking numerous times about which is the best ROM? And also bit*h about some ROM sometimes.
So, my message to you devs is that, if you are spending time on developing, why not make something really unique?
I am not forcing you to, but if all the work you do amounts to nothing since there is already an identical ROM out there, why not do something that you'll be remembered for?
I know this maybe too much for a non-developer guy like me to say or talk about, but I have my reasons to not have enough time to not develop. This lack of time I have made me feel, why do you guys spend time on something that's already been done?
Eg: our great korm first brought us AOKP ICS/ JB and now PAC.
emann is still trying hard to make GB super awesome.
ZduneX25 and Maxworks who take care of MIUI for neos
Sdk who gave us MIUI JB.
ThilinaC who's ROM is stock based, but he took a whole different approach for Pureness and made it less like Sony and more like his own, awesome themed ROM.
And yeah Zdune and mike for proving that pure AOSP doesn't suck. It is still the smoothest ICS has ever been on my phone. Ever.
And there are many more like these guys. Sorry if I didn't include your name coz I didn't recall it right now.
All I want to say is do something like they have done guys.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
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dats what I was also thinking.. bcz I'm not a dev didn't dare to speak.. no offence to anyone... ∩__∩
Ok agreed with this, but bring us some more for locked bootloaders also then and not only for unlocked bootloaders what the must devs do, all the roms what i see here requires also stock kernel, so whats the point, no need to unlock your bootloader for a special rom.
Very simple into my eyes to understanding
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It is possible. Motorola doesn't allow you to unlock your bl. So all recent Motorola phones have all kinds of roms working on locked BL.
" Always forgive your enemy, nothing will ever annoy him more."
Totally agree with you DeathCzar!
No offence to any dev....
But it's a thing I've noticed as well....
Some minor changes between them! And all claim the same
Not that I'm criticizing anyone's work ... Just stating the obvious...
Peace
Let's keep this friendly and On topic
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That's something I've been thinking for a while.
When I first joined xda.
There were some stock based roms but all of them were different in their own way.
But now all of them have the same stuff, same kind of performance,etc.
No offense to anyone
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Yep same here no offence to devs but al releases seem to have same performance, same ui etc I would also like to see a unique rom! With better performance!
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mitchellreece said:
Yep same here no offence to devs but al releases seem to have same performance, same ui etc I would also like to see a unique rom! With better performance!
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There is just one ROM like that UHD.
It's hands down the best ROM out there.
I really like the ideology of jader.
He gives us a stripped down performance driven ROM allowing users to customize the way we want.
Just look at the kind of testing he's doing with the new version.
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There is just one ROM like that UHD.
It's hands down the best ROM out there.
I really like the ideology of jader.
He gives us a stripped down performance driven ROM allowing users to customize the way we want.
Just look at the kind of testing he's doing with the new version.
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Couldnt agree more!
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No offence,but even that Rom looks like many other Roms out here!
Nothing unusual, I feel!
Well,this is my opinion so you may very well have your opinion /say!
No offence
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No offence,but even that Rom looks like many other Roms out here!
Nothing unusual, I feel!
Well,this is my opinion so you may very well have your opinion /say!
No offence
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No offence ghost but we said it had best strip down performance! Not that it looks different!
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No offence ghost but we said it had best strip down performance! Not that it looks different!
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You didn't get me mate,this thread topic is about making a different Rom so I firmly deny that uhd has any unusual looks n
Almost all stock Rom gives stable performance,
What's challenging is porting a different ui like that of HTC or Sammy n making it usable on our device
Again you may very well deny but this is my feel
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You didn't get me mate,this thread topic is about making a different Rom so I firmly deny that uhd has any unusual looks n
Almost all stock Rom gives stable performance,
What's challenging is porting a different ui like that of HTC or Sammy n making it usable on our device
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Agreed...HTC yes...Sammy..hell no!!!
sammy's ui has functionality but looks comical...
LoneWanderer said:
Agreed...HTC yes...Sammy..hell no!!!
sammy's ui has functionality but looks comical...
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That was just an example....Btw Touchwiz UI is one of the most functionality rich UI barring the looks
Sense is surely incredible ........especially when you run it on a Non-HTC device ,You just get high :lol:
To sum it up :
Anything apart from monotonous Sony looks maybe
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That was just an example....
Anything apart from Sony maybe
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True we don't get to see ROMs which are totally different but considering how old our devices are, we got flyme, joy, mokee, lewa, sense. There is even a new team I don't remember name of.
But I totally understand your point .
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I don't see any harm in releasing two sense based Rom if one can release zillions of Sony ui based Roms ,right?
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Well, right!!!
But only when the new one would be a faster release and would be a stable release, otherwise Zack is doing well. I got him PM in the morning, that there's a release in the next week.
Good for you mate!
I see you are determined to get some great Rom for your otherwise love lost Neo L
Commendable job on that :thumbup:
Now you will've cm 10,flyme, sense wow!
Btw
Talk about a Rom and now Mike just provided us one Aosp 4.1.2 stable for Neo V aka haida!
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So it seems there is that Chinese Rom with Sense 4.1 and working 3D, this is amazing, however, it is the only one of it's type.
The fact that HTC did not release the Driver Sources made me somehow hate them and it was the reason why many bugy couldnt be fixed, many devs left.
So, this Chinese Rom is removed because it is not allowed according to the rules, but... why exactly?
Could someone please post information on this story, really, this is EXTREMELY important, it could change our 3volife
Is it because it's a Viper fix, why then don't they release the fix?
So, the simple question is:
What's the fuzz about the 3D-fix? Somehow no one knows whats going on!
I'm gonna make it as brief as possible.
We can't release it on XDA or link to it because it is considered kang. The ROM is based off of a Viper3D build and was used without permission. Now unless Team Venom gives us permission to release their ROM with working 3D here on XDA, we can't do it because then that's kanging someone else's work, and that's highly frowned upon here, and leads to heavy infractions
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I can not understand how is it possible that only one team is capable to make 3D work. Why can not someone else make it from the basis without their rom?
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I can not understand how is it possible that only one team is capable to make 3D work. Why can not someone else make it from the basis without their rom?
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I am pretty sure coolexe or anryl or mwakious could do it if they have time
Somebody could definitely do it, but it would be a very hard thing to do since HTC doesn't hand out their 3D drivers. That team who got it working guaranteed was working for weeks and weeks on end getting it working, somebody here could do it for sure, but nobody has tried yet, and its probably something that's more trouble than its worth. Even if we looked at what that team did to get it working we can't use any of that, or even copy any of that because then it would still be kanging their work. Its something we either A) need to get permission for or B) take care of ourselves, but have that be 10000x harder. Its not impossible, but it is improbable
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This is ridiculous in my opinion.
I'll probably get flamed but the whole purpose of android being open source is so anyone and everyone can contribute and make it a better experience.
I understand the HTC drivers are proprietary, but in my eyes, if you've made something better why not share it with the world...are these 'team' members making money on these fixes, are they coming out with their own proprietary phones...that's the only reason I can see to necessitate keeping these fixes to yourself...yes I applaud any ROM dev for their work (I sure as hell couldn't do what they do) but what's the point in the end? Bragging rights? Come on!
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hossman said:
This is ridiculous in my opinion.
I'll probably get flamed but the whole purpose of android being open source is so anyone and everyone can contribute and make it a better experience.
I understand the HTC drivers are proprietary, but in my eyes, if you've made something better why not share it with the world...are these 'team' members making money on these fixes, are they coming out with their own proprietary phones...that's the only reason I can see to necessitate keeping these fixes to yourself...yes I applaud any ROM dev for their work (I sure as hell couldn't do what they do) but what's the point in the end? Bragging rights? Come on!
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Amen to that
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kajoshin201095 said:
So it seems there is that Chinese Rom with Sense 4.1 and working 3D, this is amazing, however, it is the only one of it's type.
The fact that HTC did not release the Driver Sources made me somehow hate them and it was the reason why many bugy couldnt be fixed, many devs left.
So, this Chinese Rom is removed because it is not allowed according to the rules, but... why exactly?
Could someone please post information on this story, really, this is EXTREMELY important, it could change our 3volife
Is it because it's a Viper fix, why then don't they release the fix?
So, the simple question is:
What's the fuzz about the 3D-fix? Somehow no one knows whats going on!
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Android is open source, you changed is the exclusive copyright? This is not unreasonable.
If anyone need help, you can email me
The rules centered around this are not android related. It has nothing to do with open source, they're xda's rules. It makes sense why they're there (that way we don't see the same exact ROM under a different name pop up every 20 minutes, etc.). I don't like the rule either but hey, its just something we gotta live with
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I think that we could do an exception for 3D in 4.1 sense...
http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...1-0-0-full-3d-beats-audio-high-quality-3.html
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http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...1-0-0-full-3d-beats-audio-high-quality-3.html
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CDMA????
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CDMA????
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it is a german forum. So it is probably GSM. I gonna try it now. (With my GSM-device)
Gonna be quite honest, hit up that link while you can because it ain't gonna be there for long
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CDMA????
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GSM - working like a charm. Using the 2.0 version. Aroma is in Germany but pretty understandable.
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Sieht gut aus, heruntergeladen! I'll probably tear the rom apart and see about making it CDMA worthy, though I won't be able to share it once I'm done being it's Kang'ed...
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GSM - working like a charm. Using the 2.0 version. Aroma is in Germany but pretty understandable.
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Is Sense scroll lagging for you?
I'm asking this coz had no problems at all with the original chinese ROM, but after flashing this one got lags during Sense pages scrolling
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Is Sense scroll lagging for you?
I'm asking this coz had no problems at all with the original chinese ROM, but after flashing this one got lags during Sense pages scrolling
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No lags at all. What I experienced was huge battery drain. So, right now, I oam in the process of reverting back to stock ROM. Tired of all these tests. Gonna get SIII tomorrow anyway
So we have fixed 3D camera now? ICS or JB?
Don't seem to see a straight answer. Only that it is using venom tweaks without perms..?
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Lothaen said:
So we have fixed 3D camera now? ICS or JB?
Don't seem to see a straight answer. Only that it is using venom tweaks without perms..?
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Well, we do have full 3D working on a ICS Sense 4.1 ROM
Hey guys i got this phone yesterday and it's unlocked i just did the root on the device, but i want to be clear and sure about what to flash on my device, so im looking for a stable, fast, all around great rom, so if you guys can help me with that!
Go to development thread
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daworship said:
Hey guys i got this phone yesterday and it's unlocked i just did the root on the device, but i want to be clear and sure about what to flash on my device, so im looking for a stable, fast, all around great rom, so if you guys can help me with that!
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with your experience on XDA you should know, what is going to be an excellent ROM for somebody else, may not be for you. I don't know what kind of user you are.
not sure what your last phone was, but we have quite a bit of variety here.
here is my rundown and I am sure you know basics
ICS 4.0.4...........super stable by know beings update official updates have gone beyond
JB 4.1.2...........Touchwiz based pretty darn close to stock (debloated) and DAMN stable. only a couple out there but rock solid. some theming and mods out there for personal touches. not many updates needed
JB 4.2..............these would be AOSP, AOKP and CM based ROMS. lots of customizing. basically 3 ROM's in 1. with bells and whistles are some shortcomings. random reboots being the biggest flaw. many have success using alternate KERNALS built in conjunction with certain ROM's, giving options for OCing and UVing. different tweaks here and there can better chances for success. lots of updates on these.
JB 4.3..............still early in the game. smooth but working out a lot of kinks right now. its coming along
just an honest everyday user here giving an honest opinion m my experience here. folks are great funny and very helpful and a LOT of talent in development here.
good luck my friend. I am sure others will be along to correct me on SOMETHNG
Lol I thanked I twice..im a tmo user n our variety on roms is far less than i717 IM on skeleton key ICS rom and so far it's awesome...no reboots debloated n compatible with i717...just gotta flash a tmo modem but can be used for i717...give it a try new guy it's in the development thread...
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Lol I thanked I twice..im a tmo user n our variety on roms is far less than i717 IM on skeleton key ICS rom and so far it's awesome...no reboots debloated n compatible with i717...just gotta flash a tmo modem but can be used for i717...give it a try new guy it's in the development thread...
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New guy lol did you look at his profile compared to yours .... Your the new guy ha:beer:
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Oops I didn't lol from the way he worded that he had just gotten the i717 I thought he was new lol if ire talking about daworship guy then yeah..I am pretty new to XDA community but I love reading all u guys threads cus some are funny and others are very helpful...we are all like a family cus we all help each others out to solve issues but daworship has being here longer then me n with all do respect I don't think he should ask a question like that but we support and answer politely...I do think he should try skeleton key but it's confusing cus it's in the i717 thread but yet it's for tmo users...unless im wrong...correct me if I am lol :beer:
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Oops I didn't lol from the way he worded that he had just gotten the i717 I thought he was new lol if ire talking about daworship guy then yeah..I am pretty new to XDA community but I love reading all u guys threads cus some are funny and others are very helpful...we are all like a family cus we all help each others out to solve issues but daworship has being here longer then me n with all do respect I don't think he should ask a question like that but we support and answer politely...I do think he should try skeleton key but it's confusing cus it's in the i717 thread but yet it's for tmo users...unless im wrong...correct me if I am lol :beer:
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Skeleton key is in the i717 thread because there are a bunch of us that use the i717 (AT&T version) and unlock it and use a Tmobile sim/service. It works great. So, he made that ROM for us.
Jellybean Sandwich!!
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I dunno..."great" is different for everyone.
Some people love Padawan, Blackstar....
Others love 4.2 ROM's, or ICS rom's
It depends what you want in a ROM. I'm using Skeleton Key, because I like ICS a lot. It works just fine for my needs. It is an excellent ROM, as are all the others. It just like I said...depends what YOU want.
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I dunno..."great" is different for everyone.
Some people love Padawan, Blackstar....
Others love 4.2 ROM's, or ICS rom's
It depends what you want in a ROM. I'm using Skeleton Key, because I like ICS a lot. It works just fine for my needs. It is an excellent ROM, as are all the others. It just like I said...depends what YOU want.
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I'm in love with PACMan ROM. Padawan would get more love if it wasn't so laggy on my Note
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I'm in love with PACMan ROM. Padawan would get more love if it wasn't so laggy on my Note
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you obviously have not read p. 355- 378 in thread then. which deals with the ONLY issue folks have had with that ROM. with those settings, my phone runs orgasmic.
always read, read, read
not my intention to be a D#@K. too many people are wanting someone else to do the work for them lately. when basically it is what they themselves do to their phone, not what somebody else does it. so why would you not want to inform yourself and understand.
good luck
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shayneflashindaily said:
"Kenny g plays softly in the background" I yell out 2shayne!!! Lol
2$HAYNE
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and I thought I was twisted
I have my moments... Which is usually every moment
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U are too damn hilarious bro! :thumbup: this how I see u when ure posting something using this face <--- like a hyper face lol
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Yezzir!
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captemo said:
you obviously have not read p. 355- 378 in thread then. which deals with the ONLY issue folks have had with that ROM. with those settings, my phone runs orgasmic.
always read, read, read
not my intention to be a D#@K. too many people are wanting someone else to do the work for them lately. when basically it is what they themselves do to their phone, not what somebody else does it. so why would you not want to inform yourself and understand.
good luck
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Checking this out now
Update: thought you we're directing me towards how to speed up padawan lol
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ROM: Jellybean Sandwich w/ Hotcakez 1.8ghz kernel
Extras: Viper FX audio engine w/ Buzz Launcher
I will just post this here in General, i would consider this as a complain, although we are greatefull for the job that every developer does in this comunity
example from CM10.X roms around in the forum
i m just wondering, those roms are not good to use as regular rom, i see many reports of battery drain, gps not working etc, what will happen if android 4.4 comes ? the developer moves to android 4.4 and leaves again a rom unfinished ?. what is the situation of the cm10.1 is it stable or again there are many open isues? i dont want to offend anyone but what i see is that we will always have an unfinished not good functioning rom... i 100% believe that in next weeks this version will be abandoned once again (CM10.2) this is what the history shows..... sorry i have been trying to switch to a costum rom since we got the bootloader unlocked but it seems its not worth like many people do so.
Anyways those were just some thoughts, if its not apropriate just delete this thread, i m staring thinking that i spent too much energy for this device trying the roms
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I will just post this here in General, i would consider this as a complain, although we are greatefull for the job that every developer does in this comunity
example from CM10.X roms around in the forum
i m just wondering, this rom is not good to use as regular rom, i see many reports of battery drain, gps not working etc, what will happen if android 4.4 comes ? the developer moves to android 4.4 and leaves again a rom unfinished ?. what is the situation of the cm10.1 is it stable or again there are many open isues? i dont want to offend anyone but what i see is that we will always have an unfinished not good functioning rom... i 100% believe that in next weeks this version will be abandoned once again (CM10.2) this is what the history shows..... sorry i have been trying to switch to a costum rom since we got the bootloader unlocked but it seems its not worth like many people do so.
Anyways those were just some thoughts, if its not apropriate just delete this thread, i m staring thinking that i spent too much energy for this device trying the roms
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Use a custom stock rom.
yes this is what i m doing, atm :good:
I don't get the point of this thread. There are simple fixes for most ROMs. You didn't even state your device.
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then you dont read correct, it doesnt matter what device i have (lg optimus l9 p760), the point of this topic is that there is no stable costum rom and all the developers instead of creating one good version they stop and move to the next release of the android version, leaving not even one single good rom for daily use, and i m 100% that this will happen again now with the 4.4 version leaving no 4.3 stable version and the same situation was with 4.1 and 4.2 ....
Hyperion 8 crazy battery saving life!!! And super stable etc etc very less cons.
Or maybe you should do what I'm doing. Saving up money for the LTE Nexus 4. $299 is reasonable for me.
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then you dont read correct, it doesnt matter what device i have (lg optimus l9 p760), the point of this topic is that there is no stable costum rom and all the developers instead of creating one good version they stop and move to the next release of the android version, leaving not even one single good rom for daily use, and i m 100% that this will happen again now with the 4.4 version leaving no 4.3 stable version and the same situation was with 4.1 and 4.2 ....
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Wow that was all one sentence. Anyways, maybe you should try and LEARN how to develop and port a ROM, as that is what these forums are intended for. Maybe then you'd realize that it isn't easy, and it's discouraging to do it for free when selfish, grabby whiners such as yourself complain about every little issue.
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Besides, this phone's forum is dying, and we're going to have to upgrade our devices soon anyways. I'll be sure to get ahold of an UNlockable bootloader.
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Ilxaot said:
Wow that was all one sentence....
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you still dont get the point and i still dont know why i answer you.:cyclops:
LaDY Vengeance said:
Or maybe you should do what I'm doing. Saving up money for the LTE Nexus 4. $299 is reasonable for me.
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this is a very good point, the last past months i started believing that the only android devices that worth to buy are the nexus line...
If developers want to jump between ROMs they can just do it and is not wrong. They are doing this for educational purposes and they are doing it for free. You can do your own ROM and stop complaining, nobody is working for you. The point of this entire site is to learn things, this is not a service.
BTW CM 10.1.3+Xposed is working flawlessly on my P778g, much better than stock. Completely stable.
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If developers want to jump between ROMs they can just do it and is not wrong. They are doing this for educational purposes and they are doing it for free. You can do your own ROM and stop complaining, nobody is working for you. The point of this entire site is to learn things, this is not a service.
BTW CM 10.1.3+Xposed is working flawlessly on my P778g, much better than stock. Completely stable.
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well the purpose of this topic wasnt about asking someone to service me or work for me, if i could do a rom i would try at least to bring it in an acceptable level so others can enjoy my work, the current situation is everyone trys and then switches back to the stock over and over again, and this will be the only case here, unless they focus on a version and dont jump arround everytime google gives a new release. Imo this would be possible only if they couldnt use a newer version...
Flash paranoid android it's the best stable rom and don't forget xda is a development site...
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I found the best solution. There is a rom called DynamiteBean. Here's how to install it.....
Place your L9 on a stick of dynamite and light the fuse.
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Lol. Sorry. My idiot brother took my phone and posted that.
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cm 10.1 and 10.2 by Anton have been my daily drivers for months. less problematic than stock.
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Eh, do stock rom (still a rom, right ) with root, Titanium for disable bloatware, and some other apps count as "stable for daily use"?
Yeah, I am on stock, with few apps (Google apps, Phone, Camera taking 1080p, an ebook reader, a gps navigator app) running smoothly and I consider that's good for my daily use (2h screen on avg, recharging every other day). Games are on my 10" tablet of course!
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Eh, do stock rom (still a rom, right ) with root, Titanium for disable bloatware, and some other apps count as "stable for daily use"?
Yeah, I am on stock, with few apps (Google apps, Phone, Camera taking 1080p, an ebook reader, a gps navigator app) running smoothly and I consider that's good for my daily use (2h screen on avg, recharging every other day). Games are on my 10" tablet of course!
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What you stated is a modified stock. If you want something else, say CM 10.1, develop for yourself. Every developer will want to work with the most recent version, 10.2. Why go back to an older version?
What you're looking for is quality like that of what Google releases Android in. You won't get that on an unofficial port to a phone. Even CM has bugs that need fixing. Don't like it? Learn to code and fix them yourself. These devs work their ass off for people such as I who do not have their skill set, and you should be grateful!
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What you stated is a modified stock. If you want something else, say CM 10.1, develop for yourself. Every developer will want to work with the most recent version, 10.2. Why go back to an older version?
What you're looking for is quality like that of what Google releases Android in. You won't get that on an unofficial port to a phone. Even CM has bugs that need fixing. Don't like it? Learn to code and fix them yourself. These devs work their ass off for people such as I who do not have their skill set, and you should be grateful!
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does my message looks like i disagree with what you say, NO, there is a point on my message those developers do good job but if they continue moving everytime a new release comes then we will always have an unfinished rom with serius instabilities, i dont speak about minor bugs. i m many years arround and i have tried roms in many different phones, what happens here i see it first time. anyway how can we lock this, noone is goin nowhere here.
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does my message looks like i disagree with what you say, NO, there is a point on my message those developers do good job but if they continue moving everytime a new release comes then we will always have an unfinished rom with serius instabilities, i dont speak about minor bugs. i m many years arround and i have tried roms in many different phones, what happens here i see it first time. anyway how can we lock this, noone is goin nowhere here.
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Go make your own ROM or go back to iOS. You're just complaining of WHY instead of learning HOW.
It really pisses me off that people like you think ROMs are made for them. They aren't in most cases. ROMs, a lot of the time, are made to further the knowledge of the creators/porters because they actually want to learn.
CM, PA, AOKP, etc. official releases are made for money.
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Besides, look at what you post. No offense, but it seems awful "babyish" a lot of the time. Kind of like you're begging for something. You've been on here since 2007, over 6 years! Imagine if you were learning this ENTIRE time. You'd be a pro!
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does my message looks like i disagree with what you say, NO, there is a point on my message those developers do good job but if they continue moving everytime a new release comes then we will always have an unfinished rom with serius instabilities, i dont speak about minor bugs. i m many years arround and i have tried roms in many different phones, what happens here i see it first time. anyway how can we lock this, noone is goin nowhere here.
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That depend on preference. Most people want something new, but there're also many that want stable rom for everyday used. You can choose rom that build on stable version such as CM 10.1.3, PAC mr1 milestone.2 or event custom stock rom out there. These roms are very stable and almost bugs free.
But if you want to play with new features and some minor bugs/known issues don't annoy you, you can flash CM 10.2 or PAC mr2.
From what I read, it's not easy to make these CM roms. You need to be pretty savvy with Ubuntu and know how to use terminal. I saw a YouTube video and it confused me after 5 minutes....lol. The devs deserve so much respect!
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MIUI V6 is released today .
http://en.miui.com/thread-34895-1-1.html
It will probably come for our phone Razr xt910/912
I though that it will be cool to start new threated for MIUI V6.
When it will be ready for our phone I'll change the threated. will add screen and my review and comment from my phone
Introducing MIUI 6: Visually Stunning, Stunningly Simple ;
Yaaay man it is nothing but good news
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It looks AWESOME. I'm a big fan of Miui.
I'll try to port for our phone, if official version won't release.
i'll wait for it
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Gonna give a try with my 2 years old XT910.. @gettinG Mi4
Great. Can't wait to install. Looks so damn good
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false hope?
Dont wanna be pesimistic but I dont see any reason to bring hope to xt910/912 users. Razr got stucked on V4 and V5 was port only. So why would they change their minds and do the full rom?
Of course I will be following this thread but I will stay pesimistic until I see first release.
I dont care of it's a port,or unofficial version. It would be nice to be stable,as for a daily driver.
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Why stuck v4 or v5?
Did nog get 4.4 miui kitkat? Yes it got. I think v6 will come. Or i will try bro
adistf said:
I dont care of it's a port,or unofficial version. It would be nice to be stable,as for a daily driver.
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Agree.
anticor248 said:
Why stuck v4 or v5?
Did nog get 4.4 miui kitkat? Yes it got. I think v6 will come. Or i will try bro
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As far as I understood it before when they did not release official V5 (just port) - it was because there was not KK rom from Motorola. Only JB. Now there is not Android L from Motorola and developers just cannot rely on xda building their Android L versions and provide them to miui developers. That is what I wanted to say and why I think it is very long run to make it fully functional.
Anyhow, I have my fingers crossed and you have my full support. I will surely be among the first ones to try it
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Agree.
As far as I understood it before when they did not release official V5 (just port) - it was because there was not KK rom from Motorola. Only JB. Now there is not Android L from Motorola and developers just cannot rely on xda building their Android L versions and provide them to miui developers. That is what I wanted to say and why I think it is very long run to make it fully functional.
Anyhow, I have my fingers crossed and you have my full support. I will surely be among the first ones to try it
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Of course it will not be fully stable
But I believe that CM android L will come for xt910/912
anticor248 said:
Of course it will not be fully stable
But I believe that CM android L will come for xt910/912
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If will comes for Galaxy Nexus,even ported,our razer's will get it too. Among with all omap4 phones. Still our phone has decent specs.
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More than that. Our phone (Razr) could work perfect with Kitkat or L even. The lack of support that Moto gives us is kinda sad, but phone wise it is still a good phone. Have it since the release and still works perfect, now with Miui V5 and Axxion in dual boot.
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More than that. Our phone (Razr) could work perfect with Kitkat or L even. The lack of support that Moto gives us is kinda sad, but phone wise it is still a good phone. Have it since the release and still works perfect, now with Miui V5 and Axxion in dual boot.
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Yep. it will work perfect. I am too using MIUI V5
I've been reading forums about MIUIv6. I'm surprised. Too much negative criticism. System is too easy. Many useful features missing. What the hell is this? What's the point? Re-development. Instead of development. What is the matter?
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JulianJenner said:
I've been reading forums about MIUIv6. I'm surprised. Too much negative criticism. System is too easy. Many useful features missing. What the hell is this? What's the point? Re-development. Instead of development. What is the matter?
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JulianJenner said:
I've been reading forums about MIUIv6. I'm surprised. Too much negative criticism. System is too easy. Many useful features missing. What the hell is this? What's the point? Re-development. Instead of development. What is the matter?
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Yea. We will se what is going on. On prewiew rom is cool but l have not used it yet
would be pretty cool to have V6 on our beloved Razr
This thread is nothing more than a placeholder, which is not allowed on XDA.
Also, this thread has nothing to do with development so should not have been created in the Development forum.
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