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I've been around the TP forum since almost day one and I am also watching closely the Diamond one. My question (and I put it in the ROM development area for a reason) is as follows:
Why is it so difficult to change themes in TF3D manila?
It is difficult and with issues most of the time and many flaws occure when using any of the programs available by pretty capable guys around here (eg. diamond config, manila customiser, cabs etc.)
Please don't get me wrong, these programs DO WORK, but WITH FLAWS. I tried many themes and ways and I find problems most of the time. One problem for example would be speed in people tab, in NATF 1.1 ROM, att people tab is as fast as hell, but try to change the theme and you will get the shock of your life in the time it takes to open that tab. The same (even worse) would be said for RomeOs 1.40.
Why can't we just do: start>settings>today>themes and choose the theme (which should be there by the way but never is) >items>tf3d only
I know that the themes tab is for the whole interface of windows, but why is there no link between themes and tf3d, a real and correlative link i.e. one would change the other?
Sorry for the long story but would any one be interested to discuss that??
- i dont quiet understand what the issue you seem to comming across using the TF3D Customizer, if u could be a bit more specific i could possibly help..
BUT from the jump i did notice that..it was made known not to use on the 1.93 rom, is that an issue here?
i flashed NATF's rom and all seems to be working just fine. Themes take about 1-2 mins to fully load..then i get the soft reset prompt and BAM..new theme loaded
- honestly..i think using manilla on these devices which are TF3D .. makes no sense, i could be 100% wrong..but it seems like a step backwards.
i was involved with the release of TF2D and i can honestly say TF3D is better..and no not the throttle launcher version either..no knock there..just doesnt compete with the real thing.
The thing is, whenever you temper with the original (ROM TF3D) in any way, and that I noticed in all my instances and in all the roms I used, you always get a different, primary lousier responce in the performance.
about 1.93, no that was not the issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong in these:
1- tf3d is a user interface created by htc to be used on wm6.1 touch flow devices
2- this created 2 kinds of themes:
a- windows theme for the original interface
b- tf3d themes only
3- link between the 2 does not exist, or is to be made manually i.e. change wm theme & tf3d theme
4- when you change tf3d theme you almost always fall into flaws (and not to mention trying to add tabs which is another story altogether), interface flaws and performance flaws
5- no theme exists that combine both worlds in one and that you can use from the normal windows themes tab in settings (except the original shipped one in the rom of course)
1. correct.. pretty obvious there
2a. this 2nd theme u speak of.. the .tsk file, is a simple layout..like a "background so to speak, to add a bit of flare to plain. if u opted out in using TF and and just went with the today screen add-on's.
2b. well if its TF3D then i would presume u would make themes that are TF3D compat. ? call me crazy lol
3. if you want to be technical, there is a link..when u access ur start menu..while in TF3D..ur accessing theme 1 and 2. hence a link being created.
4. on an ORIGINAL STOCK ROM..of course your going to run into issues. Its made by service providers to do just that provide service, not get ur optimal performance..hence why apps such as Kaiser Tweaks, and Advance Config were created..to get that optimal performance.
on another persons created rom..the issues u generally run into will be short lived, considering they too..are tryin to edit out the bugs that u would normally run into.
once again..i really dont know where or how ur running into that TF3D theme issue..i just cycled thru 5 diffrent themes, with no issues to report.
5. u lost me
just a fast Q; Where to place the .theme files?
steps plz for the noobie.
- And do i have to use Diamond TF3D Config, or just from the setting?
Thnx!
JstarLuvsTina said:
1. correct.. pretty obvious there
2a. this 2nd theme u speak of.. the .tsk file, is a simple layout..like a "background so to speak, to add a bit of flare to plain. if u opted out in using TF and and just went with the today screen add-on's.
2b. well if its TF3D then i would presume u would make themes that are TF3D compat. ? call me crazy lol
3. if you want to be technical, there is a link..when u access ur start menu..while in TF3D..ur accessing theme 1 and 2. hence a link being created.
4. on an ORIGINAL STOCK ROM..of course your going to run into issues. Its made by service providers to do just that provide service, not get ur optimal performance..hence why apps such as Kaiser Tweaks, and Advance Config were created..to get that optimal performance.
on another persons created rom..the issues u generally run into will be short lived, considering they too..are tryin to edit out the bugs that u would normally run into.
once again..i really dont know where or how ur running into that TF3D theme issue..i just cycled thru 5 diffrent themes, with no issues to report.
5. u lost me
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@JStar:
Have you found any flip clocks that work?
One other issue I'm waiting to see figured out is the background image changing on all TF3D tabs, not just the home tab. There has been some progress on the Diamond forum, but I understand there are still issues there..
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@JStar:
Have you found any flip clocks that work?
One other issue I'm waiting to see figured out is the background image changing on all TF3D tabs, not just the home tab. There has been some progress on the Diamond forum, but I understand there are still issues there..
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This is already working with no problems......go over to PPCGeeks and there are threads on it and how to....I would link you but I cannot remember the exact thread....
Thanks for the heads up, I'll bounce over there and check it out!
really dont have to go so far.. theres a few themes here that have flip clocks ive found on here already..
check out these links..
1. The Diamond Theme And Etc Forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=441
2. TF3D Clocks ( in that forum ) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420887
good luck!
Yeah been thru those posts quite a bit. Tried a cpl themes that looked great but the flip clocks never told the time. They just sat on "000".
The slider icons and stuff worked great though
any news yet..for u
i was just browsing thru and theres been a few reports in those threads about working flip clocks.
I still believe that this tf3d themes issue is not purely resolved by the developers. I'm trying to have a smooth theme transition (i.e. change from theme to another) but am failing most of the time. Each and every (and I mean it) theme has at least one flaw that render the theme lame, sometime in the interface and some time in the performance. Am I the only alien around here???? Do I really miss something????
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I still believe that this tf3d themes issue is not purely resolved by the developers. I'm trying to have a smooth theme transition (i.e. change from theme to another) but am failing most of the time. Each and every (and I mean it) theme has at least one flaw that render the theme lame, sometime in the interface and some time in the performance. Am I the only alien around here???? Do I really miss something????
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i think u may be missing a step. ill try to help u get things right!!
what rom are u running?
what are u using to switch themes?
what are u using for your tweaks on your device?
JstarLuvsTina said:
i think u may be missing a step. ill try to help u get things right!!
what rom are u running?
what are u using to switch themes?
what are u using for your tweaks on your device?
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rom... u name it cause i tried them all (literally)
using manilla editor & tf3d diamond config
for that advanced config 3.3
ok so start from skratch..reflash the original rom, then go from there.
-use the hardspl provided in this forum.
-then flash NATF's rom ( i use that one with no issues to report..may be flashing again tonight tho, if that TIR ROM is ready. )
after your flash of the ROM HARD RESET, i know ur probably thinkin i know all this..but alot of the times ppl skip that step and it helps..trust it does!
-install NET CF 3.5
-install Diamond Tweak
-install Diamond TF3D Config
u dont need advanced config if ur using Diamond Tweak.
then we'll get a theme and go from there.
hello...I'm a noob thatd had my he2 now for some months...I've figured out a lot of thingz like installing cabs and what not...but then came cht 2.O and how you can change the theme of it phone...even with a stock ROM you can change it theme...now my problem is that once i download the cab or zip file...i must not neo utting it in the right place or extracting it right.can someone please help me out and explain this to me.i mean even the most knowledgeable people were a noob like me at one point. i have used google bit no help, and can't find it in here.thanks for your time.
try this thread......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834139
thanks for trying to help...but that is for some1 who pretty much knows all about cht...that just said make a wallpaper file...what then i out the theme cab/zip in that file and just using chts will make it change...?
Your welcome....
Sorry I thought thats what you were asking about....
Im not sure if your talking about a ready made CHTS layout/theme or just a normal theme that you want to save and use with CHTS.
Which theme are you talking about? Knowing that will help solve your problem.
What you might need to do is set everything up and then save it as a layout in CHTS.
If you can link me to the stuff your trying to use that will help too
i REALLY appreciate you taking ye time to help me...i will look for the post I'm talking about...its a theme/skin that dinik made where the clock and quicklinks all look like glass...i might not even be using the right wording...lol...doubt it though...give me a little and ill put the link up...
back again...i think i really might be using wrong words...instead of theme i might mean ROM...here is the link...scroll down to the second post...any of the 4...once again...thanks 4 taking ur time to help me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
ok, you either mean diniks "anastasia" theme or djc's "touch of glass" theme.....
neither of these are directly available to use with chts straight away.
what you need to do is install the various elements of the theme to your device then when you have it set up how you like it, save it with chts.
that way even if you flash a new rom or do a hard reset then you can restore that theme in a few seconds....
search the themes and apps section for whichever theme you prefer and start from there.
hope that helps.....
thankyou but what i mean is that i don't know how to get it to work...once i download thatd say...touch of glass...where exectly do i put it on my as card...and and when i extract it all the files that come up don't do anything...I'm used to cabs that do everything for you...lol...
i have cht 2.0...and when i download touch of glass...the look of my phone doesn't change...am i putting touch of glass in the wrong file...main qeustion is what to do after i download touch of glass to make it working on my hd2...
thanks for hanging in there with me...really...really appreciate it....VERY MUCH...
no problem....
I thought touch of glass was in cabs.
im at work just now but when I get home ill have a look
touch of glass and diniks cabs need to be installed on device not sd card...soft reset...done
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touch of glass and diniks cabs need to be installed on device not sd card...soft reset...done
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really....i thought most cabs you can run from it ad...i have CHT 2.O...and i found a dinik glass cab for CHT 1.8.5...kind of works except my icons don't look fully right...here's my screen...any suggestions...?
p.s. i did run an anastaisa icon cab...nothing really changed...
yes some do and some don't especially touch glass cabs...need install to device !...why some even have problems with chtscheduler on sd card and have to install it to device (i have no probs on sd card with chts)
as for diniks icons for cht2.0 are available, but a little different (valeria style). you can change all to total dinik valeria icon set for matching
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really....i thought most cabs you can run from it ad...i have CHT 2.O...and i found a dinik glass cab for CHT 1.8.5...kind of works except my icons don't look fully right...here's my screen...any suggestions...?
p.s. i did run an anastaisa icon cab...nothing really changed...
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i dont trust using a cab to install icons.
search out jwmd icon changer and use that, once you have changed the icons you can save them as a theme and switch between sets quickly.
You also need to clear the sense icon cached to make some icons change.
I forgt how to do this manually because jwmd has it built in as a feature.....
and yes, all mods MUST be installed to device memory not sd card.......
conantroutman said:
i dont trust using a cab to install icons.
search out jwmd icon changer and use that, once you have changed the icons you can save them as a theme and switch between sets quickly.
You also need to clear the sense icon cached to make some icons change.
I forgt how to do this manually because jwmd has it built in as a feature.....
and yes, all mods MUST be installed to device memory not sd card.......
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i have both of them...but i really can't figure out jwmd...and i used ssic...its just that all the icons don't have that glass looking template...really possessions me off...lol...but i also have a lot of stuff saved to ad card...and when i tries to uninstall dinik theme it says that it can't be fully removed...and i really don't want to hard reset again...takes for ever to get back...
run the cab again and it will ask if you wish to remove the previous install, say yes then when it asks about device memory or sd card hit cancel and it should be uninstalled....
if not just find the files on your sd card and delete them....
HI guys
I seem to try a lot of roms but would like an easy optioin to go back to my preferred layout. I dont want to use a backup program as I am also learning rom cooking.
OK so what I want to do is take overcome, pack adwlauncher into it AND modify its settings (add icon theme, move front screen icons, add some widgets to the homescreen etc)
I Have been experimenting and not having much luck.
First thing i did was edit the build.prop and modify the density to my liking. Works fine.
I deleted launcher.apk from and added adwlauncher.apk to /system/app.
It boots but no launcher , I assumed it would come up with the default "select program for this action" in first book allowing me to set adwlauncher, but it does not.
So useless to me, no launcher.
How do i do this?
I also assume that there is a better place to put adw so as to allow for updating? Where are market programs stored?
ALSO
How do I change adw's settings to my liking and pre package them?
I assume I can just setup adw how I like, take the config files off my galaxy AND package them into the overcome zip somewhere. Where might they be and where might I need to put them to.
Oh one other thing, adwthemes. These come from market I'm assuming as an apk. If I just add the apk to appropriate place is that enough for adw to see them so that once my config is in place the correct icons will be used.
Thanks very much for any help guys and excuse me if these answers are easy to find, I didnt have much luck with my search terms.
Hopefully one day I will be talented enough to build my own overcome. lol
Oh, for those who dont know, overcome is a rom for our galaxy tabs, forget the references I'm after generic help
I'm not sure, but I believe that putting apps in the /system/app folder makes it more difficult to update them.
I would create a folder called 'data' in your ZIP, with the APK in it. Not sure though, never tested it Perhaps you'll have to modify the update-script too, to make it work, but hey, that's the fun of cooking
I thought so, because that is a protected system folder..
Anyway I half figured this one out. I need to push /data/com.ADWFOLDER with an update script. Re the settings. Unfortunately, I have been told this is impossible..
Can anyone elaborate?
You could possibly try renaming it launcher.apk..
Hi, I modified Animating Flip Clock Widget Beta, created by Peppernut Studios, htc style for my wildfire in the "... ldpi" folder.
I have not changed the code or the name or the size of objects, only the font (which I renamed), the background and the two white boxes where the numbers are put, playing with transparency in PNG images, and I've signed with Auto-Sign v0.65 (for me that I am not a programmer is a miraculous thing).
I'm not interested in the weather, only the clock and its animation, which works beautifully, and the result seems very good, at least for me.
What interested me know is this: if I find out how to change the name, make the other folders (...hdpi and ...mdpi) I can post?
Maybe someone else also like ...
it'is really cool can you doing an mdpi version?
italiano: bello,potresti fare una versione mdpi?
Hi all, I changed to my delight this free application in the Android Market, Animating Flip Clock Widget Beta, created by Peppernut Studios.
I wanted to put on my Wildfire, with rom CyanogenMod 7.1 256 nightly, an animated clock on the type of stock on some HTC (everyone has one but not all of it is animated), but you can not run on the Cyano.
Not being interested in the weather, I focused on this app.
I changed the images and font, without modifying the code, replacing the png files and font directly into the apk open, in fact keeping the proportions established by the author and the names of files, but playing with the transparency of png files.
It should not be unzipped the app, but you have to put items directly nell'apk open (which indeed is but a particular zip), folder in the right positions.
After I signed the file with Auto-Sign v0.65, because otherwise it would not work, and you're done.
Works well
I always wanted this anim...but wasnt the case on wildfire n stock rom & i just rooted my phone two days back with CM nightly latest build...and found ur post..I ws so glad tht yu made the Flip clock to actually Flip I jus luv it dude..looks awesome..thnx a ton for sharing it man
So wats the next update!! including wather too
he works very well,but on my lg optimus one is a little small,but does nothing,i love it
Mindfreak14 said:
I always wanted this anim...but wasnt the case on wildfire n stock rom & i just rooted my phone two days back with CM nightly latest build...and found ur post..I ws so glad tht yu made the Flip clock to actually Flip I jus luv it dude..looks awesome..thnx a ton for sharing it man
So wats the next update!! including wather too
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I'm not interested in the weather, but still I would not be able, I'm not a programmer.
Changing some images is different from changing the code.
Rather, how did you set the single digits for the hours?, I did not succeed.
Mindfreak14 said:
I always wanted this anim...but wasnt the case on wildfire n stock rom & i just rooted my phone two days back with CM nightly latest build...and found ur post..I ws so glad tht yu made the Flip clock to actually Flip I jus luv it dude..looks awesome..thnx a ton for sharing it man
So wats the next update!! including wather too
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Hello, I would explain to me how you managed to put one number on hour, I still trying not succeed, always two numbers. I have as rom the CyanogenMod 256 nightly.
hey. GREAT WORK !!! REALLY GREAT, SUPERB CLOCK now !
Maybe you can modificate this clock ?
It's bigger and its also animated.
leodis said:
Hi all, I changed to my delight this free application in the Android Market, Animating Flip Clock Widget Beta, created by Peppernut Studios.
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As the author of Animating Flip Clock Widget I feel flattered that you've taken it upon yourself to modify my app. Though a link to my original thread would be appreciated.
It's been a while since I've updated this app, but I am working on a completely rewritten version of it. This one will look more like how you've changed it, though it also contains animated weather. So if you're interested you can keep an eye out here on XDA, or on my website.
Mindfreak14 said:
I ws so glad tht yu made the Flip clock to actually Flip
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Just to set the record straight, it was me that made the clock actually flip. But I can understand it might be confusing who does what when so many different technologies are involved.
Mindfreak14 said:
So wats the next update!! including wather too
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I am currently working on weather. But not to hijack this thread, please direct any development queries to this thread and keep any custom styling/theming queries here.
leodis said:
Rather, how did you set the single digits for the hours?, I did not succeed.
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Animating Flip Clock Widget uses one digit for the hour in AM/PM mode, and uses two digits for 24 hour mode. So if you want to change this, go into your phone settings and select the date/time setting and there you'll find a tickbox for that.
Cheers
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szaj said:
Maybe you can modificate this clock ?
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This clock uses a different technique which would involve replacing not just a few images, but a couple of hundred images. So it might be hard to find someone willing to put an enormous effort in to achieve that.
bra1nDeaD said:
As the author of Animating Flip Clock Widget I feel flattered that you've taken it upon yourself to modify my app. Though a link to my original thread would be appreciated.
It's been a while since I've updated this app, but I am working on a completely rewritten version of it. This one will look more like how you've changed it, though it also contains animated weather. So if you're interested you can keep an eye out here on XDA, or on my website.
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I apologize, it was not an intentional thing, just a mistake in composing the message in English, which is not my language, I edited my first post (other thread I opened in Italian, and there I have always mentioned) .. .
Rereading the posts, I saw that at least in the second I mentioned.
Anyway, thanks for your excellent work, on wildfire works beautifully and I removed all other watches that I had.
It would be better if you could increase the size of the watch, but it is good enough.
'll Check your site and your thread Xda
leodis said:
I apologize, it was not an intentional thing, just a mistake in composing the message in English, which is not my language, I edited my first post (other thread I opened in Italian, and there I have always mentioned) .. .
Rereading the posts, I saw that at least in the second I mentioned.
Anyway, thanks for your excellent work, on wildfire works beautifully and I removed all other watches that I had.
It would be better if you could increase the size of the watch, but it is good enough.
'll Check your site and your thread Xda
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No worries, and thank you very much.
My new version will indeed have a slightly larger clock, but I do try to keep it in proportions.
Cheers
Hello, I've come up with something, because you are the creator of the app.
A friend of mine has one of the latest Samsung and app slows it down a lot.
The directory that is used is the folder drawable-hdpi.
great work.....
if you increase the size of the clock it will be my default clock.
in my 3,7 display it's a bit small
regards
Sense 4 widgets..needs resizing
I came across this Thread and was wondering if any dev could resize for our Wildfire...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595236
Hi & 1st off if this is stupid please dont take the piss to badly lol...
years ago i was well into the whole Windows thing, Stripping its resources & making batch files that would find & replace icons that were of a better quality.. They would then be injected into the resource files of the OS so when it was installed it looked nicer...
Now to my idea...
Ive seen lots of nice Themes out there for my phone but dont seem to like any of the theme managers & how they change the feel of the phone & was wondering if its possible to strip the icons (.png ) from these & create an APK that just over writes them directly to the phones installed files..
An example would be the awesome Blue Theme for one of the custom roms you can get.... just having the png files on there own installed without the theme itself..?
Sorry if this is stupid as im only thinking from a windows point of view & dont no really if its possible or even an idea for android..
War3zuk said:
Hi & 1st off if this is stupid please dont take the piss to badly lol...
years ago i was well into the whole Windows thing, Stripping its resources & making batch files that would find & replace icons that were of a better quality.. They would then be injected into the resource files of the OS so when it was installed it looked nicer...
Now to my idea...
Ive seen lots of nice Themes out there for my phone but dont seem to like any of the theme managers & how they change the feel of the phone & was wondering if its possible to strip the icons (.png ) from these & create an APK that just over writes them directly to the phones installed files..
An example would be the awesome Blue Theme for one of the custom roms you can get.... just having the png files on there own installed without the theme itself..?
Sorry if this is stupid as im only thinking from a windows point of view & dont no really if its possible or even an idea for android..
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check the link below, it might be of some help to,also u can PM the OP of that post for any further clarification.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28793952&postcount=134
Wicked
Thats wicked thankyou.... Just what i was after really as I want to learn to do this myself.. Thankz again