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Hello all,
i am totally new in the world of roots and roms.
i managed to root and enable sideloading on my atrix! yay!
1) but what can i do now?
i am thinking about installing GreyBlur
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039763)
2) can someone (who is lil patient) explain me what i would get? will my phone be faster? can i damage it since iam still new in this area?
3) anyone knows a good article/post/thread/anything where i can start getting into this root/roms area? so i can learn about it?
thanks for all your help, you are awesome.
Greetz
EDIT:
I bought an att Atrtix and got version 4.1.83 running
Smintz said:
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1) but what can i do now?
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
CaelanT said:
I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Thank you for nothing I guess. To answer your question! Irooted This phone because I want side loading enabled.
scoob8000 said:
No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
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Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
CaelanT said:
I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
Yea, he may be a noob and not know the politics of posting before reading, but I bet each one of us did at one time too. What we should be doing is just politely pointing him in the right direction on how to learn more about all things root.
Such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972423 being a good place to start.
Understand though, if you screw up your phone, there is no one to blame but yourself. Read how to recover from a soft brick and hard brick before jumping in. Read all posts VERY carefully and all the way through. That's how I learned, and many others before me. And first and foremost, before asking questions about anything, do a quick search of the treads to see if it has already been asked and answered before. If you don't find your question, feel free to ask and ignore those that troll the treads.
Good luck my man.
Vangelis13 said:
I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
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Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
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Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
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Indeed!
Smintz said:
Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
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I am running Gingerblur which is very similar. I think it is a great ROM and one of the few so far for the Atrix. If you like some of the Blur stuff such as the gallery and social networking items, you have to understand that you will be losing them with the new ROM and going with the stock Android gallery. However, if you do a backup of your current ROM before flashing, you can always revert back if you don't like it.
Big thing, screen shots help for me. And the ROM developers do a great job at giving the details of their ROMs in their posts or websites.
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
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I agree, we all have to learn, but the vast majority of us started by reading through threads which have all the info about how to flash sbf's, root, sideload, flash themes, what is and is not possible, etc. We then tried things by following the instructions.
I'm not, and was not, trying to be a ****. I am however very blunt! Everything the OP needs is already there if he/she looks. The forums are full of "repeat" threads because people are basically too lazy to read and research for themselves before asking what has already been asked numerous times.
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thanks for all your help. its time to start reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099846
Hey there! I have a question, I just got myself a Galaxy Note SGH I717m running 2.3.6 from Bell a week ago and I'm thinking about rooting it. I've read that a few users rendered their device laggy and choppy after doing it and I'm really new to all of this so I wanna know exactly what I need (softwares/firmwares/files) in order to root it without ****ing it up.. I'm addicted to the phone and I don't wanna make it slow!
I've found a tutorial already but the phone used for it was the international version of the galaxy note so I decided not to try it unless someone who knows what hes doing tells me that it will work and not mess anything up!
Any help/tutorial would be *GREATLY* appreciated! Thanks in advance
Haven't you read any of the android development ?...read,read,read......if your scared to root you shouldn't ....we all read and do research to learn what we would like do or not to do...no one hear is gonna hold your hand and dobit for you...not to sound like a d**k.....but your not apparently ready for any of this..If you wont spend the time to research
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Hey there! I have a question, I just got myself a Galaxy Note SGH I717m running 2.3.6 from Bell a week ago and I'm thinking about rooting it. I've read that a few users rendered their device laggy and choppy after doing it and I'm really new to all of this so I wanna know exactly what I need (softwares/firmwares/files) in order to root it without ****ing it up.. I'm addicted to the phone and I don't wanna make it slow!
I've found a tutorial already but the phone used for it was the international version of the galaxy note so I decided not to try it unless someone who knows what hes doing tells me that it will work and not mess anything up!
Any help/tutorial would be *GREATLY* appreciated! Thanks in advance
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I rooted mine using mashi's method (a rooted AT&T rom) and it made my phone incredibly laggy with respect to the capacitive buttons. However, a friend of mine also rooted his using a different method and I haven't heard him complain at all. The method he used to root is a little more complex than some of the others available.
In either case, if you do decide to take the plunge, I've made stocks files of the Bell Galaxy Note that you can flash and get back to normal. You can find them at this thread.
And what wish777 said is good advice. Read up on it before you do. Be sure you're comfortable with it.
Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
wish777 said:
not to sound like a d**k.....
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No offense but you failed at it. I never asked for someone to do it for me!
MrJoran said:
I rooted mine using mashi's method (a rooted AT&T rom) and it made my phone incredibly laggy with respect to the capacitive buttons. However, a friend of mine also rooted his using a different method and I haven't heard him complain at all. The method he used to root is a little more complex than some of the others available.
In either case, if you do decide to take the plunge, I've made stocks files of the Bell Galaxy Note that you can flash and get back to normal. You can find them at this thread.
And what wish777 said is good advice. Read up on it before you do. Be sure you're comfortable with it.
Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
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That's definitely going to be useful, thanks a lot mate! And sorry 'bout that, next time I'm gonna read before posting on this forums.
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
NaughtyBot said:
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
I'm still waiting for a pure mac osx root method...
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
No offense but you failed at it. I never asked for someone to do it for me!
That's definitely going to be useful, thanks a lot mate! And sorry 'bout that, next time I'm gonna read before posting on this forums.
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well after you edited your post i guess your right..lmao
NaughtyBot said:
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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I agree with you, thank you very much for your advices!
MrJoran said:
I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
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Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge!! That's definitely gonna help me... I'm starting to feel a bit more comfortable with rooting my Note
wish777 said:
well after you edited your post i guess your right..lmao
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What the f, the only think I edited was the topic name.
MrJoran said:
I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
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I completely agree that the sheer volume of information in this particular forum is overwhelming and, in many cases, unclear and not (necessarily) relevant to the Canadian Note handhelds (Rogers, Bell or Telus).
I'm looking for information specific to rooting and unrooting my Rogers Note I717R with my Bell service and it's been a frustrating couple of days, with a handful of fruitless attempts to unroot, resulting in a re-flash to stock.
Oh well...I'll keep digging and doing this research. It seems that it was so much easier on my Moto Atrix, but I digress
Thanks all!
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I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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This method is easy and very similar to the one I used. But I'm fairly certain it will trip the flash counter. Just be sure to reset it if you need any warranty work.
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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Same one I linked in my previous post. Haven't used it personally but I know people who have and it worked for them. Added bonus of not replacing your stock ROM, which is a big plus for us Canadian users who don't want AT&T crap.
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
NaughtyBot said:
This method is easy and very similar to the one I used. But I'm fairly certain it will trip the flash counter. Just be sure to reset it if you need any warranty work.
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Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
MrJoran said:
Same one I linked in my previous post. Haven't used it personally but I know people who have and it worked for them. Added bonus of not replacing your stock ROM, which is a big plus for us Canadian users who don't want AT&T crap.
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Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
I rooted using Da_G method. Easy to follow install guide. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. But I do agree with previous posters, the info can be very overwhelming. Some devs provide good step by step info while others are vague or don't consider others level of experience when writing instructions. Read, read, read and only venture into the unknown when you are reasonably comfortable.
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
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No need to make backup unless you what to make a NANDROID using CWM. Otherwise, you can use the stock stuff I made for the Bell Note already.
Flash counter tripping is no big deal. Don't worry about it.
ROM is the operating system of the phone. And yes, this method does seem to just add what is needed to your stock ROM. But again, easy to return to stock using the files I've posted.
greezythumb said:
I rooted using Da_G method. Easy to follow install guide. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. But I do agree with previous posters, the info can be very overwhelming. Some devs provide good step by step info while others are vague or don't consider others level of experience when writing instructions. Read, read, read and only venture into the unknown when you are reasonably comfortable.
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Yeah, it is indeed really overwhelming, I'm kinda lost! I'll keep on reading, thanks for the precious advice!
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No need to make backup unless you what to make a NANDROID using CWM. Otherwise, you can use the stock stuff I made for the Bell Note already.
Flash counter tripping is no big deal. Don't worry about it.
ROM is the operating system of the phone. And yes, this method does seem to just add what is needed to your stock ROM. But again, easy to return to stock using the files I've posted.
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Ok so if I'm right, a nandroid backup is a backup of the ROM with all the user settings/data that you can use to go back to the previous settings in case you don't like the new ROM you've flashed onto your device?
One last question, is it 100% sure that the files you uploaded are going to work my I717M? I bought it in montreal, if that can help you determining if it will work or not... And once again, thank you very much for the information!
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Ok so if I'm right, a nandroid backup is a backup of the ROM with all the user settings/data that you can use to go back to the previous settings in case you don't like the new ROM you've flashed onto your device?
One last question, is it 100% sure that the files you uploaded are going to work my I717M? I bought it in montreal, if that can help you determining if it will work or not... And once again, thank you very much for the information!
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You're correct on the NANDROID. And as I understand it, all the i717M are the same. I have the same i717M as you and that's where the files are from. And Naughty Bot also has an i717M and has used the files to go back to stock. The only thing that may be different on yours (and I doubt this) is there may be some French specific stuff because you bought it in Quebec but you can confirm that for us. Even if there is a long as you don't mind losing that stuff then you're good to go.
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
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From what I've learned so far, there's no way to back up ALL your data and user settings until AFTER you've rooted the phone (using NANDROID or something like Titanium Backup). If you have a Google account and store your contacts and email in Gmail, that should be all be stored on Google's servers. You can use something like MyBackup Pro to back up some of your stuff but in most cases, you can't back up app data (like game saves and stuff) until after the phone is rooted. Android just won't let you get at it. However, most rooting methods don't usually touch your data, just make sure to follow the instructions closely and also make sure that the root method has been tested on your particular version of the phone. Take note that, if you unroot the phone, all your NANDROID/Titanium restore data becomes useless (phone needs to be rooted to restore it, pretty sure).
As for the flash counter, it used to be a big deal but not so much anymore. The phone has a counter that records how many times the phone has been flashed with a custom (non-stock) ROM. If you ever had to return your phone for warranty work and the counter was greater than one, Sammy had grounds to refuse to honour the warranty. You could unroot the phone but that didn't reset the flash counter. Braway came up with a method a few weeks ago but the problem was that it wasn't specifically for Canadian phones. Then MrJoran managed to obtain the stock Android components (with some help from willing friends) for the Bell Note and assembled a method of unrooting the Bell Note with provisions for resetting the flash counter. Now the only thing you have to worry about is if you brick the phone in such a way that you can't flash stock ROMs back to it. Of course, in that case Samsung probably wouldn't be able to see what you've done anyway (most likely). But once the warranty is expired, flash away. Go nuts, no warranty, doesn't matter.
I stand to be corrected on any/all of this. And what MrJoran said about the French stuff.
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You're correct on the NANDROID. And as I understand it, all the i717M are the same. I have the same i717M as you and that's where the files are from. And Naughty Bot also has an i717M and has used the files to go back to stock. The only thing that may be different on yours (and I doubt this) is there may be some French specific stuff because you bought it in Quebec but you can confirm that for us. Even if there is a long as you don't mind losing that stuff then you're good to go.
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Awesome! That's all I needed to know by the way, these are the only apps that might not be included in your files, I'm not sure though and I don't care if I loose them I think I can easily get them back on Bell's site, I will confirm that in a day or two, once I convinced myself to root the Note!
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From what I've learned so far, there's no way to back up ALL your data and user settings until AFTER you've rooted the phone (using NANDROID or something like Titanium Backup). If you have a Google account and store your contacts and email in Gmail, that should be all be stored on Google's servers. You can use something like MyBackup Pro to back up some of your stuff but in most cases, you can't back up app data (like game saves and stuff) until after the phone is rooted. Android just won't let you get at it. However, most rooting methods don't usually touch your data, just make sure to follow the instructions closely and also make sure that the root method has been tested on your particular version of the phone. Take note that, if you unroot the phone, all your NANDROID/Titanium restore data becomes useless (phone needs to be rooted to restore it, pretty sure).
As for the flash counter, it used to be a big deal but not so much anymore. The phone has a counter that records how many times the phone has been flashed with a custom (non-stock) ROM. If you ever had to return your phone for warranty work and the counter was greater than one, Sammy had grounds to refuse to honour the warranty. You could unroot the phone but that didn't reset the flash counter. Braway came up with a method a few weeks ago but the problem was that it wasn't specifically for Canadian phones. Then MrJoran managed to obtain the stock Android components (with some help from willing friends) for the Bell Note and assembled a method of unrooting the Bell Note with provisions for resetting the flash counter. Now the only thing you have to worry about is if you brick the phone in such a way that you can't flash stock ROMs back to it. Of course, in that case Samsung probably wouldn't be able to see what you've done anyway (most likely). But once the warranty is expired, flash away. Go nuts, no warranty, doesn't matter.
I stand to be corrected on any/all of this. And what MrJoran said about the French stuff.
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Yeah you're right, the phone has to be rooted to be restored and thanks for explaining the flash counter thing in dept, it's much more clear now! I was just a bit afraid to root it since I've been experiencing a weird bug on the phone and I might have to bring it to Bell to have it checked up or something but now, it's all good!
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE HELP!
i have a VERIZON NOTE 2 and used exynos abuse to root, i DO NOT have the bootloader unlocked, and have done UNROOT via Exynos abuse and still show status "modified" HOW DO I FIX because i have lost my 4G service and customer NO-service couldnt fix it , i need to take it back to VZW tommorrow and all the threads on here seem to be retarded clutter outdated garbage nerdspeak babble SO any UPDATED ways of removing the "modified" status, (i know that this stupid site likes to leave questions unanswered for a lonnnng time. and after the hours of frustrating searching on this "seems" to be useless site i need help.. i probably posted in wrong spot or something but i dont care HELPPPPPP... PLEASE DONT GIVE ME SOME BS JUST HELP PLEASEEE. TRIANGLE AWAY ONLY WORKS ON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER AND I HAVE VERIZON AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING..
It's ill advised to speak disparragingly about the very people you petition for help.
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Wrong forum
First please read XDA rules #1 & #15. There is a Q&A both here and in the device forum where I quickly searched and found this post on how to restore your phone to stock.
Your phones forum is really the best place to ask such a specific question. Ranting in the General Discussion/General section will only get you generalities.
good luck with your phone. Ya shulda boughta SONY
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droidstyle said:
Here is a guide I have put together for the VZW Samsung SCH-I605 Galaxy Note II
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This guide contains 5 sections:
Section 1: How to Root/ Return to Stock 4.1.1 Jelly Bean coming from any rom with Odin
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Section 1b: How to return to stock 4.1.1 Jelly Bean coming from any rom with Odin
Step 1: Download and install Odin3 from section 1a if you have not already done so.
Step 2: Download this stock VRALJB image and pit file to a windows based pc.
Folks that have accepted the L4 OTA can not use the VRALJB image at this time...for now use Root66 from section 1a.
Official VRALJB 4.1.1 12/9/12- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264(This will wipe data and return your device to factory stock like the day you purchased the device. Also Unlocked and Locked devices may use this to return to Factory Stock conditions!)
SCH-I605_16gb.Pit- http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?05cj895zu3tls7z
Step 3: Power device off, hold the volume down/home/power keys until you see a yellow triangle, then press the volume up key to access "odin or download mode".
Step 4: Open Odin and connect the oem usb cable from pc to device. The driver should automatically install( it did for me on windows 7 64bit). There should also be a "comport number" in upper left hand corner of Odin indicating communication between the pc & device.
Step 5: Click on the pit function of Odin and select the sch-i605-16gb.pit file.
Step 6: Click on the PDA function of Odin. Select the stock VRALJB image you downloaded in step 1, then select start. This operation should take less than 8 minutes before Odin will say pass/reset.
Step 7: Your device should boot back up into factory stock 4.1.1 android!
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Lol. Odin back to stock. Looks like you should try to understand what retarded clutter outdated garbage nerdspeak babble you're doing to your phone before you go ahead and do it. Have fun with Verizon tomorrow, I'm sure they'll be thrilled to accommodate you.
lpowilliams said:
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE HELP!
i have a VERIZON NOTE 2 and used exynos abuse to root, i DO NOT have the bootloader unlocked, and have done UNROOT via Exynos abuse and still show status "modified" HOW DO I FIX because i have lost my 4G service and customer NO-service couldnt fix it , i need to take it back to VZW tommorrow and all the threads on here seem to be retarded clutter outdated garbage nerdspeak babble SO any UPDATED ways of removing the "modified" status, (i know that this stupid site likes to leave questions unanswered for a lonnnng time. and after the hours of frustrating searching on this "seems" to be useless site i need help.. i probably posted in wrong spot or something but i dont care HELPPPPPP... PLEASE DONT GIVE ME SOME BS JUST HELP PLEASEEE. TRIANGLE AWAY ONLY WORKS ON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER AND I HAVE VERIZON AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING..
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Now that's funny
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
lpowilliams said:
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE HELP!
i have a VERIZON NOTE 2 and used exynos abuse to root, i DO NOT have the bootloader unlocked, and have done UNROOT via Exynos abuse and still show status "modified" HOW DO I FIX because i have lost my 4G service and customer NO-service couldnt fix it , i need to take it back to VZW tommorrow and all the threads on here seem to be retarded clutter outdated garbage nerdspeak babble SO any UPDATED ways of removing the "modified" status, (i know that this stupid site likes to leave questions unanswered for a lonnnng time. and after the hours of frustrating searching on this "seems" to be useless site i need help.. i probably posted in wrong spot or something but i dont care HELPPPPPP... PLEASE DONT GIVE ME SOME BS JUST HELP PLEASEEE. TRIANGLE AWAY ONLY WORKS ON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER AND I HAVE VERIZON AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING..
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Wow.
seriously?
Nice informative thread title as well....
lpowilliams said:
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE HELP!
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Looks like it took about 3 hours and that's in the middle of the night!! Seem pretty good to me.
LET'S SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO SAY THANKS!!!
Help me you A-HOLES! :laugh:
tgyberg said:
Help me you A-HOLES! :laugh:
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Heh seems like he coulda saved two minutes of typen just by sayen that since thats basically what he said lol
No problem man. I'll help you since these other guys are jerks. I know how it feels. Go here with your creditcard and all your problems will be solved. http://www.apple.com/iphone/
blackbass595 said:
No problem man. I'll help you since these other guys are jerks. I know how it feels. Go here with your creditcard and all your problems will be solved. http://www.apple.com/iphone/
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That is a good place for someone to place an order for spoon fed customer support.
I have already provided a solution found in his devices forum.
As there has been no update on progress I figured the issue was resolved.
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2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
archa1c said:
It's ill advised to speak disparragingly about the very people you petition for help.
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Judging from the original post, I think you used too many 10 dollar words. Lol
thanks for the help ya A-holes lol greatly appreciated
UPDATE: first: sorry about the A-holeness, lol i had dealt with verizon on the phone for WAY TOO LONG! and you know how that feels
:beating-head-against-the-wall
and for the life of me could not find a solution to fix the issue
Second, i was able to return to "normal" status, apparently the google wallet hack was the problem, but still had no 4G, they replaced the simcard which fixed it and also somehow changed the status back to "modified" ??? then an hour later the phone went into a boot loop vzw said they would send me a "certified like -new" phone, still not sure if i should just accept the "like-new" or keep my original (now working because i flashed it back to stock with some guide that some A-Hole posted )
flash back to stock and forget this website ever existed. you're only going to hurt yourself further if you keep trying.
Wow this is the garbage replies I was referring too. You obviously cant read.i did flash back to stock and why would I forget this site. Ive been here wayy longer than you. And why dont you keep your useless comments to your self. Why would you run your d-sucker to provoke someone. I posted my apology but not to you.
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lpowilliams said:
Wow this is the garbage replies I was referring too. You obviously cant read.i did flash back to stock and why would I forget this site. Ive been here wayy longer than you. And why dont you keep your useless comments to your self. Why would you run your d-sucker to provoke someone. I posted my apology but not to you.
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He probably read your first post and quit reading since you were an @ss, that's why I and most others here didn't help you. If you would have just asked instead of insulting everyone here you would have got a link to a back to stock thread, and if you had anymore specific questions you would have been helped. Judging by this response you weren't just annoyed at the time, your just an @ss who has no idea what he's doing, and Iphone would be perfect for you, it's idiot proof.
lpowilliams said:
UPDATE: first: sorry about the A-holeness, they would send me a "certified like -new" phone, still not sure if i should just accept the "like-new" or keep my original (now working because i flashed it back to stock with some guide that some A-Hole posted )
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Glad you recovered your phone.
If it was me I would keep the one you know works. Let Verizon send the second hand phone to someone else.
Just remember that opinions are like a§§holes, everyone has both.
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2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
lpowilliams said:
UPDATE: first: sorry about the A-holeness, lol i had dealt with verizon on the phone for WAY TOO LONG! and you know how that feels
:beating-head-against-the-wall
and for the life of me could not find a solution to fix the issue
Second, i was able to return to "normal" status, apparently the google wallet hack was the problem, but still had no 4G, they replaced the simcard which fixed it and also somehow changed the status back to "modified" ??? then an hour later the phone went into a boot loop vzw said they would send me a "certified like -new" phone, still not sure if i should just accept the "like-new" or keep my original (now working because i flashed it back to stock with some guide that some A-Hole posted )
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Google wallet hack has nothing to do with triangle notification and 4G signal being dropped. You probably rooted wrong. If I were you, I'll just keep my original note2 and figure out to clear the mess. There is always solution to this and every methods are currently workable.
Ahaha now he's threatening me over pm's. This is wonderful. Listen champ, dickhead posts are going to get dickhead replies. Absolutely nobody, here or anywhere else in the world, is going to pander a friendly response after you insult them while begging favors. Learn this now while you still can, you're going to have a very unhappy life if you can't learn how to cooperate.
For comedy
lpowilliams said:
Go **** yourself you ****ing troll. Maybe try getting off the computer every once and awhile. Maybe try getting a real woman instead of ****ing your couch. Unlike you.i dont care about getting banned. I have a life.
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Hello!
I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory) I just cant work like this. Someone would say, google it... I have a life, I don't want to google every single thing I don't understand.
I rooted a nexus with ease, this is just insane.
Sorry, im just not impressed, tried to root it a lot of times, it always ended me loosing my temper. Worst manufacturer for unlocking. Allready unlocked a psp, a samsung, asus, ps3, wii...but this is just stupid..
Anyone wanna help me out? Give me a link to a good tutorial?
Or just let me dump the phone?
Thanks...
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This is what q&a forum stands for...
Anyway:
If you only want root, the easiest way would be to follow the htcdev.com instructions to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery afterwards. Then just flash a superuser.zip and you're done
(A+B from first link)
To avoid problems with flashing roms it might be useful to s-off your phone so that you can change your hboot
1 option is the wire trick (a,b,d )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
or follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124142
Edit thread reported because of wrong forum
Will most likely move to q/a soon, just to let you know
Quantenhall said:
This is what q&a forum stands for...
Anyway:
If you only want root, the easiest way would be to follow the htcdev.com instructions to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery afterwards. Then just flash a superuser.zip and you're done
(A+B from first link)
To avoid problems with flashing roms it might be useful to s-off your phone so that you can change your hboot
1 option is the wire trick (a,b,d )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
or follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124142
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And I can later unroot it and put it back to normal if there will be a hardware fail so I can send it to sevice?
Thanks for the links and stuff
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If your phone is still working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136964
(If you did the s-off steps)
If you used htcdev they will always know that you unlocked your phone, but that seems to be worse than it actually is:
If you are not sending your phone to HTC directly, but to where you buyed it, they will most likely not look for that
If your phone is completely broken they can't proof that it was your fault (or they dont do it because its too much work) and if there are issues that have nothing to do with rooting, etc like a broken screen or similar they still have to repair it with warranty
(That's what I believe,but it might be difficult in some cases and different in some countries)
Quantenhall said:
If your phone is still working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136964
(If you did the s-off steps)
If you used htcdev they will always know that you unlocked your phone, but that seems to be worse than it actually is:
If you are not sending your phone to HTC directly, but to where you buyed it, they will most likely not look for that
If your phone is completely broken they can't proof that it was your fault (or they dont do it because its too much work) and if there are issues that have nothing to do with rooting, etc like a broken screen or similar they still have to repair it with warranty
(That's what I believe,but it might be difficult in some cases and different in some countries)
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Well that is a problem... :S
If I send my phone, I send it to my mobile provider, then they send it to a authorised htc servicer...
I really don't care if I loose it, IF the phone would work like it should (this is my 2nd evo, the fist one visited the service 7 times, and the new ones 3D isnt working... :S )
Im gonna call them tomorrow and ask them how is it with the unlock...
Do I have to do the s-off?
I just want a stock android because sense is slow...
Maybe a link to a really simple android 4.0 + ?
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No rom discussions on xda/evo forum, sry :/
The most used jb roms should be the ones from johnnyslt(cm10.1), helicopter88 (several aosp roms) and agrabren (4.1 , a bit outdated)
For 3d cam you have to use a sense rom
The gsm forum is full of roms, try them yourself
Without s-off some ROMs/kernel can make problems and you need it to change your hboot
This is needed because with some hboots (1.53 for example) you can't use ROMs that are not based on sense 3/3.6 (+viper afaik)
mrsofa said:
Hello!
I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory) I just cant work like this. Someone would say, google it... I have a life, I don't want to google every single thing I don't understand.
I rooted a nexus with ease, this is just insane.
Sorry, im just not impressed, tried to root it a lot of times, it always ended me loosing my temper. Worst manufacturer for unlocking. Allready unlocked a psp, a samsung, asus, ps3, wii...but this is just stupid..
Anyone wanna help me out? Give me a link to a good tutorial?
Or just let me dump the phone?
Thanks...
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I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
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Sorry, but just unlocking your phone destroys it's warranty. So if you want your warranty, don't unlock it and root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory)
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You are supposed to download the Android SDK files, and then drop them into C:\Android, like it says, easy enough for a 6 year old to do it.
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Also, it's complicating so idiots don't break their phones or get screwed over by giving complete access to the phone with a simple click of a button in an application.
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You are supposed to download the Android SDK files, and then drop them into C:\Android, like it says, easy enough for a 6 year old to do it.
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Also, it's complicating so idiots don't break their phones or get screwed over by giving complete access to the phone with a simple click of a button in an application.
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Noone said where to put it... it just said, like it is normal to have the android sdk installed...
And htc is probably the only phone that has this procces so long and confusing
Just confess that youre a htc fan boy and cant confess a single fail.
Why does samsung or asus have the unlocking process much easyer then? And why can I still get my warranty on them if I lock them back up? I can just say that htc is the worst phone ever...
mrsofa said:
Noone said where to put it... it just said, like it is normal to have the android sdk installed...
And htc is probably the only phone that has this procces so long and confusing
Just confess that youre a htc fan boy and cant confess a single fail.
Why does samsung or asus have the unlocking process much easyer then? And why can I still get my warranty on them if I lock them back up? I can just say that htc is the worst phone ever...
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Lol, I'm not an HTC fanboy at all, you're just, well, dumb. All you're doing is whining about how HTC phones are "hard" (they're not... lol) and the fact that you clearly void your warranty like it says when you're unlocking the phone. Just because the company is actually smart and does things right, doesn't mean they're bad. It just means you can't cope with how things really are and want everything to be perfect and dandy, but you can't have things your way some times.
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Lol, I'm not an HTC fanboy at all, you're just, well, dumb. All you're doing is whining about how HTC phones are "hard" (they're not... lol) and the fact that you clearly void your warranty like it says when you're unlocking the phone. Just because the company is actually smart and does things right, doesn't mean they're bad. It just means you can't cope with how things really are and want everything to be perfect and dandy, but you can't have things your way some times.
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Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
mrsofa said:
Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
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Well, I'm not going to bother with you at all . You're pretty arrogant for trying to keep the thought of all phones being the same. HTC is their own brand, they make their phones how they wish. If you're not smart enough to run a few lines in command prompt then don't keep trying because it looks like you're not even willing to try it out. I can tell you right now, that unlocking your phone is so simple it's not even funny, you're just not looking into it and worrying about it being easy.
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Well, I'm not going to bother with you at all . You're pretty arrogant for trying to keep the thought of all phones being the same. HTC is their own brand, they make their phones how they wish. If you're not smart enough to run a few lines in command prompt then don't keep trying because it looks like you're not even willing to try it out. I can tell you right now, that unlocking your phone is so simple it's not even funny, you're just not looking into it and worrying about it being easy.
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Nope. Why make so many steps? Why waste half of my day for this? No thanks!
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Nope. Why make so many steps? Why waste half of my day for this? No thanks!
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Well, because that's how HTC wants it to be. Phones aren't simple anymore, get over that fact.
'Blu said:
Well, because that's how HTC wants it to be. Phones aren't simple anymore, get over that fact.
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Htc isnt simple. Enogh now. Im gonna call htc service tomorow and find out how it goes...
mrsofa said:
Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
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No offense, but thats a nexus. It doesnot matter who manufactures the Nexus device, they all are so easy to unlock. Even if HTC makes one it would be easier....
and the methods change from one device to another even if they are from same manufacturer (if you are doing it the unofficial way ofc)
hey... plain and simple if you don't want to loose your warranty. LEAVE IT ALONE!. I have 3 HTC phones all unlocked, rooted and running custom roms. to me it was easy! i just read everything i could to make sure i understood. i watched videos and just did it. to me it sound like you are just scared (which is ok) but just leave it alone if it is that big of a deal!
jaredl45600 said:
hey... plain and simple if you don't want to loose your warranty. LEAVE IT ALONE!. I have 3 HTC phones all unlocked, rooted and running custom roms. to me it was easy! i just read everything i could to make sure i understood. i watched videos and just did it. to me it sound like you are just scared (which is ok) but just leave it alone if it is that big of a deal!
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Yes im scared, when I see something and dont understand it...i just cant go like : wgatevery, lets try like this...
Anyway... called tge service, I loose warranty if I unlock it, but if I lock it back when the device needs service then its not a problem
My strategy, I read everything I can 3 times before I try it. I also read every problem and read the solutions so I know how to fix it. Once you do it, you will say, that was easy. Once you actually understand what every step does and means, your brain will capture the info easier and it will make sense. An remember, if you break it, chances are someone else has a fix for what you did because they did the same thing.
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Tried with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNoL_EPJH9I
I sent the code to htc, and got a unlock code and get this error:
sending 'unlocktoken' (0 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.143s]
writing 'unlocktoken'...
FAILED (remote: unlock token check failed)
What? What?
There are like 5 steps. Don't tell me to try again, done it 5 times already.
Using win8 is this a problem?
You must be to stupid to follow the guides. I would say. Stop asking for help on rooting your evo. And stop talking sh*@ about the procces. Go and buy and buy an iphone they have jaibreak guide for dummies.
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OK so I;m a total noob to this awesomeness, but my problem is no matter how many apps Ive downloaded to help me flash a ROM to my Galaxy s4 SCH-I545 I simply do not see the advanced options in recovery mode. Am I doing something horribly wrong or is it a simple fix that I will probably feel totally embarrassed about. Also the little green android dude always shows error above it.Please Help
uhswrestler said:
OK so I;m a total noob to this awesomeness, but my problem is no matter how many apps Ive downloaded to help me flash a ROM to my Galaxy s4 SCH-I545 I simply do not see the advanced options in recovery mode. Am I doing something horribly wrong or is it a simple fix that I will probably feel totally embarrassed about. Also the little green android dude always shows error above it.Please Help
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You really need to educate yourself. Just jumping in like it appears you are will only cause a lot of problems. No one is going to take you step by step through the entire process. Read, read, read. Research as much as you can. Then research some more. It's the best thing you can do.
riker147 said:
You really need to educate yourself. Just jumping in like it appears you are will only cause a lot of problems. No one is going to take you step by step through the entire process. Read, read, read. Research as much as you can. Then research some more. It's the best thing you can do.
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Believe me i have researched a lot but i cant find anything on why my advanced options wont appear when i go into recovery mode. My green android guy always shows error when i enter recovery. Is that something i'm doing wrong, if it is is there a link for someplace i can find the fix to.
uhswrestler said:
Believe me i have researched a lot but i cant find anything on why my advanced options wont appear when i go into recovery mode. My green android guy always shows error when i enter recovery. Is that something i'm doing wrong, if it is is there a link for someplace i can find the fix to.
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Do you even know what your build number is? Are you rooted? If so, what method did you use to root? What recovery are you trying to use?
riker147 said:
Do you even know what your build number is? Are you rooted? If so, what method did you use to root? What recovery are you trying to use?
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My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
uhswrestler said:
My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
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If you actually did research you would know that you can't install a custom recovery to a MK2 build. Your ONLY option is Safestrap. (Search).
Good luck.
uhswrestler said:
My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
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"They" said Vroot was safe to use.
Did "They" also tell you to then try to flash a custom recovery like TWRP? Then "They" lied.
You're on MK2. As I've told five or six people today, you can't have a custom recovery on any I454 other than those on the MDK build.
First, there's several different phones called the Galaxy S4. The hardware and software aren't the same between vendors. The Verizon model is VERY locked down and won't permit you to flash custom ROMs. For you, on MK2, Safestrap is the only way to custom flash.
Read the threads here on Safestrap and the thread in the development forum to help you understand what you can do.
They're long threads, but read them. If you can't spend the time to read, don't flash, as you'll just brick your phone.
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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BlackishPerson said:
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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Thank you for understanding. I am sorry I am a noob and as expected I didn't know what exactly to research up. I didn't know as a NOOB that I said I was that the build number was my problem. There for I researched what I did know and you can see when i became a member and when I decided to post this and every day in between I was trying different methods on how to get a custom ROM on my phone. Luckily for me you were very resourceful and I learned a great deal from you and appreciate it a lot. I know what you are doing is really aggravating and i praise you for your knowledge. I just hope next that next time we are in contact and I knowingly ask a noobish question you will be a little more understanding with me. The only reason that I posted on here was because I felt that I had tried every possible way and was doing something wrong and it happens to be that I just couldn't do it the ways I was researching up. Thanks a lot for all your help boss man I hope soon enough I can pick your brain for all the knowledge you have when I come across another problem with rooting a different device or just some questions about a certain Rom.
Ok so I just want to say thank you all for your help and the advice you gave me it was totally awesome. I got it to work and now im running Hyperdrive on my galaxy s4. thank you so much.
BlackishPerson said:
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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there is nothing mean about commenting on researching and fully understanding before proceeding. We have dozens of posts every day in this forum by "noobs" who don't take 5 minutes to read anything. And then expect massive help when they screw their phones up....
There are all sorts of youtube videos on just about every aspect of GS4. We have countless threads on what you can and can't do to the GS4 and yet every single day we have new posters asking why they can't load any rom they want or whats taking so much time to get a bootloader unlocked,,,,we have dedicated Devs who basically donate their time to all of us. The least we can do is educate ourselves in what we can and can't do....
decaturbob said:
there is nothing mean about commenting on researching and fully understanding before proceeding. We have dozens of posts every day in this forum by "noobs" who don't take 5 minutes to read anything. And then expect massive help when they screw their phones up....
There are all sorts of youtube videos on just about every aspect of GS4. We have countless threads on what you can and can't do to the GS4 and yet every single day we have new posters asking why they can't load any rom they want or whats taking so much time to get a bootloader unlocked,,,,we have dedicated Devs who basically donate their time to all of us. The least we can do is educate ourselves in what we can and can't do....
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And you are very right with your statement I completely agree with you. But as a noob to this I tried to educated myself as much as possible The only thing I hate more is not being able to figure something out on my own. But I had no clue what was my problem to the fact that I couldn't flash a rom with all the possibilities and programs at my disposal. It was just not knowing what to search not the fact that all noobers are lazy
BlackishPerson said:
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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Sorry if you think I'm being a jerk, but I wasn't exaggerating. Five to ten people come here just about every day wondering why their phone bricked due to trying to install custom recovery when spending just an hour of two reading this forum would have made it clear that they can't do that.
Trust me, I wasn't being mean, simply blunt. I'm astonished by anyone that thinks that flashing random stuff onto a $600 phone without spending an hour or two to understand what they're doing is a good idea.
I'm not saying you don't have the right to be mean because you do but before you are just figure out if they are Are the stupid noobs or the ones that actually took the time to try to search but couldn't come up with anything. Just remember not every is a complete idiot of a noon.
The thing is that we all were noobs once, but we didn't ask anyone to hold our hands. Unfortunately I can't say I believe you tried as hard as you say you did OP. I mean if your new to rooting, the first thing you should do is search google or youtube for a guide. That's a pretty basic realization all of us had when we learned about this hobby. If you had read or watched any of those guides, you would know everything in rooting depends on a device's bootloader status and how to learn the status of your own bootloader. Then you would've known where to begin in searching in XDA. XDA clearly states it is a site for development & developers, so question's that are covered in any of the thousands of beginner guides get met with harsh responses.
joshm.1219 said:
The thing is that we all were noobs once, but we didn't ask anyone to hold our hands. Unfortunately I can't say I believe you tried as hard as you say you did OP. I mean if your new to rooting, the first thing you should do is search google or youtube for a guide. That's a pretty basic realization all of us had when we learned about this hobby. If you had read or watched any of those guides, you would know everything in rooting depends on a device's bootloader status and how to learn the status of your own bootloader. Then you would've known where to begin in searching in XDA. XDA clearly states it is a site for development & developers, so question's that are covered in any of the thousands of beginner guides get met with harsh responses.
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We all have our beliefs and no one can argue but all I'm saying is that the only thing that stopped me was that I didn't know that the me7/mk2 build could not be flashed like I tries through Odin or goo manager or any of the other 10 ways I tried. But once I found out about safestrap it was all good money. And I thank everyone on here for the advice.
uhswrestler said:
We all have our beliefs and no one can argue but all I'm saying is that the only thing that stopped me was that I didn't know that the me7/mk2 build could not be flashed like I tries through Odin or goo manager or any of the other 10 ways I tried. But once I found out about safestrap it was all good money. And I thank everyone on here for the advice.
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Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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joshm.1219 said:
Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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joshm, we all get a bit perturb with new posters becasue we know if some rudimentary research was done on their part before they leaped into rooting and romming and all that, 90% of the problems would cease. I have taken dozens of PMs from people who were lost and I kept sending them to links that I was able to find in minutes of searching either the XDA forums or elsewhere. We do have the right to get a bit frustrated when we see post after post of why can't I do this or why can't I do that.
decaturbob said:
joshm, we all get a bit perturb with new posters becasue we know if some rudimentary research was done on their part before they leaped into rooting and romming and all that, 90% of the problems would cease. I have taken dozens of PMs from people who were lost and I kept sending them to links that I was able to find in minutes of searching either the XDA forums or elsewhere. We do have the right to get a bit frustrated when we see post after post of why can't I do this or why can't I do that.
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I've certainly done some stupid things and asked some obvious questions when I 1st hopped on xda. But I'd like to think I've settled in ok. Seems to me though this is just how it's going to be huh? You two know far more than I do and even I'm hopping on the q&a side and trying to help people like you do.
It would be nice to have stickys regarding all the really easy things like. ... No custom recovery for any Verizon S4 unless you're on MDK. Sadly I know many people won't read that either. Not 100% on exactly what it takes to create a sticky,obviously a mod has to, but that would be a start.
And I know the search function works awesome these days too! I think people get excited and are in a hurry to get flashing away and ask silly questions later when their S4 is stuck at the Verizon splash screen or bootlooping.
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joshm.1219 said:
Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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Hey no problems man i totally understand where you guys come from. But enjoy your day