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D101 GPS Fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846156
Now you can fix everything! Full stock flash.
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Full recovery package for DI01
[ODIN] Full DI01 ODIN Package
Since this is a sticky and is the first thing most visitors will see when they go looking for instructions PLEASE be sure to define all terms or link to a good description or or instructions. I know some of them since my old phone is a G1 running CM 6.0 but there are some new terms here and I am having to hunt down definitions before I can start to root my new Verizon Fascinate and install roms.
Example:
What is root? (hopefully people know this one but it can't hurt)
What is Clockwork? (I used to use this on my G1)
What is Voodoo?
What is Lagfix?
What is Odin?
What is D101?
What is DJ05?
What is TELUS?
alwaysthere said:
Since this is a sticky and is the first thing most visitors will see when they go looking for instructions PLEASE be sure to define all terms or link to a good description or or instructions. I know some of them since my old phone is a G1 running CM 6.0 but there are some new terms here and I am having to hunt down definitions before I can start to root my new Verizon Fascinate and install roms.
Example:
What is root? (hopefully people know this one but it can't hurt)
What is Clockwork? (I used to use this on my G1)
What is Voodoo?
What is Lagfix?
What is Odin?
What is D101?
What is DJ05?
What is TELUS?
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uuhhh this please
fupamobile said:
uuhhh this please
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DI01 was the first maintence release update for the Fascinate. If you are stock, this is most likely what you are running.
DJ05 was a leaked maintenance release that was never actually released, but fixed many bugs, including the GPS for most
DL09 is the current maintenance release that was leaked, but should be rolling out OTA soon. By most accounts, there isn't much difference between this and the previous leak.
TELUS is a Canadian service provider which also has a Samsung Galaxy S device named the Fascinate, but TELUS is a GSM carrier. Ideally, TELUS should have named their device after the Vibrant, as it is closer in hardware to that variant.
You should make it a bit more clear that posts concerning questions should be posted in the General Section instead of the Dev section.
If there is no effort being made to keep this infomation up to date then this really doesnt need to be stickied as its relevance has ceased importance other than confuse people with outdated information
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djblu said:
If there is no effort being made to keep this infomation up to date then this really doesnt need to be stickied as its relevance has ceased importance other than confuse people with outdated information
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Instead of making a negative post, why didn't you just add to the thread with updates etc.
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Instead of making a negative post, why didn't you just add to the thread with updates etc.
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It's not a negative, it's relevant. I'm not going to further compound an already confusing situation. If it's stickied, it's the responsibility of whoever started it to maintain that thread. There's no reason to sticky a thread that is out of date or no longer valid. The updates should be made to the OP and replace the outdated information.
... but thanks for your opinion, I'll take that into consideration.
A friend just bought a Fascinate and I'm having a hell of a time finding up to date info. Everything I seem to find leads back to the same link this leads to for rooting. The post for one click root that apparently is too old. Is there a new method to gain root on this phone?
Can anyone tell me how I can make a backup of my OS either turn it into a MD5 or zip file?
I mean like the ones that are used to return to stock or upgrade to a newer version.
Thanks in advance.
there is a app called odin maker that will allow you to backup your os as a .tar file.
Hello....
So i found a guy on craigslist to trade my Droid 2 for the Fasicnate, drove thirfty miles to his house and listend to him freak out for 35 mins as i explained the benifits of my droid 2 and it being rooted and he seriously begain hyperventelating because he was dead straight afraid of being arrested........ I was about to just.... i dont know, the word run came to mind... Anyway.
WHat a beautiful phone, i mean it you guys have got something here, and im glad i added this to my growing list of android device's this is my fifth since my first love The G1.
Anyways,
I presumed and though i could install Cyanogenmod on it that was the immediant reason i got it, i didnt do any reaseachr and now know that u can but it runs really ruff and isnt supported... so.
I modded via this cyanogen wiki
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Samsung_Fascinate:_Rooting
i got all the way to the part about installing rom manager and flashing CWM,
However i went to do this (yes im rooted) and all i get is when i flash cwm and i try to reboot into cwm from rom manager to make a backup is i get to the samsung 2e recovery screen ..
A little more research i see something that i need to install or excuse me i need a program called odin, and i need the cwm packaged via this thread but the CWM package is no longer hosted...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788099
But, one im not completly sure that is what i need to do and two im seein what i think is a bunch of diff versions of baseband like D101 ect However i see on mine that the last of my baseband is Dh12 actually its all s:i500.04 v.dh12
SHould i be downgrading here? And its best to assume while i have rooted and taken the virginity of the G1, Eris, Droid, Droid 2 Droid X and now this beyond what i have described here is my limited experience with this phone.
Also bear in mind that this phone was factory reset when i got it, and was 100% virgin. It is now rooted but that is it. I really wanted to get back to "my roots" like my G1 and have a fully modable phone from kernal on up and was stoked to get this. But im lost and i cant seem to find much help else where, or what appears to be people telling me to reroot and i know that is incorrect.
Can you all point me in the right direction please!
My sincere apprecation and thanks for your help and acceptace of my sporatic typeing.
Don't have a chance to read this atm but before you get flamed..you should post this in the general or Q and A section instead..
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SCH-I500 - EC10-EC01/Nemesis 1.3ghz OTB-Reloaded/Voodoo/Crysis Revolution/Zeam Launcher
Samsung Drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238
Odin: http://www.mediafire.com/?ufyp2mx2fiaskkc
Older recovery CWM2.5 (migrating to 3 slowly): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
New recovery CWM3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
List of Roms and Kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312
List of Themes: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922455
Search the forum for a guide. They exist. Cyanogen mod 6 is running fine lacking only a couple medium features. 7 is in alpha. Prepare to get flamed for posting in the wrong section.
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Instructions.
First, welcome to the Fascinate forums. Second, please try to faimilariaze yourself with the rules here. This thread should have gone in Q&A and you are quite likely to get flamed for it eventually.
As for your questoin-- We don't have a fully functioning AOSP, CM6, or 7 yet but what we have is pretty close. If you can live without MMS, Camcorder, and BT headset then you should give one them a shot. If not, stick with one of the Touchwiz builds such as Nitro's Evil Fascination or Adrylnalyn's Superclean.
Nitro has linked you to all the necessary software. As for using Odin, please reference this thread.
nitroglycerine33 said:
Samsung Drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238
Odin: http://www.mediafire.com/?ufyp2mx2fiaskkc
Older recovery CWM2.5 (migrating to 3 slowly): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
New recovery CWM3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
List of Roms and Kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312
List of Themes: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922455
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Nitro always looking out! One of our most valuable members I might add.
I would strongly reccommebd flashing Nitro's Evil Fascination Froyo rom and perhaps one of his themes once you get that far. You won't regret it. Trust me. Super sexy and super fast and he's very friendly and knowledgable. Keeps all his work updated on a regular basis too. Good luck and congrats on your new Fascinate!
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Got all the links you could ever ask for from nitro. Just install Odin on your comp and install the Samsung drivers. Then just go to the link for the older cwm and d/l the necessary file.
Remove battery from the phone and while you're holding the volume down.button plug the phone into.your.computer. it'll show a yellow android and say downloading.
Click PDA and choose the file you downloaded for cwm 2.5 and click start. Once it.says pass on Odin you're done.
Even easier, get one of the packagaes from one of these threads it includes adryns froyo rom, the modem for.froyo and the recovery. I don't feel like finding the link but if you get that it's easy its just one big file that you flash with Odin (the same.way you do with cwm) and when its done you got a froyo fascinate with a solid touchwiz rom from adryn
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Nitro thank you for all the links that saved me a lot of searching. And everyone else ty for your help.
As for the flaming i could care less it shows lack of maturity and what someone wants to bash me for is simply a waste of time. I dont care what some moron in his moms basement who is jumping from tab to tab from porn, to there wow or pokemon fetish and XDA. One would hope because of the intregrity here they would get banned.. Anywho.
And lastly the reason for posting here is because i didnt figure that the forum mentioned was classified for my question because it has nothing to do with "general" and everything to do with "development".. So, my apoligies if i was wrong and ill attempt to look a little better next time.
Thank you.
Mortland said:
Nitro thank you for all the links that saved me a lot of searching. And everyone else ty for your help.
As for the flaming i could care less it shows lack of maturity and what someone wants to bash me for is simply a waste of time. I dont care what some moron in his moms basement who is jumping from tab to tab from porn, to there wow or pokemon fetish and XDA. One would hope because of the intregrity here they would get banned.. Anywho.
And lastly the reason for posting here is because i didnt figure that the forum mentioned was classified for my question because it has nothing to do with "general" and everything to do with "development".. So, my apoligies if i was wrong and ill attempt to look a little better next time.
Thank you.
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Hey Mortland,
Welcome to these forums. I am still fairly new here at XDA. Just to clarify and help you understand what everyone was referring to. I believe if I read them correctly, the rules about the Development section say posts and especially new threads in the development section should be limited to things that are directly related to development of a ROM, kernel, or MOD. This is so the development forum is used for improvements to existing ROMs, kernels, or MODS, or development of new ROMS, kernels, or MODS so the developers doing this work do not have to wade through a laundry list of threads or non-development questions in order to get the information they need. So if you have questions about development, or want to report a bug or problem you have discovered with a ROM, kernel, or MOD, then you come here and post. If it is a question on how to install or use a ROM, kernel, or MOD, then I guess it is supposed to go over in the Q&A section. I know it can seem kind of confusing, so the only reason for me posting is to hopefully help clear up any of the confusion. Hope this has helped, and definitely follow nitrogliceryne's advice and help. Good luck.
Mods and devs,
Sorry if this long post has cluttered things up even more. Just trying to help.
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Hey Mortland,
Welcome to these forums. I am still fairly new here at XDA. Just to clarify and help you understand what everyone was referring to. I believe if I read them correctly, the rules about the Development section say posts and especially new threads in the development section should be limited to things that are directly related to development of a ROM, kernel, or MOD. This is so the development forum is used for improvements to existing ROMs, kernels, or MODS, or development of new ROMS, kernels, or MODS so the developers doing this work do not have to wade through a laundry list of threads or non-development questions in order to get the information they need. So if you have questions about development, or want to report a bug or problem you have discovered with a ROM, kernel, or MOD, then you come here and post. If it is a question on how to install or use a ROM, kernel, or MOD, then I guess it is supposed to go over in the Q&A section. I know it can seem kind of confusing, so the only reason for me posting is to hopefully help clear up any of the confusion. Hope this has helped, and definitely follow nitrogliceryne's advice and help. Good luck.
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+1
Mods and devs,
Sorry if this long post has cluttered things up even more. Just trying to help.
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It's very helpful to Mortland and very much bear repeating within the thread as the OP was not able to comprehend these thing from the forum the stickies.
beray5 said:
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It's very helpful to Mortland and very much bear repeating within the thread as the OP was not able to comprehend these thing from the forum the stickies.
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Thanks beray5
landshark68 said:
Thanks beray5
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Thx, for your Concern like always Shark.
But can you stop brining this thread Very Top :]
From now on, just no one answer it. So it gets buried away or Mod erases it.
xHoLyx said:
Thx, for your Concern like always Shark.
But can you stop brining this thread Very Top :]
From now on, just no one answer it. So it gets buried away or Mod erases it.
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Can't we just request that MOD move it to the Q&A section? Especially since some good links were posted there? No sense being a wanker about it, except that it can be fun if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
I know it makes all the "experienced" users feel good to bash every new guy that posts in the Development Thread but something really should have occurred to the community at large by now:
If this is happening something like 15 times per day, maybe the thread title should be renamed to Developers ONLY or Not for Q&A (or something like that)...although I'm kind of guessing that it's an auto-naming thing that they have set up for each new device that gets listed on the forums, so that might not be an option.
Usually I'm not very into getting threads moved when they're placed where they are but this thread is just straight ridiculous. Hyperventilating, seriously?
We need to have some sort of HTML implemented that allows any user to click the button and flag the thread for being moved. Not flagged for being inappropriate or reporting, just flagged for need of being moved to another section.
Black screen with Galaxy SCH-i500
nitroglycerine33 said:
Samsung Drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238
Odin: http://www.mediafire.com/?ufyp2mx2fiaskkc
Older recovery CWM2.5 (migrating to 3 slowly): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
New recovery CWM3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
List of Roms and Kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312
List of Themes: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922455
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Was trying to reimage this phone using Odin v1.3 a usb malfunction error message came up Ive been trying to use it to several computers since then, but the same message kept coming up and of course the odin could recognise the devise and i went up turn the phone on normally all i have is a black screen with a phone and yellow explanation and computer logos on the screen the explanation sign is in between the phone and computer logos and now I can not do anything with this phone...I think my only option is for somebody to help me to find some image that will run on the SD card instead of the USB port.
Please help!
Thank you!
jrg1319 said:
Was trying to reimage this phone using Odin v1.3 a usb malfunction error message came up Ive been trying to use it to several computers since then, but the same message kept coming up and of course the odin could recognise the devise and i went up turn the phone on normally all i have is a black screen with a phone and yellow explanation and computer logos on the screen the explanation sign is in between the phone and computer logos and now I can not do anything with this phone...I think my only option is for somebody to help me to find some image that will run on the SD card instead of the USB port.
Please help!
Thank you!
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Hey there guy,,, sure looks like you have been doing some reading and searching ,, just maybe not the most up to date information...
You need to look in this [Guide]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17050028
It has The answers, info and links I believe you need to get to over the hump...
Sometimes it may help to print those instructions and cross off steps as you do them,, to make sure you don't accidentally overlook anything
Good luck
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First off I see on this forum that people freak the hell out when you post something that may possibly have been posted at one point in the past, so let me assure you I've searched this forum and the internet in general looking for help with this problem, and found nothing helpful.
I read the FAQ, and the sections here:
I've rooted now why do I have an exclamation point on my loading screen?
Anytime you flash a non-stock kernel in download mode this will appear.
Work around method by Entropy512 to eliminate the exclamation on boot screen
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Which linked me to a page that said:
Flash the stock kernel using Odin or Heimdall. Since this kernel autoroots the system image, you'll retain root.
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Where do I get a stock Kernel? How exactly do I do this?
Then the next step says something that is completely greek to me, it doesn't seem to have much to do with fixing the Yellow Triangle problem.
I also scoured the internet looking for a fix and most of it involves the International version of the phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'd love to get rid of that annoying little triangle.
Try a jig
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From my understanding I rooted this device and got it after root. Even though I retained stock ROM
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JCDwight said:
First off I see on this forum that people freak the hell out when you post something that may possibly have been posted at one point in the past, so let me assure you I've searched this forum and the internet in general looking for help with this problem, and found nothing helpful.
I read the FAQ, and the sections here:
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No, you clearly did not read the FAQ and all stickies in this forum as one should do whenever posting to a forum on the Internet, since not only is your question answered in the FAQ, there's an entire guide as a separate sticky post at the top of this forum!
this will get rid of the yellow triangle but will not reset the counter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18608050&postcount=6
but do yourself a favor and buy this...JIG
http://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-Don...73JQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323036982&sr=8-1
it'll clear the YT and reset the counter.
This is the sticky you dont want to miss
Entropy512 said:
No, you clearly did not read the FAQ and all stickies in this forum as one should do whenever posting to a forum on the Internet, since not only is your question answered in the FAQ, there's an entire guide as a separate sticky post at the top of this forum!
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I absolutely DID read the FAQ.
My question is not answered in the FAQ, and if you would have read it, you'd know that.
I've looked at every sticky in the forum, the one at the top does not address this.
Can I get a link to the sticky? If it's the one posted below that doesn't help me either. I've already rooted and installed Cyanogen 7 on my phone, now all I need to do is get rid of the yellow triangle
I mean, would it have taken you as long to help me out as it did to come on here and yell at me? I read over the forums for hours, did google searches, so I came here.
Isn't this a place to get help? If so, why are there dickheads just trying to **** in your cereal here?
Thank you Defnow, that was extremely helpful.
It worked, I now have a splash screen with no triangle, but unfortunately it doesn't get any further than that. I now just have a black screen after the spash screen. Any ideas on how to remedy this?
Will using a jig get rid of the ROM and kernel I already have flashed onto my phone, or will it just remove the YT and reset the counter? I've been curious about this for a while now.
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Will using a jig get rid of the ROM and kernel I already have flashed onto my phone, or will it just remove the YT and reset the counter? I've been curious about this for a while now.
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Just yt and counter. Won't touch anything else.
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Will using a jig get rid of the ROM and kernel I already have flashed onto my phone, or will it just remove the YT and reset the counter? I've been curious about this for a while now.
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Only the yt and it will reset the counter.
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Please use the new ZergRush method to root your phone. It's much safer and does not require kernel swap or flash anything. It will not show YT because you didn't flash anything at all.
As for OP, you need read MUCH more before start doing things like flashing ROM or kernel. Take any shortcut will only put you in a fast track to brick(ed) land which from what I saw is exactly where you are now.
JCDwight said:
I absolutely DID read the FAQ.
My question is not answered in the FAQ, and if you would have read it, you'd know that.
I've looked at every sticky in the forum, the one at the top does not address this.
Can I get a link to the sticky? If it's the one posted below that doesn't help me either. I've already rooted and installed Cyanogen 7 on my phone, now all I need to do is get rid of the yellow triangle
I mean, would it have taken you as long to help me out as it did to come on here and yell at me? I read over the forums for hours, did google searches, so I came here.
Isn't this a place to get help? If so, why are there dickheads just trying to **** in your cereal here?
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The issue is you rooted in a way that tripped the flash counter.
Which is discussed in the return to stock thread.
And flashing the *stock kernel* back will remove the yellow triangle. Or using a *usb jig*.
Which is discussed.
Your problem is you flashed cm7 before you fixed the yellow triangle issue. The cm7 thread states that it does not support the *stock kernel*. To flash the *stock kernel* would remove cwm, which removes the ability to use cwm (kinda obvious, I know. Just trying to educate the obvious noobs). And since there's no way to boot cm7 on the i777 with stock kernel, you'd be stuck and have to use download mode and odin to return to stock, as you would have no other options.
From the above information, all from existing threads, you have two options.
Option 1
Buy a *usb jig*. Undoes tripping the flash counter and gets rid of the yellow triangle.
Option 2
Use odin to flash back to stock, which will completely remove cm7. The flash counter will still be tripped.
Obviously the *usb jig* will be easier to use and will undo tripping the flash counter. Though it costs money, you have to wait for it to ship, and so far at&t has not been caring about a tripped flash counter.
Thank you for doing research before posting. Understand you read the answer and just did not get it. So when you post and say you've read the stickys and it's not covered, when we know it is, what are we to say? The information is in there. Literally there is a step by step write up dealing with removing the yellow triangle.
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great explanation mr. hairy1.
Jig worked great for me...might come in handy down the road as well.
JCDwight said:
I absolutely DID read the FAQ.
My question is not answered in the FAQ, and if you would have read it, you'd know that.
I've looked at every sticky in the forum, the one at the top does not address this.
Can I get a link to the sticky? If it's the one posted below that doesn't help me either. I've already rooted and installed Cyanogen 7 on my phone, now all I need to do is get rid of the yellow triangle
I mean, would it have taken you as long to help me out as it did to come on here and yell at me? I read over the forums for hours, did google searches, so I came here.
Isn't this a place to get help? If so, why are there dickheads just trying to **** in your cereal here?
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So... let me get this straight.
1. You didnt read the FAQs or stickies that CLEARLY fix/cure/answer your question.
2. Decided to post a thread asking how to get rid of the yellow triangle and for a stock kernel.
3. Didnt read or click on the two posts above this one (that Im quoting) that was posted 45 and 40 minutes before this post.
4. Decided to flame the ones that posted in this thread to help you by calling them "dickheads" and use a horrible analogy to sum things up.
Did I miss anything? You have been here for 9 months and only 4 posts (all of them in this thread) so Im assuming that you do reading here and not posting... so you should have read the FAQs and stickies at the top of the forums. Its not a good idea to flame people for trying to help you. Its not their fault that you didnt read what you were supposed to, or for not reading the two posts above yours that actually point you in the right direction.
Infraction issued due to flaming.
Hi,
I recently upgraded to this device from the EVO3D. I have a question with regards to rooting.
With the EVO, every time there was a major OTA update, there were always firmware/radio updates to flash through the bootloader with fastboot in addition to the ROM base itself.
Does this exist with Samsung phones or is everything contained within the ROM package itself? I have a phone with 2.3.4 and was going to try a 2.3.6 ROM but didn't want to leave any important updates behind.
I have read through all the stickies and page through the general as well as the Q& A section and did not see it addressed.
Thanks for the help.
Obviously anyone who wants to chime in is more than welcome.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using Tapatalk
jpreichart said:
Hi,
I recently upgraded to this device from the EVO3D. I have a question with regards to rooting.
With the EVO, every time there was a major OTA update, there were always firmware/radio updates to flash through the bootloader with fastboot in addition to the ROM base itself.
Does this exist with Samsung phones or is everything contained within the ROM package itself? I have a phone with 2.3.4 and was going to try a 2.3.6 ROM but didn't want to leave any important updates behind.
I have read through all the stickies and page through the general as well as the Q& A section and did not see it addressed.
Thanks for the help.
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Basically, anything is independently flashable. Sometimes there will be interdependencies between components, but not usually.
1) Right now there is NO reason to ever flash bootloaders - avoid it. Any CWM-flashable firmware in these forums does not include BLs. (This may change with ICS.)
2) Don't flash anything with a .PIT in Odin - it'll hose your device.
3) You can mix and match any radio firmware with any system firmware. (At least for Gingerbread. ICS is an unknown.) It's not like many HTC devices, where the radio acted as a bootloader for the applications processor - on Samsungs, the AP bootloads the modem.
4) Older kernels can cause problems with newer firmwares. My latest releases should work with any Gingerbread firmware other than AOSP/CM7.
Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
With HTC the updates were always stripped of any bootloader updates to remain s-off. The remainder was always flashed through recovery or fastboot. I am trying to understand this wotld a little more. I have become very afraid of bootloaders from my time there.
I would assume the good people here will help guys like me if things change with ICS?
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jpreichart said:
Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
With HTC the updates were always stripped of any bootloader updates to remain s-off. The remainder was always flashed through recovery or fastboot. I am trying to understand this wotld a little more. I have become very afraid of bootloaders from my time there.
I would assume the good people here will help guys like me if things change with ICS?
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Yup. Any ICS update should contain clear instructions on if the bootloader situation changes. (Right now, there's no evidence of this.)
It is my opinion that anyone who provides a bootloader flash should always do it separately and make it clear under what circumstances the user should flash the BLs.
In general, be careful about flashing factory-originated firmware updates as these can include bootloaders. Almost anything here won't. (However, the first UCKK6 leaks did... Next time an I777 leak shows up we know how to remove the BLs though.)
One last question. You have been very helpful. If i use your kernel to get CWM onto the phone to avoid the flash counter, it will play nice with stock rooted 2.3.4?
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jpreichart said:
Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
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This is by choice. Just by spending a little time reading the FAQ, looking through the stickies and perusing the forum in general would have probably prevented you from starting this thread. Always do a search before starting a new thread and whenever possible post to an already existing related thread rather than start a new one. No more newbie pass for you.
Miami_Son said:
This is by choice. Just by spending a little time reading the FAQ, looking through the stickies and perusing the forum in general would have probably prevented you from starting this thread. Always do a search before starting a new thread and whenever possible post to an already existing related thread rather than start a new one. No more newbie pass for you.
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I mentioned above that I have / had searched. I did not find the same question asked. If I missed it, I apologize. It took me a few days to get the courage to post. I did not want to start a discussion and get 5 responses like yours (it seems that is the most common response people get when they ask questions).
Sometimes you have to ask a question in a way that makes sense to you to understand the answer. Otherwise what is the point of a Q& A section?
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jpreichart said:
One last question. You have been very helpful. If i use your kernel to get CWM onto the phone to avoid the flash counter, it will play nice with stock rooted 2.3.4?
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Yes, it should. You'll need to root your phone to install my kernel without the counter - either SuperOneClick (works for UCKH7) or my prerooted system image (flashing custom system images doesn't trigger the counter)
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Sometimes you have to ask a question in a way that makes sense to you to understand the answer. Otherwise what is the point of a Q& A section?
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It certianly isn't to ask questions that can be answered with an investment in time and reading or that have been asked and asnwered already.
Here's a tip I and others give newbies looking for answers: During the initial period of looking/searching/reading, do NOT use your phone. Use a PC so you can see full pages and it will be easier to gather information. Tapatalk or the XDA app should be limited to making replies or casual reading of the forum, not as a way to research these often complex subjects.
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It certianly isn't to ask questions that can be answered with an investment in time and reading or that have been asked and asnwered already.
Here's a tip I and others give newbies looking for answers: During the initial period of looking/searching/reading, do NOT use your phone. Use a PC so you can see full pages and it will be easier to gather information. Tapatalk or the XDA app should be limited to making replies or casual reading of the forum, not as a way to research these often complex subjects.
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I agree with you. For what it's worth, I did search using a desktop. Just typing on my phone. I can't put it down!
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Hey guys
I'm flashing the stock ICS firmware on my friend's S II, along with rooting it, and flashing CM9.
I did a search for ICS bootloader, and a lot of threads came up, but I'm just creating my own thread for my own specific questions.
- "Make sure you're running ICS bootloaders lower than LPH! (if you're unsure, flash the CM9 Resurrection Edition)"
That's from the CM9 Discussion thread in the General Section
First off, how do I determine which bootloader the phone is using? Second, how do I determine if the phone is running a bootloader higher than LPH? And if it is, from where do I install a lower bootloader and how do I flash it
I know the CM9 Resurrection Edition basically does everything for you, even if you have a bootloader higher than LPH, but its using PC Odin correct? And thats going to increase the binary counter, which I don't want. And Chainfire's triangleaway app does not work with cm9 yet.
Sorry for the questions, I'm using a Galaxy Note, and it seems like its just more straight forward than the S II, and don't really have that much time to go through the entire S II forum
and don't really have that much time to go through the entire S II forum
Agree 100% i dont have the time to search or read for you either or even ask in the CM threads .
jje
To flash a bootloader you have to use odin ...
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (CM9)
Should I flash the bootloader ?
You don't need to. There are currently no reports of issues having not flashed the bootloader. However, if you flash the ICS bootloaders, you can't reset the download count with a JIG any more.
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and don't really have that much time to go through the entire S II forum
Agree 100% i dont have the time to search or read for you either or even ask in the CM threads .
jje
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You don't need to give snide remarks man. This site is for helping people out. I didn't ask you or anyone to search or read for me. I asked people who are already knowledgeable about your phone that can help me out without having to go through the entire forum. And no offense to the mods, but this forum seems very messy and unorganized. If you read my entire post, and in the beginning I said I made a search, but I need to make my own thread about my own way of asking specific questions.
Thanks anyways S II forum, I've already figured it out on my own.
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Short answer
Doesn't matter what boot loader you are on
Triangle away works in cm9
Flash a ics boot loader before trying triangle away.
If you see serial in phone about status you are on ics boot loader.