Couple of Silly Questions:
1). Is it possible to modify the open source ROMs available to use TouchWiz? I happen to be in the minority that like it. If not, however, no big deal.
2). Question for those that have flashed a new rom: Is it possible to get the Avatar app and the Sims 3 app to continue to work? Or do they just work out of the box?
s73v3r said:
Couple of Silly Questions:
1). Is it possible to modify the open source ROMs available to use TouchWiz? I happen to be in the minority that like it. If not, however, no big deal.
2). Question for those that have flashed a new rom: Is it possible to get the Avatar app and the Sims 3 app to continue to work? Or do they just work out of the box?
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It depends on what you mean by open source. Eugene373 was playing around with an AOSP build for the Vibrant, but it hasn't gone much of anywhere lately. His latest custom roms (Vibrant9/VibrantR3) were built primarily for getting rid of as much of Touchwiz as medically possible and they are basically stripped down and customized versions of the stock ROM. CyanogenMod 6.1 is the only other open source ROM being worked on and it's still in alpha. I don't see Cyanogen or any of the team members working on our port caring about Touchwiz as it sort of defeats the purpose of stock Android in the first place.
The basic point behind custom or aosp roms is that you don't like Touchwiz and prefer stock android, so it's a bit of a self-defeating strategy to think about adding back what the mods are deliberately removing.
If you like Touchwiz (as I do) then I'd say stick with stock and tweak/customize from there. It's too much work to approach from the other end and makes little sense. I'm basically stock, rooted, lots of the bloatware removed, MobileAP and the Captivate Camera installed, EXT3 lagfix...and that's about it. Phone is smooth as butter.
If you are running a custom rom, it is possible to simply push back the Avatar "app", as it's just a shortcut to the movie file on the sd card. You can also just run the VideoPlayer and start it from there regardless, so I guess that's a matter of preference. I got rid of the pointless icon. The Sims 3 install apk can be found in one of the system dump threads in the development section.
i was gonna make a custom rom for the galaxy s2, but i had some questions. I dont mind the stock rom, in fact i dont really mind touch wiz, but my problem is the apps on it.
I was wondering about Polaris office, is there a way to get the polaris office on my custom rom, or to include it in the rom its self. I really do like that app and its very useful.
Second i was wondering about wifi-sharing, i read somewhere that it is required for DLNA communication but it is also used to turn your phone in to a mobile hotspot. Thing is that thing eats up battery fast, and in my case it just starts up randomly, and puts both the cores at 60%+
7Ate9 said:
i was gonna make a custom rom for the galaxy s2, but i had some questions. I dont mind the stock rom, in fact i dont really mind touch wiz, but my problem is the apps on it.
I was wondering about Polaris office, is there a way to get the polaris office on my custom rom, or to include it in the rom its self. I really do like that app and its very useful.
Yes if the custom rom comes with Polaris or if they have it as an add on usually listed on the rom page .Might even be on the market .
Kitchen rom has it as an add on in the rom build .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133846
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Hi all,
I have just installed lightning rom 2.5 and I have noticed that under both Phone and Contacts, there are missing tabs.
e.g.
Under Phone, the contacts tab is missing. I used to be able to slide to the right for more tabs.
How do I go about adding more tabs?
I tried searching but every time I add the word "tab" I get the Samsung Galaxy Tablet threads instead.
Also, under Security, the "SIM Change Alert" and "Remote controls" doesn't seem to be working, every time I tried checking the box, it freezes for awhile and then it says the setup has stopped working.
I wanted to post this in the lightning rom thread, but there's a 10 post restriction, and as such, I am posting here.
I hope someone can kindly help me.
Thanks in advance.
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I don't know about remote control or sim change alert, but it is a well known change in ICS that those tabs are removed purposely, in their infinite wisdom. I don't agree with it, but it is what it is. One of the many reasons I'm staying on Gingerbread until find an overwhelming reason to go to ICS.
So if this ROM is ICS based, that's your answer.
ctomgee said:
I don't know about remote control or sim change alert, but it is a well known change in ICS that those tabs are removed purposely, in their infinite wisdom. I don't agree with it, but it is what it is. One of the many reasons I'm staying on Gingerbread until find an overwhelming reason to go to ICS.
So if this ROM is ICS based, that's your answer.
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Ah ic, do you know if anyone has managed to enable these tabs again in ICS?
derrace said:
Ah ic, do you know if anyone has managed to enable these tabs again in ICS?
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Not off the top of my head. Search for it.
ctomgee said:
Not off the top of my head. Search for it.
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Ya, will do.
Interestingly enough, My Samsung Nexus S is on ICS as well, but it has contacts in the phone app.
derrace said:
Ya, will do.
Interestingly enough, My Samsung Nexus S is on ICS as well, but it has contacts in the phone app.
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That's cause Nexus S is running AOSP android, and Galaxy S series (including the GS2) runs TouchWiz, which Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, have modded to their liking.
Edit to add: Lite'ning ROM is based on Samsung stock, so it uses the same system apps. This will hold true for any ROM based on Samsung stock, unless the ROM chef changes out specific apps, like the phone in this case.
ctomgee said:
That's cause Nexus S is running AOSP android, and Galaxy S series (including the GS2) runs TouchWiz, which Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, have modded to their liking.
Edit to add: Lite'ning ROM is based on Samsung stock, so it uses the same system apps. This will hold true for any ROM based on Samsung stock, unless the ROM chef changes out specific apps, like the phone in this case.
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Thanks for the clarification. I am new to android and have been reading up on how to root/flash custom Rom on my TF201, SG2 and NS one by one. Took me several hours of reading and searching, but I have managed to get them all rooted/flashed without bricking any of them
This forum is loaded with heaps of info, but sometimes it's a bit hard to search for some specific stuff;the 10 post limitation on custom rom threads make it hard for me to ask for help from the author.
Just wondering... if S2's lite'ning ROM is based on Samsung stock (non AOSP), how do people change out specific apps?
derrace said:
Thanks for the clarification. I am new to android and have been reading up on how to root/flash custom Rom on my TF201, SG2 and NS one by one. Took me several hours of reading and searching, but I have managed to get them all rooted/flashed without bricking any of them
This forum is loaded with heaps of info, but sometimes it's a bit hard to search for some specific stuff;the 10 post limitation on custom rom threads make it hard for me to ask for help from the author.
Just wondering... if S2's lite'ning ROM is based on Samsung stock (non AOSP), how do people change out specific apps?
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You need to be rooted, and you replace certain apk files in the /system/app folder. But you need to be certain to use files compatible with your particular build of Android.
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derrace said:
Hi all,
Also, under Security, the "SIM Change Alert" and "Remote controls" doesn't seem to be working, every time I tried checking the box, it freezes for awhile and then it says the setup has stopped working.
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I also had this problem. Found the fix on the Litening rom forum under Problems and questions.
I would link the page to you but since i am a new user, i am unable to lol.
Basically there is a zip file that u can flash which lets u add a samsung account and enables the remote settings features. ive tried it on litening rom 2.5 and it worked for me
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I also had this problem. Found the fix on the Litening rom forum under Problems and questions.
I would link the page to you but since i am a new user, i am unable to lol.
Basically there is a zip file that u can flash which lets u add a samsung account and enables the remote settings features. ive tried it on litening rom 2.5 and it worked for me
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Ah, cool, thanks for the link.
Going to flash to 2.7 first. I hope I don't have to do clear it to factor settings again.
Hi,
my girl friends S3 is actually completely stock and it's so laggish. Many people seem to have this problem. Everywhere they say "install cyanogenmod and it's fast". OK, but CM has no good camera app. For my GF the camera with its filters was the reason for buying it.
So is there a ROM which offers the Samsung Camera app AND fast experience?
(For example, I watched the video of S5 Sensation ROM and it seems to be laggish too.)
No asking for best rom etc. Try them out yourself.
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If it would be my phone, I would do so.
Perhaps someone here has had the same issue and found a way out by using another ROM and could share his experience.
It's wrong: CM camera is good, simply the stock one is much better... then is true that on CM builds there is no HDR/HDR+ filter support.
And yes, CM is tremendously faster than any stock or custom Samsung rom (be wary of enthusiasts who say the opposite).
"Thanks" to the TouchWiz, Samsung devices may be laggy, especially when you find that you want a bit more by a smartphone.
TouchWiz is the unremovable proprietary launcher who provide features (often useless) like many gestures and more others.
It's known by me and everyone as a "performance killer".
If an "excellent" camera is the priority, flash the MIUI rom, it provides almost the same Samsung experience and has good reviews.
It's based on the old 4.1.x Android, but receives frequently updates.
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Hi,
my girl friends S3 is actually completely stock and it's so laggish. Many people seem to have this problem. Everywhere they say "install cyanogenmod and it's fast". OK, but CM has no good camera app. For my GF the camera with its filters was the reason for buying it.
So is there a ROM which offers the Samsung Camera app AND fast experience?
(For example, I watched the video of S5 Sensation ROM and it seems to be laggish too.)
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Go for archidroid or neat rom,are the best stock based roms for s3
Simone98RC said:
It's wrong: CM camera is good, simply the stock one is much better... then is true that on CM builds there is no HDR/HDR+ filter support.
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It doesn't have much features or filters. That's the problem. And other camera apps from the Play Store are mostly not userfriendly and/or do not have good filters. Personally I prefer the Sony camera app. My GF likes the "antique warm", "antique cold" and "blue point" (translated)
Simone98RC said:
And yes, CM is tremendously faster than any stock or custom Samsung rom (be wary of enthusiasts who say the opposite).
"Thanks" to the TouchWiz, Samsung devices may be laggy, especially when you find that you want a bit more by a smartphone.
TouchWiz is the unremovable proprietary launcher who provide features (often useless) like many gestures and more others.
It's known by me and everyone as a "performance killer".
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So you think, this problem would be on any stock based ROM?
Simone98RC said:
If an "excellent" camera is the priority, flash the MIUI rom, it provides almost the same Samsung experience and has good reviews.
It's based on the old 4.1.x Android, but receives frequently updates.
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Hmm. I will have a look on it.
Please no specific rom calling or I might have to call a mod here. Just give tips in general types of roms like sammy, aosp etc. Hehe
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Nor Samsung stock camera.
Under photo editing (both when and after taking photo) I find grateful the best rated camera apps, and there are a lot.
This probably because developement is concerned only to an app, not to an entire rom such Samsung, CM, MIUI, etc.
So it's an easier work, so you're luckless if you tell me the opposite about, do newly some research.
Then your mentioned three filters who exist in Cyanogen camera too!
And is easy to have lags on a Samsung stock/custom rom, especially when you use many apps, ram is already enough satured by TouchWiz and other proprietary ****ty processes.
Without root permissions you can remove very few things.
While important software upgrades (e.g. from Android 4.1.2 to 4.3) without a data wipe from recovery, are the first cause of lags.
Simone98RC said:
Nor Samsung stock camera.
Under photo editing (both when and after taking photo) I find grateful the best rated camera apps, and there are a lot.
This probably because developement is concerned only to an app, not to an entire rom such Samsung, CM, MIUI, etc.
So it's an easier work, so you're luckless if you tell me the opposite about, do newly some research.
Then your mentioned three filters who exist in Cyanogen camera too!
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I know the filters from CMs edit function but are you sure these samsung filters are there? I don't have a CM phone here so I can't test it. But as I remember they aren't. Or can you make a screenshot of those filters?
Of course the camera is only an app in a ROM but most stock camera apps can't be used in non-stock ROMs. If I could, I would install CM and install Samsungs or Sonys camera app.
And at last: I did some research for camera apps. Because I wanted to switch to CM too. But there is none which gets me the functions and filters in a user friendly way like the stock app does. But this is a different story.
Simone98RC said:
And is easy to have lags on a Samsung stock/custom rom, especially when you use many apps, ram is already enough satured by TouchWiz and other proprietary ****ty processes.
Without root permissions you can remove very few things.
While important software upgrades (e.g. from Android 4.1.2 to 4.3) without a data wipe from recovery, are the first cause of lags.
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She doesn't have many apps and I disabled and uninstalled everything she doesn't need. The lag is there and there seems to be no solution to fix it on non-rooted stock. And as told here, there might be no solution with rooted stock :/
ponchofiesta said:
I know the filters from CMs edit function but are you sure these samsung filters are there? I don't have a CM phone here so I can't test it. But as I remember they aren't. Or can you make a screenshot of those filters?
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Of course the camera is only an app in a ROM but most stock camera apps can't be used in non-stock ROMs. If I could, I would install CM and install Samsungs or Sonys camera app.
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Sadly in most of cases it's impossible.
For Samsung camera it's surely impossible due to the ****ing TouchWiz dependence, for Sony camera... may be a port I don't know, search about in XDA-Developers.
ponchofiesta said:
And at last: I did some research for camera apps. Because I wanted to switch to CM too. But there is none which gets me the functions and filters in a user friendly way like the stock app does. But this is a different story.
She doesn't have many apps and I disabled and uninstalled everything she doesn't need. The lag is there and there seems to be no solution to fix it on non-rooted stock. And as told here, there might be no solution with rooted stock :/
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I know that's your gf, but don't be too pretentious [emoji6]: Camera Zoom FX, Camera MX, Retrica... a great choice!
Then... you uninstalled "everything she doesn't need", but never Samsung bloatware, nor TouchWiz, because are undeletable without root permissions.
Therefore a Samsung rom without TouchWiz should be unstable and mainly unusable... almost all Samsung system things need TW.
Try QS-Rom 2.5 with boeffla kernel 6.1 beta 3. It is kitkat 4.4.2 ported from note 2. It runs very smooth on my device
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Try QS-Rom 2.5 with boeffla kernel 6.1 beta 3. It is kitkat 4.4.2 ported from note 2. It runs very smooth on my device
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Nvr use ported roms if you wan stability. Esp kitkat sammy roms right now. U will nvr get stability and the smoothness the OP wans.
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Not bad. Perhaps I have to do a lot of persuading. If I create a backup of her current ROM+data she could test it and I can easyly go back if she doesn't like it.
ponchofiesta said:
Not bad. Perhaps I have to do a lot of persuading. If I create a backup of her current ROM+data she could test it and I can easyly go back if she doesn't like it.
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AOSP roms do not have the superior image quality compared to touchwiz so keep that in mind. They look the same quality with Touchwiz in the camera app but after you take it, the quality becomes bad.
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Not bad. Perhaps I have to do a lot of persuading. If I create a backup of her current ROM+data she could test it and I can easyly go back if she doesn't like it.
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Ah ok, so your gf need to be persuaded... there are two way of full backup: Nandroid via recovery (with root) and "adb" via computer (without need to root).
I never used last method, so device must be rooted.
You have simply to flash CF-Root via Odin and be sure that latest Samsung drivers are installed in your PC.
Will be flashed also the SuperSU root manager... and a CWM recovery, which is all your gf need to backup [emoji41]
Boot in recovery and choose backup and restore voice by moving menu with volume keys and clicking with power button.
At least choose if you prefer internal or external memory: I don't know gf data, but almost 3-4 free GB are surely required.
When operation is completed, flash the coming CyanogenMod 11 M10 (some day and will be released, be patient! [emoji6]).
If she'll hate CM, a simple Nandroid restore by recovery... but note that device will be already rooted.
At this point I suggest your gf to switch to a custom Samsung rom, always better than the stock due to different many optimizations and updates provided by developer (prohibited by Samsung for rooted devices).
ARHD, Omega, Imperium, ArchiDroid (for a 4.4 rom ported from Note 2, may be less stable)... a great choice!
I hope I was exhaustive... and don't forget to tell your gf about the geek hero who have spent a lot of time for her [emoji6]
Have a good day
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AOSP roms do not have the superior image quality compared to touchwiz so keep that in mind. They look the same quality with Touchwiz in the camera app but after you take it, the quality becomes bad.
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You are extreme about.
In 3 weeks of holiday I did lots of photos.
The only AOSP camera limits actually are the worst stabilization and potential banding in night photos, but with steady hand in favorable ambient conditions I obtained masterpieces.
Is true, as camera quality Samsung is "a bit" better, but speak about "bad quality" referred to AOSP, is a bull****.
I said enough, I can leave this topic... be careful not to ramble.
Simone98RC said:
Ah ok, so your gf need to be persuaded... there are two way of full backup: Nandroid via recovery (with root) and "adb" via computer (without need to root).
I never used last method, so device must be rooted.
You have simply to flash CF-Root via Odin and be sure that latest Samsung drivers are installed in your PC.
Will be flashed also the SuperSU root manager... and a CWM recovery, which is all your gf need to backup [emoji41]
Boot in recovery and choose backup and restore voice by moving menu with volume keys and clicking with power button.
At least choose if you prefer internal or external memory: I don't know gf data, but almost 3-4 free GB are surely required.
When operation is completed, flash the coming CyanogenMod 11 M10 (some day and will be released, be patient! [emoji6]).
If she'll hate CM, a simple Nandroid restore by recovery... but note that device will be already rooted.
At this point I suggest your gf to switch to a custom Samsung rom, always better than the stock due to different many optimizations and updates provided by developer (prohibited by Samsung for rooted devices).
ARHD, Omega, Imperium, ArchiDroid (for a 4.4 rom ported from Note 2, may be less stable)... a great choice!
I hope I was exhaustive... and don't forget to tell your gf about the geek hero who have spent a lot of time for her [emoji6]
Have a good day
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You are extreme about.
In 3 weeks of holiday I did lots of photos.
The only AOSP camera limits actually are the worst stabilization and potential banding in night photos, but with steady hand in favorable ambient conditions I obtained masterpieces.
Is true, as camera quality Samsung is "a bit" better, but speak about "bad quality" referred to AOSP, is a bull****.
I said enough, I can leave this topic... be careful not to ramble.
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To me, the quality is bad compared to TouchWiz and many will agree.
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S4 Revolution
go for S4 Revolution
I've changed from CM 10.2 to NeatROM v.7.4 and I have NOTHING to say against it. Very fast and good battery performance!
Maybe when CM releases the CM 11 stable version I will think to flash it again.
About rooting, I don't like CF-Root. I prefer Philz Touch :S