I will just post this here in General, i would consider this as a complain, although we are greatefull for the job that every developer does in this comunity
example from CM10.X roms around in the forum
i m just wondering, those roms are not good to use as regular rom, i see many reports of battery drain, gps not working etc, what will happen if android 4.4 comes ? the developer moves to android 4.4 and leaves again a rom unfinished ?. what is the situation of the cm10.1 is it stable or again there are many open isues? i dont want to offend anyone but what i see is that we will always have an unfinished not good functioning rom... i 100% believe that in next weeks this version will be abandoned once again (CM10.2) this is what the history shows..... sorry i have been trying to switch to a costum rom since we got the bootloader unlocked but it seems its not worth like many people do so.
Anyways those were just some thoughts, if its not apropriate just delete this thread, i m staring thinking that i spent too much energy for this device trying the roms
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I will just post this here in General, i would consider this as a complain, although we are greatefull for the job that every developer does in this comunity
example from CM10.X roms around in the forum
i m just wondering, this rom is not good to use as regular rom, i see many reports of battery drain, gps not working etc, what will happen if android 4.4 comes ? the developer moves to android 4.4 and leaves again a rom unfinished ?. what is the situation of the cm10.1 is it stable or again there are many open isues? i dont want to offend anyone but what i see is that we will always have an unfinished not good functioning rom... i 100% believe that in next weeks this version will be abandoned once again (CM10.2) this is what the history shows..... sorry i have been trying to switch to a costum rom since we got the bootloader unlocked but it seems its not worth like many people do so.
Anyways those were just some thoughts, if its not apropriate just delete this thread, i m staring thinking that i spent too much energy for this device trying the roms
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Use a custom stock rom.
yes this is what i m doing, atm :good:
I don't get the point of this thread. There are simple fixes for most ROMs. You didn't even state your device.
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then you dont read correct, it doesnt matter what device i have (lg optimus l9 p760), the point of this topic is that there is no stable costum rom and all the developers instead of creating one good version they stop and move to the next release of the android version, leaving not even one single good rom for daily use, and i m 100% that this will happen again now with the 4.4 version leaving no 4.3 stable version and the same situation was with 4.1 and 4.2 ....
Hyperion 8 crazy battery saving life!!! And super stable etc etc very less cons.
Or maybe you should do what I'm doing. Saving up money for the LTE Nexus 4. $299 is reasonable for me.
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then you dont read correct, it doesnt matter what device i have (lg optimus l9 p760), the point of this topic is that there is no stable costum rom and all the developers instead of creating one good version they stop and move to the next release of the android version, leaving not even one single good rom for daily use, and i m 100% that this will happen again now with the 4.4 version leaving no 4.3 stable version and the same situation was with 4.1 and 4.2 ....
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Wow that was all one sentence. Anyways, maybe you should try and LEARN how to develop and port a ROM, as that is what these forums are intended for. Maybe then you'd realize that it isn't easy, and it's discouraging to do it for free when selfish, grabby whiners such as yourself complain about every little issue.
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Besides, this phone's forum is dying, and we're going to have to upgrade our devices soon anyways. I'll be sure to get ahold of an UNlockable bootloader.
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Ilxaot said:
Wow that was all one sentence....
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you still dont get the point and i still dont know why i answer you.:cyclops:
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Or maybe you should do what I'm doing. Saving up money for the LTE Nexus 4. $299 is reasonable for me.
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this is a very good point, the last past months i started believing that the only android devices that worth to buy are the nexus line...
If developers want to jump between ROMs they can just do it and is not wrong. They are doing this for educational purposes and they are doing it for free. You can do your own ROM and stop complaining, nobody is working for you. The point of this entire site is to learn things, this is not a service.
BTW CM 10.1.3+Xposed is working flawlessly on my P778g, much better than stock. Completely stable.
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If developers want to jump between ROMs they can just do it and is not wrong. They are doing this for educational purposes and they are doing it for free. You can do your own ROM and stop complaining, nobody is working for you. The point of this entire site is to learn things, this is not a service.
BTW CM 10.1.3+Xposed is working flawlessly on my P778g, much better than stock. Completely stable.
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well the purpose of this topic wasnt about asking someone to service me or work for me, if i could do a rom i would try at least to bring it in an acceptable level so others can enjoy my work, the current situation is everyone trys and then switches back to the stock over and over again, and this will be the only case here, unless they focus on a version and dont jump arround everytime google gives a new release. Imo this would be possible only if they couldnt use a newer version...
Flash paranoid android it's the best stable rom and don't forget xda is a development site...
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I found the best solution. There is a rom called DynamiteBean. Here's how to install it.....
Place your L9 on a stick of dynamite and light the fuse.
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Lol. Sorry. My idiot brother took my phone and posted that.
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cm 10.1 and 10.2 by Anton have been my daily drivers for months. less problematic than stock.
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Eh, do stock rom (still a rom, right ) with root, Titanium for disable bloatware, and some other apps count as "stable for daily use"?
Yeah, I am on stock, with few apps (Google apps, Phone, Camera taking 1080p, an ebook reader, a gps navigator app) running smoothly and I consider that's good for my daily use (2h screen on avg, recharging every other day). Games are on my 10" tablet of course!
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Eh, do stock rom (still a rom, right ) with root, Titanium for disable bloatware, and some other apps count as "stable for daily use"?
Yeah, I am on stock, with few apps (Google apps, Phone, Camera taking 1080p, an ebook reader, a gps navigator app) running smoothly and I consider that's good for my daily use (2h screen on avg, recharging every other day). Games are on my 10" tablet of course!
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What you stated is a modified stock. If you want something else, say CM 10.1, develop for yourself. Every developer will want to work with the most recent version, 10.2. Why go back to an older version?
What you're looking for is quality like that of what Google releases Android in. You won't get that on an unofficial port to a phone. Even CM has bugs that need fixing. Don't like it? Learn to code and fix them yourself. These devs work their ass off for people such as I who do not have their skill set, and you should be grateful!
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What you stated is a modified stock. If you want something else, say CM 10.1, develop for yourself. Every developer will want to work with the most recent version, 10.2. Why go back to an older version?
What you're looking for is quality like that of what Google releases Android in. You won't get that on an unofficial port to a phone. Even CM has bugs that need fixing. Don't like it? Learn to code and fix them yourself. These devs work their ass off for people such as I who do not have their skill set, and you should be grateful!
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does my message looks like i disagree with what you say, NO, there is a point on my message those developers do good job but if they continue moving everytime a new release comes then we will always have an unfinished rom with serius instabilities, i dont speak about minor bugs. i m many years arround and i have tried roms in many different phones, what happens here i see it first time. anyway how can we lock this, noone is goin nowhere here.
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does my message looks like i disagree with what you say, NO, there is a point on my message those developers do good job but if they continue moving everytime a new release comes then we will always have an unfinished rom with serius instabilities, i dont speak about minor bugs. i m many years arround and i have tried roms in many different phones, what happens here i see it first time. anyway how can we lock this, noone is goin nowhere here.
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Go make your own ROM or go back to iOS. You're just complaining of WHY instead of learning HOW.
It really pisses me off that people like you think ROMs are made for them. They aren't in most cases. ROMs, a lot of the time, are made to further the knowledge of the creators/porters because they actually want to learn.
CM, PA, AOKP, etc. official releases are made for money.
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Besides, look at what you post. No offense, but it seems awful "babyish" a lot of the time. Kind of like you're begging for something. You've been on here since 2007, over 6 years! Imagine if you were learning this ENTIRE time. You'd be a pro!
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does my message looks like i disagree with what you say, NO, there is a point on my message those developers do good job but if they continue moving everytime a new release comes then we will always have an unfinished rom with serius instabilities, i dont speak about minor bugs. i m many years arround and i have tried roms in many different phones, what happens here i see it first time. anyway how can we lock this, noone is goin nowhere here.
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That depend on preference. Most people want something new, but there're also many that want stable rom for everyday used. You can choose rom that build on stable version such as CM 10.1.3, PAC mr1 milestone.2 or event custom stock rom out there. These roms are very stable and almost bugs free.
But if you want to play with new features and some minor bugs/known issues don't annoy you, you can flash CM 10.2 or PAC mr2.
From what I read, it's not easy to make these CM roms. You need to be pretty savvy with Ubuntu and know how to use terminal. I saw a YouTube video and it confused me after 5 minutes....lol. The devs deserve so much respect!
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I'm just curious as to why Verizon note 2 is lacking so much in the ROM development side of things compared to other carriers. Is it solely because we are still only 4.1.1? Just thought it would be interesting to see peoples input!
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By the way, sorry if this is in the wrong thread :/
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
Oops! Sorry for taking up space Haha. Didn't look too far into the forums for anything related.
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nunyazz said:
It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
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Only a quarter of a year ago....And even in the thread you linked there were whiny people complaining that someone else at some point had asked the question. Lighten up.
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Yet Scott just released a zip that will allow us to flash t mobile, and att roms. Give me a moment, and I will find the thread, and post it here. If you want to see a dead phone, go look at the rezound. The phone is barely a year and a half old, and it is marching into obscurity. The droid incredible has more action. These threads aren't going to produce more roms, just bad attitudes. Try playing with all of the mods we have, and theme it to whatever you want it to be. Morphology, Xposed, and a slew of others. Troll the other carriers threads, and pull mods that you want. That is all we can ask for, unless you are paying the devs a paycheck.
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HughesNet said:
. Lighten up.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Yes, really.
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jbrown30 said:
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Which have you tried? Both Jedi and Jelly Beans are both great. I am using the mod in my sig right now as I like that it keeps the samsung allshare features working.
With a combination of Jelly Beans, Widget Locker, and a theme you could pretty much get anything done you want. Pick up the odd app or mod here and there to fill in the gaps.
By the way, if you want to give 4.1.2 a go Jedi is running that. It is great if you don't need the Samsung services.
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
Most source built ROMs (AOSP) are going to have issues, whether major or minor, and are much easier to customize as you're dealing with XML and java. However, the lack of TW features keep people away from them.
With TouchWiz ROMs, you don't lose any functionality, but there is only so much that smali hacking can do. Most of this is just the time consuming nature of trying to hack a ROM via smali only. You could get everything in your favorite source built ROM if you wanted to take the time to do so. But, given that this is a for-fun thing and not a money making venture, developers aren't likely to take that amount of time if they wouldn't use it themselves.
jcollier said:
I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
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I would definitely prefer a few quality roms with great support than 27 versions of cyanogenmod that are 98% the same. Beans, MeanBean, Tweaked, Jedi, Elemental...that should be plenty to keep the crack flashers happy.
JeramyEggs said:
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Appreciate the input man!
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What is a rom really? To me It's just a better version of what the manufacturer builds. The stuff is basically the same for the most part with the addition of tweaks for better battery performance etc... That are added by the dev. The thing that makes a rom different are the things like themes and different looking batteries etc..., so why have 100 roms that essentially are the same? I would prefer to have 1 rom that performs well with a bunch of themes and mods hence i only use meanbean and love the real icon theme, or morphology. Mean bean is a great rom and with pbj kernel even better.
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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This answer makes me glad I didn't flame you last night when I was drunk haha. Meanbean plus morphology is plenty of customization for me haha
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stock android firmware has evolved into something so much better than it use to be...im still on beans build 2 because it flatout works and has all the things I need. Its hard to develop when stock touchwiz is so good out of the box. the only real thing that touchwiz needs is themeing. beans takes the cake on that. aosp was nice on my gs1 because it trimmed the fat and made the ol single core with limited ram run smooth. these quad core beasts are designed to handle bloat and a festure rich skins(touchwiz), so aosp does not have the appeal and performance advantage it use to. however for the folks that
keep this device well past tthe point verizon quits supporting it, then aosp will shine...simply for the fact it will bring the latest android offerings and keep the note 2 alive.
I think it had A LOT to do with TW and Spen/Note 2 specific features. Nobody really wants to lose them, and there's only so many ways to mess with TW. There's plenty of AOSP/KP stuff but look at the involvement compared to TW roms... It's there, but not as much... My take on it anyway.
Edit: Yeah, what Droidstyle said, lol.
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Don't forget that Samsung has promised an update to 4.2 for the Note II sometime this year. No real timetable, but when it comes it will be a shot in the arm for development.
Myself, I bounce between Beans ROM and CyanogenMod. The S-Pen features are what generally keep me hopping, but both are good.
I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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I'm not sure you understand the point of xda
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Everyone has different preference upon the choice of ROM. Some people like you prefer stability, other people prefer using new features & improvements and walk around and showing off - "hey I got Android 4.3 on my phone".
So let's not make a big deal about it. We are just different kinds of people.
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Ben36 said:
I'm not sure you understand the point of xda
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I'm not sure you understood the point of my topic
yiumanchi said:
Everyone has different preference upon the choice of ROM. Some people like you prefer stability, other people prefer using new features & improvements and walk around and showing off - "hey I got Android 4.3 on my phone".
So let's not make a big deal about it. We are just different kinds of people.
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Please show me 1 user that doesn't like stability in his rom
The only one making a big deal about it, actually is you
And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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We call those people beta testers, you're missing the point of my topic.
I'm talking about people who want stable roms but keep choosing buggy and under development roms and after that keep complaining to the devs about the bugs.
Understand now? Or do you need a picture?
Please dont speak on behalf people here. People can speak for themselves. You call them beta testers i call them users. Im not testing anything, im just using it. And im always excited when new version coming in. You are missing point of this forum. Its about developing and this process is endless. And non of the roms is really stable, there is always a situation when something happen and new fix or version is released.
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matood said:
Please dont speak on behalf people here. People can speak for themselves. You call them beta testers i call them users. Im not testing anything, im just using it. And im always excited when new version coming in. You are missing point of this forum. Its about developing and this process is endless. And non of the roms is really stable, there is always a situation when something happen and new fix or version is released.
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Forget it, you don't get it.
matood said:
And now imagine that everybody will use only stable roms... Who will test the initials, who will report bugs... Remember, before stable rom was always an initial release and couple of versions.
Im using cm10.1, altough some bugs which dont bothers at all and i dont use the features. Its awesome rom and Im learning myself what to do in development thread. Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now.
This is my point of view.
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Agree "Without using unstable roms i will know much less than now"
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hackerpower said:
I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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Bro, xda is meant for experiments. D
Everyone has his own fav ROM. Mine is stock.
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Forget it, you don't get it.
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If most of the people didn't get you, might be because you were not explaining well.
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Hey man. Let me mention you something. This thread is non-sense, too. They said development and it is development and you are using the developments of android devices. Android is open-source so everybody can modify it. If you don't like it, then don't use it. XDA didn't promise you to make your phone looks good. It is just developments from the amdroid/linux developers and they didn't promise you to get a full working ROM. They already mention the bugs. Some prefer CM Roms instead stock ROM. Some likes to see new adventures. So, if you're not part of this, you can leave just by now. This thread is useless and also disrespectful to some developers. Development isn't "The ROM to make you satisfy". So be it.
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@op
I think you didn't get the point of life and diversity of our world. You know, i don't like cucumbers and think they are awful. Do you like them? If you do, then, following your way of thinking, i should ask, why some people do like cucumbers, if they are awful in my view? They must be crazy and insane!
In fact, no, they are not insane. They are just not the same as me and they prefer different things. And it's beautiful, because if all people were the same, life would be too boring.
So, you need to understand that people are different and stop expecting everyone to feel the same as you. Feel free to use only stable ROMs with all features enabled, but don't accuse users who love flashing new unstable versions of being unwise just because they aren't like you.
Cheers
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i suppose they want to help in the developing process or something?
well i, myself, for instance, crave to take my phone to the next level, leaving the not-so-smooth ROMand trying the various ROMs created by our developer, and i like those buttery smoothness.
the point, for me, is to take the chance in buttery smooth and a lot of free RAM, coz my phone's free ram using the original ROM is quite saddening..
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I was wondering...
Why do people crave so much non fully working roms?
Do they think: "In my actual rom everything is working and bug free, I got to flash a non fully working rom full of bugs so i can have a lot of work trying to get it to run like my old rom."
Is that it? Sorry but i don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a sucker for new roms and mods, but if they are not fully working, why bother?
And when i say, non fully working, i mean wifi or camera don't work, not tethering and some other useless crap.
Sorry, i had to get this out of my chest.
Tell me what you think about this subject?
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@Ben36 is right
Kindly have a look at these threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
Keep calm :highfive:
@hackerpower - hey bro howz u .. ?
i was very active in this forum as drsanket_xperia_u .. i remember when u were new here..
okay getting straight to point..
roms cannot be fully working unless experimental builds are released and logcats are provided by us.. on the basis of this logcat errors are rectified.. and slowly n slowly all non working hardware becomes working (not forgetting sources n developer's hardwork)
secondly sometimes bcoz of our fondness for roms we are ready to use a rom irrespective of non working hardware
i remember when jb was ported to xu and camera was non functional ..i used that ported rom for over a week without a camera bcoz i loved jb on my xu ..
i hope u got the point..
From what I have seen and tried for Xperia p, there are no stable roms, Sony isn't even able to make a stable build, this phone sucks and I can't wait to get a new one.
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LOL everyone has there reasons
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This is more a discussion thread and this is going nowhere
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This is more a discussion thread and this is going nowhere
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agree
Tapatalk sig: I believe in god but I also believe in Metal. Does that makes sense? I hope so.
It's in the general forum.. You know where people can talk about things in general... You're such a forum nazi always getting your panties in a bunch over nothing...
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Dear Devs,
Android 4.4 is out and will support our devices too. Any one to work on to support our beloved Optimus One or All developers moved to a high end device already.
Thanks,
Kiran Kumar
Ya Google said that the low end android smartphones having at least 512mb of ram can run Kitkat smoothly. It will be new birth to our beloved Lg optimus one
Waiting for our developers reaction.
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Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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But... what about porting AOSP rom ?)
OMG, but one problem all developers are to lazy work with this legacy device! Sorry am bad English
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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that's not a problem.
-_-
You are like "I want that new 4.4 thingy, i don't know the new features but who cares cos it's New! Yeee ^_^ make it work make it".
Don't get me wrong but,
GB or 2.3.x was the best Android OS for our p500, well i still believe it is.
Why?
Cos there wasn't any Fc's, no post like "oh nooo camera image sh1ty", no malfunction on hardware level nor software,
Some dev, cavemen i believe was his name, fixed our multitouch problem, i don't think this fix was implemented on ics or jb since i've never found any evidence for it, test with "multitouch app" see what i mean.
The ICS is still in development, 4.2 JB has reached his final build, 4.3 has started it's dev.
With ICS we got less free ram, less free storage space but we gained better UI, kinda, and most important better system compatibility. Battery was somewhat intact.
With JB 4.2 we got the 3.0 kernel, more functionality and great battery drain but huge with wifi on. Less ram again, less space, new bugs, and the end of p500 gaming era xD.
Custom Rom numbers have fallen a lot too.
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
(i find Talho and Ginger DX best Roms, Talho as you know for gaming and Ginger as the best customized rom, so much functionality. But I'm running JB only cos gives me the BEST sound quality.)
Cheers.
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Is the new google experience launcher work? I mean does it at least work at the basic level?
please don't expect nexus 4 or nexus 5 functions shinny gimmick but if at least the basic feature of a launcher works then it is little improvement
to experience the feel of newer OS
as for the comment about perfecting 4.0 or 4.2
I am a bit in the middle with that .
because usually newer code is cleaner, thus more efficient, and who knows it maybe backward port friendly
and I think our development for 4.0 and 4.2 has reached is max because of the kernel limitation (correct me if I am wrong)
trying to port 4.4 would be an interesting hack In my opinion . a challange
and proof of concept I know software developer / programmer likes to proof their concept
they like challenge
try and get the google experience launcher here
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/download-and-install-the-new-google-experience-launcher/
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Velvet will fix this
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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But the source is not available for armv6 devices ...so we have to wait
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I think that cm will be habit late so why don't you drvs start with another ROM! Maybe simple aosp or a better one slimkat which is already out for nexus 4. I believe that slimkat will fit our phone perfectly as it is slim and needs less system storage.
Thx in advance! Devs are making a valuable effort! Hats off for them!
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another version of google launcher
this time it is XDA version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506488
Velvet FCs for me. Problem may well be an armv7 jni once again. Those FCs make the launcher really fun.
There is a launcher3.apk around which bypasses the Google Now business.
Will 4.4 run on our devices? Really?
Two problems:
Armv6! Pre-compiled closed source stuff for armv7. Just like before.
Room on /system for various new libraries. I am trying them on sdext with symlinks. This is Linux so this should work. This is Android so who knows?
Newer gapps and components are bigger than ever. Sort of contradicts all the buzz.
I was wrong ..
Most of the people are using it as a primary phones :thumbup::thumbup:
Thats good
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My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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Exactly. Project Svelte is what I was referring to. So we should see some better performance than with Jelly Bean.
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Perhaps.
Never said something like useless.
And getting high expect = won't get disappointed at the end.
So kitkat4.4 would have better performance then JB?
I mean, CM team spend time porting/dev JB ROM to our, well I might as say old, p500 and couldn't perfect it, greatest issues still are camera/battery/more space same storage, as android versions progress more and more storage space is taken, as well as ram usage.
And now somehow, google will make 4.4 universal build with all features from previous versions?
Google hasn't made any ICS or JB p500 specific ROM then it would take so much time.
But, making universal builds for phones-alike would be better option but builds won't be phone specific optimized.
I doubt kitkat's realization. It's a nice though but imagine the number of phones that still run on ROMs under JB.
EDIT: (source: xda and wiki)
"video playback performance issues due to missing libraries for hardware assisted decoding since ICS"
Would this be fixed? I remember now, I could never watched those Naruto downloaded ep's, video playback was like 1frame-per-sec (online streaming still fine)
I know, I know... the droid x2 is a lost cause, but i have to make it last a little while longer and I have 2 of them so...
Is anyone interested or talented enough to try to get CM11 (kitkat) ported over to this device? I know @kev1nMark has been "talking" to dragonzkiller about getting into it, but anyone else have resources to contribute? I've never worked on the device at such a low level before, but I have written apps for it as well as know a thing or two about code. I'm happy to contribute whatever i can, even if its as simple as running up tests on my spare device.
Thoughts?
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I know, I know... the droid x2 is a lost cause, but i have to make it last a little while longer and I have 2 of them so...
Is anyone interested or talented enough to try to get CM11 (kitkat) ported over to this device? I know @kev1nMark has been "talking" to dragonzkiller about getting into it, but anyone else have resources to contribute? I've never worked on the device at such a low level before, but I have written apps for it as well as know a thing or two about code. I'm happy to contribute whatever i can, even if its as simple as running up tests on my spare device.
Thoughts?
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I am considering it. This devices is a royal pain to work with though. I will see what i can do.
I'm certainly willing to test any builds that may come up, I'll have to locate a wall charger though..
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I've never worked on the device at such a low level before, but I have written apps for it as well as know a thing or two about code. I'm happy to contribute whatever i can, even if its as simple as running up tests on my spare device.
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In the same situation. It's looking like a good deal of work and might be a task I just simply don't have the skill for at this point. Still, I really want to have a useful old phone. Gingerbread makes me sad. Jelly Bean is just a resource hog. I've always wanted to learn a little more about the ROM build process and this might be a decent way to do it.
How does one go about porting KitKat to the X2?
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How does one go about porting KitKat to the X2?
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This is where I'm starting also w/ dragonzkiller's CM10 repos. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
EDIT: Perhaps it's better to start building an updated CM10 just to get everything building correctly? With my lack of experience diving right into CM11 seems a bit bold.
One can simply put cm11 framework on a cm10 base but that's not what we want.
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One can simply put cm11 framework on a cm10 base but that's not what we want.
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Not what we want, but it may be our only option.
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Should anyone decide to take on this herculean task, I'll be more than happy to be a test bunny. My X2 is presently a glorified paperweight.
-blu
I have a Milestone X2 running under the ACS Alaska carrier. My device is rooted and I've used every ROM that Larson Thorpe has put in his MX2 collection. The ICS and JB roms did work, but had too many issues/crashes/reboots/etc so I just stuck with Eclipse 2.3 which is based on Gingerbread.
This phone is just... hard to deal with sometimes, and we all know it's mostly due to the amount of RAM. KitKat seems to take care of a ton of memory issues in Android (tested on my N7.) People have said that KitKat won't actually improve older devices by much, but any improvement would be amazing!
I'm totally down to fully test any builds anyone comes up with. I wish I could help build/develop for this phone, but I'm a web developer and have absolutely no skill with ROM building or kernels or anything like that.
Here's to hoping!
I can get everything set up and running (as in, ready to compile) but the compile errors are truly a mess to debug.
Is anyone willing to make a "how to" thread that describes how to make a basic rom, specific to this phone?
I think enough people are still interested, but I think we'd get further if we helped to educate each other.
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Is anyone willing to make a "how to" thread that describes how to make a basic rom, specific to this phone?
I think enough people are still interested, but I think we'd get further if we helped to educate each other.
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This is about the closest thing I have seen, thanks Kevin for pointing it out already:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
Maybe once it gets put on more devices and development starts up again. You could ask nitroglycerin if he would be willing to update eclipse. But being a 512mb device this would be huge.
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Since we don't have a unlocked bootloader we can't just download the source and compile it, it takes a lot of skill. That's why we have a low development rate
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Since we don't have a unlocked bootloader we can't just download the source and compile it, it takes a lot of skill. That's why we have a low development rate
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Well, actually, you can have CM compile around a pre-compiled kernel (what we have) but there's more to it than that.
One, we already have graphics issues...and KitKat forces you to have newer drivers or else you get black artifacting
This is due to OpenGL 3 not being supported by the vendor blobs
Our blobs don't even have ICS support...
Another nightmare is, yes, getting CM to take the precompiled kernel
If I got my hands on the source that the cm10.1 rom is based off of, we could start work
I would aim to start with 10.2, then maybe add in cm11 features but keep the old system
It would make things easier, keep radios, wifi, storage and display working...hopefully
Also, being as I'm on cm10, could anyone link me the patched recovery?
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one on the ol' X2, this would be so awesome if we got a KitKat ROM
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one on the ol' X2, this would be so awesome if we got a KitKat ROM
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I'm literally ready to start working on it now
But I need our device stuff and I'm waiting for a reply to a PM for it
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I can get everything set up and running (as in, ready to compile) but the compile errors are truly a mess to debug.
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You have the device tree?
That's all I really need to get started
I want to do this soooo badly
Hell...I'm willing to do this Nexus Image style: hacking the files into a precompiled image to get it working
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Found the sources
smallzfsu said:
I know, I know... the droid x2 is a lost cause, but i have to make it last a little while longer and I have 2 of them so...
Is anyone interested or talented enough to try to get CM11 (kitkat) ported over to this device? I know @kev1nMark has been "talking" to dragonzkiller about getting into it, but anyone else have resources to contribute? I've never worked on the device at such a low level before, but I have written apps for it as well as know a thing or two about code. I'm happy to contribute whatever i can, even if its as simple as running up tests on my spare device.
Thoughts?
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I am willing to test. My programming skills are certainly not up to this task, but I would like to learn. Any way to get started?
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I am willing to test. My programming skills are certainly not up to this task, but I would like to learn. Any way to get started?
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I'm about to go work on it now
Maybe we'll have it in two weeks? No? Probably not...
I'll try building CM11, but don't expect the graphics to work
At all
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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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Jamie you the man.
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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
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so what i am reading here is you have 6 posts. i understand that you cannot post in development yet, but that does not slow you from reading.
i am not a technical brainchild and lack the ability to understand some of the terminology, so you will have to give me a little leeway.
development may have appeared to have slowed, but take into consideration the age of our device and the rate manufacturers are producing devices. we may not ever get another official upgrade for our Note, but my phone has ran better in the last few months than previous 8 months. there are some brilliant folks out there working selflessly for us. you may not find much in the straight CM development department, but since release of 10.2/ 4.3 roms, it is much more stable than 4.2 ever was. it runs smooth and effortless with none of the random reboots which plagued 4.2.
now we have quickly bumped to the 4.4 development which is still in its infancy. give it time. there are 2 Alpha/Preview releases right now, with at least another in the works that i know of. my guess is someone will have a Beta or full release by the end of the week at the rate these guys go. cant hold me to it as i am just a recipient who benefits from their deeds. that's just my guess from what i see as far as their work pace.
so excuse me now, i have to put some Kit Kat 4.4 on my phone, which has only been approval to run official 4.1.2 JB.
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out, I will try your builds.
I will be grumpy user, I promise
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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as i said take the tour, take some roms for a test drive. i don't know what you consider your experience level is........
everything runs a bit different on everybodys phone. for example, the Carbon rom has lots of cool features, but it just doesn't seem to want to work on my phone. i just don't want you to label all roms on the basis of one. Hellybean runs great on my phone. there are some here that wont give a phone or rom time to settle in. they make so many tweaks and adjustments in a rapid amount of time, they don't know if there adjustments actually did anything.
so be patient......if its not compatible for your phone, you will probably know right away. if it works, give it some time. there are good and helpful people here. just try and help yourself first and read.
getting ready to slam some Kit Kat on my phone right now with Jaime's CM11 preview 4.
As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
crutzulee said:
As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Yeah I know
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Personally, I'm loving the AOSP feel of 4.4 in a way that I have never really cared for it in Android versions prior. The way Google now is integrated into the GEL is how I would use Nova Launcher to setup previous versions.
With it's super stability, I am really praying that you give us something akin to your Nexus or Evervolv roms...Hell if we can just get working TTS and Video camera on top of what you've given us with your alpha, I'm done...............
.......until my next phone.
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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What are you talking about? What strategy? What balance?
Devs are also users. Almost all of the devs work on the devices that they own. We may not have the quantity of devs for other devices, but we definitely have quality devs. I also have GTab 2, and LG Optimus and Galaxy S2 LTE, which I manage for my family. Some have very active devs, some don't, but they all have good devs.
I don't know what you mean by "enough attention from developers", but we are getting plenty from our devs even if we don't deserve them. Whatever we are getting beyond the official 4.1.2 is all gravy. Jamie's CM11 preview is running awesome, and I haven't tried Patch's 4.4 rom, but I expect the same.
What more are you asking for?