Hi, I'm still learning about PRLs and how to make use of them.. so I manually updated my phone to Sprint PRL 11119.. I was hoping that it would let me roam on Verizon towers but its the same as the over the air PRL I had.. my phone only goes to US Cellular. the thing is US Cellular signal works but isn't that much better than Sprint..
So is there anyway I could force roam to Verizon? or maybe in my area I'm out of luck?
I'm in Rockford/Chicago Area
Have the HTC EVO 3D rooted stock version.
Used the Roam Control app to force roam
also just tried the new sprint prl 60687..
I appreciate any help you guys could offer..
Thank you.
I believe that PRL is a corporate prl, which will only give you 3g roaming in certain areas of the country. The only one I have gotten to work on my phone is the 00001 prl, however that forces your phone to always roam on verizon. 3g works perfectly (as it should work, hint hint Sprint). I haven't used it since upgrading to ICS since you cant change prl's with ICS, however it will work with any GB Sense rom with the 2.1 EPST
I understand that its mostly used for the 3G roaming but I also thought it would let me Voice roam on Verizon as well not only Data..
My phone with the 11119 prl did show 3G roaming but I wasn't sure if its Verizon or US cellular data tower..
Can a PRL like 11119.. roam to Verizon 3G while at the same time roam to US cellular Voice? or it have to be both voice and data?
Also; are you saying that I won't be able to roam on verizon unless I used the 00001 prl?
Thanks.
sitlet said:
I believe that PRL is a corporate prl, which will only give you 3g roaming in certain areas of the country. The only one I have gotten to work on my phone is the 00001 prl, however that forces your phone to always roam on verizon. 3g works perfectly (as it should work, hint hint Sprint). I haven't used it since upgrading to ICS since you cant change prl's with ICS, however it will work with any GB Sense rom with the 2.1 EPST
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Can a PRL like 11119.. roam to Verizon 3G while at the same time roam to US cellular Voice? or it have to be both voice and data?
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No, it's all or nothing. The PRL should connect your phone to a Verizon tower first, then a US Cell tower second, so there may not be verizon coverage where you are.
We do have Verizon coverage I'm 100% sure of that.. Are there any other causes that wouldn't let me connect to Verizon? I mostly need the voice.
Some prl's just dont work well with some phones and different areas of the country. Like I said, one of the prl's I tried didn't work in my area. I would just try a few and see if you find one that works better.
Well I guess for now I should be happy with the 3G roaming and later I might try different PRL versions as you said and see how it goes.
Thank you for taking the time to help.
sitlet said:
Some prl's just dont work well with some phones and different areas of the country. Like I said, one of the prl's I tried didn't work in my area. I would just try a few and see if you find one that works better.
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I just thought I would share my results, roam control works great with this photon in Chicago. I used to have an epic and roam control didn't work here in Chicago, but it does with the photon. For those of u that don't know what roam control is, its an app that lets u force your phone into roaming. For instance at work, I have 1 bar. when I use the roam control app and set my phone to roam I get full service. But be advised too Much roaming willget u kicked off your contract. Also u need to be rooted to use the app.
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Can u force 3g using this on roam?, there is a way but a little lengthy
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I use Roam control quite a bit and was glad ti was updated to work with the Photon. When I'm roaming on Verizon the PRL determines if it will allow you to utilize 3G or 1X data. I changed mine to 1115 which is a business PRL that allows full 3G data when roaming on VZ. In fact the speeds surpass Sprints 3G in most areas.
how do you change prl? nvm did a search for it, and found it
piaa_nissan said:
I use Roam control quite a bit and was glad ti was updated to work with the Photon. When I'm roaming on Verizon the PRL determines if it will allow you to utilize 3G or 1X data. I changed mine to 1115 which is a business PRL that allows full 3G data when roaming on VZ. In fact the speeds surpass Sprints 3G in most areas.
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Yeah i noticed the second i roam over onto verizon, the speeds blow out sprints...Although the ability to just roam at will comes in handy when im on the phone and im entering my apartment. I have no sprint coverage, i use an air rave. So before i step inside and lose my call i roam over with roam control, and bam my call doesn't drop! Definitely a rooted phones best friend!!!
Harry_Spade said:
how do you change prl? nvm did a search for it, and found it
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Trust me its definitely worth the purchase. Also changing the prl is also very handy...just try not to roam to much, sprint can terminate your contract for roaming to much...
I've noticed mine kicks out of Vz in less than a minute, and the icon looses the triangle. When I go check the phones settings, whether I have it set to "CDMA Only" or to "Automatic", it always gets kicked back to "Sprint Only". I am on the latest update, and am rooted again.
Is anyone else having this problem, or is this an old problem you have solved already?
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Can u force 3g using this on roam?, there is a way but a little lengthy
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All roaming is done on 3G. Sprint's and Verizon's 4G networks are incompatible (LTE and WiMax).
In Chicago we roam on US Cellular, not VZW, and I only get 1x.
MultiDev said:
All roaming is done on 3G. Sprint's and Verizon's 4G networks are incompatible (LTE and WiMax).
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I am wondering if there is a prl to flash for the evo 3d, sprint network is terrible arround here, I am currently using the verizon prl, although better, not as good as US Cellular in my area, expecially at work.
Thanks in advance
GGerk said:
I am wondering if there is a prl to flash for the evo 3d, sprint network is terrible arround here, I am currently using the verizon prl, although better, not as good as US Cellular in my area, expecially at work.
Thanks in advance
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No I don't think anyone has made one of those. Is us cellular a cdma network? Have you tried the 1337, or 3137(can't remember if this is correct but it does start with a3). Or maybe even that sprint business PRL 1115 I think it is.
The Sprint business PRL (11115) only allows for roaming on Verizon I believe. I don't believe they have any roaming agreement with US Cellular, unfortunately.
I tried the 115000 and it didn't work as well as the 00001
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The Sprint business PRL (11115) only allows for roaming on Verizon I believe. I don't believe they have any roaming agreement with US Cellular, unfortunately.
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I checked into it, and one of sprints reciprocal roaming agreements is with us cellular. However the agreement is only for voice and 1xrtt, but no 3G. We could find out all the roaming agreements if someone put their sprint PRL into one of the PRL decoders floating around out there.
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I tried the 115000 and it didn't work as well as the 00001
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Yeah, that would make sense. 01 is a custom PRL, and its targets are to force roaming on to Verizon towers. 15 is a PRL encoded by sprint for business customers. Its main target is sprint towers, but directs the antenna to Verizon towers, and all the other company's that sprint has roaming agreements for. It only does the roaming though if it can't find a sprint tower. Also with 15 it will settle for roaming towers that only have 1xrtt, as opposed to the custom PRLs that aim for Verizon 3G towers whenever possible.
Try out the other 2 PRL
there is 01337 and 31337 PRLs. I have yet to test the 31337 but 01337 works well. 00001 targets Verizon towers by default before Sprint, and if that one doesnt help you much I dont think 01337 will either as it is just a modified 00001. 11115 Wont help either as you still have some Sprint service so it still defaults to that network.
Here are 3 US Cellular PRL files for you to try:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EFOKA16L
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O6JINILZ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9W7K02BI
15096 allows 3G roaming. Enjoy
Is it safe to install prl 15096? I have an EVO 3d with free roaming
sorry havent checked back in a while, I will give all 3 a try
Thanks
I just want to know if I'm gonna get extra charges from sprint if I use those 3 prls
mrjaydee82 said:
I just want to know if I'm gonna get extra charges from sprint if I use those 3 prls
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First off, it is too dangerous to use any of these unless you have a plan with unlimited roaming. However even so sprint has gotten very sneaky. They have advertised unlimited roaming, but just like their unlimited data if you do too much [voice or data roaming], or a majority of your usage is roaming [even if you barely use any] your contract states in fine print that they can terminate service. Now so long as you aren't tethering a ton, or using lots of data they don't seem to mind, but if you do they send you a warning, if it persists they terminate you. You should not get charged ever with the plan you have, and you shouldn't get terminated unless you hog data. Hogging data on sprint is bad enough but hogging data on Verizon via roaming is very wrong. They won't terminate you unless you are abusive, so I hope you have nothing to worry about.
Since Megaupload is down could you please repost the prls
Thanks
Check THIS thread. A guy here on XDA is testing all sorts of different PRL methods. Hope it helps!
GGerk said:
Since Megaupload is down could you please repost the prls
Thanks
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Here is 15094 and 15096. My roommate has u.s. cell and his prl is 15114 im gonna try to pull it later...
gunfromsako said:
Here is 15094 and 15096. My roommate has u.s. cell and his prl is 15114 im gonna try to pull it later...
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I have been searching for an EVDO US Cellular PRL for around a year now, and have never found one. I tried yours, and they work. How do you go about extracting them from a phone? I've never been able to figure that out. I really needed this since most of the places my Sprint phone roams in have little to none Verizon coverage, while there's perfect US Cellular 3G.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I have been searching for an EVDO US Cellular PRL for around a year now, and have never found one. I tried yours, and they work. How do you go about extracting them from a phone? I've never been able to figure that out. I really needed this since most of the places my Sprint phone roams in have little to none Verizon coverage, while there's perfect US Cellular 3G.
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Well it depends on what brand of phone you have. The ultimate goal is get into diag mode and from there you can use QPST or DFS to pull the prl.
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Hey all, I get absolutely horrible 3g speeds in my area on sprint, so I normally switch to the 00001 prl when I need to use data. I was just getting really tired of having to restart the phone to flash this, and restart to flash back to the sprint prl. I saw the 11115 prl can be used with the Roam Control app, so that you are always on sprint, unless you force roam with that app. Sounded great, as I wouldnt need a restart to switch to verizon data.
The problem is, the Roam Control app doesnt seem to make my phone roam. I can absolutely tell because at home, I normally get 0-1 bars of signal on sprint, but when on the verizon prl I get full bars, as there is a verizon tower less than a block from me. But when I use Roam Control to supposedly force roam, my signal still shows 1 bar, meaning I am not on the verizon network.
Anyone have any suggestions? Running InfectedROM 3.0 btw.
11115 prl is a cooperate prl... Business prl that allows 3g roaming on sprint towers. Meaning your still connected to sprint not VZW towers
Roaming, by definition, means you are not on your carrier's towers.
I have a similar issue getting it to hand off. I have selected the option within roam control to restart the phone after switching settings and the problem went away.
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11115 prl is a cooperate prl... Business prl that allows 3g roaming on sprint towers. Meaning your still connected to sprint not VZW towers
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According to every post I've read about it, 11115 allows you to roam on verizon with 3g data, unlike the regular sprint prl's which force your phone to 1x while roaming. Thus, when using roam control, you should be able to force roam on a verizon tower.
sitlet said:
According to every post I've read about it, 11115 allows you to roam on verizon with 3g data, unlike the regular sprint prl's which force your phone to 1x while roaming. Thus, when using roam control, you should be able to force roam on a verizon tower.
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No. it's a sprint corporate prl. Nothing Verizon about 11115.
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sitlet said:
According to every post I've read about it, 11115 allows you to roam on verizon with 3g data, unlike the regular sprint prl's which force your phone to 1x while roaming. Thus, when using roam control, you should be able to force roam on a verizon tower.
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You are mixing up the 00001 and the 11115 prl
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You are mixing up the 00001 and the 11115 prl
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Well again, every single thread I've read says that the 11115 is the better prl to use because you can stay on sprint, then force roam to get on verizon with 3g speeds, rather than having to flash the 00001 prl every time. So I guess these 6 or so threads are all wrong then?
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11115 prl is a cooperate prl... Business prl that allows 3g roaming on sprint towers. Meaning your still connected to sprint not VZW towers
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Sigh.
It doesnt 'allow 3g roaming on sprint towers'. That statement makes no sense.
11115 on your SPRINT phone will allow some 3G roaming onto VERIZON's towers.
I strictly use 11115 all of the time.........unless I travel to an area where I'm off of Sprint's network, then I switch to 00001 for coverage since Verizon is just about everywhere.
BTW, at home today, my 3G signal strength is full bars........for the past year it's been really low and I had been connecting to my home network via wifi for data usage. Not today, it's really great so they must have made some tower upgrades.
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right now with 111115, my speedtest results:
ping 232ms
download 2322kbps
upload 631kbps
ycats said:
I strictly use 11115 all of the time.........unless I travel to an area where I'm off of Sprint's network, then I switch to 00001 for coverage since Verizon is just about everywhere.
BTW, at home today, my 3G signal strength is full bars........for the past year it's been really low and I had been connecting to my home network via wifi for data usage. Not today, it's really great so they must have made some tower upgrades.
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right now with 111115, my speedtest results:
ping 232ms
download 2322kbps
upload 631kbps
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So does Roam Control work for you then with this prl? Again, I used Roam Control to force roam, but I can tell I'm still on Sprint's tower since I have 1 bar intead of the 6 I usually have when usingn the 00001 prl
my rom has the Roam Only option, I selected it and have the small triangle and 5 bars.....and 3G symbol, and can use the internet
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my rom has the Roam Only option, I selected it and have the small triangle and 5 bars.....and 3G symbol, and can use the internet
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Ok I'm running Infected Rom 3.0, I just saw that this rom has that option too. However, when I select roam only, it works for a few minutes, and I have full bars which means I'm on verizon. But after a few minutes, the signal goes away, and I get an X for no signal, and it will not come back on until I reboot.
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Ok I'm running Infected Rom 3.0, I just saw that this rom has that option too. However, when I select roam only, it works for a few minutes, and I have full bars which means I'm on verizon. But after a few minutes, the signal goes away, and I get an X for no signal, and it will not come back on until I reboot.
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What version of Roam Control are you running?
MrGreg said:
What version of Roam Control are you running?
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1.7.0, the only one i could find
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1.7.0, the only one i could find
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Pirated versions of the app don't work...the app may appear to be functioning (aside from the not roaming), but the internals are essentially disabled.
If you are using a legit copy, then that's a whole different story.
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Pirated versions of the app don't work...the app may appear to be functioning (aside from the not roaming), but the internals are essentially disabled.
If you are using a legit copy, then that's a whole different story.
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It's not in the Market, and I couldn't find it anywhere else. Anyone have a link?
Edit: nevermind, found the website, I must have googled it wrong before as I couldnt find it. Purchasing the app now and will try it out.
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It's not in the Market, and I couldn't find it anywhere else. Anyone have a link?
Edit: nevermind, found the website, I must have googled it wrong before as I couldnt find it. Purchasing the app now and will try it out.
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I understand people want to try out apps before buying them, but you can get a refund if you change your mind. I mention a 24 hour refund policy, but you can go longer than that, just shoot me an email if you have any questions.
I Get horrible speeds on 11115..is there another prl that could be better?
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OK so roam control is now working fine, however I am still getting only 1x when roaming with the 1115 prl.
what is the latest corporate prl for the photon? i have read at least 3 of the latest forums about 51084 but i couldnt find a straight answer on if it was the latest corporate prl or consumer. the photon already gets amazing roaming but there are some areas a verizon phone will have perfect signal and i wont. ive noticed prl's on other sprint devices using corporate prl's would allow them to connect to verizon towers consumer prls wouldnt allow.
AFAIK 51084 is a consumer, but yet allows *some* 3g roaming? Some are able to roam to Verizon with full 3g with the stock PRL, I'm assuming location is key here because in North FL I couldn't get anything over 1x speeds until I flashed a legitimate Sprint business PRL (01115) and now I have great 3g roam speeds.
Can someone point me to a "how to" so I can change my PRL manually?
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Can someone point me to a "how to" so I can change my PRL manually?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211157
Has anyone else had their data speed crap out on them after updating from 21089 to 21090? After updating this morning, I'm seeing a "1x" above my data icon now and even SpeedTest is timing out. If your data is fine, are you on a custom or stock ROM?
I'm on MeanRom v4.5, s-off with HBoot 1.4.
Not in my area its actually a lot faster now
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Once again, stock PRL's have no effect on data speeds when you are on the Sprint Network. Stock prl's only affect what towers your phone connects to when roaming.
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Once again, stock PRL's have no effect on data speeds when you are on the Sprint Network. Stock prl's only affect what towers your phone connects to when roaming.
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I believe you but it seems like such a coincidence that my data totally crapped out immediately after I updated the PRL. And a few others in the forums were reporting the same thing.
ur right
clankfu said:
I believe you but it seems like such a coincidence that my data totally crapped out immediately after I updated the PRL. And a few others in the forums were reporting the same thing.
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i noticed the same thing man 1x all over the place..soo angry.... then i switched roms to venom teams and it came with 85 and boom everythings speedy again......so yeah =D
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i noticed the same thing man 1x all over the place..soo angry.... then i switched roms to venom teams and it came with 85 and boom everythings speedy again......so yeah =D
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Changing the ROM changed the PRL?
sitlet said:
Once again, stock PRL's have no effect on data speeds when you are on the Sprint Network. Stock prl's only affect what towers your phone connects to when roaming.
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Do you have proof of this? Seems to me the prl tells the phone which towers to connect with, Sprint or otherwise. Why would they bother updating it so often, if it is just used for roaming? I seriously doubt they spend that much money on man hours just to update roaming towers.
Preferred Roaming List. Sprint phones will automatically connect to sprint towers. The PRL is only used to tell the phone what towers and frequencies to connect to when roaming.
Then explain prl 00001 that only connects to Verizon.
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Then explain prl 00001 that only connects to Verizon.
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The PRL affects every tower the phone connects to. ON network or OFF.
The list contains data about every access point on or off network that the phone can connect too. It then has priority set for on network access points so those will be chosen over an off network access point.
Roaming two definitions
1. When a wireless device associate automatically with a different access point.
2. When a wireless device connects to another providers access point.
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Then explain prl 00001 that only connects to Verizon.
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Because it sets the Sprint towers as the roaming towers, thus the phone thinks Verizon towers are the towers it should be normally connecting to.
sitlet said:
Once again, stock PRL's have no effect on data speeds when you are on the Sprint Network. Stock prl's only affect what towers your phone connects to when roaming.
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YOU MIND PROVING YOUR STATEMENT?
Everyone that got the update did a profile update. SINCE THEN EVERYONE IS HAVING THE SAME SLOW DATA ISSUE! SPRINT PURPOSELY DID THIS!
Sprint's data network is crap anyway. And I highly doubt Sprint would purposefully release a PRL to limit phone's data usage.
There was a prl pushed last year that everyone got and everyone was stuck on 1x data. I think this might have been when I was on the lg Optimus s, can't really remember... But either way, I traveled quite a ways back and forth to work, data never changed from 1x. Reverted to an older prl, I got 3g back. I know prl is meant to control roaming... But I think there's more to it than that. I've seen first hand it affect more than when I roam. But I will buy that it won give anyone faster or slower speeds from the same network other than affecting HOW it connects to the network.
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The PRL affects every tower the phone connects to. ON network or OFF.
The list contains data about every access point on or off network that the phone can connect too. It then has priority set for on network access points so those will be chosen over an off network access point.
Roaming two definitions
1. When a wireless device associate automatically with a different access point.
2. When a wireless device connects to another providers access point.
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That's what I thought. Thank you.
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Because it sets the Sprint towers as the roaming towers, thus the phone thinks Verizon towers are the towers it should be normally connecting to.
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By that rational you prove my point. The PRL does tell the phone which towers to connect with. Which in turn could effect data speed.
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What matters is we need to downgrade our PRL TO 21089
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I DONT' THINK you guys are getting it. how many people in here did a PROFILE UPDATE TO GET THE PRL!? IT WAS IN THE PROFILE UPDATE THAT KILLED THE SPEED! I want to know WHAT THEY PURPOSELY DID TO SCREW WITH OUR DATA!
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I DONT' THINK you guys are getting it. how many people in here did a PROFILE UPDATE TO GET THE PRL!? IT WAS IN THE PROFILE UPDATE THAT KILLED THE SPEED! I want to know WHAT THEY PURPOSELY DID TO SCREW WITH OUR DATA!
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Use qpst or flash back to a gb Rom & change your prl then.
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Well, it would appear that something is amiss here with the PRL. I am running a custom rom, and when it was loaded, it had 21089 as the PRL. Data speeds here and places I travel were acceptable. Now this past week I was on the road to a location that according to the sprint coverage maps should be "best" for the coverage, but the entire time I was there the phone only had 1X connection at what could be described as sucky speeds at best. The fact it indicated 1X would tend to tell me it was actually roaming and not actually on a Sprint network. So is it possible that due to agreements they have in place with other providers, they show coverage in areas they actually have no towers and are using other providers towers? I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that those of us who do not have the "corporate" PRL are downgraded to 1X when roaming. Now that I am back in my home area, 3g is back and everything is back to normal.
By the way, I did not do a profile or prl update, so I am not sure when or how 21090 got loaded.
I do plan on contacting the folks at Sprint and see if they have any explanation for this level of service. Do not have a lot of hope here, but can't hurt. I will post an update if they give me anything actually useful!
Have a good weekend everyone.