without having s-off?
i really just want the perm root until they can get all the kinks of of these early ROMs
No.
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ah ok
because right now they making stock custom roms
and..... that just seems silly?
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Root is available. Head to the development section to learn how to root and flash a recovery.
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you don't need to flash any of the ROMs if you dont like them. I would root in case HTC/sprint sends a forced update. Might as well right?
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Ok sounds Good to me... Thanx!
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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Permanent root means S-off and a few other things. People are talking about HTC when they speak of unlocking bootloaders. If you root your phone through AlphaREV, your phone will be permanently rooted.
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vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Thanks!
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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This^, my answer was half-arsed lol.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Awesome, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know. So now I can go ahead and root my phone and wait for the next badass ROM (hopefully CM!) for this phone!
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How do I achieve s-off? Can I revese HTC unlock method? Is there a thread or answer available? I'm not a complete noob at rooting but got excited and didn't read thoroughly before committing to the HTC process. Started sifting through threads and haven't discovered an answer yet... Please help
I've been trying to sift through them as well just out of curiosity. Here is what I have gleaned from all of the threads on this subject:
1) Unless you previously had s-off through revolutionary, the HTC method will not give you or currently allow you to get s-off
2) Although the HTC method does unlock the boot loader, other things are still locked preventing you from flashing a custom recovery.
3) Currently there is no way to root or get super user access once you've applied the HTC method
4) Currently there is no way to undo the HTC method.
Probably not what you wanted to hear but that is my understanding as it is currently. That doesn't mean that a Dev won't figure out how to allow you to do those things in the next few days or weeks. You'll just have to keep checking.
Thank you, maybe ill just "lose" my phone and get it replaced
I would wait a week or so. Someone will probably figure it out.
Try this thread. Apparently this version of CWM recovery will work with the 1.50 hboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225812
I think if you search other threads you'll see that it only works if you have previously had s-off.
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Thank you, maybe ill just "lose" my phone and get it replaced
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Wow...fraud...people like you are why we pay so damn much for insurance/phones.
Looks like you can install recovery and Roms. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
housry23 said:
Looks like you can install recovery and Roms. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
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There you go! That didn't take long at all. Now you don't have to "lose" your phone.
thank you
I really appreciate the info... I'll check it out tonight and let you all know how it goes. This is my absolute favorite forum bar none. By the way, I was being facetious when I made the statement about "losing" my phone... laugh every once in a while! I did when I basically noobed my own phone.
Hello,
Last week there was an update for the phone which brought it to 2.3.4. Is it unlocked now? Do I still have to do the s-off thing to install new roms?
I'm new to the android mod stuff so don't worry about insulting my knowledge as I have much to learn about android. I've never performed a custom rom install on my android phones (only WM phones).
boe said:
Hello,
Last week there was an update for the phone which brought it to 2.3.4. Is it unlocked now? Do I still have to do the s-off thing to install new roms?
I'm new to the android mod stuff so don't worry about insulting my knowledge as I have much to learn about android. I've never performed a custom rom install on my android phones (only WM phones).
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No its not unlocked and it still has S-On. If you took the update your going to have to use the HTC method of getting S-Off. Unless there's another method that i haven't heard of. This was the first android phone I ever owned and ever rooted and i have to say if was pretty easy after hours of reading over and over the how to root guide . The hardest part of rooting was "finding" a working Parallel Desktop and working version of windows 7 for my brother's Mac from the Internet.
boe said:
Hello,
Last week there was an update for the phone which brought it to 2.3.4. Is it unlocked now? Do I still have to do the s-off thing to install new roms?
I'm new to the android mod stuff so don't worry about insulting my knowledge as I have much to learn about android. I've never performed a custom rom install on my android phones (only WM phones).
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Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
Thanks. I guess I don't understand the nature of android. What is s-off vs. unlocked?
r0cky0790 said:
Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
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Dont show him the htc unlock method wtf?!?! He can wait for revolutionary.
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knowledge561 Mr. Senior Member,
I just did the update as well, I’ve been wanting to root my 3vo for the longest time but have been waiting for the easiest method to do so. you recommend the revolutionary, correct?
Moy101 said:
knowledge561 Mr. Senior Member,
I just did the update as well, I’ve been wanting to root my 3vo for the longest time but have been waiting for the easiest method to do so. you recommend the revolutionary, correct?
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Just wait for revolutionary to be updated. Its recommended.
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Can someone spoon feed a newbie the difference between unlocked, s-off and revolutionary?
Thanks
boe said:
Can someone spoon feed a newbie the difference between unlocked, s-off and revolutionary?
Thanks
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Revolutionary is a tool that was developed by Alpharev and Unrevoked. It will set your phone to S-off (security off). With S-off, your phone is fully unlocked and you have full r/w access to all partitions (you can flash kernels, radios etc). HTC's unlock method does not give you S-off. It 'unlocks' the bootloader, while it remains S-on (security on). That is a half ass unlock. It will still allow you to flash a custom recovery, which you will then be able to use to flash roms. However, as I understand it, you can only write to the system partition. That means you can't flash radios, kernels, etc. You can only flash roms. Basically, HTC's unlock is not a full unlock, you are limited to what you can flash. Revolutionary will give you a full unlock with no restrictions, you can do whatever you want.
Revolutionary isn't updated to work with the latest OTA update yet (hboot 1.5), but it's being worked on. Those guys are really good, and I'd think that they will have their tool updated to work with the latest hboot at some point in the not so far future (speculation). As knowledge suggested, if I were you I would definitely wait for revolutionary to be updated, instead of going with HTC's half assed unlock method.
Thanks for the detailed reply. I have much to learn and appreciate the info! I'm not sure what I'll be looking for - about the only thing I know I want is tethering. If someone can make it less likely to drop calls that would be HUGE.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I could gather, from the Android forums besides researching here. Revolutionary is not doing an update for Hboot 1.50.... But also was said possibly figuring a way to downgrade the hboot. Either way I hope something is done, because I do not want to take HTC unlock method. I was unfortunate n already had the update when I purchased the phone. So Im gonna just sit here and wait..
"Originally Posted by wake69 For those of you who are rooted and or planning on rooting or planning on getting device and rooting, if you take the ota there is a great chancethatyour hboot version will neverbesupportedby revolutionary. As some have asked questions about weather or not they will support hboot version 1.5 the answer is no. Here is the transcript of my conversation with IEF who is a major part of their organization: in the revolutionary irc channel 30 secs ago
[09:21] <wake69> will there be an update for the evo 3d 1.5 cdma bootloader?
[09:21] <@IEF> no
[09:21] <@IEF> there won't
[09:21] <wake69> thank you
[09:22] <wake69> i dont need it just a question
[09:22] <@IEF> we might figure out a way to downgrade to 1.40 at some point, which we will release then, but don't count on it
so, if you want the ota, flash the rooted rom and firmwaredontunroot, if you want to root without the htc method dont take OTAs once you get hboot version 1.5 you are stuck with the HTC rooting method"
EVO3D
Thanks - so should I give up on waiting for Revolutionary?
http://pocketnow.com/android/more-unlocked-bootloaders-for-htc-sensation-smartphones
Is this new info or no?
beyond882001 said:
http://pocketnow.com/android/more-unlocked-bootloaders-for-htc-sensation-smartphones
Is this new info or no?
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NO, They just added support for more devices. A few days ago only EVO 3d & the EU Sensation were supported, but now there are a few more on that list.
I figured.....lol
Honestly, even after reading that. Im still going to hold out to see if an unofficial method comes out. I think its just to early in the game to just throw in the towel, and take HTC unlocking method.
Like knowledge651 recommended, just wait.. and hope for the best, anything is still possible..
I was just curious, if possibly someone else knew more information about the matter.
EVO3D
Could someone explain why the revolutionary method is better than the HTC method? I've never done any thing other than stock as this is my first android so I'd like to understand why some are waiting.
2 reasons, one revolution WORKS, period. Complete s-off and root. Htc...limited unlocking. Two, you need to register serial number with htc.
To all thinking about upgrading to the new ota
Don't take ota.......do not.
I know, i know...probably sick of these questions by now...
So i typically went the s-off un-official root methods with evo/3vo. Im thinking this time around i want to take a different approach as my needs have changed.
Im much more interested in keeping stock rom/kernel for the time being and being able to use root apps (like tether).
The grey area for me is exactly what does the HTC method of unlock allow me to do? I understand its not S-off.
Is it possible to root my phone and still take OTA's? (via HTC unlock or other methods)
Lastly what is the downside to HTC dev unlock? i understand it marks the phone in some way as unlocked and voids the warranty?
thanks
I know for a fact you could have root and not have to do the HTC unlock.
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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Unlocking will allow you to: replace recovery, which opens up to much more you can do.
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Eat it iPhone said:
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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Unlock allows you to flash custom roms, like the Viper Rom.
Direct form HTC's bootloader unlock FAQ guide
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
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So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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I'm surprised no one has answered your questions. If you're just rooted with a stock ROM you should still get ota's
shook187 said:
I'm surprised no one has answered your questions. If you're just rooted with a stock ROM you should still get ota's
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Thanks ! I'm totally new to the scene (smart phones in general, must less the root scene). While I'm fairly computer literate, I feel like a toddler going "Ooo what's this? " "Why?" "Why?" "what's that? "
Not trying to be a jerk, but any thread with a [Q] should go in Q&A.
I'm more shocked there isn't a s-off wip thread yet however many people haven't git their phone either..
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Not trying to be a jerk, but any thread with a [Q] should go in Q&A.
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That would eliminate 90 percent of the thread on here.
I agree, meant to put in q&a. If a mod could move it.
So what's s-off give me that HTC dev doesn't?
Can ne 1 confirm plain root and ota working?
Thanks all
Eat it iPhone said:
I agree, meant to put in q&a. If a mod could move it.
So what's s-off give me that HTC dev doesn't?
Can ne 1 confirm plain root and ota working?
Thanks all
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s-off allows you to flash radio's and kernels. Unlocking only allows you to flash Roms, and other things that don't effect the kernel or radio images.
IE, none of the aosp roms would be able to be flashed without s-off, because they use different kernels than the stock one.
Root works, and I have installed viperRom and it works well with a few mods that the stock rom doesnt have.
oh crap!! I didn't even think about not being able to flash AOSP without S-off. My only intention buying this phone was to be able to run AOSP ASAP.
But wait, are you sure about not flashing kernels? I thought people with the Evo 3d and S-on were able to flash kernels via flash_image GUI?
sent from my Evo LTE, usually.
So i rooted using the script...painless.
Just what i wanted, root but stock everything. Also picked up a app i saw in the apps section called voodoo something or other, that lets u temp unroot for updates/backup root. Sounds cool, hope it works. SU, wireless tether, and titanium all seem to work fine.
Maybe its just me, but i did notice the phone has some stutters now during startup and shortly after...prob just me
FattySparks said:
s-off allows you to flash radio's and kernels. Unlocking only allows you to flash Roms, and other things that don't effect the kernel or radio images.
IE, none of the aosp roms would be able to be flashed without s-off, because they use different kernels than the stock one.
Root works, and I have installed viperRom and it works well with a few mods that the stock rom doesnt have.
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Like your example of aosp not being able to be flashed with out S-OFF
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So Sprint just came out with an update. I rooted my phone but have not flashed any custom rom yet.
Can I run the update or do I need to wait to flash a rom with the update?
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you need to wait in case they patch the lazy panda exploit.
Once a dev has one that is prerooted they will post it up in the dev forum.
If you are using RootKeeper and have just root with stock ROM, can you apply the OTA update and then restore root with RootKeeper?
another noob question
I am getting confused on root vs. unlocked vs. s-off.
I used htc dev. to, I guess, unlock my phone (I thought this was rooting). I know I do NOT have s-off yet. I did read some post, a while ago, that talked unlocked and s-off (I think, I can't find that post anymore). I used the following to "Root" method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 . It looks like that only unlocks your phone.
I want to install twrp and can't figure out what method I am suppose to use to install it. Goo Manager vs. fastboot method? It says if you are unlocked AND rooted you can use Goo Manager. If you are only unlocked then fastboot.
Can someone please help me to understand?
Thanks.
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I will definitely contact you if I have any issues.
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GO HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123
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At this point, HTC dev unlock has all the same capabilities as s-off, so even if this ota blocks the lazy panda exploit, just go the HTC dev route.
{ParanoiA} said:
At this point, HTC dev unlock has all the same capabilities as s-off, so even if this ota blocks the lazy panda exploit, just go the HTC dev route.
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No it doesn't. You don't have full nand write, which means no custom radios and no custom bootloader (such as getting rid of red text)
Thank you everyone! I now have s-off, and have twrp installed. I am ready to have fun now!
Hey guys im looking to get help and a tutorial on how to root the 4g lte on 2.13? I've searched online but still haven't found an answer to my question. So if you are reading this let me know how to root it thanks.
Your only option is to use the htcdev.com method. You cannot get s-off though.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
metalfan78 said:
Your only option is to use the htcdev.com method. You cannot get s-off though.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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but what do i do exactly? sorry im a big noob when it comes to this phone
Go to htcdev.com and follow the instructions. It's really easy. And there are plenty of tutorials in the development section - stickies.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
HTC dev. It's fairly straightforward, then flash recovery and then rooted Rom . At least that's what I done
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rpk4712 said:
Hey guys im looking to get help and a tutorial on how to root the 4g lte on 2.13? I've searched online but still haven't found an answer to my question. So if you are reading this let me know how to root it thanks.
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I rooted with regaws awesome automatic rooter found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26955832
It worked flawlessly. Not sure if it still works after the update but it's definitely worth a shot.
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I don't think it's been updated to work yet.
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rpk4712 said:
Hey guys im looking to get help and a tutorial on how to root the 4g lte on 2.13? I've searched online but still haven't found an answer to my question. So if you are reading this let me know how to root it thanks.
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click on the link and fallow the instruction
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-4g-l...tc-evo-4g-lte-unlock-bootloadertwrp-recovery/
guys i still dont know what to do help?
You've already been given a couple links with step-by-step guides.
I suggest reading this guide first to help you understand the terminology better: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869377
Then if you have any specific questions please let us know. Saying simply that "you still don't know what to do" after being given a couple of direct links to guides will get you nowhere.
Step by step guide on how to root
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte...panda-s-htc-dev-ltevo-root-dummies-guide.html
Step by step guide to flashing kernels on the newest hboot
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-a.html
bilbo524 said:
You've already been given a couple links with step-by-step guides.
I suggest reading this guide first to help you understand the terminology better: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869377
Then if you have any specific questions please let us know. Saying simply that "you still don't know what to do" after being given a couple of direct links to guides will get you nowhere.
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oh so i can use any guide to root doesnt have to be one specifically for 2.13?
rpk4712 said:
oh so i can use any guide to root doesnt have to be one specifically for 2.13?
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Unlocking your bootloader using HTCDev Unlock will allow you to flash a custom recovery. With a custom recovery, obtaining root is easy (plenty of flashable ZIPs for this). This has nothing to do with your version of HBOOT (or firmware or OTA version).
Read the guide I linked to above and it will answer these questions...
Added relevant info pertaining to dev unlock!
metalfan78 said:
Your only option is to use the htcdev.com method. You cannot get s-off though.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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theres no way to get S off at all!?!?!?!?! this is slightly disappointing.
TW1L1GHT_K1N6 said:
theres no way to get S off at all!?!?!?!?! this is slightly disappointing.
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check the sticky i original android development
ok i was rooted s-off then i few months ago i ran a ruu back to stock.. but i still had s-off bootloader was relocked ect.. then i wanted to root it again.. so all i did was flash a custom recovery.. then flashed a rom.. so thats how i have superuser on my phone because every rom has it.. so is there any tool i can run that just roots my phone.. just give my superuser on my phones?? im rocking 2.13 s-off.. like zedomax tool thats just sends busybox and superuser to your phone.. thats what i want to do
evo401 said:
ok i was rooted s-off then i few months ago i ran a ruu back to stock.. but i still had s-off bootloader was relocked ect.. then i wanted to root it again.. so all i did was flash a custom recovery.. then flashed a rom.. so thats how i have superuser on my phone because every rom has it.. so is there any tool i can run that just roots my phone.. just give my superuser on my phones?? im rocking 2.13 s-off.. like zedomax tool thats just sends busybox and superuser to your phone.. thats what i want to do
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I would say find a stock rooted ROM. That stuff is usually installed.
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I would say find a stock rooted ROM. That stuff is usually installed.
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its installed on every rom.. so basiclly im only rooted because of the roms i run.. i quess im good..
I am also on the same page, i have S off, and it says tamepered on my bootloader screen, but I am not able to gain root access...all methods that I have used including Zedomax and Raw method dont seem to work... anyone? I have read through each link provided on here but the all say for software 1.22, and not 2.13... please help