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without having s-off?
i really just want the perm root until they can get all the kinks of of these early ROMs
No.
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ah ok
because right now they making stock custom roms
and..... that just seems silly?
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Root is available. Head to the development section to learn how to root and flash a recovery.
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you don't need to flash any of the ROMs if you dont like them. I would root in case HTC/sprint sends a forced update. Might as well right?
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Ok sounds Good to me... Thanx!
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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Permanent root means S-off and a few other things. People are talking about HTC when they speak of unlocking bootloaders. If you root your phone through AlphaREV, your phone will be permanently rooted.
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vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Thanks!
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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This^, my answer was half-arsed lol.
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Awesome, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know. So now I can go ahead and root my phone and wait for the next badass ROM (hopefully CM!) for this phone!
Ok guys Ive never rooted a phone. I've never had the balls to do so but I'm tempted to do so. Ok first of all why should I root? Second how do I root? Would I be voiding my warranty? and I need someone to guide me I'm not the smartest nor dumbest computer user. I would I truly appreciate if someone who has time to show me how to get this done I truly don't want to screw up my phone. thanks in advance for those that take time to respond.
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First of all, you can only root HBOOT 1.300 and HBOOT 1.400 devices. If you updated to OTA 2.08, you have HBOOT 1.500 and will need to wait for a root for that.
As to your first question, there are MANY MANY reasons to root. One thing you can do is use applications that require root access, such as free tethering or freezing applications. The major thing with rooting, however, is being able to change ROMs. Changing a ROM is basically like customizing the whole OS. You can do so many things! Rooting your phone and unlocking your NAND (Part of revolutionary process) is something that will make your life better.
Now, your section question asks how you root. As I said, if you are on HBOOT 1.500, you can't root your phone. To check your HBOOT version, you can power down and then hold volume down while booting back up. It will take you to the bootloader menu and at the top it should tell you which HBOOT version you have. If you are on HBOOT 1.300 or 1.4000, you can use the video walkthrough here: Video Walkthrough
I used the video walkthrough to root my own phone. Revolutionary root is in it's beta which means it's not perfect and its not like nothing can wrong.
Rooting will void your software warranty, but I heard sprint is changing that.
voiding the software? can you explain. Also i did receive the latest update so meaning i have to wait.
frankrmz said:
voiding the software? can you explain. Also i did receive the latest update so meaning i have to wait.
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Well, the warranty on the phone is only for the software. This means if the phone one day decides to stop turning on, get a black screen, etc. you can still get it replaced for free. After you root it, they won't replace the phone for free the stuff above happens. They probably won't know that you're rooted if the phone completely stops turning on, though.
Got I guess I have to wait. Hopefully once the root for the update comes you can help if I were to have questions.. Thanks for taking time and answering must of my questions
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Got I guess I have to wait. Hopefully once the root for the update comes you can help if I were to have questions.. Thanks for taking time and answering must of my questions
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Shoot me a PM if you need any more help!
Do you know if this new root came out
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Got I guess I have to wait. Hopefully once the root for the update comes you can help if I were to have questions.. Thanks for taking time and answering must of my questions
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yes like he said you will have to wait but it shouldn't be long.the reason for rooting are freeing up space on the phone,wifi tether for free,lots of great apps u cant get without root and of course the ability to customize as much as you like.now if u dont really want to do any of those things then i wouldnt root also rooting does void your warranty but u can always sbf back to stock and like it was said if u mess up to the point your phone wont turn on they will never know anyway.
edit: when or if you are ready to root and want help through the process let me know u can pm me its basically what i do these days lol i have helped about 10 people this week with rooting and roms
Thanks man. Both you guys have been very helpfull thanks I will for sure need
Help. Where can I find out once the new root is available?
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It will be in the dev thread also check revolutionary website which is in that thread as well under guide on root roms ect
I shot the maid! What can I say? 3vo shooter
There are definitely ways to root via Hboot 1.500.000 IDK what these people are talking about....
You cannot get s-off if you didn't have it prior to the 1.5hboot but you can still flash kernels, roms, and radios...
If you'd still like to know how or need any help with the process let me know.
I did the over the air 2.08 update, what do I need to do to root me phone?
I was able to get my 3d rooted before the update and i have to say that i am so glad that i did. There are so many more options available to you after doing so as mentioned by previous posters. The abundance of ROMS is sweet! I like Viper the best for the moment but looking forward to a full AOSP.
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I did the over the air 2.08 update, what do I need to do to root me phone?
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Follow this tutorial
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
Follow it to a t... do everything he says, afterwards you will be rooted, if you need any help flashing roms or ANYTHING let me know
EDIT: The website says you cannot flash kernels, which is false, it just cannot be done via recovery, and needs to be done via fasboot/abd. again if you need any help just let me know
can this update be done if you are rooted and unlock?
It is always recommended to not accept any ota updates once rooted as you may lose root and the ability to root in the future. The dev's will post a stock rooted updated rom within a day or two. I would wait and flash that.
I'm sure you could, but give the devs time they will work this into an update fairly quickly I"m sure. you never know what OTA is going to break root or worse.
I wouldn't take the OTA. be patient
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I'm sure you could, but give the devs time they will work this into an update fairly quickly I"m sure. you never know what OTA is going to break root or worse.
I wouldn't take the OTA. be patient
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Thanks I appreciate the quick response.
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
ReproOne said:
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
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I wouldn't trust it.
ReproOne said:
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
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Take the advises from above and wait. I'm also waiting a little longer before flashing a ROM. If you want the fixes from this update just download MEAN ROM and install it, it already has most of this fixes incorporate. The most important feature for me is tethering and I already got it.
chico1983 said:
can this update be done if you are rooted and unlock?
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It's being discussed all over the boards... But, yes, this update breaks root...
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It's being discussed all over the boards... But, yes, this update breaks root...
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Anyone know if it removes s-off?
I'm half rooted not unlock can I take it i don't mind if I loose it
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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There is a new hboot included in this ota so i would be very careful even if s-off.
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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There is a new hboot included in this ota so i would be very careful even if s-off.
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Dang njfoses. xHausx's comment was going to give me confidence enough to update and then you go and throw some doubt back in my mind. Oh well.
So Sprint just came out with an update. I rooted my phone but have not flashed any custom rom yet.
Can I run the update or do I need to wait to flash a rom with the update?
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you need to wait in case they patch the lazy panda exploit.
Once a dev has one that is prerooted they will post it up in the dev forum.
If you are using RootKeeper and have just root with stock ROM, can you apply the OTA update and then restore root with RootKeeper?
another noob question
I am getting confused on root vs. unlocked vs. s-off.
I used htc dev. to, I guess, unlock my phone (I thought this was rooting). I know I do NOT have s-off yet. I did read some post, a while ago, that talked unlocked and s-off (I think, I can't find that post anymore). I used the following to "Root" method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 . It looks like that only unlocks your phone.
I want to install twrp and can't figure out what method I am suppose to use to install it. Goo Manager vs. fastboot method? It says if you are unlocked AND rooted you can use Goo Manager. If you are only unlocked then fastboot.
Can someone please help me to understand?
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At this point, HTC dev unlock has all the same capabilities as s-off, so even if this ota blocks the lazy panda exploit, just go the HTC dev route.
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At this point, HTC dev unlock has all the same capabilities as s-off, so even if this ota blocks the lazy panda exploit, just go the HTC dev route.
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No it doesn't. You don't have full nand write, which means no custom radios and no custom bootloader (such as getting rid of red text)
Thank you everyone! I now have s-off, and have twrp installed. I am ready to have fun now!
I have already rooted using RagawMod. My question is if I update software to 1.22.651.3 will it mess up root access or should I unroot then update software and re-root?
Thanks in adfvance for any help
If you do the ota update Yes it'll mess up root. Why not flash a custom rom that's based on the new update?
NEVER unroot in order to take an OTA.
Also, get full S-OFF while you still can.
In order to upgrade now that you are rooted, you flash a custom ROM. Thats it. Don't take the OTA, don't unroot.
RE-root
The reason I asked is I just saw the have a new root for the new OTA 1.22.651.3. Was not sure if the new OTA fixed some of the bugs with the LTE?
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The reason I asked is I just saw the have a new root for the new OTA 1.22.651.3. Was not sure if the new OTA fixed some of the bugs with the LTE?
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What root are you referring to? All I'm aware of is HTC dev, and thats not what you want to use. Get full S-OFF while you can
Flashing a ROM that's based on the new OTA will give you all of the fixes of the OTA without screwing up your device.
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What root are you referring to? All I'm aware of is HTC dev, and thats not what you want to use. Get full S-OFF while you can
Flashing a ROM that's based on the new OTA will give you all of the fixes of the OTA without screwing up your device.
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What are the pro's to updating? I just got my EVO a couple days ago and its on 1.13.651.1 71ORD. I won't be getting any OTA's because I plan on rooting and getting full s-off. I still need to read the forums a little more before I do any of that. I've never flashed ROMs before so if that is the only way to update then I might hold off on that for now, unless there are some good reasons why I need to do it.
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What are the pro's to updating? I just got my EVO a couple days ago and its on 1.13.651.1 71ORD. I won't be getting any OTA's because I plan on rooting and getting full s-off. I still need to read the forums a little more before I do any of that. I've never flashed ROMs before so if that is the only way to update then I might hold off on that for now, unless there are some good reasons why I need to do it.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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If you're rooted you should be able to flash MeanROM, i didn't take the ota but im s-on and am running it
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Still not sure why I would want the update after I root and get s-off. All I really want to do at the moment is root so I can delete all the sprint garbage and get rid of sense. I know doing the OTA is a no-no, but is there anything I should think about doing after I root? Can anyone recommend the best way to go about that? I'm basically a new, but I want to make sure I have the ability to mess with my phone down the road.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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You cannot get S-OFF if you took the OTA. Simple as that.
You can still flash ROMS though
Yep i still have s-off after taking the OTA it is just my hboot is different