Received my Prime 2 weeks ago. After finding device unusable due to lag I unlocked bootloader and installed custom ROM. Afetr a few days use I noticed really bad screen bleed on right side of unit due to what seems to be a slightly loosely fitted screen. I called for an RMA confident because I had read lots of stories on here about repairs for free after unlocking. Well its all BS here in the UK, they refused to repair for free, they want £40 for me to send it to Czech Republic, £60 to look at it then £100 for new motherboard to remove unlock (even tho i stated this isnt required they said they have to do it) and then an estimate of £100 to fix screen issue. £300 to repair a £500 item thats 10 days old. Basically, I will never buy an ASUS item ever again. shocking product, shocking service. Actually going to throw it in the bin........
Why not just take/send it back to the retailer?
"If there is an obvious fault with the item at any time within the first 6 months and it has not been caused by wear and tear or misuse, your first port of call must be the shop you bought it from. They have the responsibility to put the matter right, and should not evade this responsibility by referring you to the manufacturer in the context of a guarantee or warranty".
I bought it from VERY and they are saying that because I have unlocked it, it invalidates any form of warranty. They stated that if i had reported issue before unlocking it they could replace it but as I unlocked it I have to go through ASUS.
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I bought it from VERY and they are saying that because I have unlocked it, it invalidates any form of warranty. They stated that if i had reported issue before unlocking it they could replace it but as I unlocked it I have to go through ASUS.
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Tell them to sod off. Your unlocking agreement is between you and ASUS. It did not affect your relationship with the reseller in any way what so ever.
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Received my Prime 2 weeks ago. After finding device unusable due to lag I unlocked bootloader and installed custom ROM. Afetr a few days use I noticed really bad screen bleed on right side of unit due to what seems to be a slightly loosely fitted screen. I called for an RMA confident because I had read lots of stories on here about repairs for free after unlocking. Well its all BS here in the UK, they refused to repair for free, they want £40 for me to send it to Czech Republic, £60 to look at it then £100 for new motherboard to remove unlock (even tho i stated this isnt required they said they have to do it) and then an estimate of £100 to fix screen issue. £300 to repair a £500 item thats 10 days old. Basically, I will never buy an ASUS item ever again. shocking product, shocking service. Actually going to throw it in the bin........
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I just want to make sure I understand:
1) You unlocked your device and read the official and explicit disclaimers on voiding warranty if you were to proceed with unlocking.
2) You relied upon unofficial anecdotes by forum members suggesting they had success with warranty service despite unlocking.
3) You did not receive an second, official position on the issue from ASUS on unlocking bootloaders.
4) You took and accepted a risk in accepting the unofficial anecdotes that warranty service would be accepted with an unlocked bootloader, knowing full well that was not an official position of ASUS.
5) Your warranty has now been denied.
6) You're now blaming ASUS for poor service.
...Okay.
Sucky as it is that was the risk of unlocking...
But screen bleeding/loosy screen might be easily fixable by opening up your prime yourself (hey, warranty is gone anyway). Can't find the thread as fast but look around (and on youtube) for some guides on opening your prime and fixing lightbleed/wifi.
Forget what you have done - unless you believe that light bleed can be caused by software (if it can then I wonder if software can repair it). I understand that the ASUS warranty conditions are not enforceable in the US - there's an item on it on an Android web site (not a forum). Very are a significant mail order operation. Look at http://www.very.co.uk/help/en/online-help-system.page?choice=group&segment=789 and their statement:
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If any product we supply fails prematurely due to an inherent fault (manufacturing defect), we will provide you with an appropriate remedy e.g. repair, replacement, or refund. Just call us on 08448 222 321.
There is sufficient evidence on this site that light bleed is an inherent fault
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i got insurance on mine covering any accidental damage. Im not advocating fraud but there is incurance out there for tablets...
Depending on the retailer most places have a 14 day return policy (at least around here) for tablets or TV's and other specific items. Always inquire "If i have any defects with this product how long do i have to return it or replace it".
If there is a defect in the screen why tell them you unlocked it? "Hey, i want to replace / return this tablet" "Why" "Mura in the edge of the screen, the light bleed is getting pretty bad and its only getting worse over time"
Thats it. If they ask if its unlocked play dumb. "Idunno, its my brothers, i dont think so"
I dont know what to tell OP other than maybe try closing the ticket and starting a new RMA ticket with a different Asus rep maybe they will be more understanding? Screen bleed cant be caused by unlocking however you did void your warrenty they dont owe you anything.
Let this serve as a lesson to everyone, dont unlock unless your 110% happy with the hardware.
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i got insurance on mine covering any accidental damage. Im not advocating fraud but there is incurance out there for tablets...
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You are right.When I bought mine, as I knew about all the problems this tablet was having I also bought a 1 year insurance(can renew it for 1 more after after the first year) for £60, that covers pretty much everything that happens with the device, caused by myself or not, this service is available for every single electronic equipment bought in Sweden. Hope you have something like this in the UK as well.
I would keep trying with the retailer, unless you actually have them document something with your particular serial number and put a huge red flag on it that every employee will immediately see, I think you will be able to talk to the right person and have them do an exchange for a new one.
Thanks for all the replys guys. I called Trading Standards today and they basically told me VERY dont have a leg to stand on. Unlocked or not, all that does is invalidate contract with ASUS for warranty, under the SOGA very HAVE to replace it. I phoned them back and told them all this and they are still disagreeing!! Spoke to TS a second time and they told me to send it back with a letter telling them they have to replace it, and even linked me to a site to cut and paste some handy legal jargon for them!
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Why the Hell would you tell them its unlocked dumbass...
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Because Very needed to contact ASUS and during their call ASUS told them. Dumbass
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I just want to make sure I understand:
1) You unlocked your device and read the official and explicit disclaimers on voiding warranty if you were to proceed with unlocking.
2) You relied upon unofficial anecdotes by forum members suggesting they had success with warranty service despite unlocking.
3) You did not receive an second, official position on the issue from ASUS on unlocking bootloaders.
4) You took and accepted a risk in accepting the unofficial anecdotes that warranty service would be accepted with an unlocked bootloader, knowing full well that was not an official position of ASUS.
5) Your warranty has now been denied.
6) You're now blaming ASUS for poor service.
...Okay.
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Im blaming ASUS partly for releasing this laggy piece of **** that HAS to be unlocked to be usable. Im blaming them for wanting £300 and a trip to Czech Republic for repair. Im blaming them for stating they wouldnt repair just the screen at my cost without replacing motherboard at cost of £100 to remove lock. all on a two week old device! Screw the warranty, I knew what i was doing, I just find it ridiculous they want to make another £300 off me when realistically its a case of removing screen and refitting same screen correctly like they should have done in first place. Ten minutes work for them but justifiable at £300? I think not.
Just cause your happy with your product and service dude, doesnt mean we all have to be.
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Received my Prime 2 weeks ago. After finding device unusable due to lag I unlocked bootloader and installed custom ROM. Afetr a few days use I noticed really bad screen bleed on right side of unit due to what seems to be a slightly loosely fitted screen. I called for an RMA confident because I had read lots of stories on here about repairs for free after unlocking. Well its all BS here in the UK, they refused to repair for free, they want £40 for me to send it to Czech Republic, £60 to look at it then £100 for new motherboard to remove unlock (even tho i stated this isnt required they said they have to do it) and then an estimate of £100 to fix screen issue. £300 to repair a £500 item thats 10 days old. Basically, I will never buy an ASUS item ever again. shocking product, shocking service. Actually going to throw it in the bin........
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You unlocked it. That invalidates the warranty. You can't take what other people on the Internet say over what the unlocker says. Maybe they are charging you a whole bunch; you'd want to speak to their manager for info.
If you are going to throw it away just because of a light bleed, might as well ship it to me. I'd gladly take it off your hands.
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Thanks for all the replys guys. I called Trading Standards today and they basically told me VERY dont have a leg to stand on. Unlocked or not, all that does is invalidate contract with ASUS for warranty, under the SOGA very HAVE to replace it. I phoned them back and told them all this and they are still disagreeing!! Spoke to TS a second time and they told me to send it back with a letter telling them they have to replace it, and even linked me to a site to cut and paste some handy legal jargon for them!
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According to Very's website, they have to have it returned as is with everything intact. Unlocking it and installing a ROM is not 'as is' and would cost THEM money to undo what you did via unlocking, which means sending it back to Asus and costing them money.
We will replace or refund most items provided they are returned to us within 21 days of receipt complete, unused, in their original packaging and with any security tags intact.
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They aren't going to foot that bill.
If you really want to repair it, just do it yourself.
Additionally, getting a repair from them means going through Asus. If your warranty is invalidated in any way, they can't do that. You voided the warranty implied via the sale.
You're trying to game the system to have another company pay for repairs when you voided the one year warranty already.
to fix a good percentage of that screen bleed, all op has to do is open up tablet. then loosen the display screws. then retighten them slowly. several accounts of screen bleeds being fixed this way. screen bleed is likely from display screws being tightened to tight. there's a thread, by Erusman I believe, that details how to open prime up without messing anything up.
man they looks like alot of people been getting bad screens im surprised no one has not bought and extra prime switch screens and return the bad one lol i would not do that though lol just thinking lol :angel:
I complained to the FTC
I was just told (yesterday) that because I had unlocked my device my screen failure wouldn't be covered under warranty. They haven't even given me an RMA yet. They just looked it up in their DB and said it was unlocked so I was out of luck.
I filed a complaint with the FTC here in the US but I'm not expecting much.
I'm curious. Do you guys as Internet lawyers think you're smarter then Asus lawyers? Cause let's be honest, Asus lawyers wrote the agreement for unlocking, not some cs rep. None of you have a leg to stand on and the constant whining on this forum about unlocking and voiding your warranty and then Asus not covering it is tiring.
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According to Very's website, they have to have it returned as is with everything intact.
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I would suggest that this only refers to returning or exchanging the item. In this case, where the item is damaged / not fit for purpose, I believe the Sales of Good Act / Distance Selling Regulations apply and the OP is entitled to a replacement from VERY.
I think going with Trading Standards is a great idea and I'd be really interested to hear from the OP as to the results of their dealings with TS and VERY.
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Hey XDA friends
(i posted this on reddit an hour ago, but i think it will be read by more people here)
I have to let some steam off today...
TL;DR: worst customer support i have ever experienced!
Long story:
23.11.2011 ordered my prime via amazon 16.01.2012 received my wonderful Prime
in the first week the scratch resistant gorilla glass started to come off the bezel and lcd, on the top of the tablet. clearly being a manufacturing issue because the "glue-strip" holding it together was displaced on the top and on the side.
1.Feb: Contacting Amazon, they propose to send it directly to asus for faster repairing 1.Feb: ordering Asus Pick-up service 2.Feb: UPS fetches the package
so far so good. now the fun part starts:
7.Feb: checking online for repair-status. It sais: "Waiting for customer reply OOW-CID" (i had not received any mail or call) I called ASUS asking whats happening. They told me that i should have received a mail from the technician with an estimation of the costs. And it will be best to talk to him for any details regarding warranty issues. He will tell the technician to contact me again.
8.Feb.: writing an email to Asus customer support, explaining the issue and why it is not OOW CID (out of warranty, customer induced damage)
9.Feb: Support writes back: there will be an investigation, and in a few days they will make the desicion.
10.Feb.: i get a mail from the technician with the estimate of costs (95€ if i do nothing and have it sent back to me, 260€ to change the lcd) it was obvious the technician had not yet received the investigation mails from customer support
15.Feb: i send a copy of all my support mails to the technician explaining what is happening.
20.Feb: again mail to customer support that this is unacceptable and i will contact the Consumer Protection Board.
20.Feb: he answers: he hasn't heard back yet, and asks for more time.
23.Feb: 2 registered Letters (Amazon, Asus) telling them that they have 2 weeks for a satisfactory statement regarding this issue, until then the Consumer Protection Board will be informed.
29.Feb: Support supervisor writes to me that my Prime will be repaired free of charge. (warranty) the repair info site tells me "final testing"
2.Mar: the repair info site tells me: waiting for customer reply OOW-CID i write mail to the support supervisor.
2.Mar: he tells me i have to do nothing, they are waiting for a replacement part.
11.Mar: i mail him again asking for an update and if there is an estimate when i can get my tablet back. And that if they can't tell me when, maybe they shoult think about replacing the whole prime and send me a replacement.
It seems that the Transformer 700 series are out solving all Prime issues at the same Price. And i invested in a highend tablet in November not beeing able to no even touch it for more than one week!
Its now the 15.Mar. with no email or phone contact. WTF i just want to live in peace!
Maybe i can post this somewhere else where it has more impact ^
P.S.: If Asus reads this, please don't hesitate to contact me...
My only question would be, why did you send it off for repair in the first week of ownership as opposed to getting a replacement or refund?
At first i was contacting amazon.
They told me that they can't guarantee me a replacement item in the next months due to empty stocks etc. And suggested to send it in to Asus directly....
thats why
I received my Prime around the same time from Amazon. Had I needed service on it I probably still would've sent it back to them for a replacement, since they had more in stock and ready for shipping by the end of Jan.
It's all moot now...hope it comes back to you soon and properly working.
I will remember to opt for a slightly longer wait and full replacement / refund as opposed to "repairing" it. I'm often impatient with such things, so would have done the same you did and been even more screwed.
Its pathetic, you have purchased a device you can't use and its not your fault - its Asus' fault.
Hope you get it all sorted soon! I would be dieing waiting to get my tab back.
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PM Gary Key a link to this thread.
IMO this is categorically unacceptable. If this were MY employees fouling up my company's reputation like this someone would get a 1 month vacation w/o pay just as fast as I could find out who's responsible for this charlie foxtrot.
Unreal. One horror story after another. This whole thing has been a mess from the start. (not your situation, but everything involving the TP) I don't think I will be buying another ASUS product. Certainly not within the first 6 months of release...
Thanks for all the kind words!
I PMed Gary and i will post the updates
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Unreal. One horror story after another. This whole thing has been a mess from the start. (not your situation, but everything involving the TP) I don't think I will be buying another ASUS product. Certainly not within the first 6 months of release...
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Same here! It's horrible the product was so rushed its not funny I really hope a few people got fired because of choices they made to push this product.
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While no company gets it right 100% of the time, we are seeing some re-occuring themes in both the inconsistency of getting accurate information and the time taken to do actual repairs. You do tend to learn most about a company when something goes wrong. It seems pretty clear that the experience with Asus is pretty variable. It also seems to vary significantly from country to country. When I got my transformer repaired last year (for a faulty right speaker) I did have a pretty positive experience other than a minor lack of communication whereby Asus didn't pass on the delivery address to the courier company when they came to pick up the tablet (which delayed things by a day). The OP certainly hasn't been treated in a way that is consistent with their brand promise for 'persistent perfection'. They can't turn the clock back, but they can show they're learning. Many of the quality control issues that affected the original transformer was repeated with the Prime. So they better get it right with the future Pad 300, PadFone and Infinity models
However, regarding the transformer 700 (Transformer Pad Infinity). We've only seen the prototype that was shown off at CES, so we only know what is supposed to be fixed. Certainly, I can imagine in light of the issues with weak/more directional wi-fi and the ability of GPS that Asus would given these a lot more scrutiny. But who's to say at this point what issues (quality control related or otherwise) that the Infinity model is going to have. According to Asus on their UK facebook page, it won't be out until June at the earliest. Realistically, based on the availability of the original transformer and now the Prime that probably means July/August for actual physical stock. Also, based on what we know at this point, it won't be the same price as the Prime; there's $100 premium.
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Dont they only have 30 days to repair otherwise they HAVE to send a new one? I think it is part of their warranty.
OP: Out of curiosity... you didn't happen to send the unit in for repair in their Jeffersonville, IN facility did you?
I've had a few 'experiences' with that facility, and my suggestion to most people, is if they tell you to ship it to that facility, demand it be shipped to another. (keep escalating it if need be) The other repair facilities I've encountered zero problems in... Jeffersonville, on the other hand, seem to hire the Geek Squad rejects.
Upside is that from what I've gathered, Jeffersonville seems to be a 3rd party repair facility for ASUS... so while I blame them for keeping them employed, I don't blame ASUS's techs.
@ Shadowlore
OP: Out of curiosity... you didn't happen to send the unit in for repair in their Jeffersonville, IN facility did you?
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Nope, currently it's in the Czech Republic, Europe.
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Dont they only have 30 days to repair otherwise they HAVE to send a new one? I think it is part of their warranty.
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is this for real?? i don't think so otherwise i would have got one already. (if it works automatically)
What I'm asking is, will rooting void Samsung's warranty, or the 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy, or both? Cause I really wanna test CM9 for this. But I have Best Buy's 2 year extended warranty.
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What I'm asking is, will rooting void Samsung's warranty, or the 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy, or both? Cause I really wanna test CM9 for this. But I have Best Buy's 2 year extended warranty.
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Rooting will void Samsung's warranty. You can unroot the ROM so they will not notice in case you need service.
I ignore if you can go back to the stock kernel if you flash a new one, Samsung can just enter on CWM and that way they will know your warranty is screwed.
I have an extended warranty as well on Best Buy, and what they told me is that not matter what happens with the device, they will replace it with a new one in case you need it.
But, and this is a big BUT, we are talking about Best Buy, a screwed up company with sale associates that know next to nothing about what they sale, and you could be in a situation where you need to replace your device because you accidentally bricked it, and they will tell you that hacking is not covered under their extended warranty, even though someone else told you it does.
Weight your options. But my advice is: do it!. Root the damn thing, that way you will learn more, and if you brick it, then you could buy another one (hopefully). After all, these are cheap machines.
you'd just flash back to stock via odin and be done with it
So if i drop it and the screen cracks and its rooted with stock rom will i still be covered under bestbuy warranty or will i have to unroot
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So if i drop it and the screen cracks and its rooted with stock rom will i still be covered under bestbuy warranty or will i have to unroot
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I would unroot it first, Odin does that.
Thanks. How Good IS the CM9 Rom.???
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Thanks. How Good IS the CM9 Rom.???
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Several bugs. The camera, bluetooth, fm radio do not work. For me, it is unusable, but try it anyway.
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Several bugs. The camera, bluetooth, fm radio do not work. For me, it is unusable, but try it anyway.
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Thanks
SirRhor said:
Rooting will void Samsung's warranty. You can unroot the ROM so they will not notice in case you need service.
I ignore if you can go back to the stock kernel if you flash a new one, Samsung can just enter on CWM and that way they will know your warranty is screwed.
I have an extended warranty as well on Best Buy, and what they told me is that not matter what happens with the device, they will replace it with a new one in case you need it.
But, and this is a big BUT, we are talking about Best Buy, a screwed up company with sale associates that know next to nothing about what they sale, and you could be in a situation where you need to replace your device because you accidentally bricked it, and they will tell you that hacking is not covered under their extended warranty, even though someone else told you it does.
Weight your options. But my advice is: do it!. Root the damn thing, that way you will learn more, and if you brick it, then you could buy another one (hopefully). After all, these are cheap machines.
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The guy in a blue Polo was either misinformed or lying. Best Buy's extended service plans on electronics like phones/media players suck horribly. Ignoring the fact that they don't cover lost/stolen devices or devices that have been immersed in water (considered how vague that exclusion is, and how hard it would be for them to tell the difference in water damage from being splashed and being dunked, I'm guess you'll have an uphill battle getting any water damage covered). If you attempt to file a claim they WILL attempt to fix it first. Which means sending it off somewhere to sit on a shelf for weeks before a tech even looks a the thing. Only if the tech decides he can't fix it will you get a replacement, which is probably refurbished. If the tech thinks he's fixed it they'll send it back. I say think because if the problem is intermittent it's quite likely the tech will simply not notice the player is still broken.
If you can still cancel the service plan, you're better off getting you're money back. Honestly, extended warranties aren't worth the money. By their very nature you HAVE to get less financial benefit out of them then they cost, period. In order for the guy selling the warranty to make a profit you have to be on the losing end of the deal. Stick some money in the back to put towards a replacement, or you're next device if all goes well. If you still feel better with some kind of coverage, you should be able to get covered by Square Trade, or other 3rd party companies.
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The guy in a blue Polo was either misinformed or lying. Best Buy's extended service plans on electronics like phones/media players suck horribly. Ignoring the fact that they don't cover lost/stolen devices or devices that have been immersed in water (considered how vague that exclusion is, and how hard it would be for them to tell the difference in water damage from being splashed and being dunked, I'm guess you'll have an uphill battle getting any water damage covered). If you attempt to file a claim they WILL attempt to fix it first. Which means sending it off somewhere to sit on a shelf for weeks before a tech even looks a the thing. Only if the tech decides he can't fix it will you get a replacement, which is probably refurbished. If the tech thinks he's fixed it they'll send it back. I say think because if the problem is intermittent it's quite likely the tech will simply not notice the player is still broken.
If you can still cancel the service plan, you're better off getting you're money back. Honestly, extended warranties aren't worth the money. By their very nature you HAVE to get less financial benefit out of them then they cost, period. In order for the guy selling the warranty to make a profit you have to be on the losing end of the deal. Stick some money in the back to put towards a replacement, or you're next device if all goes well. If you still feel better with some kind of coverage, you should be able to get covered by Square Trade, or other 3rd party companies.
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I agree. Basically, that company sucks as a whole.
I HAD to get an extended warranty because I hard bricked my first Player, and when I try BB to "honor" their warranty, they told me I have 2 options, either send the device to Samsung and wait weeks for a new device to arrive, or they could make an exception for me if I pay $65 to get an Extended Warranty.
I payed them, they got me a new device and I still have a little less than a year of this bullcrap warranty left.
I was SO GLAD when I read BB have to close stores down across the country due to weak profits. I hope they will do much worse over time. </end rant>
I've actually had great experiences buying phones from them. I was able to get my razr for $100 less than what Verizon was selling it for. Before that I'd gotten the Droid incredible for $50 off, and a full three Weeks sooner than I would have gotten it from Verizon (Verizon was backordered a full month at that point). My gf got her Maxx for $150 from best buy, and got it 2 days later (versus atleast 2 Weeks).
That being said, their service is terrible, and I won't let the geek squad do any work for me if they were paying me their exorbitant labor rates. On the plus side, I was able to spend an hour and a half playing keyboards and guitars without a single employee acknowledging my existence. In my book that's s huge improvement from when their sales floor were on commission.
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I agree. Basically, that company sucks as a whole.
I HAD to get an extended warranty because I hard bricked my first Player, and when I try BB to "honor" their warranty, they told me I have 2 options, either send the device to Samsung and wait weeks for a new device to arrive, or they could make an exception for me if I pay $65 to get an Extended Warranty.
I payed them, they got me a new device and I still have a little less than a year of this bullcrap warranty left.
I was SO GLAD when I read BB have to close stores down across the country due to weak profits. I hope they will do much worse over time. </end rant>
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When I buy the warranty at bestbuy and I take it back they just ask me what's wrong with it and I just say it doesn't work and they give me two choices a full refund in a gift card or an exchange for one on their shelf and they send of the other
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Wow. Thanks guys for your experiences. Really means alot. Cause they're LOOOOONG. thanks.
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Contribution to the BB Tangent
I hate to add to the Best Buy meme on an Android forum, but thought it might be helpful in an ancillary way: I have a buddy who worked for the Geek Squad for years, him having a large amount of contracting experience through family (all the while he grew up) and about as much with electronics, so he built entertainment systems, did tv mounts, and was "the solutions guy" for customers who called with special needs and projects: was paid well too. (I despise them as much as anyone for exhorbitant pricing!)
He buys his laptops there still, because of the warranties (and perhaps a good credit line): he's that big clumsy oaf who will drop something a bunch, and thus far they have honored warranties even for drops that crack screens; he also seems to have that "luck" of laptops dying...one to three months before a warranty runs out (and he really isn't the type to kill one just to get another new--close enough, in fact, that he tells me about anything shady he does, and breaking laptops on purpose to take advantage of warranties isn't among things he'll do), and despite this having happened multiple times, they have honored those warranties: usually with newer model replacement computers too.
So depending on the store and terms, sometimes it can be worth looking into Best Buy: read everything carefully and compare. If you're paranoid about bad things happening to your devices, or have reason to believe something probably will. Or you can do like me, and talk the Lenovo reps 1200+ dollars off of the normal pricing, and then push beyond their lowest deals by explaining the problems with unclear marketing and deal offers, and then convince them to throw in a few upgrades for free. : D And insure elsewhere. Maybe I'll keep this in mind, however, and get his advice for you, if the guy isn't too busy right now.
Happy purchases.
I dont think rooting voids warranty..
As my s plus was repaired under warranty when i was on custom rom....
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unicorndust98 said:
What I'm asking is, will rooting void Samsung's warranty, or the 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy, or both? Cause I really wanna test CM9 for this. But I have Best Buy's 2 year extended warranty.
I have a Galaxy S3 with protection plan from Best Buy ($10 a month) with sprint service and I recently bricked my phone. I went to Best Buy and they was able to give me a new GS3 (refurbished) in about three days. With a $50 deposit I received a loaner phone (lower grade but still an android smartphone). My $50 was refunded at the return of the loaner phone. So I would say ROOT ROOT ROOT!!! it is so worth it! Why not experience the full features of your device? Just for the record....Best Buy's geek squad does not fix the phones on location in most cases so your phone has to be sent out. The way their company works is, as soon as your phone is in their computer system the factory sends out the refurbished phone. So in all actuality they never see your phone until your at home rooting the new one.....you are very welcome!
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty
SirRhor said:
Rooting will void Samsung's warranty. You can unroot the ROM so they will not notice in case you need service.
I ignore if you can go back to the stock kernel if you flash a new one, Samsung can just enter on CWM and that way they will know your warranty is screwed.
I have an extended warranty as well on Best Buy, and what they told me is that not matter what happens with the device, they will replace it with a new one in case you need it.
But, and this is a big BUT, we are talking about Best Buy, a screwed up company with sale associates that know next to nothing about what they sale, and you could be in a situation where you need to replace your device because you accidentally bricked it, and they will tell you that hacking is not covered under their extended warranty, even though someone else told you it does.
Weight your options. But my advice is: do it!. Root the damn thing, that way you will learn more, and if you brick it, then you could buy another one (hopefully). After all, these are cheap machines.
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Rooting does not void your warranty. I rooted my phone and bricked it. i have a Metro PCS galaxy mega 6.3. I called Samsung and informed them that i bout it second hand like this and i want it back to normal. They told me it is still under warranty and they will email me shipping labels. They fixed everything for free. I complained before they sent it back that Samsung's website says my Phone should have Kit Kat. So I told them that is false advertisement and that is wrong lol. Everyone on the internet says they only have gingerbread. Metro Pcs is the red headed step child of the mobile industry so they didn’t get the over the air update. I complained about this to Samsung and they informed me that they will be upgrading my Mega with Kit Kat. Don’t believe everything you see on the internet.
Hi,
I thought I'd ask on here to see if anyone knows what to do with this.
Basically I had to RMA my prime back in September 2012. To cut a long story short the repair centre essentially damaged my prime and it has been back and forth for that reason ever since. They've never repaired it.
Fast forward to now and they currently have it in hand for the six or seventh time and they've turned round and said the warranty has expired and so they don't have to do anything.
My question is this: If the issue arose within the warranty, was caused by them, was reported within the warranty period and they accepted that it was covered, does that not still come under the warranty? Regardless of whether it has lapsed.
I even gave concerns about sending it in again as the warranty was nearly up and they said that the work carried out is covered for 3 months. They now say that isn't the case.
I also pointed out to them that in the early part of 2012 I took them up on their offer of extending the warranty to 18 months in the UK for free. They say they no longer have the list.
Does anyone have any advice. I'm feeling very frustrated right now and they're going to try to charge me for sending it in. I feel conned right now.
Thanks
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If you registered the tfp with Asus then if you go to https://account.asus.com/product_list.aspx?lang=en-us (I'm not sure if that link will give a login screen to "my asus" - you could try this http://support.asus.com/warranty.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Eee%20Pad%20Transformer%20Prime%20TF201 and login and select "my registered products". If you click on the icon to the right of your tfp (blue circle with pen inside) you should then get a new screen with the words "You have activated warranty extension for this product."
If you are out of luck with that (I can't remember how Asus "issued" the extension to suggest other "evidence") then persuade them to ship it back to you free of charge. Having got it back schedule out the dates that the tfp has been away for repair, why you sent it and what repair was made, supporting if possible with documentation. and then go to the retailer that sold it and as nicely as possible say that you have had to come to them because the manufacturer has failed to repair it and you have been advised to bring it to them because in view of the cost and the age of the item it is not fit for the purpose for which it was sold. Google and read about Sale of Goods Act ( SOGA ) before the visit
Thank you for your response. All very useful information.
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I logged in and it does indeed say that the warranty extension is activated.
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You won't believe this.
I emailed them back to say that I've seen the warranty extension is activated. They just emailed me back and very nicely said that if I can prove that it says that they will happily escalate my case.
I just logged in again and it now says I don't have an active extended warranty!
Lucky I took a screen print.
I smell a court case.
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And guess what my machine now says "Enable warranty extension". I hope this is a transient error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can always use the Statutory Warranty that is at least 2 years across the EU/EEA (I understand you bought the tablet in UK). Remember that it is the Vendor that sold you the tablet is responsible for repairs in this case, not Manufacturer. This applies only if you bought it as an individual, not a company.
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/consumer_e
llothar said:
You can always use the Statutory Warranty that is at least 2 years across the EU/EEA (I understand you bought the tablet in UK). Remember that it is the Vendor that sold you the tablet is responsible for repairs in this case, not Manufacturer. This applies only if you bought it as an individual, not a company.
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/consumer_e
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I bought mine from Comet. They went in to administration last year. So, no hope there. I could take it up with my credit card company as a last ditch, under soga. I just really want ASUS to sort it out as a matter of principle.
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The Lumia 920, which I bought at Microsoft store back in February of this year, stopped charging via wireless. I took it to the Microsoft store to see what can be done (expecting Apple like treatment) and the store manager gave me 2 options:
1. To have the phone sent to Nokia for repairs - the warranty center will check the phone and let me know if the repair is within warranty.
2. Exchange the phone for a new one, but only if I buy a 2 years extended warranty for $99. He said he will wave the $50 replacement fee this time only.
I did go with option #2 and walked away with the new phone. The problem is that the new phone has a headphones jack issue - the sound only plays from the right headphone. I suspect if i take the phone back it will be exchanged for a new one outside of extended warranty.
So my question is: Did I make a mistake for buying the extended warranty? I have a feeling that this phone will be out of date (and possibly not supported by MSFT) before the 2 years extended warranty runs out. $99 is the 1/5 of the price of the new phone...
Thoughts?
You bought an extended warranty. That now covers the phone with the headphone issue. Your old phone no longer exist and everything is about the new one. That being said you should be able to get the new one fixed at no charge. I also think the MS store ripped you off. They should not be able to legally require you to buy an extended contract to get a phone replaced. Honestly I would fight this since we are dealing with a 600 USD phone here that should be replaced for free as long as it is with in warranty. Also does the extended warranty cover things like drops or water damage? If not then you wasted your money on the warranty. The AT&T extended warranty which cost an extra 9 bucks a month covers ANYTHING that can or could happen to phone rather accidental or on purpose for the length of the contract. I could drop it then back my car over it and they would replace it no questions asked.
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You bought an extended warranty. That now covers the phone with the headphone issue. Your old phone no longer exist and everything is about the new one. That being said you should be able to get the new one fixed at no charge. I also think the MS store ripped you off. They should not be able to legally require you to buy an extended contract to get a phone replaced. Honestly I would fight this since we are dealing with a 600 USD phone here that should be replaced for free as long as it is with in warranty. Also does the extended warranty cover things like drops or water damage? If not then you wasted your money on the warranty. The AT&T extended warranty which cost an extra 9 bucks a month covers ANYTHING that can or could happen to phone rather accidental or on purpose for the length of the contract. I could drop it then back my car over it and they would replace it no questions asked.
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That was the first option he was offered from the store. They do not have to replace the device on the spot, they are allowed to send it in for repair. At least, that's how our law in germany is, not sure about other countries.
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That was the first option he was offered from the store. They do not have to replace the device on the spot, they are allowed to send it in for repair. At least, that's how our law in germany is, not sure about other countries.
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Unless Germany is just strange, there really is no law that dictates this. It is just what most have accepted as the norm and so the businesses use such policies becuase they can and no one knows better. As the paying customer you have a right to decide ho it is handled if it is under warranty. Typically you just ask then to give you a new phone on the spot and then they do whatever with the bad one. The usually will send it in for repair then sell it as a refurbished unit. Sometimes rather than a new phone they will offer you a refurb which many times is better becuase it has all the known issue of a new unit fixed.
Of course this all does not really matter now as what done is done but in the future, as a paying customer it helps to know your rights and not to let the business take you for a ride.
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Unless Germany is just strange, there really is no law that dictates this. It is just what most have accepted as the norm and so the businesses use such policies becuase they can and no one knows better. As the paying customer you have a right to decide ho it is handled if it is under warranty.
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This is definatelly not true for germany. In germany Law dictates that the customer has to allow the seller/manufacturer to fix a broken device or item 3 times in a reasonable ammount of time. Court orders have proven that this means a shop can send the item in for repair and is not forced to either give you a brand new phone or a "rental" unit. He can also offer you to nullify the sales contract and refund you (note: offer, not force). If the seller decides to replace the phone, he still is not forced to replace it on the spot but in a reasonable ammount of time it takes for a replacement unit to arrive. If the seller/manufacturer fails to deliver a fully working product after the third try (note that the law does not explicitly state "third try" or "three times" but again uses the wording "reasonable" - which courts have often ruled to be three or four times) you can demand he refunds you the full price of the item.
EDIT: I can also not believe that other countries, including the US, can by law force the seller to replace the item on the spot. It's simply not reasonable as it would require the seller to keep a sufficient stock of devices in storage he can effectively not sell to customers as they need to be held back for "replacements".
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This is definatelly not true for germany. In germany Law dictates that the customer has to allow the seller/manufacturer to fix a broken device or item 3 times in a reasonable ammount of time. Court orders have proven that this means a shop can send the item in for repair and is not forced to either give you a brand new phone or a "rental" unit. He can also offer you to nullify the sales contract and refund you (note: offer, not force). If the seller decides to replace the phone, he still is not forced to replace it on the spot but in a reasonable ammount of time it takes for a replacement unit to arrive. If the seller/manufacturer fails to deliver a fully working product after the third try (note that the law does not explicitly state "third try" or "three times" but again uses the wording "reasonable" - which courts have often ruled to be three or four times) you can demand he refunds you the full price of the item.
EDIT: I can also not believe that other countries, including the US, can by law force the seller to replace the item on the spot. It's simply not reasonable as it would require the seller to keep a sufficient stock of devices in storage he can effectively not sell to customers as they need to be held back for "replacements".
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I never said it was a law, but buyers right. They do not have to replace it on the spot unless the customer asks to do so. Most don't becuase they do not know they have that right. So no a store does not keep stock becuase they very rarely have to replace a phone on the spot.
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I never said it was a law, but buyers right.
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If it is not in the law, how can it be buyers right? There has to be a law governing the rights and dutys of all parties involved in a purchase.
So I was wanting to take my carbon case off and rock this beautiful phone naked. But knowing that this is a pretty slippery device, I figured I would need to know how much a cracked screen repair service costs in the unfortunate event that I do drop and crack it. I got on a phone call with a Google CS rep and he told me that Google does not repair screens, and gave me the hotline number to Huawei's CS. I then called Huawei and the rep told me that they do not offer any repair services to the device unless it was covered under Nexus Protect. I then told if I crack my screen just to take it to a local repair shop. Well, that was unexpected.. I've never heard a phone manufacturer not offer a cracked screen repair service, especially with how often people crack their screens.
So I figured maybe the rep was uninformed, as many of them are, and I decided to call again. Another rep confirmed that they absolutely will not repair any device that is not covered under Nexus Protect. Still in disbelief, I decided to chat up Google one more time. Below I've attached a screenshot of the conversation.
Honestly, this is ridiculous. We can't even PAY to get our screens replaced if they do happen to shatter. And there is no way to get Nexus Protect unless you order a new phone and add it on at the time of purchase. I always stay loyal to the Nexus line, and I have never cracked a screen before (my friends cracked my Nexus One's screen though).. but knowing that if by chance I do crack my screen my only option is to bring it to a local repair shop (assuming they even fix 6P's), purchase a new phone, or deal with it (yeah right), this makes me uneasy.
Thoughts?
Seems like this is just a big mess with google. They are great with software but on hardware they have no fu#king clue how things work. Do they even think of all these scenarios before making a product?
Agreed this seems ridiculous, however I myself have never paid anyone to replace,always done it myself. But most repair shops I had talked to seem reliable. Also check out your local college. At San Jose state our tech repair is on top of it on screen repair.
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badboy47 said:
Seems like this is just a big mess with google. They are great with software but on hardware they have no fu#king clue how things work. Do they even think of all these scenarios before making a product?
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magestic1995 said:
Agreed this seems ridiculous, however I myself have never paid anyone to replace,always done it myself. But most repair shops I had talked to seem reliable. Also check out your local college. At San Jose state our tech repair is on top of it on screen repair.
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Honestly, I'm considering Squaretrade.. I just don't know the specifics on how they operate. I really don't want to return my Nexus and reorder another one. And I'm not sure about the actual quality of the repair shops around my area, but if forced to I will have to utilize them.
I don't see the issue. Most manufacturers do warranty repairs (usually through an outsourced contract) but often do not do paid for non warranty work. They push you to their approved repairer network,
Not sure what you are getting bent out of shape for, its pretty normal, not out of the ordinary at all. Just get a 3rd party policy if you are concerned and don't want to just pay an approved repairer if the worst should happen.
For example in the US http://www.technocare.ae/devices-repaired/huawei-phone-repairs/
400ixl said:
I don't see the issue. Most manufacturers do warranty repairs (usually through an outsourced contract) but often do not do paid for non warranty work. They push you to their approved repairer network,
Not sure what you are getting bent out of shape for, its pretty normal, not out of the ordinary at all. Just get a 3rd party policy if you are concerned and don't want to just pay an approved repairer if the worst should happen.
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The problem is there is no approved repair network. There is nothing offered at all unless you purchased Nexus Protect. I've honestly never heard of a phone manufacturer that doesn't offer a repair service, so I don't think it's unreasonable to be shocked. But like I said, I'm going to consider Squaretrade.
LG, Samsung, Sony all push you to their approved repairer network, and don't undertake paid repair work themselves. Only warranty repairs go through them, but thats subcontracted and just processed by them. At the very most they broker the request.
Don't confuse a warranty repair with a non warranty repair.
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Agreed this seems ridiculous, however I myself have never paid anyone to replace,always done it myself. But most repair shops I had talked to seem reliable. Also check out your local college. At San Jose state our tech repair is on top of it on screen repair.
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Have you guys even seen the teardown on this phone? Repairing a cracked screen is NOT easy and quite risky for one to do on their own. For details, check out iFixit: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6P+Teardown/51660
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Unlike other phones we've seen lately, there's no discrete display assembly or easily removed rear cover here. Instead, the 6P's internals come out of the rear case in one mega-sized component assembly, leaving only the NFC antenna behind.
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The display assembly cannot be replaced without tunneling through the entire phone. This makes one of most common repairs, a damaged screen, difficult to accomplish.
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The back cover itself is not easy to get off, and once you do, it comes off by itself, leaving almost everything else behind. You then have to disconnect all the internals from the screen, and then put it all back in the new screen. Ugh.
Before I let a third-party repair shop touch my 6P, I'd need to understand exactly what their policy is if they break anything in the process...
400ixl said:
LG, Samsung, Sony all push you to their approved repairer network, and don't undertake paid repair work themselves. Only warranty repairs go through them, but thats subcontracted and just processed by them. At the very most they broker the request.
Don't confuse a warranty repair with a non warranty repair.
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Hm, if that is the norm then I did not know. I know Apple (obviously) and Moto offers repair services, and I thought all others did too since a Google rep before told me that LG would fix a broken Nexus 5 screen if need be. I did not know that repair services not being offered was usual for manufacturers
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I don't see the issue. Most manufacturers do warranty repairs (usually through an outsourced contract) but often do not do paid for non warranty work. They push you to their approved repairer network,
Not sure what you are getting bent out of shape for, its pretty normal, not out of the ordinary at all. Just get a 3rd party policy if you are concerned and don't want to just pay an approved repairer if the worst should happen.
For example in the US http://www.technocare.ae/devices-repaired/huawei-phone-repairs/
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This whole thing with Google and Huawei is a mess. And someone mentioned that Google stated (although I am not saying this is true, I just heard this from another Nexus 6P customer that Huawei will be responsible for all warranty repairs) so good luck with that mess if it is true.
Yes, warranty repairs they will be, they have never declared they would not. Your point being?
This topic is about NON warranty repairs. If you break your screen, even in the warranty period, it is not Huawei's responsibility to repair it for you.
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Ngo93 said:
Hm, if that is the norm then I did not know. I know Apple (obviously) and Moto offers repair services, and I thought all others did too since a Google rep before told me that LG would fix a broken Nexus 5 screen if need be. I did not know that repair services not being offered was usual for manufacturers
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Both Motorola and LG broker the repair for you through their approved repair network. They don't repair it themselves.
For example, if you bought a phone through a carrier, they will point you to the carrier to get it done through the approved repair network them rather than Motorola or LG. That is the norm for manufacturers.
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Yes, warranty repairs they will be, they have never declared they would not. Your point being?
This topic is about NON warranty repairs. If you break your screen, even in the warranty period, it is not Huawei's responsibility to repair it for you.
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Both Motorola and LG broker the repair for you through their approved repair network. They don't repair it themselves.
For example, if you bought a phone through a carrier, they will point you to the carrier to get it done through the approved repair network them rather than Motorola or LG. That is the norm for manufacturers.
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Well what was surprising for me is that they just said you're out of luck and to just find a local repair shop. Getting directed to their official repair network is fine, but just hearing that they don't have one available unless you purchase Nexus Protect was shocking. Thanks for informing me that this is normal though, I didn't think it was normal to not have a repair service available if needed. Just wish I could add on Nexus Protect at this point..
Not giving you advice to use their approved repair network was indeed poor. Perhaps you would have got a better answer had you been actually trying to get a repair done rather than just enquiring.
Hopefully in that circumstance they would get their act together.
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Not giving you advice to use their approved repair network was indeed poor. Perhaps you would have got a better answer had you been actually trying to get a repair done rather than just enquiring.
Hopefully in that circumstance they would get their act together.
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I would hope so too, but it doesn't seem like it will ever be an option. I guess rocking my phone naked is not an option anymore haha.
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Honestly, I'm considering Squaretrade.. I just don't know the specifics on how they operate. I really don't want to return my Nexus and reorder another one. And I'm not sure about the actual quality of the repair shops around my area, but if forced to I will have to utilize them.
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Squaretrade is good.
I have used them for other items.
I had a Samsung camera that they replaced with a refurb.
I had a Nexus 7 that was covered and about a week before the two year Squaretrade warranty expired it died.
I sent it in and about 1.5 weeks later they send me a check saying it was not repairable and they had no replacement.
I like ST. I went with Nexus Protect on this phone because it was easy.
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Squaretrade is good.
I have used them for other items.
I had a Samsung camera that they replaced with a refurb.
I had a Nexus 7 that was covered and about a week before the two year Squaretrade warranty expired it died.
I sent it in and about 1.5 weeks later they send me a check saying it was not repairable and they had no replacement.
I like ST. I went with Nexus Protect on this phone because it was easy.
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So did they offer to give you a payout for the device since they couldn't repair it?
I asked the Squaretrade rep on the phone if they would ever try to give me a different phone instead of my original and she said sometimes they will offer me a different phone, but if I don't want that phone they will pay me the full price of my Nexus 6P. Have you ever experienced this before? I'm just wondering it it really is that smooth as me rejecting the different device and getting a full payout.
They paid out my Nexus 7 without me asking.
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They paid out my Nexus 7 without me asking.
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Oh nice. Thanks for your input. I've been trying to look up reviews to see how reliably they are
I'm doing square trade it's only 4 bucks a month with a $75 deductible and you can cancel any time
Trying to understand what is so shocking to everyone. I feel the first thing everyone should read is the warranty itself http://www.gethuawei.com/warranty which I found interesting. Says among other things, even an accident is not covered, along with cosmetic issues (dents, scratches). So everyone who has a thread where there is a dent here or there and doing RMA's says a lot about Google standing up for this product. They really could be jerks an say its not covered at all. This is a subject that should be talked about a year from now when all the warranties are running out not less than a month into the release and with a hypothetical situation. I don't think that anyone who turns a phone in under warranty gets it repaired, you get a "new" phone (either new or refurbished).
For out of warranty work, as with most everything now a days, there isn't a huge network of repair stores, you end up taking it to a shop that specializes in that area or work. I don't recall seeing a Samsung repair store ever, I have seen "authorized" repair services, but never have used them much as most stuff lasts long enough to the point where buying a new one is cheaper than attempting a repair. And looking at that Youtube about the take down of this phone, this one will be a doozy to repair. Bottom line, get third party insurance if you are that worried it is going to break and to cover the accidents. Don't have Nexus Protect here, but soon will be getting a third party insurance just in case.