ok, some info, i'm coming from the captivate (SGS1), on that phone if you were in a full screen app, or the camera was active, the screen wouldn't turn off regardless of the time out setting.
on this phone i have the timeout on 30 seconds with the stay on mode enabled for when i'm looking at the screen, this works really well except the above doesn't work, when the camera is on or the app is full screen it still times out. this becomes REALLY annoying when doing things like google hangouts as it hangs up the call when the screen turns off.
am i missing a setting? how can i keep the screen on when the app is full screen (games, movies, etc)?
thanks
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Hi All!
I've pretty much got my Photon setup the way I want it to look and act except for the home screen lock time. I don't mind the screen turning off so quickly, but every time it turns off, the home screen locks. Is there a way to change the lock out time? The lock slider gets annoying when I have to keep doing it during text conversations or if I'm streaming Pandora in the car and I have to unlock the screen to see what's playing, etc.
Also, I have my screen turn off time set to 1 minute, but it seems like it turns off in about 15 seconds. Any help with this would be appreciated as well.
Thanks for the help!
Did you try going into Settings>Applications>Development?
Ok, so I've found the section in 'Display' and switched Smart Stay on, but it doesn't seem to do anything. The small eye icon never appears on the notification bar, and the function doesn't work. I've noticed that with auto-brightness the screen is pretty much always really dim, and I noticed that smart stay won't work when the room is dim - does the phone think the light's too low and never switches the function on?
Hmm, off to try...
It does state when you activate it that it wont work in low light
Yeah, so perhaps it's the auto-brightness that's at fault? Been in daylight today and with the lights on at home - screen's been dim 90% of the time...
Right i too thought smart stay wasnt working. I too never saw the eye.
BUT... Having played with it some more heres how it works well in my eyes anyway
The eye icon only appears when the light is at the end of its duration setting.
For example i set mine to 15 seconds beacuse i wasnt sure it was working.
So every 15 seconds if your looking at your phone the eye will flicker on.
If its set at a minute you rarely see it as 60 seconds is a pretty long time to look at the screen with out pressing ought.
I hope this makes sense. Just set light time out to 15 secs to see what i mean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683979
I thought it wasnt working properly since every now and again id spot this icon flashing up and going just as fast as it came on, but i figure, its a battery saving method, so it wouldnt permanetly be tracking your eyes with the camera like the xbox kinect for instance, it comes on for a split second, if it recognises eyes are open and looking it stays on if not it turns off... i tested this, changed screen dim to 15 seconds for test purposes, staired at it whilst on web browser and every 10 seconds the icon flashed up and screen stayed on, closed my eyes counted to 10 and the screen was off
Hey Guys,
Initially before I got my phone I had another perception on how smart stay works and was a bit disappointed...
My thoughts were, that if you are reading something it checks up on you if you are still looking = Screen stays on and if you look away it turns off.
The breaking point in what I thought was, that after the screen has shut down and you look at it again (Lets say a time frame of 5-10 Seconds) it turns on again.
I hope some DEV reads this and could make a MOD or something like that. Would be really cool and I dont think, that programming that is that tough.
Regardless of this I would love to have Smart Stay as a toggle option in the 15 Toggle mode or something, is that possible?
Thanks in advance
think that you have put your phone aside after looking at it. And it will have to monitor your eyes on that time too. Too much battery drain because camera needs to be on all the time! this is why samsung didnt enabled this!
Ruchira88 said:
think that you have put your phone aside after looking at it. And it will have to monitor your eyes on that time too. Too much battery drain because camera needs to be on all the time! this is why samsung didnt enabled this!
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The camera does not need to be on "all the time". The way it works is as follows:
- The screen timeout is set to a certain time - let's say 30 seconds. After 30 seconds have elapsed, the screen will turn off if Smart Stay is not activated.
- If Smart Stay is active, after 30 seconds the camera will switch on and determine whether you are looking at the screen. If it determines you are, it will trigger the screen to stay on for another 30 seconds, after which it will do the same again, and so on. Once it has confirmed you're looking at the screen, the camera will switch off again.
Hence in fact the camera only needs to go on for a very short period of time - just enough to see your eyes, basically. You'll know it's doing this because it briefly shows an eye icon in the notification bar.
Yeah and I meant that after the screen is off it just should monitor for another 30 seconds or so
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Which would increase battery drain tenfold.
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- If Smart Stay is active, after 30 seconds the camera will switch on and determine whether you are looking at the screen. If it determines you are, it will trigger the screen to stay on for another 30 seconds, after which it will do the same again, and so on. Once it has confirmed you're looking at the screen, the camera will switch off again.
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ok lets say screen is turned off and camera is checking eyes once every 30seconds. what if I happen to look at it on the 15th second
i have put this in smart stay threads before, if only people would search before asking questions.
anyway, in order for smart stay to work well this condition must be met - open front camera and look at it if you can see your face and it isn't darkened then smart stay will work well. because some may ask that smart stay doesn't work even if lighting is good, that is because your face is darkened because of shadow and you are at the back of lighting.
if that condition is met then :
1. smart stay should be enabled obviously. set screen timeout to 15 seconds.
2. look at screen, you will see in 5 seconds the eye icon for smart stay will light up
3. turn your phone at an angle away from your face but enough that you can see the eye icon 5 seconds later.
- this time the screen dims but not turn off.
4. face phone screen again, 5 seconds later eye appears the screen brightens up.
5. repeat step 3, screen dims. then this time remain not looking at screen.
- after dim, 5 seconds later eye checks again and detects you're not facing screen thus it turns off screen.
now some will be thinking, having the front camera turn on at intervals will just use more battery. the thing is,turning the front cam to sense your face for just about 2 seconds at intervals won't consume as much battery consumed as compared to the display still turned on for 15,30seconds,1minute or more even when you're not using the phone.
purpose of smart stay:
1. already well-known since this is what they advertise for this feature, keep light on so you don't have to annoyingly touch the screen at intervals you think the screen timeout is nearing so as not to be inconvenienced by the screen turning off when you are reading or browsing.
2. THIS IS THE MAIN PURPOSE - to turn off display way before the screen timeout because there's no use having the display still on when you're not using the phone. we all know the display is one of the things that can drain battery fast. this is very helpful for those who set there screen timeout to 1minute or more.
note : the time interval for smart stay checking/eye appearing is different for the screen timeout interval you set.
a bit harsh but quite correct, he took time out to give you an explanation, and a very good one, a hit on the thanks button is what you should have done! Nice one radeon :thumbup::thumbup:
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radeonxt said:
i have put this in smart stay threads before, if only people would search before asking questions.
anyway, in order for smart stay to work well this condition must be met - open front camera and look at it if you can see your face and it isn't darkened then smart stay will work well. because some may ask that smart stay doesn't work even if lighting is good, that is because your face is darkened because of shadow and you are at the back of lighting.
if that condition is met then :
1. smart stay should be enabled obviously. set screen timeout to 15 seconds.
2. look at screen, you will see in 5 seconds the eye icon for smart stay will light up
3. turn your phone at an angle away from your face but enough that you can see the eye icon 5 seconds later.
- this time the screen dims but not turn off.
4. face phone screen again, 5 seconds later eye appears the screen brightens up.
5. repeat step 3, screen dims. then this time remain not looking at screen.
- after dim, 5 seconds later eye checks again and detects you're not facing screen thus it turns off screen.
now some will be thinking, having the front camera turn on at intervals will just use more battery. the thing is,turning the front cam to sense your face for just about 2 seconds at intervals won't consume as much battery consumed as compared to the display still turned on for 15,30seconds,1minute or more even when you're not using the phone.
purpose of smart stay:
1. already well-known since this is what they advertise for this feature, keep light on so you don't have to annoyingly touch the screen at intervals you think the screen timeout is nearing so as not to be inconvenienced by the screen turning off when you are reading or browsing.
2. THIS IS THE MAIN PURPOSE - to turn off display way before the screen timeout because there's no use having the display still on when you're not using the phone. we all know the display is one of the things that can drain battery fast. this is very helpful for those who set there screen timeout to 1minute or more.
note : the time interval for smart stay checking/eye appearing is different for the screen timeout interval you set.
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Also, don't forget to mention "SMART STAY doesn's work in dark". It can't see your face well.
Ok, I have a voice changer app that I want to use with the screen off. Ideally I'd start the app, turn on real-time processing, then turn the screen off. Currently, it only runs when the screen is on, as soon as I turn the screen off the app stops all voice processing. Screen needs to be off so the battery will last longer, and so the settings can't be changed accidentally (so touch has to be disabled as well).
I either need the app to keep running in the background, or have the screen turn off but not actually locked (I dunno the right term, but if the screen was off and didn't accept touch input, but the phone thought the screen was on...that'd be fine).
Closest I've found is to edit the AndroidManifest.xml file to set it persistent, then make it a system app. This will take me a while to figure out, and not even sure it'll work.
Is there some simple solution I'm overlooking? I've seen an app that turns off the screen with help from the proximity sensor...but I want the screen off whether it's in my pocket or lying on top of a table.
Edit: I tried some apps that use the proximity sensor to turn off the screen; as soon as the screen goes off, the voice changer app just stops. I have no idea what's triggering it (if the phone is actually entering a sleep state, or if the app is specifically watching for the screen to go off and suspends itself). Thought that might be a workaround, but nope.
So I've noticed when using smart view to cast to a TV screen, the phone screen will turn to a low power mode, that says smart view, press power or swipe to turn on. My concern is that this image causes image persistence once smart view is done, and could eventually lead to burn in. Does anyone know if this screen moves, like the Always on Display images do; or if there is a way to disable this screen without disabling the screen staying potentially awake the whole time. It may not be possible, but I wanted to see if anyone had any experience. The only possible workaround I've come up with is to use the android native casting feature (via nova and a widgets activity) and perhaps the following app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skin1980.screenoffkeepplaying
I'm finding that mine doesn't always enter the power saving while mirroring which I wish it would when I want it to. If I turn the screen off while mirroring, then ask Google voice to play next song or something the screen mirroring wakes up and display on the external screen and puts the power save mode on the phone which is what I'd expect.
I wish mine did this without having to turn the screen off and the wake it up with voice. If I wake it up with the power button then screen mirror comes on b I t so does the normal screen on the phone.
Maybe we can swap ha ha.
Anyone else not getting the power save option when mirroring? I need to turn the screen off then ask Google to do something for the power save to work. Turning the screen back on doesn't help, just asking Google voice seems to bring it back. I was hoping it would just time out and start automatically. Samsung don't seem to understand their own options, with them telling me that it's not possible until I pointed out it's a software feature if their phone then they went silent.