Hello,
Last week there was an update for the phone which brought it to 2.3.4. Is it unlocked now? Do I still have to do the s-off thing to install new roms?
I'm new to the android mod stuff so don't worry about insulting my knowledge as I have much to learn about android. I've never performed a custom rom install on my android phones (only WM phones).
boe said:
Hello,
Last week there was an update for the phone which brought it to 2.3.4. Is it unlocked now? Do I still have to do the s-off thing to install new roms?
I'm new to the android mod stuff so don't worry about insulting my knowledge as I have much to learn about android. I've never performed a custom rom install on my android phones (only WM phones).
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No its not unlocked and it still has S-On. If you took the update your going to have to use the HTC method of getting S-Off. Unless there's another method that i haven't heard of. This was the first android phone I ever owned and ever rooted and i have to say if was pretty easy after hours of reading over and over the how to root guide . The hardest part of rooting was "finding" a working Parallel Desktop and working version of windows 7 for my brother's Mac from the Internet.
boe said:
Hello,
Last week there was an update for the phone which brought it to 2.3.4. Is it unlocked now? Do I still have to do the s-off thing to install new roms?
I'm new to the android mod stuff so don't worry about insulting my knowledge as I have much to learn about android. I've never performed a custom rom install on my android phones (only WM phones).
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Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
Thanks. I guess I don't understand the nature of android. What is s-off vs. unlocked?
r0cky0790 said:
Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
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Dont show him the htc unlock method wtf?!?! He can wait for revolutionary.
Free Dirk!!!
knowledge561 Mr. Senior Member,
I just did the update as well, I’ve been wanting to root my 3vo for the longest time but have been waiting for the easiest method to do so. you recommend the revolutionary, correct?
Moy101 said:
knowledge561 Mr. Senior Member,
I just did the update as well, I’ve been wanting to root my 3vo for the longest time but have been waiting for the easiest method to do so. you recommend the revolutionary, correct?
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Just wait for revolutionary to be updated. Its recommended.
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Can someone spoon feed a newbie the difference between unlocked, s-off and revolutionary?
Thanks
boe said:
Can someone spoon feed a newbie the difference between unlocked, s-off and revolutionary?
Thanks
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Revolutionary is a tool that was developed by Alpharev and Unrevoked. It will set your phone to S-off (security off). With S-off, your phone is fully unlocked and you have full r/w access to all partitions (you can flash kernels, radios etc). HTC's unlock method does not give you S-off. It 'unlocks' the bootloader, while it remains S-on (security on). That is a half ass unlock. It will still allow you to flash a custom recovery, which you will then be able to use to flash roms. However, as I understand it, you can only write to the system partition. That means you can't flash radios, kernels, etc. You can only flash roms. Basically, HTC's unlock is not a full unlock, you are limited to what you can flash. Revolutionary will give you a full unlock with no restrictions, you can do whatever you want.
Revolutionary isn't updated to work with the latest OTA update yet (hboot 1.5), but it's being worked on. Those guys are really good, and I'd think that they will have their tool updated to work with the latest hboot at some point in the not so far future (speculation). As knowledge suggested, if I were you I would definitely wait for revolutionary to be updated, instead of going with HTC's half assed unlock method.
Thanks for the detailed reply. I have much to learn and appreciate the info! I'm not sure what I'll be looking for - about the only thing I know I want is tethering. If someone can make it less likely to drop calls that would be HUGE.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I could gather, from the Android forums besides researching here. Revolutionary is not doing an update for Hboot 1.50.... But also was said possibly figuring a way to downgrade the hboot. Either way I hope something is done, because I do not want to take HTC unlock method. I was unfortunate n already had the update when I purchased the phone. So Im gonna just sit here and wait..
"Originally Posted by wake69 For those of you who are rooted and or planning on rooting or planning on getting device and rooting, if you take the ota there is a great chancethatyour hboot version will neverbesupportedby revolutionary. As some have asked questions about weather or not they will support hboot version 1.5 the answer is no. Here is the transcript of my conversation with IEF who is a major part of their organization: in the revolutionary irc channel 30 secs ago
[09:21] <wake69> will there be an update for the evo 3d 1.5 cdma bootloader?
[09:21] <@IEF> no
[09:21] <@IEF> there won't
[09:21] <wake69> thank you
[09:22] <wake69> i dont need it just a question
[09:22] <@IEF> we might figure out a way to downgrade to 1.40 at some point, which we will release then, but don't count on it
so, if you want the ota, flash the rooted rom and firmwaredontunroot, if you want to root without the htc method dont take OTAs once you get hboot version 1.5 you are stuck with the HTC rooting method"
EVO3D
Thanks - so should I give up on waiting for Revolutionary?
http://pocketnow.com/android/more-unlocked-bootloaders-for-htc-sensation-smartphones
Is this new info or no?
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http://pocketnow.com/android/more-unlocked-bootloaders-for-htc-sensation-smartphones
Is this new info or no?
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NO, They just added support for more devices. A few days ago only EVO 3d & the EU Sensation were supported, but now there are a few more on that list.
I figured.....lol
Honestly, even after reading that. Im still going to hold out to see if an unofficial method comes out. I think its just to early in the game to just throw in the towel, and take HTC unlocking method.
Like knowledge651 recommended, just wait.. and hope for the best, anything is still possible..
I was just curious, if possibly someone else knew more information about the matter.
EVO3D
Could someone explain why the revolutionary method is better than the HTC method? I've never done any thing other than stock as this is my first android so I'd like to understand why some are waiting.
2 reasons, one revolution WORKS, period. Complete s-off and root. Htc...limited unlocking. Two, you need to register serial number with htc.
To all thinking about upgrading to the new ota
Don't take ota.......do not.
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without having s-off?
i really just want the perm root until they can get all the kinks of of these early ROMs
No.
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ah ok
because right now they making stock custom roms
and..... that just seems silly?
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No.
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Root is available. Head to the development section to learn how to root and flash a recovery.
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you don't need to flash any of the ROMs if you dont like them. I would root in case HTC/sprint sends a forced update. Might as well right?
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Ok sounds Good to me... Thanx!
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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Permanent root means S-off and a few other things. People are talking about HTC when they speak of unlocking bootloaders. If you root your phone through AlphaREV, your phone will be permanently rooted.
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vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Thanks!
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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This^, my answer was half-arsed lol.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Awesome, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know. So now I can go ahead and root my phone and wait for the next badass ROM (hopefully CM!) for this phone!
How do I achieve s-off? Can I revese HTC unlock method? Is there a thread or answer available? I'm not a complete noob at rooting but got excited and didn't read thoroughly before committing to the HTC process. Started sifting through threads and haven't discovered an answer yet... Please help
I've been trying to sift through them as well just out of curiosity. Here is what I have gleaned from all of the threads on this subject:
1) Unless you previously had s-off through revolutionary, the HTC method will not give you or currently allow you to get s-off
2) Although the HTC method does unlock the boot loader, other things are still locked preventing you from flashing a custom recovery.
3) Currently there is no way to root or get super user access once you've applied the HTC method
4) Currently there is no way to undo the HTC method.
Probably not what you wanted to hear but that is my understanding as it is currently. That doesn't mean that a Dev won't figure out how to allow you to do those things in the next few days or weeks. You'll just have to keep checking.
Thank you, maybe ill just "lose" my phone and get it replaced
I would wait a week or so. Someone will probably figure it out.
Try this thread. Apparently this version of CWM recovery will work with the 1.50 hboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225812
I think if you search other threads you'll see that it only works if you have previously had s-off.
evoLMaverick said:
Thank you, maybe ill just "lose" my phone and get it replaced
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Wow...fraud...people like you are why we pay so damn much for insurance/phones.
Looks like you can install recovery and Roms. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
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Looks like you can install recovery and Roms. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
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There you go! That didn't take long at all. Now you don't have to "lose" your phone.
thank you
I really appreciate the info... I'll check it out tonight and let you all know how it goes. This is my absolute favorite forum bar none. By the way, I was being facetious when I made the statement about "losing" my phone... laugh every once in a while! I did when I basically noobed my own phone.
For those who are helpers with only the Sprint or GSM 3D, please ignore this post.
I repeat, this is about the Virgin Mobile Evo V 4G, if you know nothing about it, please don't try to help, you'll waste both of our time.
So let me begin, I'm going to root my Evo V 4G. But I've noticed quite a lot of things that tell you to do things with that tell you to downgrade the S-Off. Wonderful. But to downgrade, they say you should be unrooted, and locked.
So I have a couple of questions. First off, "What is S-Off and HBoot and all that."
Second, is there a point to downgrading the HBoot (because I believe it is a higher version on the V 4G).
And third, should I root it first, or do the HBoot downgrade, or both?
(And yes I understand I'm a noob, but coming from the Motorola Triumph, all you had to do was use Terminal Emulator to root, and then get a custom recovery and you were good.)
Please explain, from one dev to a noob. Thank you very much.
First off I'm no developer, but I've dealt enough w/ HTC phones to know most of what you ask. I could be mistaken a bit but from my understanding here is what you are asking about:
S-Off/S-On is basically a setting that tells the bootloader (HBOOT) if it should verify the stuff it is flashing has been signed by HTC.
HBOOT is the bootloader for HTC phones, it is responsible for booting the ROM or Recovery, it's also used for fastboot commands.
Downgrading your HBOOT may be necessary in order to get true S-OFF
an example would be the Evo 3D HBOOT 1.4 can be S-OFF'd with revolutionary (maintaining your warranty and giving true S-OFF), but 1.5 needs the HTC Dev Unlock method which doesn't give true S-OFF but allows flashing of some unsigned content. In this instance it's better to downgrade your HBOOT and get a real S-OFF.
As for which to do first, if S-OFF can be gotten on your current HBOOT version, I dont see a need to downgrade it at all. If you HAVE TO downgrade I'd do that first, get S-OFF then flash a recovery and rom that has root access already.
Anyone who reads this and sees a mistake, please correct it
For those who are helpers with only the Sprint or GSM 3D, please ignore this post.
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probably shouldn't be in the Evo 3D forums then eh?
probably shouldn't be in the Evo 3D forums then eh?
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Ahhh, whoops. I suppose so.
And you're sure it's perfectly fine with the Virgin Mobile 3D, not just the Sprint one?
Wait a sec, are you saying there's an Evo V 4G forum too?
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Jeez I feel like an idiot for posting, because I've been reading threads and such for well over an hour but we've always been told there are no dumb questions right?
Ok, so I rooted my original EVO with Unrevoked years ago and have been happily flashing ROM's, radio's and the like ever since.
Now I've got a new EVO 4G LTE and I'm thinking I can come home today, root/s-off and be on my merry way flashing SuperJelly. Apparently, it's not quite so straight forward?
I've read the sticky thread how to root, etc but I have HBOOT 2.09 so it looks like LazyPanda and the like are not options to get s-off. There's even a thread on how there's no exploit for HBOOT 2.09 yet.
There's still much confusion in my brain about where to go next...
Unlock bootloader with HTCDev?
Then flash TWRP?
Feeling very NOOBish, but better to ask than to brick.
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Jeez I feel like an idiot for posting, because I've been reading threads and such for well over an hour but we've always been told there are no dumb questions right?
Ok, so I rooted my original EVO with Unrevoked years ago and have been happily flashing ROM's, radio's and the like ever since.
Now I've got a new EVO 4G LTE and I'm thinking I can come home today, root/s-off and be on my merry way flashing SuperJelly. Apparently, it's not quite so straight forward?
I've read the sticky thread how to root, etc but I have HBOOT 2.09 so it looks like LazyPanda and the like are not options to get s-off. There's even a thread on how there's no exploit for HBOOT 2.09 yet.
There's still much confusion in my brain about where to go next...
Unlock bootloader with HTCDev?
Then flash TWRP?
Feeling very NOOBish, but better to ask than to brick.
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You know what to do. Now you just have to do it.
This is a very "Yoda" moment happening here... Thanks Capt.
Hm. I remember seeing this today, but I went back an re-read the article. It might be worth waiting for an HBOOT 2.09 exploit.
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/12/...es-for-rooted-s-on-htc-evo-4g-lte-owners.html
Unlocking your bootloader now is not gonna hinder you using any exploit found for hboot 2.09 almost certainly.
Basically I would advice not waiting for an exploit if you wanna flash a few roms
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I'm gonna need to do more research on this because I'm not understanding why s-off is such a big deal on this device if I want to flash SuperJelly or MeanBean (which has s-on instructions) if all I have to do is root.
Frankly, I want SuperJelly for the GPS and camera improvements.
I gotta get this straight in my head so I don't end up posting a "help, I just screwed up my device" post.
jlampitt said:
I'm gonna need to do more research on this because I'm not understanding why s-off is such a big deal on this device if I want to flash SuperJelly or MeanBean (which has s-on instructions) if all I have to do is root.
Frankly, I want SuperJelly for the GPS and camera improvements.
I gotta get this straight in my head so I don't end up posting a "help, I just screwed up my device" post.
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Soff is necessary for the firmware upgrades (you are on the latest so as of now no big deal) it also make flashing a custom kernel a lot easier with no extra steps(source has not been release hence there is no jb custom kernels so no worries there at the moment) if all you want to do is flash a rom for now just htc dev unlock flash a custom recovery and you'll be good to go until an exploit is found
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Success!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36014051#post36014051
Thanks everyone for your words of encouragement and info.
I just got my new Virgin Mobile HTC Evo V today. My previous device was a Samsung Galaxy-class phone (Infuse 4G), so I'm a bit lost with all of the HTC-specific terminology and procedures. All I've read seems to be written by and for people who already have some idea of what's going on. Sadly, I don't.
All I know is that my Evo V is on Hboot version 1.57. I basically want to put it in a state where I can flash ANYTHING I want, which I assume means that I'll need to be S-off with a custom recovery. Do I absolutely need to dowgrade Hboot? Must I be S-off? I just need an initial push in the right direction. If someone could give a brief synopsis of exactly where I need to start, along with some links to the corresponding tools, that would be very much appreciated. I hate feeling like a newb all over again, but hacking HTC doesn't seem to be nearly as simple or intuitive as it was with Samsung. I'm fairly adept at following directions, I just don't want to follow the wrong ones and do something stupid.
ApexPredatorBoids said:
I just got my new Virgin Mobile HTC Evo V today. My previous device was a Samsung Galaxy-class phone (Infuse 4G), so I'm a bit lost with all of the HTC-specific terminology and procedures. All I've read seems to be written by and for people who already have some idea of what's going on. Sadly, I don't.
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Since you have an Evo V you might want to start here. There are no forums that are specific to the Evo V on XDA.
I do have a guide here in the general forum that works for getting root and S-OFF on the Evo V.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Since you have an Evo V you might want to start here. There are no forums that are specific to the Evo V on XDA.
I do have a guide here in the general forum that works for getting root and S-OFF on the Evo V.
ramjet73
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Isn't this 3D the EVO V? Thought they were the same D:
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'Blu said:
Isn't this 3D the EVO V? Thought they were the same D:
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Same hardware but not the same firmware and network configuration as was confirmed by Sprint users who flashed the "leaked" VM firmware last May. The custom ROM's can be configured for either carrier but not the firmware and the serial numbers (ESN's) are hard wired to a specific service provider.
Also, Virgin Mobile users also don't have the roaming options that Sprint offers.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Same hardware but not the same firmware and network configuration as was confirmed by Sprint users who flashed the "leaked" VM firmware last May. The custom ROM's can be configured for either carrier but not the firmware and the serial numbers (ESN's) are hard wired to a specific service provider.
Also, Virgin Mobile users also don't have the roaming options that Sprint offers.
ramjet73
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Well that sucks a tad bit. I forgot that the phones had very different network make up.
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Gotta love a long and convoluted process that involves a lot of downloading. At the moment, I'm visiting a relative who doesn't have internet, so my only web access is to tether to my now-throttled data connection. Got about 6 more hours to go before the QADERSO download finishes. Thanks for the help so far. I took a quick peek at the htcdev site and unlocking procedure. I noticed that they don't have one that's VM specific. Should I just use the Sprint one when I get to that point?
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Gotta love a long and convoluted process that involves a lot of downloading. At the moment, I'm visiting a relative who doesn't have internet, so my only web access is to tether to my now-throttled data connection. Got about 6 more hours to go before the QADERSO download finishes. Thanks for the help so far. I took a quick peek at the htcdev site and unlocking procedure. I noticed that they don't have one that's VM specific. Should I just use the Sprint one when I get to that point?
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Yes, you can unlock the Evo V 4G by selecting the Evo 3D on the htcdev website.
I don't consider downloading an all-in-one file "a lot of downloading" and if you think my guide is "convoluted" you're welcome to use the collection of guides that preceded it, including several on the other site that I linked above.
I've unlocked Samsung and other phones before and I know about the "one click" root utilities, but that's not the way HTC does things so we need to deal with it or stay stock.
ramjet73
ApexPredatorBoids said:
Gotta love a long and convoluted process that involves a lot of downloading. At the moment, I'm visiting a relative who doesn't have internet, so my only web access is to tether to my now-throttled data connection. Got about 6 more hours to go before the QADERSO download finishes. Thanks for the help so far. I took a quick peek at the htcdev site and unlocking procedure. I noticed that they don't have one that's VM specific. Should I just use the Sprint one when I get to that point?
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It's quite a simple process, but it is a fairly long process. Takes about 30 minutes total to get unlocked, rooted, and running all good. Add that to getting ROMs and stuff. That totaled up to 3 days for me because I just could not find the best one, and I've found that Viper3D is great . Getting a 8000-9500 benchmark.
Success
Well, I didn't manage to bust it out in 30 minutes, but I got it done. Probably wouldn't have taken quite so long if I were less inept with command prompts. The "wire trick" was simultaneously simple and a huge pain in the ass. I spent probably 15 minutes doing it over and over and over. But all's well that ends well. I'm now HTCdev unlocked with S-off, and I'm running NegaLite BluROM. So, thanks, ramjet73, for the advice and putting your time into writing the guide.
I do have a few general questions still:
-what will absolutely need to be flashed with fastboot; kernels, radios, alternate Hboot versions?
-as far as having some semblance of universal compatibility, should I be fairly safe sticking with Jbear's Hboot version 1.57.5757?
-is there another Hboot version I could flash that would be more likely to be compatible with the vast majority of available ROMs?
ApexPredatorBoids said:
Well, I didn't manage to bust it out in 30 minutes, but I got it done. Probably wouldn't have taken quite so long if I were less inept with command prompts. The "wire trick" was simultaneously simple and a huge pain in the ass. I spent probably 15 minutes doing it over and over and over. But all's well that ends well. I'm now HTCdev unlocked with S-off, and I'm running NegaLite BluROM. So, thanks, ramjet73, for the advice and putting your time into writing the guide.
I do have a few general questions still:
-what will absolutely need to be flashed with fastboot; kernels, radios, alternate Hboot versions?
-as far as having some semblance of universal compatibility, should I be fairly safe sticking with Jbear's Hboot version 1.57.5757?
-is there another Hboot version I could flash that would be more likely to be compatible with the vast majority of available ROMs?
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I myself have kept with the Jbear hboot and have been able to run the ROMs I wanted fine (that being MeanROM-ICS, Viper3D, and Harmonia) and it was all good. I have no clue about your other questions, sorry :[. I'm quite new to the Evo 3D and it doesn't seem as simple as my old One V.
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I do have a few general questions still:
-what will absolutely need to be flashed with fastboot; kernels, radios, alternate Hboot versions?
-as far as having some semblance of universal compatibility, should I be fairly safe sticking with Jbear's Hboot version 1.57.5757?
-is there another Hboot version I could flash that would be more likely to be compatible with the vast majority of available ROMs?
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I usually recommend the JBear GB 1.50.5050 hboot. It will flash and boot all ROM's except the stock ICS ROM and one or two based on that version, as opposed to the 1.57.5757 version that won't boot any GB or AOSP based ROM's.
ramjet73
I've never been much of a fan of Android version 4.x. I just stumbled on what appears to be a very promising Gingerbread ROM, so it looks like I'm going to have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. I'd assumed that since the phone came with ICS, I'd be stuck with 4.x. Apparently, that's not the case. I love me some GB.
ramjet73 said:
I usually recommend the JBear GB 1.50.5050 hboot. It will flash and boot all ROM's except the stock ICS ROM and one or two based on that version, as opposed to the 1.57.5757 version that won't boot any GB or AOSP based ROM's.
ramjet73
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Will Jbear 1.50.5050 flash This ROM? I'm thinking someone posted in that thread that you had to be below Hboot 1.50 to flash it. If it will work with that ROM, could you supply a D/L or thread link?
ApexPredatorBoids said:
I've never been much of a fan of Android version 4.x. I just stumbled on what appears to be a very promising Gingerbread ROM, so it looks like I'm going to have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. I'd assumed that since the phone came with ICS, I'd be stuck with 4.x. Apparently, that's not the case. I love me some GB.
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Just be aware that all the GB ROM's are based on Sprint builds and as a VM user you will need to figure out what needs to be changed to get things like MMS working properly on the VM network.
I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, just be aware that it will take more than just flashing the ROM and you can get more help with the Evo V on the androidforums.com website in the forums for that version of the device.
ApexPredatorBoids said:
Will Jbear 1.50.5050 flash This ROM? I'm thinking someone posted in that thread that you had to be below Hboot 1.50 to flash it. If it will work with that ROM, could you supply a D/L or thread link?
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Yes. The JBear 1.50.5050 hboot will flash and boot anything that the 1.4 or ENG 1.04 hboots handle and is based on a more current version of the Evo 3D bootloader. It also allows you to run more fastboot commands than a stock hboot like 1.4.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
as a VM user you will need to figure out what needs to be changed to get things like MMS working properly on the VM network.
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Is it as simple as finding and using the proper APN settings, or is there more to it than that?
ApexPredatorBoids said:
Is it as simple as finding and using the proper APN settings, or is there more to it than that?
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At least that, and maybe some changes to the build.prop file. I'm a Sprint user so I've never had to do it, but there are VM users here and on androidforums.com that can probably help answer that.
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