Hi pls is their anyone who could fix the high ram usage a mod or something?
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What do you exactly think ram is, or "high ram usage"?
What are you expecting to be fixed?
This phone has plenty of ram, stop looking at the numbers and thinking your too high, don't listen to anyone that tells you that you need to kill tasks to make the phone better, they are all wrong!
Android works on a linux kernel, its not like windows and does not slow down (noticeably) when you multi-task, it manages its ram usage, it caches processes to save you time and battery next time. When it's ram is truly full (which I doubt yours ever is) it kills it's own apps.
So in summary unless android is closing all your apps when your trying to use them, stop worrying about ram!
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Please everyone stop saying that Windows does not use the RAM for Cache.
Just because it doesn't show the values in Task Manager doesn't mean it isn't doing so. The Resource Monitor tells otherwise.
port76, if you're rooted you can throw out all the apps that you do not use (e.g. the whole Samsung-Cloud stuff, Samsung Accounts, AllShare, ...) which will give you several MB more of RAM available for caching.
For the rest, refer to this: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
ivy thrown all bloatware still high ram it was perfect on my s2 in fact my s2 has more ram sometimes my s3 lags .. thanks anyway guys for feedback :thumbup:
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ram usage is fine on the S3, theres no fix needed.
unused ram = useless ram
if ur S3 lags, it must be something else
Jesus F****** christ!
I would rather have a fix for the redrawing of my launcher...
When i'm browsing and go back to the launcher it redraws/restarts...
Because other launchers beside touchwiz are not locked in the memory...
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I have a " samsung galaxy player 4 ". I was wounder how much memory ( RAM ) it has ?
I thought i had 512.... but its only showing like half that, why ?
Thanks
savvymatthew said:
I thought i had 512.... but its only showing like half that, why ?
Thanks
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The OS e.g. Android and Touchwiz use up about 100mb RAM for itself leaving only 300-400mb for the user. My HTC Desire S has 768mb but really i can only use 623mb hope this helps.
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The OS e.g. Android and Touchwiz use up about 100mb RAM for itself leaving only 300-400mb for the user. My HTC Desire S has 768mb but really i can only use 623mb hope this helps.
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Is there a way to install a mod to free up some of the RAM the OS uses? Or a lighter android that doesn't use quite as much?
ZaIINN said:
Is there a way to install a mod to free up some of the RAM the OS uses? Or a lighter android that doesn't use quite as much?
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I would recommend a 3rd party launcher like ADW Launcher on Android market very light weight, also a app like memory booster which frees RAM. Their are no such mods to change the file system usage as changing the amount of RAM the system needs could result in a unstable device. I have a Galaxy wifi 5.0 with 512mb RAM and the 200mb left is enough for me without lag etc. hope this helps
I recommend using Advanced Task Killer. It has a very easy interface, and frees up ram quickly.
What does it say for ram on the player.... I have seen 377... and 345.
I have 345 and Im pretty pissed about it.
I have 342mb of RAM available. But I heard that around 100+ mb are dedicated to the gpu on the galaxy s phone, and the galaxy player has the same hardware so should be the same. So I think it still has 512mb of ram, but just 342 is usable by Android.
Have a look at the output of dmesg (e.g. run the following in a terminal and copy the resultant file to your PC to view: dmesg > dmesg_output.txt) and it tells you how much memory you have and how much has been set aside. Note you will probably want to reboot before you do this as otherwise the interesting messages have scrolled out of the kernel message buffer.
I've been using an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It appears to simply close processes that are running in the background. It then shows you how much memory was was freed. I hit every so often and especially when things appear to lag. Seem to work pretty well.
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I've been using an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It appears to simply close processes that are running in the background. It then shows you how much memory was was freed. I hit every so often and especially when things appear to lag. Seem to work pretty well.
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Gingerbread/Samsung has it's own task manager which in turn has it's own widget which does this. No need to install an app for this
I to use fast reboot, find it much more effective than what the player comes with. I also use ram manager pro witch is a very good tool to set different ram profiles, I like "balance (more free memory)" the best. I first select my profile, then I run fast reboot, very effective! The more you run fast reboot, the more memory it frees up, witch is great for big games like asphalt 6. Also, I use zeam launcher, very lightweight, perhaps the lightest, but still a great improvement over touchwiz. Another thing, NO LIVE WALLPAPERS is an absolute necessary! These things eat WAY more ram than they say on taskmanager. THEY CAN EAT 50+ MB OF RAM!! Also, services like widgetlockscreen and such will eat your ram. If you want to play a heavy game, go to running services and kill as many as you can, you can also clear cached apps by hitting the menu button in running services. Hope these tips help you to make the most of our small supply of ram!
Hmm, after more testing, it would appear that wifi burns around 25mb of ram when on! So, if your really short on ram, just turn on airplane mode to kill all antennas. I just played modern combat 3 with 25mb free ram throughout the whole level I had 190mb free originally, that game sure eats the stuff :s The CPU rides at 1000mhz through the whole game, lol, could always use some more of that stuff! That's what oc is for
I'm running dagr8s alpha 2 ics rom. And I know that it has lower ram than the gb roms. But lately I have been running Tasker (amazing app btw) numbers and it keeps notifying me that I have low ram and it might not work properly. I go to applications in settings and check my ram and it says I only have 98mb free. I end all tasks and clear ram and then still I have like 120-130 free. I'm afraid that this is a too low amount. And wanted your opinions on what I should do. Is this enough should I just ignore the warnings will Tasker still run fine? How can I get more ram? Are any of you also experiencing low ram?
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Taller uses ram also. I run trebuchet launcher on alpha 2 and have no real issues. If it gets slow you can hold home and clear things out. Running a lot of widgets still affect ram also.
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If you go to developer options in settings at the bottom and select the background processes and set it to 3 processes at most that helps alot...also if u change ur dalvik heap to 64 that also helps a ton...DO NOT and I repeat do not set it below 64 as u will soft brick your phone
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You must understand how Android uses memory, it loads your frequentlyused programs into ram so when you go to use them, they open much faster than if they would if they had to open "fresh" each time.the lmk (low memory killer) should take care of everything if you ate currently using a process that uses a lot of memory it will kill off apps as it needs to.
Put simply: FREE RAM IS WASTED RAM.
Have a marine navigation program "Navionics USA EAST" that wouldn't open in ICS(leak and Saurom) unless I cleared RAM. No issue onstock GB, and runs fine on sgh-i777 ICS? Tried debloating leak, but didn't help much. Will try limiting running programs when back on ICS.
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Free Ram is wasted ram. Never thought about it like that. I understand but i would still like some free ram just so its available for other apps i open. I did use the task manager to kill running apps and clear ram and it didnt free up that much ram that is why i was worried.
Ill try limiting background proccess to .
Also how do i set dalvik heap to 64? And what exactly does this accomplish?
Thanks for the replies guys.
Yes set it to 3 processes at most. Task manaher killers r just crap dnt use them
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Welcome to ICS. This is exactly why I DONT like ICS - the memory footprint is huge just for ICS alone.
Free ram is not entirely wasted ram.
Let me explain.
So, my phone RAM is completely (or nearly) filled and I open a new app. There is now a long delay as Android goes to work closing app(s) down and doing garbage collection to free up memory for the new app I just tried to open but it only frees up enough for the one app I just opened.
And now, every app I go to open is going to have this long delay.
What you really want is about 80% ram usage - enough that there is free ram to open new apps without Android having to scurry around to free up a bunch of memory.
I dont know if there is a way to force a certain amount of ram to be free but imo, thats what youd really want.
I only have 6 user apps on my phone and Im running stock GB so even if I opened everything at once, there would be plenty of ram to have them open all at once (Go Launcher, Blue Skies (paid), Battery Power Widget, System Tuner Pro, BeyondPod, & Audible).
It's called "minfree memory," what you want is an app that will allow you to modify those values. Back when I had a Captivate, I used an app called AutoKiller for that purpose. I haven't needed it on the Note though. You can find it in the Android market.
Is it possible for apps to crash when the phone doesnt have enough free memory (RAM)?
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
How much RAM do you guys have available when running GB. The phone only sees 767Mb of RAM out of the 1Gb is that normal?
yea i think thats normal because the phone system uses some of that ram to make the phone work. Like if you ever had a sd card or an ipod that was say an 8gb ipod you actually only have like 7.66gb free.
But yeah I would like more ram availabe so the phone can load apps quickly and wont have to waste time closing stuff. I dont think free ram is wasted ram
As said before, Android uses ram differently since it based upon Linux. If the entire ROM runs around 600-800mB and most of it gets loaded into RAM, this will leave you with 400-200mB free RAM but the entire OS is already loaded and ready to go! Once you load a RAM intensive application, Android/Linux kernel will free space for that application.
I believe GPU consumes an excess of RAM to handle this beast's resolution/size.
I have to go back to GB. Delay in apps opening is getting old compared to i777 daily driver.
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Thanks for the info, guys.
Hey guys. Since i have my new s3 i ve noticed that sometimes apps in background close them self. For example if im on the browser i go answer a txt msg then came back to browser and page re loads itself like i re open it.
I know that when the ram is full the phone close apps. I started monitoring my ram and at start the phone i have always around 300mb. Dont thinks is much but its ok.
The thing is that as soon as i start using my phone memory left is 150mb at best. Even though i close apps and left the phone "rest" for an hour. There it stays. Then is when the automatically close apps issue starts. I download ram manager pro and set differents profiles. And ram still works as bad as before.
Something is keeping my ram and i dont know what is. I have all regulars apps. Twitter..facebook(both with sync deactivated)...whatsapp. not much more.
Any ideas?
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have you changed the build prop delvik heap size to lower the ram used. should free up some more ram for the user.
thats the only thing i know that will give you more ram to work with.....i honestly did not (EVER) see any Ram issues on my phone until i jumped to Jelly Bean ( memory Leak) so i dont think that you should have a problem.
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have you changed the build prop delvik heap size to lower the ram used. should free up some more ram for the user.
thats the only thing i know that will give you more ram to work with.....i honestly did not (EVER) see any Ram issues on my phone until i jumped to Jelly Bean ( memory Leak) so i dont think that you should have a problem.
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Will check that! A safe value for that?
Never experienced this with my s2...is weird
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no application is running on the background
that's plenty (for an s3)...
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At the time of writing this, I have 89MB free and the phone is still wicked fast. No lags or anything.
So, you do not need to worry about memory management in android now. It knows how to take care of itself.
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Disable Ripple Effect and then disable Lock Screen. Voila! You gain over 100MB in RAM.
Or leave as is. Not sure why folk get hung up on free RAM. Android is quite grown up now and can look after itself.
You have plenty - go and enjoy your phone.
Yes it is a problem
Hi bro!
Of course it is a problem!
Who tells you otherwise is either ignorant or playing idiot just to convince himself that everything is alright.
I have done quite a scientific comparison with numbers and everything; look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2141721&highlight=ram+discussion
EDIT: And yes I cannot multitask as I do on an S2!!! Something is seriously utterly dangerously wrong with this damn phone!!!
Zomg more free ram the better
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Zomg more free ram the better
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nope, free RAM = wasted RAM
The multitasking would be better with 2gb of ram but the phone is still perfectly usable with 1gb.
The galaxy s4 will inevitably have 2gb, just wait until it releases if it's that big of a deal to you.
I can send text messages, make calls and look at porn just fine with 1 gb of ram so I don't feel your pain.
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As others have mentioned, this is pretty good for an S3. Still not enough for real multitasking but hey, if you run 1 app, it will run wicked fast!
jinosong said:
Disable Ripple Effect and then disable Lock Screen. Voila! You gain over 100MB in RAM.
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I had my lockscreen disabled already and had to re enable it to disable ripple effect. Then after disabling lock screen again, sure enough I gained 100 more ram. Nice tip
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nope, free RAM = wasted RAM
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Please stop misrepresenting a microsoft quote in the same way every idiot does on the internet.
Free ram is ram that can be utilised for standby caching and making app starts faster - This is the way microsoft intended this statement to be taken. This "standby RAM" (Cached in task manager) is ready to be released and fill with application data on demand without making other applications page fault.
Ram being utilised by excessively hungry applications is more paging, more thrashing and less performance.
Ram in use by hungry droid apps falls in the latter category.
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Please stop misrepresenting a microsoft quote in the same way every idiot does on the internet.
Free ram is ram that can be utilised for standby caching and making app starts faster - This is the way microsoft intended this statement to be taken. This "standby RAM" (Cached in task manager) is ready to be released and fill with application data on demand without making other applications page fault.
Ram being utilised by excessively hungry applications is more paging, more thrashing and less performance.
Ram in use by hungry droid apps falls in the latter category.
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And your a fool for thinking Android memory management is like windows memory management.
When RAM starts to fill up in android background processes are cached to the cache partition and because we aren't using a HDD the performance loss is negligible.
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Please stop misrepresenting a microsoft quote in the same way every idiot does on the internet.
Free ram is ram that can be utilised for standby caching and making app starts faster - This is the way microsoft intended this statement to be taken. This "standby RAM" (Cached in task manager) is ready to be released and fill with application data on demand without making other applications page fault.
Ram being utilised by excessively hungry applications is more paging, more thrashing and less performance.
Ram in use by hungry droid apps falls in the latter category.
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Free ram is wasted ram for android and Linux. Only in windoze free ram is good ram.
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It is a real problem.
I think CM10.1 has more free RAM.
Except when apps in Android are cached they often have to reload when you "switch " back to them. Not really multitasking. It's as if when the app is cached it stores a pointer to what it was doing. I notice a huge difference when I have 400mb free ram, if I only load a few apps they don't get cached and I can switch to them without them reloading. When I have less than 100mb free ram even my desktop gets redrawn, tabling chrome reload etc etc
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And your a fool for thinking Android memory management is like windows memory management.
When RAM starts to fill up in android background processes are cached to the cache partition and because we aren't using a HDD the performance loss is negligible.
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You sir, are talking out your arse.
When ram fills up on android, processes are either terminated leading to them having to be restarted or pulled from cache, leading to sluggish ui and loading.
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Except when apps in Android are cached they often have to reload when you "switch " back to them. Not really multitasking. It's as if when the app is cached it stores a pointer to what it was doing. I notice a huge difference when I have 400mb free ram, if I only load a few apps they don't get cached and I can switch to them without them reloading. When I have less than 100mb free ram even my desktop gets redrawn, tabling chrome reload etc etc
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nope, free RAM = wasted RAM
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Well guys, i always listen about the ram used in android is different than windows..
My first question is, why RAM is like 90% used, the phone become slower???
My second question is, Why 99% of apps are always started with phone, when enter in Applications section, and see Running apps, you see millions of apps, or when you enter like, Calculator or Torch or another app details it appears Stop.. WHEN I STARTED IT?
Im now user of Galaxy S Duos, when i have Motorola Atrix using a custom rom named "Neutrino" my ram, after flash it was 80~90 and here in Galaxy S Duos is 390~500 and the max is 685mb so so, than when press clean RAM, it closes a certain number of processes but only 50mb ram max it decreases... Why?? And what can i do about that??
Thanks!!!!
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Well guys, i always listen about the ram used in android is different than windows..
My first question is, why RAM is like 90% used, the phone become slower???
My second question is, Why 99% of apps are always started with phone, when enter in Applications section, and see Running apps, you see millions of apps, or when you enter like, Calculator or Torch or another app details it appears Stop.. WHEN I STARTED IT?
Im now user of Galaxy S Duos, when i have Motorola Atrix using a custom rom named "Neutrino" my ram, after flash it was 80~90 and here in Galaxy S Duos is 390~500 and the max is 685mb so so, than when press clean RAM, it closes a certain number of processes but only 50mb ram max it decreases... Why?? And what can i do about that??
Thanks!!!!
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First, the Linux system (as Android is based upon) always try to make use of all available RAM. Having unallocated RAM is wasteful, so all RAM not used for apps, is allocated for caches etc, making your device not slower, but faster. When this memory is needed for better purposes such as apps, it is dynamically reassigned.
The other question I'm quite don't get, please clarify it and I'll give it a try. But Android do start and stop apps as it see fit, unnoticed by the user. This is the Android way of resource management, instead of paging/swapping. I.e. Android "swaps" entire apps, not RAM. As a developer, you have to know this, making your app able to handle a restart as transparent to the user as possible.
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First, the Linux system (as Android is based upon) always try to make use of all available RAM. Having unallocated RAM is wasteful, so all RAM not used for apps, is allocated for caches etc, making your device not slower, but faster. When this memory is needed for better purposes such as apps, it is dynamically reassigned.
The other question I'm quite don't get, please clarify it and I'll give it a try. But Android do start and stop apps as it see fit, unnoticed by the user. This is the Android way of resource management, instead of paging/swapping. I.e. Android "swaps" entire apps, not RAM. As a developer, you have to know this, making your app able to handle a restart as transparent to the user as possible.
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Yes, i know about that but i'm crazy because when my phone is slower i see the ram and it has apparently 500mb used from 680mb total... And i click on Clean, it closes like 20 apps and clean 100~mb aprox. of ram, and the phone becomes faster... That is my question, i know about linux... in galaxy s duos have an option to kill until number of processes you would... But didnt work i think because, i put max to 3 processes but even when i close the apps with back button, like facebook, instagram and another without home button, it stills on memory, taking the phone slower
But thanks for trying help me :victory:
Install this app Greenify search in play store
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I have it but dont know how to use? I need to select one by one the apps that i want?? :/
It's need root and you need to select the desired app, when your screen turned off for some minutes then greenify force stop your selected app.
If you don't understand try to search in YouTube and xda
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