[Q] Security, encryption etc. - Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A

Hi guys,
I've been doing lots of searching but I still don't have a clear idea bout Android security. Many of the threads I found are too old and may not be valid anymore. I have a Mini Pro - SK17i and wish to:
1) remove Sony bloatware. Is it a good way to use DoomLoRD's root method and use SystemApp remover? Or just remove the offending .apk's manually? Or Titanium?
2) enable GPS without sending the 'anonymous usage statistics'. I find this incredibly offending. Also, what other statistics collection is there on this phone? There's some option in Sony settings. How to completely remove (not just disable) this?
3) encrypt the data, including on SD card, with a password. What's the best+safest way to do this?
4) the phone to lock itself with a password (which would also engage the encryption) if it's not in range of my Wi-Fi. Is it doable?
5) not grand every application every permission it requests on install. There are some apps on the market, like Permissons Denied and some firewalls. Do they work on XMP? Are they safe?
Thanks a lot in advance!

dontknowme said:
Hi guys,
I've been doing lots of searching but I still don't have a clear idea bout Android security. Many of the threads I found are too old and may not be valid anymore. I have a Mini Pro - SK17i and wish to:
1) remove Sony bloatware. Is it a good way to use DoomLoRD's root method and use SystemApp remover? Or just remove the offending .apk's manually? Or Titanium?
2) enable GPS without sending the 'anonymous usage statistics'. I find this incredibly offending. Also, what other statistics collection is there on this phone? There's some option in Sony settings. How to completely remove (not just disable) this?
3) encrypt the data, including on SD card, with a password. What's the best+safest way to do this?
4) the phone to lock itself with a password (which would also engage the encryption) if it's not in range of my Wi-Fi. Is it doable?
5) not grand every application every permission it requests on install. There are some apps on the market, like Permissons Denied and some firewalls. Do they work on XMP? Are they safe?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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1.Titanium Backup is for me the easiest method.
2.I m sure it can be done in some custom ROMs.
I m currently on stock ICS so I m not sure.
3.http://lifehacker.com/5802279/is-the-data-on-my-androids-memory-card-safe-if-its-lost-or-stolen
4.I dont think so.The lock can only be time related (15",30" etc).
5.Google is your friend if you re not sure.
N.

Thanks.
BlackArtsInc said:
3.http://lifehacker.com/5802279/is-the-data-on-my-androids-memory-card-safe-if-its-lost-or-stolen
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Yeah that's kinda what I thought and it's pretty crap. What I want/need is to encrypt for example my email (K9 + GMail) and other stuff. Basically everything.
I'd much rather have something like in this thread. I've found other TrueCrypt-style mods/apps but they all seem to be either complicated or have their own problems. Why did Android devs pick the Linux kernel if they can't take advantage even of such simple (yet very important) things?
I think I'll try LUKS Manager when I get around to it.

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[Q] building a custom rom

Hi I'm new to the development scene, I am trying to strip down a rom to remove certain programs... actually everything but the web browser, firefox 5 and flash. I would also like to set a default background in the image and preset the wireless settings too. These are going to be put in an environment where we don't want them to be messed with. Is there an easy way of doing this? I was thinking the ASOP rom might be the best candidate to work with, but I don't know for sure. I ill be rolling out about 20 - 25 units in the next week or so. any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
Your best bet is really probably to use the latest stock ROM so you don't leave root access and google market in there. You could probably acomplish your roll out by setting up any rom the way you want it, then wiping cache and user data, and running a nand backup with CWM. Then use that backup to restore onto the other devices.
To remove system apps in a ROM you can use ADB from a PC, or you can root it with z4root and use Titanium Backup. Then remove root before the backup.
thanks for the info
Thanks a bunch! I will try that when they come in. If I clear out the user data will that wipe out the wifi settings? To remove programs via ADB I still would need to be rooted correct?
Thanks
Joe
Yes clearing data will wipe wifi settings. I have never tried ADB on an unrooted device. You should jsut be able to activate debug usb and have it work jsut fine. But you can root with z4root and then UNroot with z4root when you are done with doing your root things (but befor eyou make a nand image).
Just search for z4root.apk
removing special apps
I'm having trouble removing the facebook app, youtube app and the gmarket app. any tips? I cant find them in the titanium backup app. any tips on removing these? getting rid of these apps is of the up-most importance. - these will be installed in an environment where we do not want people to have access to these apps. an help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
linuxman84 said:
I'm having trouble removing the facebook app, youtube app and the gmarket app. any tips? I cant find them in the titanium backup app. any tips on removing these? getting rid of these apps is of the up-most importance. - these will be installed in an environment where we do not want people to have access to these apps. an help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
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They are installed as system apps. You would need to use something like SystemApp Remover to remove them (it can also backup the system aps incase you want to reinstall and also convert nonsystem apps to system apps). But, you do realize that there are other places for users to get apps to install than Market and you can still reach Facebook & Youtube via the browser once the google apps are removed!!!!
Hmm
I tried the system app remover they do not seem to be listed there It looks like they are short cuts to web pages, at this point I would settle just for hiding them, do you know if it possible to hide those. I am using the factory build on the 1.2 tree.
Thanks
Joe
Use the instructions posted here on the CyanogenMod Wiki to get rid of whatever you want.
And, there's really no need to use things like z4root on the gTablet. You can get root without that. In fact, if you can connect to the tablet using adb, then you're already root. The gTab is not like a locked-down phone.
linuxman84 said:
I tried the system app remover they do not seem to be listed there It looks like they are short cuts to web pages, at this point I would settle just for hiding them, do you know if it possible to hide those. I am using the factory build on the 1.2 tree.
Thanks
Joe
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I do believe you are correct...the stock TapNTap had the ability to save Web Links as Icons on the home screen. Not running stock and don't remember if there is a way to remove them.
z4root is handy to gain root and install busybox/superuser without having to set up adb though.

[Q] Lean&Mean without losing Xperia functionality

Hi guys,
I haven't got the phone yet (ogling the Mini Pro, counting my money), but I'm wondering what hints you have for reducing crud on the current batch of Xperia phones, without losing the (full) functionality of Xperia launcher & widgets.
So, assuming you have root and wish to uninstall programs from /system/apps, which ones would you delete?
(I'd like to keep full xperia functionality, since I really like the look of the default launcher and some of the widgets)
once i've got mine rooted im removed that daft pop cap games rubbish! also all the office tools and other things i dont need, i like to have mine as slim as possible with only the things i'll use left on, my x10 mini pro has everything removed that can be
dryhte said:
Hi guys,
I haven't got the phone yet (ogling the Mini Pro, counting my money), but I'm wondering what hints you have for reducing crud on the current batch of Xperia phones, without losing the (full) functionality of Xperia launcher & widgets.
So, assuming you have root and wish to uninstall programs from /system/apps, which ones would you delete?
(I'd like to keep full xperia functionality, since I really like the look of the default launcher and some of the widgets)
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Before installing CM i was on a rooted stock ROM with plenty stuff removed. I had 80+ MB more RAM available after the cleanup. I didnt have any kind of memory issues before, and while some say that free RAM is wasted RAM, its even more wasted if its been used by apps you dont need.
From what i remember, I've removed: everything related to timescape including all widgets and extensions, extensions for music player, xperia stock launcher, many android and google services (anonymous stats collection, google partner setup and some other google ones, and many others...), popcap and other miscellanous 3rd party apps and so on.
I cant recall all of it, but basically everything that you can recognise by the title and dont need, you can remove. Like stock calculator, launcher, widgets...
If you would need help later on, just post here a list of services and ill try to help.
sulkie said:
Before installing CM i was on a rooted stock ROM with plenty stuff removed. I had 80+ MB more RAM available after the cleanup. I didnt have any kind of memory issues before, and while some say that free RAM is wasted RAM, its even more wasted if its been used by apps you dont need.
From what i remember, I've removed: everything related to timescape including all widgets and extensions, extensions for music player, xperia stock launcher, many android and google services (anonymous stats collection, google partner setup and some other google ones, and many others...), popcap and other miscellanous 3rd party apps and so on.
I cant recall all of it, but basically everything that you can recognise by the title and dont need, you can remove. Like stock calculator, launcher, widgets...
If you would need help later on, just post here a list of services and ill try to help.
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I didn't root as long as it meant I had to unlock the bootloader, but I did it now that the ZergRush method existed
Now I'm trying to remove some software, but I don't manage to do so.
In a (su) terminal on the phone, I went to /system/app and tried to rename/remove some .apk that I was really sure I didn't need (like magicboxinstaller.apk) but it says that the file system is read-only. Can I remount the filesystem from inside the terminal on the phone, or do I need adb?
and what's the syntax to remount?
Another thing:
I'd like to remove the following stuff:
- magicbox
- popcapinstaller
- fun & downloads
- playnow store
- mobistar tv (related to a local provider, you won't know this probably)
Any idea which apk's these map to? (I'm guessing magicboxinstaller.apk = popcap installer, but the others???)
thanks
just install root explorer and delete files. probably easier than terminal, and you can set it to RW
dryhte said:
Can I remount the filesystem from inside the terminal on the phone, or do I need adb?
and what's the syntax to remount?
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I used adb for it. When rooted open a command prompt, navigate to adb's place, type in:
adb
su
exit
adb remount
adb
And now you can delete everything.
You can roo it. There's a thread about what apps are save to delete. Kinda funny how i have officesuite pro and the trial crapware is still there.
I you have busybox you can do busubox mount -o remount,rw /system I did it to modify some keyboard layout related files.
Good luck with your apps
just install system app remover, its much easier
I would recomend using the ZergRush-method if you care about DRM, warranty or bricking.
What I did on my Xperia Active was to first use ZergRush to get root access using ADB.
Then installed SuperUser and 'su' binary, as well as busybox 1.19.
Then install Titanium Backup (ROOT), and start removing bloat.
The nice thing about using Titanium is that you can backup the different parts you wish to remove, and thus reduce the chance of breaking og loosing desired functionality.
Personally I must say it really makes a difference.
Before I regullarly experienced, when going back to the home screen, a complete redraw as a consequence of memory being flushed.
After it has not happened once.
dryhte said:
I didn't root as long as it meant I had to unlock the bootloader, but I did it now that the ZergRush method existed
Now I'm trying to remove some software, but I don't manage to do so.
In a (su) terminal on the phone, I went to /system/app and tried to rename/remove some .apk that I was really sure I didn't need (like magicboxinstaller.apk) but it says that the file system is read-only. Can I remount the filesystem from inside the terminal on the phone, or do I need adb?
and what's the syntax to remount?
Another thing:
I'd like to remove the following stuff:
- magicbox
- popcapinstaller
- fun & downloads
- playnow store
- mobistar tv (related to a local provider, you won't know this probably)
Any idea which apk's these map to? (I'm guessing magicboxinstaller.apk = popcap installer, but the others???)
thanks
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why use geeky method when we have easy option = http://androidflip.com/remove-pre-installed-android-apps/
Root and full functionality
I rooted my last phone (x10 minipro) so I could store apps to sd. I haven't yet rooted my 2011 minipro, partly because I would lose certain functionality. The video player for Android Market movies will not run on a rooted phone, nor will some other apps (like magazine subscriptions), because they require DRM for copyright protection. Just something to consider before rooting your phone.
dave
bigdfmartin said:
I rooted my last phone (x10 minipro) so I could store apps to sd. I haven't yet rooted my 2011 minipro, partly because I would lose certain functionality. The video player for Android Market movies will not run on a rooted phone, nor will some other apps (like magazine subscriptions), because they require DRM for copyright protection. Just something to consider before rooting your phone.
dave
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With the ZergRush method you don't lose anything. (unless you really want to have a recovery)
Rooting in itself works fine without unlocking the bootloader and therefore, without losing any DRM

To root or not to root & viruses

Fact: 99% of mobile viruses are for Android.
In general it is never wise in a *nix environment to be root.
See this: http://www.howtogeek.com/132115/the-case-against-root-why-android-devices-dont-come-rooted/
So if I have an older Android device (the Defy+ in particular) I have the option of either root it and try the later CyanogenMod or not to root and stay with Gingerbread forever?
Is there a way that after I installed Cyanogenmod I somehow de-root or un-root the device for safety? I am not that technical; I guess it's not possible; so it remains more like a philosophical question. Not only about the Defy+ in particular but in general.
Un-rooting can depend on the device and the method used to root it.
Of course, you could always just delete your superuser app, or use an app encrypter to require a password to use it. I wouldn't bother though. The benefits of root are too good to pass up if you've already taken that leap. Back-ups, ad blocking, Xposed tweaks, etc.
Doing stupid stuff with a rooted phone can certainly ruin it. The solution is not to do stupid stuff. The best way to keep your device safe is to just use your head. If you want to clean up bloatware, use Clean Master or a similar app that lets you know whether uninstalling something will affect your phone. Only side-load apps from sources you (and other people) trust. Do you research before doing anything that cause a problem. If you don't know, ask here.
That "Fact" you have is absolutely pulled straight out of someone's @$$. Viruses - no. Malware - yes. Don't install shady apps from unknown developers and "99%" of the problems won't even be an issue. And you can run a custom rom without root, such as Cyanogenmod. All root is is enabling admin access of your phone. You can even enable and disable as needed. When you have a superuser app, it controls the root permissions of the phone and you have the option of denying root, allowing root once, to request in a certain time frame, or to run it always.

A lost beginner looking for privacy and control

Hello,
I recently acquired a Sony Z5C, planning on switching to LineageOS sooner or later, but the android tweking world is way more complex than I initially imagined. I am mostly concerned about privacy and control but there is so much to go through I am completely lost. I thought it was all about running either Sony's rom or the lineageos rom but there seems to be a lot more to take into account.
What I am looking for:
getting rid of Sony's annoying bloatware
getting rid of Google Play Services
automatic or semi automatic security updates
fine tuning of application permissions (including ability to deny specific apps access to, say, my location, contact list, camera, internet, sms, without the apps noticing they have been denied access in the first place)
ads and trackers blocking (for instance global or per-application blacklisting of known "evil" domains)
being able to restore everything as it was when I purchased the phone
f-droid begin able to download and install updates without manual intervention
as little side effects as possible resulting from the deletion of the Google Play Services
Icing on the cake:
no loss in camera quality (I read somewhere it is sometimes possible to use image-enhancing algorithms despite having deleted the required DRM keys)
no loss in gps accuracy
same battery life (or better)
encompassing all data traffic of specific apps through tor or another technology preserving distant services from identifying me and my mobile network operator from knowing I access said services
Questions:
What is the difference between opengapps and microg? How does it relate with lineage? At which point in the installation process is it involved?
What are the consequences of rooting the device?
What is the purpose of so called "Magisk"? I read it "changes everything" but I have no idea what "everythin" was. As far as I understand, it is useful to fake a genuine configuration that have not been tempered with in order to use Google Pay or some games. I do not seem to care about that: should I? Is there more to know?
Most important question: in your opinion, considering the above points, the phone I have, current trends and hindsight, and your experience, what would be the best way to go? Should I follow the installation steps on the official lineageos page for the Z5C or do you think another option would suit me better?
To illustrate my technical knowledge: I have been a gnu/linux user for almost a decade but I am completely ignorant of the Android world and feel lost. In particular the concept of "root" and how user and system data is organized on the filesystem(s) (especially on Sony devices) seem different. I am willing to learn and get technical, but there is too much information and I do not know where to start with zero experience.
Thank you very much for your help.
I am in same situation. Did things like that for Moto and Samsung already, but I am new to Sony.
Key is to install TWRP. This is some kind of recovery where you can
- make a backup
- install LOS
- recall backups.
Once this is done:
- install root/su
- tingle the framework (to get microG running)
- install microG
- install afwall (firewall)
- install adaware
only than plugin a SIM and/or enable Wifi.
So: first thing is to install TWRP
unlock Bootloader:
To be able to unlock your Xperia Z5 Compact, prepare it by following these steps:
Go into Settings > About phone and tap seven times on Build number to enable developer options.
From Settings, go into Developer options and enable OEM unlocking.
Warning: Device protection features will not work on this device while this setting is turned on.Please note! It will only be possible to unlock the boot loader for certain releases. You can check if it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your device in the service menu by following the steps below:
In your device, open the dialer and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
Tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
TWRP
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/development/twrp-twrp-3-2-1-z5-compact-t3748952
A few words to your queston:
opengapps are not open source, they just add normal google apps to Custom Roms. With all pros and cons.
MicroG is offering some kind of api, so that most features can be used (notification, google maps, access to playstore).
They are installed after the custom rom. Some people don't install any of them, use FDroid as a store.
root gives you the chance to change settings, for a few advanced configurations it is required (or makes it easier): firewall, ad remove ...
No experience with magisk. It is another way of "rooting" it, gives more features (hide the root status) which is required for some games. Not needed it til now.
What seems to be missing from previous post is to backup your DRM keys since unlocking your bootloader means losing them FOREVER.
Regards,
Aeny
Aeny said:
What seems to be missing from previous post is to backup your DRM keys since unlocking your bootloader means losing them FOREVER.
Regards,
Aeny
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Right, but didn't you need TWRP to make a backup. And that is on my list, first point. Or is it a special step to do?
Thank you for your help and valuable information which now raises even more questions
If I get things right TWRP is low level stuff that would allow me to backup and restore the system whenever I need to. Say for instance I just installed LOS and configured it as desired so I use TWRP to get a backup and if I later mess things up I can restore this backup without having to go through the whole installation and configuration process? How does the official LineageOS installation guide fit in all this, sould I follow it? Do I need to follow a completely different procedure? I am not planning to tinker anympre once everything has been set up, is TWRP only recommended for people who often experiment and change things or is it recommended for everyone?
The DRM keys are removed when unlocking the bootloader but since TWRP requires an unlocked bootloader they have to be backed up beforehand, am I right? Does it mean I can restore them afterwards once the bootloader has been unlocked without locking it up again? How can I back them up in the first place?
I cannot seem to picture how all the pieces fit together, which is low level stuff, which is high level. When you say "install microg", "install afwall", "install adaware", what are microg, afwall, adaware? Are they regular applications? Regular applications with root access? Low level modules? How is root managed in comparison with a gnu/linux system where I can either directly log as root, change user to root with "su", or get temporary privileges with "sudo"? When you say "install root/su", are we simply talking about installing the equivalent of "su" or "sudo" on a linux distribution? Is there a root password I shall input each time it is required or provide some applications root privileges through a configuration app? Is such an application to be installed separately?
Thank you for the clarification about opengapps/microg. I am interested in microg although I can give a try without in the beginning as long as it is still possible to install microg later.
fetchaspade said:
WRP only recommended for people who often experiment and change things or is it recommended for everyone?
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Yes, highly recommended if not even required. All my LOS setups run via TWRP.
fetchaspade said:
The DRM keys are removed when unlocking the bootloader but since TWRP requires an unlocked bootloader they have to be backed up beforehand, am I right? Does it mean I can restore them afterwards once the bootloader has been unlocked without locking it up again? How can I back them up in the first place?
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Good point. Don't know where do I need this DRM keys for, as I did't faced off this with other mobiles.
I think you have to make a backup of the TA partition:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/iovyroot-temp-root-tool-t3349597/
fetchaspade said:
I cannot seem to picture how all the pieces fit together, which is low level stuff, which is high level. When you say "install microg", "install afwall", "install adaware", what are microg, afwall, adaware? Are they regular applications? Regular applications with root access? Low level modules? How is root managed in comparison with a gnu/linux system where I can either directly log as root, change user to root with "su", or get temporary privileges with "sudo"? When you say "install root/su", are we simply talking about installing the equivalent of "su" or "sudo" on a linux distribution? Is there a root password I shall input each time it is required or provide some applications root privileges through a configuration app? Is such an application to be installed separately?
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addsu is to flash via TWRP in same manner like LOS itself - as a zip. Others are regualar applications (installed like that) but required root privileges to work. No root password required. Once an app needs it it will ask you, and if you like it remembers you allowed it (so it will ask just once usually). Recommend to try this. You can't do much wrong if you create a backup
fetchaspade said:
Thank you for the clarification about opengapps/microg. I am interested in microg although I can give a try without in the beginning as long as it is still possible to install microg later.
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MicroG is a bit more fiddling to install than gapps and seems to has limitations. There are separate threads for just this.
Just start, you will get a feeling for that all.
Edit: But
there is already a lineagos with microG built-in:
https://download.lineage.microg.org/suzuran/
Thank you starbright_
To recap, I am to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, flash addsu via TWRP, flash lineage enhanced with microg, and I'm good to go.
I'm still stuck on the very first step: backing up the TA partition. If I'm not mistaken I need the TA backup tool which requires root access. Root access requires an unlocked bootloader (which would remove the TA partition and the DRM keys) or is achieved for a limited amount of time thanks to exploits. According to both https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/iovyroot-temp-root-tool-t3349597/ and https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/guide-how-to-root-z5c-painful-using-t3549388, it won't work on recent versions (7.1.1) so I need to downgrade. How can I do that? I imagine I need a tool to flash an old official rom: where am I to find an old official rom? How can I flash it without having an unlocked bootloader?
Backing up the TA partition really seems cumbersome. Is the loss of quality really noticeable on photos and videos? I find photos quite disappointing already and I fear it would get even worse.
On an unrelated topic, do you now of any way to backup SMS conversations as a simple file to import later on the same or different device? All I can find are applications that back up messages on a GMail account (no thanks) or any IMAP server (in what world is it simpler than an xml or simple text file ?).
Maybe you can translate this:
https://reraise.eu/2016/09/05/xperia-z5c-so-sicherst-du-die-ta-partition-teil-1
On an unrelated topic, do you now of any way to backup SMS conversations as a simple file to import later on the same or different device? All I can find are applications that back up messages on a GMail account (no thanks) or any IMAP server (in what world is it simpler than an xml or simple text file ?).
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I'm using titanium backup for that.
(menu / backup data to xml)
@fetchaspade
Did you start your project? I would appreciate to take notes of your step. That's not only helping others, but also yourself once you have to do the steps again once.

Question Best way to remove bloatware on my s23 ultra

What's the best way to remove bloatware on my s23 ultra it has Verizon bloatware and it's unlocked with a clean imei
Universal android debloater gui
Or
Adb app control
spart0n said:
Universal android debloater gui
Or
Adb app control
Any way to do it without a restore or loss of everything.?
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Both work without removing your data. All they do is give you the power to uninstall apps that are system apps that are bloat and not actual system apps
Never used either of these 2 before, but am interested.
Can you use these both without root, or does the phone have to be rooted?
Do they only remove the system app and nothing else, the phone won't reset etc will it?
Also, do you need to redo this a lot on each android firmware update? Will updates generally reinstall some apps you have removed?
Regards
James
james_lpool said:
Never used either of these 2 before, but am interested.
Can you use these both without root, or does the phone have to be rooted?
Do they only remove the system app and nothing else, the phone won't reset etc will it?
Also, do you need to redo this a lot on each android firmware update? Will updates generally reinstall some apps you have removed?
Regards
James
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They can be used without root. What they do is just removing the apps from the list of installed apps, their aren't physically deleted from the phone storage, so there is no need to reset the phone. Regarding updates I don't know.
spart0n said:
Both work without removing your data. All they do is give you the power to uninstall apps that are system apps that are bloat and not actual system apps
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Thanks for the info does this also remove the Verizon startup I want to remove everything that has to do with Verizon from this phone
cudahy_boy said:
Thanks for the info does this also remove the Verizon startup I want to remove everything that has to do with Verizon from this phone
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I'm no expert here but I think that to fully remove carrier customisation you need to flash a different CSC through Odin.
I just use ADB to uninstall the packages...
Mine is unlocked so might not have much bloat as yours....
Removing Bloatware on the Samsung Galaxy S10 Series (Android 10)
You might recall seeing this article: https://medium.com/@aviparshan/removing-bloatware-on-the-axon-7-running-android-8-0-7448b1b0ec6b
aviparshan.medium.com
Hello,
Does anyone has a list of save to remove apps?
Thanks in advance.
salapolivalenta said:
Hello,
Does anyone has a list of save to remove apps?
Thanks in advance.
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Both programs, universal android debloater and adb app control both have lists built-in and if there's one you don't know what it is or does, it shows the package name (com.android.whatever.app.calls.itself) in both programs so you can search for it online for a description of it
I have used universal android debloater and didn't even uninstalled all recommended and the result is not so good because I am not able anymore to install EXPERT RAW. I should have installing from the beginning, before to try the debloat
For some reason export didn't worked but I manually did screenshots. Can you please tell me what broke the posibility to install EXPERT RAW in camera?
I am not using Samsung account, just logged in with google account instead. It is mandatory to use samsung account for this particular camera plugin?
Thanks in advance!
No clue, I don't use that app but how are trying to install it?
You can sort by uninstalled and have "install" for each application which will ofc install it back.
salapolivalenta said:
You can sort by uninstalled and have "install" for each application which will ofc install it back.
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You're trying to install expert raw from the debloater?
If it was already on the device then I'd restore all the apps and expert raw included, then remove apps again and not remove expert raw.
Otherwise you have to leave the Samsung Galaxy store to install it from there
As I mentioned, expert raw was not installed, I have discovered after debloat that the camera raw install method is from camera app itself but now is not possible anymore, nothing happens when tap on the icon.
Some samsung modules/system apps are missing, installing back everything doesn't solve the issue.
I will reset to factory defaults, and I will login to samsung account just to be able to install expert raw and then I will debloat again (what exactly is not clear atm).
I know battery life on this model is not bad but I want to make it more efficient, my problem is that some of the apps from the provided list shouldn't be removed and I don't know which one is.
All I want is to keep everything related to camera capabilities, other thinks like microsoft apps, knox, sasung acccount, galaxy store. bixby and some google apps I don't need because for sure they are running in the background and are eating from the battery life.
s23 ultra is too new, recommended apps from universal android debloater are not safe to remove, at least not all of them so I can't find anywhere a SAFE LIST to debloat for this phone.
Any point into the right direction will be much appreciated.
Thank you!
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As I mentioned, expert raw was not installed, I have discovered after debloat that the camera raw install method is from camera app itself but now is not possible anymore, nothing happens when tap on the icon.
Some samsung modules/system apps are missing, installing back everything doesn't solve the issue.
I will reset to factory defaults, and I will login to samsung account just to be able to install expert raw and then I will debloat again (what exactly is not clear atm).
I know battery life on this model is not bad but I want to make it more efficient, my problem is that some of the apps from the provided list shouldn't be removed and I don't know which one is.
All I want is to keep everything related to camera capabilities, other thinks like microsoft apps, knox, sasung acccount, galaxy store. bixby and some google apps I don't need because for sure they are running in the background and are eating from the battery life.
s23 ultra is too new, recommended apps from universal android debloater are not safe to remove, at least not all of them so I can't find anywhere a SAFE LIST to debloat for this phone.
Any point into the right direction will be much appreciated.
Thank you!
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Unfortunately I don't think there are multiple lists of what you can uninstall. The lists in both apps I suggested are all safe to remove and the phone still work as a phone without anything extra. My only recommendation is that you just remove a couple things at a time and make sure that your camera still works as you intend it to. I wish I could be of more help, I'm sorry.
Hello,
I fixed the issue, actually is very easy. The list I initially provided (via screenshots) is fine, you just need to install back galaxy store and from there search for expert raw without being logged to a samsung account and then install it.
I haven't pay attention, the galaxy Store app name is com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.
Many thanks for your involvement!

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