I know, i know...probably sick of these questions by now...
So i typically went the s-off un-official root methods with evo/3vo. Im thinking this time around i want to take a different approach as my needs have changed.
Im much more interested in keeping stock rom/kernel for the time being and being able to use root apps (like tether).
The grey area for me is exactly what does the HTC method of unlock allow me to do? I understand its not S-off.
Is it possible to root my phone and still take OTA's? (via HTC unlock or other methods)
Lastly what is the downside to HTC dev unlock? i understand it marks the phone in some way as unlocked and voids the warranty?
thanks
I know for a fact you could have root and not have to do the HTC unlock.
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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Unlocking will allow you to: replace recovery, which opens up to much more you can do.
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Eat it iPhone said:
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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Unlock allows you to flash custom roms, like the Viper Rom.
Direct form HTC's bootloader unlock FAQ guide
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
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So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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I'm surprised no one has answered your questions. If you're just rooted with a stock ROM you should still get ota's
shook187 said:
I'm surprised no one has answered your questions. If you're just rooted with a stock ROM you should still get ota's
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Thanks ! I'm totally new to the scene (smart phones in general, must less the root scene). While I'm fairly computer literate, I feel like a toddler going "Ooo what's this? " "Why?" "Why?" "what's that? "
Not trying to be a jerk, but any thread with a [Q] should go in Q&A.
I'm more shocked there isn't a s-off wip thread yet however many people haven't git their phone either..
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Not trying to be a jerk, but any thread with a [Q] should go in Q&A.
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That would eliminate 90 percent of the thread on here.
I agree, meant to put in q&a. If a mod could move it.
So what's s-off give me that HTC dev doesn't?
Can ne 1 confirm plain root and ota working?
Thanks all
Eat it iPhone said:
I agree, meant to put in q&a. If a mod could move it.
So what's s-off give me that HTC dev doesn't?
Can ne 1 confirm plain root and ota working?
Thanks all
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s-off allows you to flash radio's and kernels. Unlocking only allows you to flash Roms, and other things that don't effect the kernel or radio images.
IE, none of the aosp roms would be able to be flashed without s-off, because they use different kernels than the stock one.
Root works, and I have installed viperRom and it works well with a few mods that the stock rom doesnt have.
oh crap!! I didn't even think about not being able to flash AOSP without S-off. My only intention buying this phone was to be able to run AOSP ASAP.
But wait, are you sure about not flashing kernels? I thought people with the Evo 3d and S-on were able to flash kernels via flash_image GUI?
sent from my Evo LTE, usually.
So i rooted using the script...painless.
Just what i wanted, root but stock everything. Also picked up a app i saw in the apps section called voodoo something or other, that lets u temp unroot for updates/backup root. Sounds cool, hope it works. SU, wireless tether, and titanium all seem to work fine.
Maybe its just me, but i did notice the phone has some stutters now during startup and shortly after...prob just me
FattySparks said:
s-off allows you to flash radio's and kernels. Unlocking only allows you to flash Roms, and other things that don't effect the kernel or radio images.
IE, none of the aosp roms would be able to be flashed without s-off, because they use different kernels than the stock one.
Root works, and I have installed viperRom and it works well with a few mods that the stock rom doesnt have.
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Like your example of aosp not being able to be flashed with out S-OFF
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without having s-off?
i really just want the perm root until they can get all the kinks of of these early ROMs
No.
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ah ok
because right now they making stock custom roms
and..... that just seems silly?
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Root is available. Head to the development section to learn how to root and flash a recovery.
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you don't need to flash any of the ROMs if you dont like them. I would root in case HTC/sprint sends a forced update. Might as well right?
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Ok sounds Good to me... Thanx!
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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Permanent root means S-off and a few other things. People are talking about HTC when they speak of unlocking bootloaders. If you root your phone through AlphaREV, your phone will be permanently rooted.
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vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Thanks!
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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This^, my answer was half-arsed lol.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Awesome, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know. So now I can go ahead and root my phone and wait for the next badass ROM (hopefully CM!) for this phone!
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detroit2hi said:
Hello, would one of the amazing Devs and experts help me out with a rooting issue im having for my evo 3D
I am in Japan and have just bought the Japanese evo 3D
Im kinda worried about rooting because im not sure if it will screw up the software inside my Japanese evo 3D
I rooted my og evo and my sensation 4g before and loooove rooted phones but i was in America with american phones
Can anyone tell me if rooting will screw up my phone so it might not work over here anymore like connecting to towers or not able to send messages
They are kinda serious about rooting and unlocking stuff over here
maybe it wont effect anything at all and my phone will work fine, im just clueless right now
The newest update out here is
android 2.3.4
sense 3.0
software 1.09.970.5 and that just came out not to long ago
baseband 1.02.00.0906
build 1.09.970.5 CL221596 release-keys
If anyone can help me out i would be forever grateful
Thank you
Bryan
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Simple answer: Probably not but depends
Longer answer: The main factor I forsee is how to gain root access. Given the locked bootloader on this device, the process has been much more complex. Which version of he bootloader do you have? Does revolutionary work or is the only option HTC's unlock method?
The answer to these two questions will probably determine your fake. Either way, for the most part, having gained root access on the device and still running a stock ROM, will more than likely guarantee there are no tower/carrier issues.
Generally, with most custom ROMs, there should also be no carrier/tower issues but unless the ROM has been tested to work in Japan on those networks, there is no guarantee.
The only big conflict I would imagine would be taking a rooted device into the carrier for service. Probably best at this point to reload stock software and remove root access in order to ensure the device the hardware is using completely stock software and thus eliminate any odd issues from custom "unofficial" software.
As a side note, if you're read this far through my message, if the htc unlock process is the only option, my app, Flash Image GUI, works very well in helping flash kernels due to the HTC unlock limitation of not allowing kernel write access while in standard recovery mode. Have a few guides in the OP to my Flash Image GUI thread.
Hope that helps! Good luck!
I have the 1.5 bootloader and I just read all about the difficulties with it.
Thanks so much for the reply by the way
So your saying to do the HTC dev method to unlock to flash roms and then use your program to flash different kernel's?
I do for now want and kinda need the Japanese rom
So ill keep this rom if I use the HTC way?
detroit2hi said:
I have the 1.5 bootloader and I just read all about the difficulties with it.
Thanks so much for the reply by the way
So your saying to do the HTC dev method to unlock to flash roms and then use your program to flash different kernel's?
I do for now want and kinda need the Japanese rom
So ill keep this rom if I use the HTC way?
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Yes he is. You can change the ROM even if you use the HTC unlock method. Some things may not work properly if you flash the ROMs on here because of conflicting files. I learned that when I ported the Japanese Evo 3D ROM to the Sprint version of the 3D. You will have to flash custom ROMs based off the Japanese HTC stock ROM
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Yes he is. You can change the ROM even if you use the HTC unlock method. Some things may not work properly if you flash the ROMs on here because of conflicting files. I learned that when I ported the Japanese Evo 3D ROM to the Sprint version of the 3D. You will have to flash custom ROMs based off the Japanese HTC stock ROM
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Yes yes yes. I think this is what I'm talking about.
Where you living?? In Japan ?
We need a Japan section in xda !"
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Honestly of course I want to change my rom but I really don't care about it
I hontoni want super user and to keep this rom because its sooo Japanese I wont be able to message people here in Japan unless I keep this. For now.
I want to use my superuse apps and what not.
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Well I just went to HTCdev.com and there's no option for my Japanese evo3d
I see a few different evo 3d's but not KDDI au one.
Guess I'm **** out of luck
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halo,
I'm new. I have the same problem.
Japanese Evo3d with H-boot 1.50.00000
somebody knows how to root this phone?
Hello,
I installed the ICS OTA on my EVO 3D, i then went to htcdev and unlocked my phone. How do i gain root access from here? All this googling is giving me a headache lol. I keep finding so many different ways but it all seems a little confusing. Am i able to install a custom recovery then flash SU without flashing another rom? if so how? or do i have to lose everything and start over again? I miss good ol' unrevoked lol.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
This is the reason there are stickies at the top of every forum.
i then went to htcdev and unlocked my phone. How do i gain root access from here?
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Flash recovery, flash superuser or supersu.
Am i able to install a custom recovery then flash SU without flashing another rom?
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You can't flash a rom until you have a recovery.
if so how?
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Decide which recovery you want, and flash it through bootloader.
I understand that, thank you. And im not trying to be lazy, ive gone through 10 different pages of posts so far and just about everyone of them references not flashing ICS rom. So i just wanted to make sure i wasn't ahead of myself for already having the official ICS. But i also don't want to flash any roms if i don't have to. I just want to gain root access. So thank you for the tip. I will start looking for recoveries.
hey don't feel bad, i had 1.4 s-off and went to stock so to get the bug free official ics and am extremely let down - to put it mildly.
i too am nervous over bricking all over again and i wonder if better options are out since may.
i also feel the forum is more fragmented and evo3d specific deving seems to have slowed.
i sure would welcome a clear path to best root from here and best bug free ics jb sensev4 rom
or am i dreaming
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Hey man, I figured it out!
after taking the ota from sprint, I went and unlocked my phone with htcdev, then flashed twrp recovery from the official site for the recovery, the only method that worked for me was using the adb method, after that I flashed su, the newest su kept failing so I flashed the 2.3.something version then I was able to flash the new 3.x su. All is well and I know have a stock rooted Ics.
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I thought I read we can still root this software update
But have to use HTC dev plus a script
Anyone confirm this and have a link to what I need to root the update
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Yeah but it uses the HTC unlock, so...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Root will always be available.
HTC gave us a root method
But the annoying thing is that HTC gave us a root method that wipes your phone first.
I'm still waiting for a new temp root exploit so that I can run Titanium Backup first before I do the dev unlock.
I wonder if anybody is actually working on one, or if everybody just takes it on faith that *somebody* must be.
I bet if the HTC method wasn't there, people would be trying harder to find one.
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This tool works like a charm, and HTC has no idea you are rooted. I used it last night - took about 10 min. You pretty much download drivers and this app, and run the app. Very easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
What's wrong with HTC Unlock?
I used HTC Unlock and it was a breeze. Given being a noob since this is my first HTC device i've tinkered with, it was quite painless
The only things wrong with it are that:
1. It wipes all your customizations so you have to start over from scratch, or from what some non-root backup app can restore which isn't much.
2. It doesn't give you S-Off, so you can't flash radio updates, but to me that's no big deal.
The biggest issue with HTC dev on the newest H-boot is that you cannot flash kernels normally through recovery
Never accept an OTA. S-Off is soooooo convenient
ronnienyc said:
This tool works like a charm, and HTC has no idea you are rooted. I used it last night - took about 10 min. You pretty much download drivers and this app, and run the app. Very easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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Pretty sure they still know. It still has to extreact info from the phone to get token to unlock phone. You just don't see it happening but the program is contacting HTC to unlock the phone.
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Pretty sure they still know. It still has to extreact info from the phone to get token to.
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It is incognito.
I thought TWRP / HTC Dumlock could now flash kernels with S-OFF:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/team-win-recovery-project-2-2-1-adds-dumlock-for-boot-flashing-on-latest-evo-4g-lte-firmware.html
Regaw uses minimal user information in the unlocking process.
With that said, you can never be sure HTC doesn't know you unlocked it. Frankly, Its not going to matter if they know or know when your boot loader says relocked.
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Rxpert said:
The biggest issue with HTC dev on the newest H-boot is that you cannot flash kernels normally through recovery
Never accept an OTA. S-Off is soooooo convenient
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You can flash kernels with HTC dev unlock.
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I'm s off and I wanna get the new update complete with root and keep my s off can u guide me what to do and I don't have recovery yet I just rooted and then apply s off and that's all
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tech7 said:
I'm s off and I wanna get the new update complete with root and keep my s off can u guide me what to do and I don't have recovery yet I just rooted and then apply s off and that's all
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This thread has information about flashing a custom recovery in the OP and also links to the stock rooted roms that you can flash in recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830098
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pbarrett said:
I thought TWRP / HTC Dumlock could now flash kernels with S-OFF:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/team-win-recovery-project-2-2-1-adds-dumlock-for-boot-flashing-on-latest-evo-4g-lte-firmware.html
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With S-OFF you can flash anything you want. You dont need dumlock
Rydah805 said:
You can flash kernels with HTC dev unlock.
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Not through the normal channels with the new H-boot
Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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I would like to know this also
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pbarrett said:
Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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The kernel in the ROM doesnt get flashed. When going from sense to sense it isnt an issue because its still the stock HTC kernel
If you try flashing cm10 without pushing the boot.img the phone wont boot because it has an AOSP ROM and sense kernel
Abnormal channels would be your fastboot flash, htc dumlock, or flashgui
What's the problem.with not being able to flash the kernal thur recovery? You can still push it via fastboot. It not so much of an inconvenience that you would want to not have root and do tons of cool **** to your phone. Who cares if HTC knows you are unlocked? BFD!
Unlock your phone and enjoy it the way it was meant to be enjoyed except flashing radios and kernal via recovery.
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Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
Why did HTC update hboot 1.15? Because they discovered an exploit flaw that we could gain S-OFF with, which is FAR better than being on HTC Dumlock. If you are not concerned with obtaining S-OFF via LazyPanda and the like, this should not be a concern.
Also, being on the new hboot means that backwards compatibility to ROMs that are not based on the new OTA could become an issue.
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New h boot for you only means that you won't be able to get s-off for a very long time probably since nobody has figured out how to even s-off h boot 1.15 yet. You shouldn't have an issue flashing any rom from my understanding as long as it's through recovery.
Edit : I would listen to Michael on this one regarding ROMs sounds like he knows more lol.
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natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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Yes, you will be stuck flashing 2.13 roms with the 2.13 kernel. However, you can use one of the workaround methods (fastboot, flash image gui, twrp dumlock) to flashing an older kernel, and then flash roms based on a previous OTA base.
A ROM doesn't include an HBoot though, so there shouldn't be ROM/HBoot compatibility issues, right?
No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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I don't think that's quite right (I could be wrong though).
If he wants to flash a JB-based ROM, he will definitely have to flash the boot.img separately via one of the workarounds mentioned.
If he wants to move between Sense-based ROMs, he *might* be OK. But he will not get any tweaks the dev may have made to the kernel included with his respective ROM.
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Got it. I thought you were replying in general.
natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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I'd like to re-root after taking the OTA and I've searched all over for the instructions on how to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot, but can't find it. Can you assist?
Thanks
Rxpert said:
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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That's true for 1.12, since it allows you to flash kernels through recovery. The newer versions don't. That's the reason for using the fastboot or dumlock workarounds. That being said, I haven't heard anyone confirm yet that these methods still work on 1.19...I'm interested to know.
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
om4 said:
I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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From what I can tell... No. You have to run HTC Dev first in order to get to where you can load a recovery program at which point you will have already had to wipe your phone to factory defaults.
It's unfortunate and the main reason I waited so long to unlock this way but as previously stated, Sense 4.1 was too hard to pass on
om4 said:
I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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no, I let her take my phone for the weekend. she went camping with her her family and I dont feel comfortable knowing shes out in the middle of no where without a phone. her phone was disconnected because she lost her job 2 months ago and Im not about to pay $135 on top of my own bill
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Mine doesn't even know how to use my phone...it's "confusing". IPhone ftw
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Yes, every ROM includes a kernel.
But Hboot 1.15 and above do not let you flash things to the boot partition in recovery. The kernel goes in the boot partition. So you can't flash kernels normally through recovery.
If your on a sense ROM and flash an AOSP rom, the phone wont boot
If your on an AOSP ROM and flash a sense ROM, the phone wont boot
If your on an old base and flash a new base, the ROM will have issues (if it even boots)
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-wip.html
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Next, we are going to hear crap like, "my pet hamster ate my nandroid thumb drive."
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