M question, But ight be a stupid question, But why 2 developement sections in this forum,,,??? Just curious
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One is used for roms based off of the "Original" source and the other is used for "Cutting Edge" or experimental roms such as Miui. That is how I understand it anyway. Feel free to hit the thanks button!
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One is used for roms based off of the "Original" source and the other is used for "Cutting Edge" or experimental roms such as Miui. That is how I understand it anyway. Feel free to hit the thanks button!
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Except there are plenty of roms in the original development section that are based on an "original" source, while aokp, which is not is in the regular development thread. So I think there is more to it then that.
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Seems silly to me. Then again, I'm not a developer
I like simple, and having two development forums overwhelms my peanut-sized brain
I dont like it either, but at least read up on it to get a feel of what they're going for
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...evices-attempts-to-separate-wheat-from-chaff/
just my opinion, and you can yel lat me if you wish, nut i prefered the 1 dev section. everything in one palce, now i have to hunt for what im looking for,
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Except there are plenty of roms in the original development section that are based on an "original" source, while aokp, which is not is in the regular development thread. So I think there is more to it then that.
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They're still getting it organized so they might have just missed a thread or two.
The 'original' development refers to breakthroughs for the device and "cool stuff". For example, JB development, CM9, MIUI, and so on. On top of that, ROMs that have a lot of actual work put into them--ViperROM, MeanROM--are included because they take the base software that HTC gives us and add in extensive tweaks and such that make a somewhat noticeable difference in overall device performance.
The other section will be for ROMs that don't fit that description. For example, a themed ROM that just uses another ROM as a base, or a ROM that just has the buzzword-y, placebo tweaks that aren't really that big of a deal. Most ROMs will fit into this description.
I will say that I personally feel that they were too lenient on what was considered 'original', and I feel that some of the ROMs there don't belong in that section.
Thanks for the replys. I myself feel that one development section just makes things much easier to navigate. More reliable than having to search through two different forums.
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It all seems very opinion based. I just don't see this working out well. Some will be considered original just because of who makes them. Even if it doesn't happen that way, some devs will feel that way. I don't know about other phones but I think 98% of the roms out there have some kind of performance tweaks, otherwise it's a theme. Just my opinion I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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yea im defff not feeling it either.. its just a pain in the a$$
It just gets kinda rough looking for that certain thread and it seems like they keep moving. I coulda swore meanrom was in original, now its in regular? Confusing.
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evo401 said:
yea im defff not feeling it either.. its just a pain in the a$$
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It just gets kinda rough looking for that certain thread and it seems like they keep moving. I coulda swore meanrom was in original, now its in regular? Confusing.
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Exactly right on both accounts why confuse the element by splitting it up into two catagories. Developement is developement. Thanks for the opinions,,,later,,,,,,
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Just as the title says...Can we now?
Which problems? This build is the same ED01 build we found a few days ago.
Doubt it will make a huge difference. Its nearly the same as EC01.
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Check out evil fascination rom. Pretty nice, based on what I believe to be the same build sent ota tonight. Thats as good as it gets right now imo.
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How about you fix them yourself Or be a little less impatient and a little more grateful of how much work these dudes do for us.
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How about you fix them yourself Or be a little less impatient and a little more grateful of how much work these dudes do for us.
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He's just asking a simple question. No need to answer that way.
Yes, it IS true that there probably isn't MUCH of a difference between this and EC01...
However, this is what I was waiting on to update my ROM, personally, so I will be doing this in the next few days. As for what other developers would like to do, that is a personal choice, they may simply not see any reason to and won't.
So besides those like me who make the choice to do anything with it, you probably won't see anything happen. Just keep in mind that just because it is official doesn't really make it any better than what we have at this moment. I haven't explored it yet, but that is my opinion on the matter.
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He's just asking a simple question. No need to answer that way.
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When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him *edit* unless the intention is to "flame" said user.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see your reasoning at being a little harsh.
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When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see no reason to be slightly harsh .
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also most people want aosp,cm fixes and this will not help them, the stuff they want fixed is tied to tw which had been stated hundreds of times.
SC2.9.2 Voodoo Eclipse
Something to that effect (Touchwiz source doesn't help AOSP so much) should honestly be stickied to the top of the development forum, although I doubt that would help that much anyway with the type of people who post these threads...
People don't remember how long it took for JT to even get a good Eclair AOSP build working. I think it's somewhat clear that Samsung's releases are not terribly useful for AOSP ROMs.
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When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him *edit* unless the intention is to "flame" said user.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see your reasoning at being a little harsh.
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I really think that mods should temp-ban these people who just post wherever they want.
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We don't have everything we need from Samsung. Stop asking. It's been said already.
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We don't have everything we need from Samsung. Stop asking. It's been said already.
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Thats all folks!
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Sorry I just think it's a little rude to post this in the Development forum is exclamation points and CAPS!!! It came off very "ugh why do these dev roms have so many problems can we just get them fixed? GAWD!"...to me. I am not a developer but I am very aware that it is not nearly as simple to do what they do as some people seem to think. Maybe I over reacted a little, but that type of attitude pisses me off.
hey everyone... is development here dead or what? i saw ics was being worked on but got dropped. along with miui, a senseless rom, and others...
is there anything we can do to make more development here?
No development is not dead, if your new here, there are a couple things you should know. First, the dev doing all the work here, xboarder56, was banned I believe, he has his own forum and all of his roms are there. Nrgz28, an awesome dev, has an amazing rom. Faux123 has a kernel for OC/UV. Ics is being worked on by xboarder and a member of the cm team. A sense 4.0 port is on the works by a dev in xboarders forum. So, no, development is not dead. If we want more devs devving here, I think we should do what has been done before, a bounty. I believe someone has spoken to a member of the virtious team.
Edit: sorry, xboarder is working on an aosp build with texasice if you know who he is. And the cm team is working on, well, A cm9 build
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hey everyone... is development here dead or what? i saw ics was being worked on but got dropped. along with miui, a senseless rom, and others...
is there anything we can do to make more development here?
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Multiple different 3.0 ROMs, a 3.5 and ics in the works. Themes, mods, and toolkits can all be found. Feel free to change custom boot animation if you want. Haven't heard any update on miui.
Not sure I understand your question... What else do you need? Your question "is there anything we can do..." Yes there is something. You could always get s=off for us... There's like a 1k bounty that will reward you for your success.
I'll keep my fingers crossed and will be cheering for you
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Yes there is something. You could always get s=off for us... There's like a 1k bounty that will reward you for your success.
I'll keep my fingers crossed and will be cheering for you
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LMFAO maybe we should get you a skirt and some pom poms? let me know, ill be there, camera in hand
well i've personally never owned any htc phones. so when i get the amaze 4g, it will be my first. i've made many roms and mods for phones with vanilla android though.
what exactly is s=off and how do you make a htc phone "s=off"?
also, i dont see any boot logo changing threads...
heres my boot logo thread: http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ed-converter-l-updated-12-29-1-20-pm-est.html
so if i am able to figure something out, i should have some goods to bring to the party!
how high is the chance of bricking on this device?
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well i've personally never owned any htc phones. so when i get the amaze 4g, it will be my first. i've made many roms and mods for phones with vanilla android though.
what exactly is s=off and how do you make a htc phone "s=off"?
also, i dont see any boot logo changing threads...
heres my boot logo thread: http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ed-converter-l-updated-12-29-1-20-pm-est.html
so if i am able to figure something out, i should have some goods to bring to the party!
how high is the chance of bricking on this device?
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Can't change splash screen without s=off... Only animations. AFAIK, s=off is a security flag put into a system partition to prevent us from flashing new radios, flashing splas screens, or flashing kernels in recovery... HTC has made it more difficult for devs to access this and hack the exploit, so we are for now... Stuck. Team Revolutionary has hacked a few devices, but they don't have an amaze.
It's becoming a pain in the ass. Because the phone is a North American marketed device (vs a world market device)lacks worldwide development... And devs that are in the states that can get the phone don't want it because no s=off.
There's approx a $1k bounty out for whoever hacks it though.... Although nobody seems to be biting on it.
The Amaze forum is a mess... Lol but the phone is a beast.
Edit.... As far as I know, the phone cannot be bricked. I've yet to hear of any "real" brick... Only soft bricks that can be fixed.
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its not dead but, I have a feeling its going to be soon. with the discontinuation of the amaze... the parting of xboarder and binary to their own forum. The forum has lost its momentum. what is left from development is from before. compared to the sgsII forum, you can def call the amaze dead on development. yes xboarder is working on ICS and cyanogen is planning of an AOSP rom. I think we will see no other kernel developers besides faux, unless it's for ICS.. and I think the developers we have now are the only ones that we've got. With the anouncement of new HTC phones more developers are going to shift gears...some developers from here might even shift gears...they might send us an update on a rom here and there but that'll be it. if you look at the development of successful phones such as the nexus one, samsung vibrant, galaxy nexus etc, all of them are still going very very strong even though they came out 2 years ago, the vibrant a 2 year old phone already has multiple ICS roms available, multiple kernels, etc. we're pretty much done here. the developers we have here had to be bountied anyways. My personal opinion is that there is no interest left in the amaze development wise besides a couple of developers....sorry but have to be realistic.
well heres the most current cm9 progress https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/4Lpyw9bPBCq
just got updated like 20 mins ago....
plus when i get the phone i will try to make roms for it.
also, what do you have to acomplish to get s=off? does anyone here know?
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its not dead but, I have a feeling its going to be soon. with the discontinuation of the amaze... the parting of xboarder and binary to their own forum. The forum has lost its momentum. what is left from development is from before. compared to the sgsII forum, you can def call the amaze dead on development. yes xboarder is working on ICS and cyanogen is planning of an AOSP rom. I think we will see no other kernel developers besides faux, unless it's for ICS.. and I think the developers we have now are the only ones that we've got. With the anouncement of new HTC phones more developers are going to shift gears...some developers from here might even shift gears...they might send us an update on a rom here and there but that'll be it. if you look at the development of successful phones such as the nexus one, samsung vibrant, galaxy nexus etc, all of them are still going very very strong even though they came out 2 years ago, the vibrant a 2 year old phone already has multiple ICS roms available, multiple kernels, etc. we're pretty much done here. the developers we have here had to be bountied anyways. My personal opinion is that there is no interest left in the amaze development wise besides a couple of developers....sorry but have to be realistic.
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agreed, but dont be so pessimistic. not having 654987651321 roms is not the end of the world. as long as we have a few, good roms, we're golden. i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it
I can't believe I went to tmo to buy a sensation, came out with the amaze jusr cuz I wanted. Man, all I wanted was roms!!
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well heres the most current cm9 progress https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/4Lpyw9bPBCq
just got updated like 20 mins ago....
plus when i get the phone i will try to make roms for it.
also, what do you have to acomplish to get s=off? does anyone here know?
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Thats getting updated on The All you need to know thread!!
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...i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it
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HA!
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I can't believe I went to tmo to buy a sensation, came out with the amaze jusr cuz I wanted. Man, all I wanted was roms!!
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Well you got a better phone at least :/
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where's that thread? is it the amaze bible thread? and was it there before i posted this? if so sorry for that
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HA!
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dont you just love those surprise posts?
mrmako777 said:
agreed, but dont be so pessimistic. not having 654987651321 roms is not the end of the world. as long as we have a few, good roms, we're golden. i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it
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agreed again!!! for me all I need is cyanogen 9 and a good kernel!!
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where's that thread? is it the amaze bible thread? and was it there before i posted this? if so sorry for that
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Dont Worry Bout it man, just give out info you havnt seen before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545464
Theres the thread were all the updates are, if you know something that isnt there just pm me
Sensation gets mad love, why?
I've been looking at what's been going on at xda & it seems like development for the Amaze is moving but not as fast as the sensation. Is it easier to develop for that phone than it is for this one. I known this phone has more power than the sensation so why are there so many ROMs for the sensation. Thanks for all your help guys.
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No development is not dead, if your new here, there are a couple things you should know. First, the dev doing all the work here, xboarder56, was banned I believe, he has his own forum and all of his roms are there. Nrgz28, an awesome dev, has an amazing rom. Faux123 has a kernel for OC/UV. Ics is being worked on by xboarder and a member of the cm team. A sense 4.0 port is on the works by a dev in xboarders forum. So, no, development is not dead. If we want more devs devving here, I think we should do what has been done before, a bounty. I believe someone has spoken to a member of the virtious team.
Edit: sorry, xboarder is working on an aosp build with texasice if you know who he is. And the cm team is working on, well, A cm9 build
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I am going to wait and see how the new phones that T-Mobile gets. If the One X has more development, might as well to switch over with something that has more activity.
I would say there are two main differences between this phone and the Sensation. (1) The Sensation is owned by far more people (ergo, more developers), and (2) Development is more difficult without S-off. I'm just guessing here, because I'm not a developer, but those seem to be our biggest problems.
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Well look what we have here! Samsung has finally released the source code for the i777 ICS kernel.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=I777
helfrez said:
Well look what we have here! Samsung has finally released the source code for the i777 ICS kernel.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=I777
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And we care why? I'm damn near positive it doesn't benefit us
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Nick281051 said:
And we care why? I'm damn near positive it doesn't benefit us
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Why does every **** and Jane feel the need to jerk off on the forums? The post is in the general forum, and it is general information. Go troll some other thread for attention please and thank you.
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Why does every **** and Jane feel the need to jerk off on the forums? The post is in the general forum, and it is general information. Go troll some other thread for attention please and thank you.
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because your posting crap about ICS for our device. we dont care, its old and we've had it perfect for quite some time now.
we're onto Jellybean. thats news. ICS source....no DEV cares about that.
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because your posting crap about ICS for our device. we dont care, its old and we've had it perfect for quite some time now.
we're onto Jellybean. thats news. ICS source....no DEV cares about that.
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I rest my case your honor lol. Point proven.
helfrez said:
Why does every **** and Jane feel the need to jerk off on the forums? The post is in the general forum, and it is general information. Go troll some other thread for attention please and thank you.
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I rest my case your honor lol. Point proven.
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Wow way to be a ****, really this information is pointless
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I mean its cool that they FINALLY decide to do this, and I'm sure that there will be some people who it will benefit. But as someone already said,I think that the development will be headed towards trying to get a working stable jelly bean build.
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Imagine if we would've had to wait on ICS source to having working ICS. D:
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I mean its cool that they FINALLY decide to do this, and I'm sure that there will be some people who it will benefit. But as someone already said,I think that the development will be headed towards trying to get a working stable jelly bean build.
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No debating that fact, this was just a simple post about something relevant to the device being FINALLY made available. If I thought it would be responsible for some development breakthrough, I would have put it in the dev forum..no wait, that's for development..so I is just a general piece of information...but wait it's in general..
The ongoing problem, not just here, but rampant everywhere, is people feel empowered to be jerks because they have some grand illusion of themselves being elite. The post was general information, in the general section, for the specific device, there was no need for the snarky remarks. It's just another shining example of how much things have changed around here, and not for the better.
Last time I checked, XDA didn't have a rule that stated that only information deemed relevant to MotoMudder77 and Nick281051 may be posted in the General Section. To Phalanx7621's point, many people are looking upward and onward to JB, but it is going to be awhile before we see a fully stable JB build, as many of the ICS build still have quirks. Maybe this can help, maybe it won't, but how about we leave it up to the actual rom developers to decide.
Red5 can you just lock this thread before it get's out of hand. Thanks.
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Imagine if we would've had to wait on ICS source to having working ICS. D:
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I know right. Kernels are never really CRITICAL unless there is a bad driver incompatibility or something of that nature. Look at something like my old Atrix, the ICS builds are still struggling due to a lack of drivers.
Actually this is very useful. Although we know it's there we can finally see the brickbug in the flesh. It's often useful to do a full source tree compare to see if there is anything 'interesting' left out between i9000 and i777.
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No debating that fact, this was just a simple post about something relevant to the device being FINALLY made available. If I thought it would be responsible for some development breakthrough, I would have put it in the dev forum..no wait, that's for development..so I is just a general piece of information...but wait it's in general..
The ongoing problem, not just here, but rampant everywhere, is people feel empowered to be jerks because they have some grand illusion of themselves being elite. The post was general information, in the general section, for the specific device, there was no need for the snarky remarks. It's just another shining example of how much things have changed around here, and not for the better.
Last time I checked, XDA didn't have a rule that stated that only information deemed relevant to MotoMudder77 and Nick281051 may be posted in the General Section. To Phalanx7621's point, many people are looking upward and onward to JB, but it is going to be awhile before we see a fully stable JB build, as many of the ICS build still have quirks. Maybe this can help, maybe it won't, but how about we leave it up to the actual rom developers to decide.
Red5 can you just lock this thread before it get's out of hand. Thanks.
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What quirks does ics have? We only needed i9100 source. This will lead to no "developmental breakthrough"
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I agree with OP, this is information relevant to our device and so belongs in the general section. If someone feels it isn't, be civil about it. Politely state your opinion and leave the thread. There's no reason to carry a bad attitude about it.
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Nick is a wanna be mod that ****s in every single thread that people post. Useless post is useless.
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Nick is a wanna be mod that ****s in every single thread that people post. Useless post is useless.
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and this thread is done.....
we have source, good deal. whether or not we need it matters none.
good share, but trust that those who actually want it, knew about it before this thread.
You call his posts useless, we are trying to help noobs realize what is important and what isnt.
This thread. useless. along with my posts explaining all this.
now lets let this be huh?
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Nick is a wanna be mod that ****s in every single thread that people post. Useless post is useless.
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I'm not a wannabe mod and i dont **** on everyone's post, you're full of crap
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I'm not a wannabe mod and i dont **** on everyone's post, you're full of crap
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Just go away, kid
Source dropped. That's nice can we be civil and move on.
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And we care why? I'm damn near positive it doesn't benefit us
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Yeah, it was only useful to figure out whether UCLE5 was dangerous.
Some users determined that the hard way for us.
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The bad blood of some of the posters is an awful ingredient for a good community.
The elitism is discouraging and the arrogance poisoning.
You know that if a thread seems useless to you, why post and give it relevance? Let it die and it will truly reach irrelevance. There's no further point for a thread that went to oblivion (aka page 5+).
To me it reeks of immaturity and arrogance, and a huge lack of perspective on the world, internet forums and life in general.
This could have little to no value to most/all devs, but what's the need to state it over and over again. This thread has few insightful responses and they come from real devs like Entropy.
If you have never developed a single non-trivial program, how can you be so fast to judge a source code that you won't even download, read or understand? As Entropy stated, at least this gives us some insight on the brick f--k up. Too bad we could not gather it non-empirically.
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Sorry for the rant.
I understand the idea behind the Development and Original development forum names, but they still don't seem to be helpful at all.
I suggest naming them something like "HTC EVO 4G LTE Sense based Development" and "HTC EVO 4G LTE ASOP based Development".
There are sense based ROMS with Original development....so that doesnt work.
Saying only AOSP ROMS contain original development shows a general lack of understanding what goes into making all of those tweaks available to us on sense ROMS.
Fine the way it is
Try and be reasnbl
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There are sense based ROMS with Original development....so that doesnt work.
Saying only AOSP ROMS contain original development shows a general lack of understanding what goes into making all of those tweaks available to us on sense ROMS.
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He didn't say that though, did you read his post?
I agree with OP. It would be nice to have some organization in the forums. The AOSP section wouldn't be that big but that's all I really care about development-wise anyway.
There's only 2 or 3 AOSP ROMs. They don't need their own section. Its real easy to tell whats sense and whats AOSP by just looking at the title.
And while OP didnt explicitly state that sense ROMS don't have original development, that seems to be whats implied here, which is the argument that is made in other threads.
The original development section is there to highlight devs who have contributed above and beyond the norm. Its there to easily recognize whats original and whats modified stock. Go to the EVO 4G forums... they are a mess anytime there is a new OTA with multiple people releasing a stock ROM with the same tweaks.
I'm not saying its the best method, but its better than what was suggested.
it was better with one dev section... 2 is just a pain in the a$$..
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There's only 2 or 3 AOSP ROMs. They don't need their own section. Its real easy to tell whats sense and whats AOSP by just looking at the title.
And while OP didnt explicitly state that sense ROMS don't have original development, that seems to be whats implied here, which is the argument that is made in other threads.
The original development section is there to highlight devs who have contributed above and beyond the norm. Its there to easily recognize whats original and whats modified stock. Go to the EVO 4G forums... they are a mess anytime there is a new OTA with multiple people releasing a stock ROM with the same tweaks.
I'm not saying its the best method, but its better than what was suggested.
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There are only a couple so far, but official CM support could cause that number to go up. I know how the original section works, as I have been one of the people pushing it the most and explaining it to people who didn't understand it. I just think there's a better way and that we should experiment.
I was confused as well when I came to this section... why is there 2? Everything is fine in one section lol a [cm10] or [AOSP BASED] tag in the rom name makes it stand out enough lol I dun get it, what kind of roms go into original and what kind goes into regular?
Isn't all modifications considered "original"?
What if you use someone elses mods but bake it into. An all in oone rom? Its not original cuz you didn't make any of the mods so would it go in regular? Or maybe it is considered original cuz he baked it all in one?
Real curious lol
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I was confused as well when I came to this section... why is there 2? Everything is fine in one section lol a [cm10] or [AOSP BASED] tag in the rom name makes it stand out enough lol I dun get it, what kind of roms go into original and what kind goes into regular?
Isn't all modifications considered "original"?
What if you use someone elses mods but bake it into. An all in oone rom? Its not original cuz you didn't make any of the mods so would it go in regular? Or maybe it is considered original cuz he baked it all in one?
Real curious lol
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Instead of typing up my usual wall of text, I'll just give you this link.
If it was as easy as you think it is, why are there so many people who can't figure out that you can't flash a Sense kernel to an AOSP ROM? That is just an example. There really is a lot of confusion and many, many other examples.
Yes, it is easy for you and I, but we are clearly the exception, not the rule.
I am experienced and know what is what, but I have to weed through a lot of crap to see anything useful.
I did not imply anything about what is original or not. Don't read into what I write. I am always very clear and specific.
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There's only 2 or 3 AOSP ROMs. They don't need their own section. Its real easy to tell whats sense and whats AOSP by just looking at the title.
And while OP didnt explicitly state that sense ROMS don't have original development, that seems to be whats implied here, which is the argument that is made in other threads.
The original development section is there to highlight devs who have contributed above and beyond the norm. Its there to easily recognize whats original and whats modified stock. Go to the EVO 4G forums... they are a mess anytime there is a new OTA with multiple people releasing a stock ROM with the same tweaks.
I'm not saying its the best method, but its better than what was suggested.
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That has almost nothing to do with what I said. I am not talking about what is original or not. That would be someone's opinion.
I am suggesting a simple system. A ROM is either modified from an existing ROM or it is compiled from code.
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There are sense based ROMS with Original development....so that doesnt work.
Saying only AOSP ROMS contain original development shows a general lack of understanding what goes into making all of those tweaks available to us on sense ROMS.
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That is precisely my point. The way it is now has good and bad points but I think it could be better and simpler.
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There are only a couple so far, but official CM support could cause that number to go up. I know how the original section works, as I have been one of the people pushing it the most and explaining it to people who didn't understand it. I just think there's a better way and that we should experiment.
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Just for fun, go to the Original Development section and objectively look at all the titles. There are not very many threads titled is such a way as you suggest they are.
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There's only 2 or 3 AOSP ROMs. They don't need their own section. Its real easy to tell whats sense and whats AOSP by just looking at the title.
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I think they should spit development into ROMS and everything else. I've tried the so called original sense roms, besides being heavily themed whats original about them? They have even borrowed some of the so called non original rom features. 4x5 rosie would be an example. That was a meanrom original but it isn't classified as original. Its all a bunch of ego wagging with the way the threads are organized.
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I don't really mind the current setup, now that I'm used to it. But if it were me, I would have a forum for root methods, a forum for roms and a forum for kernels.
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There is already a thread to discuss this if you so feel the need to do so....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761432
Though I honestly do not see this changing at all anytime soon, esp given that this was implemented as a trial run in other devices long ago and worked out fine...
It is the way it is for the better and over time people will adjust and understand it better...
I would like to know what the best miui Rom is out there for the htc amaze, with camera and everything working?
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Well, there is definitely no "best ROM". It is all down to preference really. Developers and XDA don't like best ROM threads since it gets some of us mad because we sometimes feel people are treating us like their slaves. That causes some to quit, and without developers, there'd be no XDA!
Check them all out and see which you like. There's a couple of MIUI threads in the development section. You'll find what you want by reading the,. Most of them do have camera working, and a bunch of stuff. All non-Sense 3.6 ROMS are a work in progress and have not been 100% bug free and likely won't because stupid HTC doesn't release the complete source code!
Hope this helps.
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Well, there is definitely no "best ROM". It is all down to preference really. Developers and XDA don't like best ROM threads since it gets some of us mad because we sometimes feel people are treating us like their slaves. That causes some to quit, and without developers, there'd be no XDA!
Check them all out and see which you like. There's a couple of MIUI threads in the development section. You'll find what you want by reading the,. Most of them do have camera working, and a bunch of stuff. All non-Sense 3.6 ROMS are a work in progress and have not been 100% bug free and likely won't because stupid HTC doesn't release the complete source code!
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, apologize for asking for the best, I didn't know u guys would get mad, was just a question, but thank you guys for all the work and dedication u guys put out bc u guys don't get paid and I love xda
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angelgaa said:
Thanks, apologize for asking for the best, I didn't know u guys would get mad, was just a question, but thank you guys for all the work and dedication u guys put out bc u guys don't get paid and I love xda
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda app-developers app, thanks again, and ill be sure to check out the forums
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Yeah you should flash 'em all. It's just like pokemon when you think about it. The one that suits you best would be the one to use daily. :good:
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There is absolutely no such thing as the absolute perfect or "Best ROM". A custom ROM is all about personal preference, hence the name custom. When you customize something you are generally making it more pleasing to yourself or more usable by you. To compare ROMs is like comparing framing hammers. One may fit your hand better, one may be easier to grip, one may have a straight claw, one may have a curved claw, the point is you would choose the one that suits you best to use everyday. The same goes with custom ROMs the "Best ROM" for you will be the one that best benefits you and gives you features you like. Now just because you like the ROM and it's features not all will. We are humans and humans are going to have disagreements. But arguing over what is the "Best ROM" should not be one of the reasons why as there is no such thing as the 'Best ROM". So this thread is being closed as it is a discussion that will never reach a definitive conclusion
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