Is there a way to bypass the stock exchange security policy yet? I used a hack on my GNEX but need a new one for this phone because of TW (until nonstock roms come out). Thanks
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MynticeLX said:
Is there a way to bypass the stock exchange security policy yet? I used a hack on my GNEX but need a new one for this phone because of TW (until nonstock roms come out). Thanks
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Every Exchange Admin that reads this will cringe.
Rather than hacking the phone, why not ask your Exchange admin if they can alter your device policy?
I won't cringe... But I would remove any device that I caught and report them to our Information Security department....hehehe
In our case, an out of compliance phone would violate multiple federal laws that would get our organization into alot of very expensive hot water.
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Was also going to note, it's grounds for dismissal among other things, like a lawsuit.
But why, you can possibly committing federal crimes by doing this. Do not even mention that you can get fired from your job.
here try this
Unzip to computer plug the phone in and run the .bat file http://db.tt/b6Svh2HB java needs to be installed but this is the only thing that ever worked on 4.0.4 for me
Thanks for this. While you all may have those issues in your business, its not the same in ours.
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If that's the case, why not change the Exchange policy for your device, thus removing the need to hack your phone?
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At some point this summer I plan on buying a new phone, likely an iPhone. My Samsung is currently running Cyanogenmod and the UI blatantly looks much different than a stock phone.
I'm guessing the answer to all this is they won't care, but if you bring in your rooted/customized phone and the people at Verizon are transferring data or anything from that phone to a new phone or otherwise messing with your rooted phone that works fine, do they care if they notice your phone is rooted? Does it violate any terms relating to your overall contract, or does anyone have any experience with them giving you a lecture about not doing that?
I'm not sure if we are violating our contracts... but I can tell you that the last time I was in my local Verizon store, 3 out of the 4 employees I talked to were running rooted phones. If you are nervous, just Odin back to stock before you go in.
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it's in no way a violation of the contract. Android is all open source so you can do what you want. Most people think it's pretty cool if you have a rooted/rommed phone, although I'm sure a few Verizon people frown upon it. If you bought the phone it's yours, you can do what you want lol
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I'm not sure if we are violating our contracts... but I can tell you that the last time I was in my local Verizon store, 3 out of the 4 employees I talked to were running rooted phones. If you are nervous, just Odin back to stock before you go in.
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^ this. I wouldn't be worried and I'd even be surprised if they gave you a dumbfounded look when you said you were; it's no biggie. And yeah, just flash back to stock if anything beforehand.
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it's in no way a violation of the contract. Android is all open source so you can do what you want. Most people think it's pretty cool if you have a rooted/rommed phone, although I'm sure a few Verizon people frown upon it. If you bought the phone it's yours, you can do what you want lol
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You may not be doing anything legally askew, but Verizon is under no obligation to provide any support whatsoever if the phone isn't running the carrier software.
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You may not be doing anything legally askew, but Verizon is under no obligation to provide any support whatsoever if the phone isn't running the carrier software.
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They wouldn't be supporting it. They'd be transferring his account to a new phone, which means he's going to give them money which they usually like. If he was coming in for a repair then they wouldn't. You won't have any problem.
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He was asking if he'd have any trouble with them transferring data like contacts to a new device. If the new device is an android, pretty much everything including contacts is backed up on Google servers so no problem, but if he gets an iPhone like he mentioned, I'm not sure how they would transfer contact data. But that's something it might be helpful to be back on the stock software for. Just my two cents, like I said I don't know how that data transfer between a fascinate and iOS device would go.
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He was asking if he'd have any trouble with them transferring data like contacts to a new device. If the new device is an android, pretty much everything including contacts is backed up on Google servers so no problem, but if he gets an iPhone like he mentioned, I'm not sure how they would transfer contact data. But that's something it might be helpful to be back on the stock software for. Just my two cents, like I said I don't know how that data transfer between a fascinate and iOS device would go.
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They would probably use the Verizon backup app.
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They would probably use the Verizon backup app.
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This. I don't understand why verizon intervention is necessary here. Install the app and do it yourself without a trip to the store. It'd take all of 2 minutes to accomplish?
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They would probably use the Verizon backup app.
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That's what I thought too, but didn't know if that app comes on iPhones. I thought they came free of any carrier software, which is something I've gotta give Apple credit for. Although knowing how simple they make iOS devices for technologically unsavvy people, I've gotta think there's a pretty simple way to get your contacts.
I'm not really sure what you'd need Verizon for when getting a new device either, the only thing I can think of is getting your sim card for an LTE device.
Well, just bricked my NFC somehow after flashing a Rom and I guess something didn't reset even tho I cleared out google wallet, precautions, etc.
That's neither here nor there tho. I just want to know if anyone has had trouble exchanging a rooted phone at best buy?
Please give me some suggestions. While google wallet is pretty much a gimmick, I like to be able to have the gimmick. Lol. But if I am stuck with the phone then that's okay too.
Edit: I'm still within 14 days of buying the phone...
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If the sales associate at best buy even knows how to get into recovery I'd be surprised..
Does it brick the NFC function or just google wallet ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701754&page=2
Specifically posts #17 and #18.
BTW, how can I test my NFC myself? I don't think it's broken, I have no reason to believe it is, but how would I go about testing it from the comfort of my own home?
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Does it brick the NFC function or just google wallet ?
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NFC secure element not responding. So basically just google wallet is broke as beam will still work. Neither feature is a necessity for me, but I put $ on the card.
Also have WiFi disconnecting like crazy too, so kinda want to exchange it for that since I'm still within 14 days.
What u guys think?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701754&page=2
Specifically posts #17 and #18.
BTW, how can I test my NFC myself? I don't think it's broken, I have no reason to believe it is, but how would I go about testing it from the comfort of my own home?
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Cool, hope my experience goes this well. Have a friend who works in mobile at my store too, but he is kinda hard to read. He knows I root my phones. Think there's a 30% chance he will give me hassle.
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I know there is no way of knowing now but the new NFC thing sprints comming out with , I wonder if this issue will affect that ?
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I know there is no way of knowing now but the new NFC thing sprints comming out with , I wonder if this issue will affect that ?
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it will use a secure element just like google wallet same thing different app
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it will use a secure element just like google wallet same thing different app
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How do you know if you bricked it. I got my prepaid card and flashed another Rom and forgot to reset wallet . Now all wallet does is hang at the activating screen. I just got off the phone with a google rep and he said if I got to the activating part then more that likely your not bricked. He said it won't let you in the app if secure element is bricked . He did say if you got the secure element message than you'll need to replace your phone
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NFC secure element not responding. So basically just google wallet is broke as beam will still work. Neither feature is a necessity for me, but I put $ on the card.
Also have WiFi disconnecting like crazy too, so kinda want to exchange it for that since I'm still within 14 days.
What u guys think?
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I work at BBYM I could careless if a phone was rooted if a basic feature of the phone was broke. Shouldn't have a problem. And like another user said, some people don't even know what recovery is....
Btw you have 30 days to exchange the phone. 14 days to return and get your upgrade back.
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Messing up my secure element has worried me too. I accidentally ran regaws root method and didn't reset google wallet, though it didn't brick it for some reason. I am lucky.
Are you getting the secure element message? If not, then you're good and you just need to do the fix that is found in the dev subforum here. I've done it twice and it works. You have to do it after any flash of a Rom.
Also, I really don't get the "im too good for wallet" attitude. I have used it and its very cool! I paid for gas at Sheetz right at the gas pump. Didn't go inside, didn't have to key in debt stuff. And it isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something rather useless and wallet is something I find useful for me personally. Also, when the iPhone adopts NFC technology and all the Apple zombies begin using it, the popularity will move faster.
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Messing up my secure element has worried me too. I accidentally ran regaws root method and didn't reset google wallet, though it didn't brick it for some reason. I am lucky.
Are you getting the secure element message? If not, then you're good and you just need to do the fix that is found in the dev subforum here. I've done it twice and it works. You have to do it after any flash of a Rom.
Also, I really don't get the "im too good for wallet" attitude. I have used it and its very cool! I paid for gas at Sheetz right at the gas pump. Didn't go inside, didn't have to key in debt stuff. And it isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something rather useless and wallet is something I find useful for me personally. Also, when the iPhone adopts NFC technology and all the Apple zombies begin using it, the popularity will move faster.
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This loi used mine at sheetz as well
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Also, when the iPhone adopts NFC technology and all the Apple zombies begin using it, the popularity will move faster.
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This, unfortunately, is true. Except first Apple will announce it as iPay or something so they'll all think it was their idea, and probably sue Google over it as well.
My phone is perfect and if I screwed up wallet I wouldn't bother taking my phone back. From what I read Google isn't even going to support our phones anymore anyways. Unless you have a supported Citicard, I think its dumb to use a credit card just to fund Wallet to then be limited to were you could use it. Wallet is pointless and useless and those who break it won't be missing out on much.
just lock it and ruu the phone or whatever is needed to get rid of that red text on the splash screen and hope for the best. If they are smart enough to boot into the bootloader they are doing it to try to deny a warranty, no other reason to go into it.
I'm not sure if BB even has a policy on that since the unlocking the bootloader thing is your warranty through HTC that is being affected.
Also, if you have never used google wallet I assume you don't have to reset it or whatever when you reflash do you? I have never used it so I never worried about resetting it. I wouldn't care if it didn't work though since I will never use google wallet for anything but maybe trying to get the free money that's on there.
Ok when does the secure element message popup ? When you trying to open the app or when you try to make a purchase?
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I exchanged mine the other day at BB for the same reason. The manager reset it a couple times and then just did a swap for a new one. Didn't boot into recovery that I could see, but I was sure to remove root, relock the bootloader & run the RUU first.
I've had this subscription for months now (haven't watched anything but have in the past) and tonight I figured I'd watch something and I get a notification that I can't watch anything because I'm rooted...oh but they can take my money though cancelling this right quick!
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kenohki88 said:
I've had this subscription for months now (haven't watched anything but have in the past) and tonight I figured I'd watch something and I get a notification that I can't watch anything because I'm rooted...oh but they can take my money though cancelling this right quick!
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lol!! i'm sorry to see that. That is seriously the first time i've ever seen anything about redbox and rooting conflict.... wonder if theres a work around?
kenohki88 said:
I've had this subscription for months now (haven't watched anything but have in the past) and tonight I figured I'd watch something and I get a notification that I can't watch anything because I'm rooted...oh but they can take my money though cancelling this right quick!
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Redbox instant is a joke.
I signed up for an account on 3/20 and went to rent a movie with one of my remaining 3 credits but it was declined. When I called they said it was because they tried billing me for the next month but I didn't have money in my account. They were billing me a week early and refused to let me use my credits I already paid for until they got their money for the next month.
I'll never use redbox again.
Eh it worked when I first signed up but I went to go try tonight and I got this so I cancelled....funny thing is it wouldn't let me cancel either haha so I cancelled via browser hahaha. And the whole time I've had it I've used maybe 5 credits was pissd when I couldn't use credits to rent blurays...as of tonight I'm back with Netflix
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I use netflix but even that isn't all that great.
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Also how does rooting cause a security issue to you or then? I have never heard of such a stupid thing. I guess I could see it causing security issues with yourself if your stupid and grant unknown apps permission but that's it, and most people are smart enough not to allow everything they see. But how would that cause a security issue with them?
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Good for Enterprise app, which is supposed to offer a secure access to corporate email has the same policy--it doesn't work on rooted devices.
I also always wondered how being rooted affected security. If you are a well written app, should not you be secure in all circumstances and not rely on the standard system protection of your data? After all, secure apps work on Windows which is most of the time rooted by default.
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With redbox instant its not about security of financial information its about being able to extract and save content in my opinion.
With corporate email its generally a security policy.
Adam Outler (I think may be someone else though) actually did a write up and gave some presentations on reasons why rooted phones such as those the official CM dev teams support are actually more secure than their non rooted counterpart, same device without root.
In a nutshell, a basic idea is that developers find an exploit, like say an open door. They then put a secure tunnel in its place and close the door behind them, so said exploit is always open on a non rooted phone but on a rooted phone, they not only closed the door after walking through but also replaced the standard door with a bank vault door. That analogy is mine, and I'm just giving a real basic dumbed down summary of the theory.
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Edit.... Google Wallet now works and installs from the market.
I would absolutely LOVE someone to hook up Google wallet to work with the i717. I tried installing the apk. It installed but when I open it, it says unsupported device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wFhy0O4hWc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
May be this will work
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wFhy0O4hWc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
May be this will work
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Thanks for the video. Unfortunately he says it doesn't work on TouchWiz roms. Which is what I'm using currently. He mentions a hack though. I'll have to dig for it.
Yes, thats why I dinot try. All the best
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Its doesn't work for a reason...the note lacks a secure element...using a hacked apk is asking for trouble. Without the secure element your card data is not secure...hence the need for the hardware...
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D150shorty said:
Its doesn't work for a reason...the note lacks a secure element...using a hacked apk is asking for trouble. Without the secure element your card data is not secure...hence the need for the hardware...
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It works on custom roms, just not roms with touchwiz. So the hardware is there. It's lacking development. And if you turn off nfc you can't get hacked. Idk why anyone would leave nfc on all the time. It has a small drain on the battery and I rarely bump info to friends. I rarely carry my wallet because it's bulky and you could be pick pocketed just as easier than being hacked. It would be handy to tap a widget enabling nfc, tap my phone for payment, then turn off nfc. You could steal my phone, but by the time you would be able to crack my screen lock, it would be remotely wiped. Try remote wiping your wallet that was just pick pocketed!
We've gone through this before. It won't work. Good luck trying though.
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unfortunately he's right, i tried for weeks to work on this and with no avail. I finally got it installed and it didnt even work, even though i got past the device compatibility issue.
Edit: they are coming out with a samsung Wallet and it should be available through the playstore but i cant find it. It must be rolling out to certain states
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We've gone through this before. It won't work. Good luck trying though.
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It works on custom roms, just not roms with touchwiz. So the hardware is there. It's lacking development. And if you turn off nfc you can't get hacked. Idk why anyone would leave nfc on all the time. It has a small drain on the battery and I rarely bump info to friends. I rarely carry my wallet because it's bulky and you could be pick pocketed just as easier than being hacked. It would be handy to tap a widget enabling nfc, tap my phone for payment, then turn off nfc. You could steal my phone, but by the time you would be able to crack my screen lock, it would be remotely wiped. Try remote wiping your wallet that was just pick pocketed!
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It may work with some ROMs, but not the way it was intended. The secure element is needed to protect and encrypt certain data. So no, technically the hardware is NOT there. Its not about making the software work. And you don't need nfc to steal that data, nor does one need to steal the phone. Hacking the software defeats the purpose of protecting the data. Tbe secure element is a physical hardware safe zone for card data. ..and the note does not have one. There is rumor of a SIM based secure element coming out, but I'm sure by the time it does I will have moved on to the Note 3 And on a final note, if you use a hackware APK to make wallet work, you might as well post your card info on facebook for the world to see...eventually somebody WILL compromise your card
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Tbe secure element is a physical hardware safe zone for card data. ..and the note does not have one.
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I appreciate your knowledge and that you're sharing with me. So you're saying my note with stock firmware is not secure and I should not put any credit info on it? If that's true then anyone whoever bought an app from the playstore is compromised.
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Edit: they are coming out with a samsung Wallet and it should be available through the playstore but i cant find it. It must be rolling out to certain states
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The U.S. version of Samsung Wallet doesn’t appear to support credit cards and mobile payments at this time. The Korean version of theSamsung Wallet app allows users to add credit cards*for faster online payments, though it doesn’t appear that these cards can link up to the NFC chip to make mobile payments at a brick and mortar retailer.In the U.S. version of Samsung Wallet, there are no options for mobile payments, possibly due to the various carrier agreements that prevent Google Wallet from working on the most popular devices, including the latest Samsung devices.Users who want to try Samsung Wallet on the Galaxy S4, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2 and other Samsung devices in the U.S. can open Samsung Apps on their device. Search for Samsung Wallet and then choose install. The app will show up in the app*launcher*just like apps downloaded through Google Play.
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I appreciate your knowledge and that you're sharing with me. So you're saying my note with stock firmware is not secure and I should not put any credit info on it? If that's true then anyone whoever bought an app from the playstore is compromised.
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Ah but your credit info is secure on the merchant's end ( or at least theoretically supposed to be lmao) See, when you make purchases where enter your card information, the merchant's server both secures and encrypts that data, theoretcially keeping it safe. When you something lile google wallet, the data has to protected from the start i.e. on your phone. The only way to do so is with the secure element, which is like a little island, heavily guarded, and only when the proper handshake is given can it be accessed. The reason for this is unlike purchases over the net that utilize a cloud system for secure info is that the phone itself must store this info so it can communicate through NFC to the recipient device. And the only way to SECURELY do so is the secure element. Can it be done without it? Absolutely. Should it be? Absolutely not. You must consider the merchants take on this. What merchant would want to partake in an unsecure payment system? Being as that eventually it comes out of their pocket when fraud occurs...none. Hence the primary reason that carriers don't want to allow G Wallet use on devices not containing a secure element (that, and the fact want to get in on the money making themselves). I work in the financial industry, so I promise you don't want to use a hacked APK. Not because the individual that hacked it has done anything, but because the hacked APK has been modified to not require the secure element, and that card data now sits vulnerable on a device/sd card...
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Also thought I'd point out that G Wallet and Samsung Wallet DO work on S3 S4 and Note 2 because they contain the secure element
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Edit: they are coming out with a samsung Wallet and it should be available through the playstore but i cant find it. It must be rolling out to certain states
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Samsung wallet is available through the Samsung App Store, but its not a mobile payment system. It's more like Apple's passport.
daveschz said:
Samsung wallet is available through the Samsung App Store, but its not a mobile payment system. It's more like Apple's passport.
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Yes I mentioned that 3 posts up and 17 days ago.
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Yes I mentioned that 3 posts up and 17 days ago.
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Y'all should take a look at system/etc/nfcee_access.xml
I see wallet for google and samsung.
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Y'all should take a look at system/etc/nfcee_access.xml
I see wallet for google and samsung.
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Yup, it's in there, but ATT aint never going to let it happen
Google Wallet now works and is available from the market!! YaY!
Does anyone know if Knox can protect against law enforcement collecting data out of your device short of physically tearing the thing apart and physically extracting the data directly from storage?
You planning something really bad?
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Planning? No. Just like to be prepared for certain scenarios. The one currently in my head is my phone gets illegally confiscated. Is my data safe long enough for me to get home, go into my remote management console and wipe the device?
Remote wiping isn't a new technology. If police confiscate cell phones they typically turn them off (pull the battery most likely) until a qualified tech investigator can inspect it. I think you can pretty much guarantee that they would pull the sim out of it before firing it up just as protocol. No sim, no communication with the device....no wipe.
Well that blows. Sounds like I would need an app that always listens and can wipe the device from a spoken trigger.
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You planning something really bad?
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It would be bad for business if his phone here confiscated if you know what I mean
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Even if wiped, the data is still recoverable by law enforcement.
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Even if wiped, the data is still recoverable by law enforcement.
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Correct.
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If you downloaded the data over Verizon's network, then law enforcement already has your data.
Well, I wholly intend to make use of built-in encryption, s/mime and a VPN to home. I'm not so much worried about my data getting intercepted en route. I don't think I'm "safe" (who is), though. I'm just trying to see what Knox can do for me with my Don't Tread On Me stance when it comes to The Man.