root or unlock? - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

I am under the impression that if you unlock your boot loader you can flash a custom rom without rooting....is that true?

Correct.

ok great. I have my prime insured through my insurance company and given that asus rma's have a terrible reputatation i'm going to unlock, know of a good tutorial or guidline anywhere? the couple video's i found under the developement thread weren't to clear....

vballrkc said:
ok great. I have my prime insured through my insurance company and given that asus rma's have a terrible reputatation i'm going to unlock, know of a good tutorial or guidline anywhere? the couple video's i found under the developement thread weren't to clear....
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I think you don't need a video or tutorial because you run the official ASUS unlock (apk) and that's it. It takes a few second.
But be aware that there is no way back! And you're loosing your guarantee!
For my personal use rooting is much more important than unlocking.

By asking the question, you lead me to suspect you may not realise the meaning of the question. You don't need to root first before unlocking and flashing a ROM, but you will be rooted by the time you finish.
Also see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707955

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[UNLOCK] Unlocked bootloader

I did not create "it", but the unlock tool is here: link
I am really looking forward to the first ROMs
I just saw that and not sure (afraid) to try it yet 'couse I just got mine TFP. It will break all agreement with ASUS.
Please post any results and experiences.
Nice
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Anyone tried it yet? Lol.
mutiny said:
Anyone tried it yet? Lol.
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and what do you think?
allready running with unlocked bootloader
I just read the other threads (I should have before asking --lol) and I've come to the conclusion that right now, at least for me, it's not worth unlocking yet. Here are my reasons:
1. There are zero development on the Prime as of now, so why unlock besides to void warranty?
2. If you do unlock and knock-on-wood something happens to your Prime before we get CM9 or other roms, what do you do?
3. Unless you're a dev or someone who is fairly knowledgeable/confident in your rom-development skills, what are you going to do with your unlocked Prime?
Are there any advantages I'm missing? I'm not sure if anyone agrees with me, but that's how I feel right now. Note that I am not at all gun shy about dumping my warranty for the real good stuff. Like many here, all Android phones I've ever owned, including my entire family's Android phones and tablets (also my other tablet --a Xoom) are rooted with custom roms and recoveries.
I advised those who don't develop or don't know much about rooting to not try this. There are just too many "what-ifs" against this method. For example, what if someone comes up with a way to unlock that doesn't go through Asus? By some miracle, if that happens, everyone who uses Asus' unlock will have a very iffy device with no warranty coverage whatsoever. Just a thought.
mutiny said:
I just read the other threads (I should have before asking --lol) and I've come to the conclusion that right now, at least for me, it's not worth unlocking yet. Here are my reasons:
1. There are zero development on the Prime as of now, so why unlock besides to void warranty?
2. If you do unlock and knock-on-wood something happens to your Prime before we get CM9 or other roms, what do you do?
3. Unless you're a dev or someone who is fairly knowledgeable/confident in your rom-development skills, what are you going to do with your unlocked Prime?
Are there any advantages I'm missing? I'm not sure if anyone agrees with me, but that's how I feel right now. Note that I am not at all gun shy about dumping my warranty for the real good stuff. Like many here, all Android phones I've ever owned, including my entire family's Android phones and tablets (also my other tablet --a Xoom) are rooted with custom roms and recoveries.
I advised those who don't develop or don't know much about rooting to not try this. There are just too many "what-ifs" against this method. For example, what if someone comes up with a way to unlock that doesn't go through Asus? By some miracle, if that happens, everyone who uses Asus' unlock will have a very iffy device with no warranty coverage whatsoever. Just a thought.
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Right this minute, it's not necessary to unlock. However, my guess is that in less than a day we'll have a ClockworkMod version for the prime and you will need an unlocked bootloader to utilize it. This will allow you to make a full backup of your device (stock) and have a good backup plan should you run into issues in the future with an OTA, etc. The roms will be coming very soon.
Video about it is here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBY6GY8G5lg&hd=1&list=PLFA87501087653A16
I'm gonna do it! I want to install Ubuntu on mine. Please watch the video, and subscribe if you liked it!
CWM Recovery is already out too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510983
does anyon know yet what "SERVICES" they blocked with the unlock, i read somewhere a LOOOONG time ago that they were going to block certain services when they released the bootloader unlock
If I remeber correctly, you're not able to use google music with an unlocked bootloader, because of the DRM security.
Bart1981 said:
If I remeber correctly, you're not able to use google music with an unlocked bootloader, because of the DRM security.
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I'm not sure about that since I use it on my Galaxy Nexus with an unlocked bootloader.
ASUS’s reason for locking the bootloader was simply to comply with DRM protected content. Which a fair response. Not really something many of really are interested in any ways with services like Netflix and Google Music though.
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source
Not shure though if they mean with 'comply' if you're not able to use it anymore with an unlocked bootloader.
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Here's some more info about unlocking the bootloader and the DRM content.
Regarding the bootloader, the reason we chose to lock it is due to content providers' requirement for DRM client devices to be as secure as possible. ASUS supports Google DRM in order to provide users with a high quality video rental experience. Also, based on our experience, users who choose to root their devices risk breaking the system completely. However, we know there is demand in the modding community to have an unlocked bootloader. Therefore, ASUS is developing an unlock tool for that community. Please do note that if you choose to unlock your device, the ASUS warranty will be void, and Google video rental will also be unavailable because the device will be no longer protected by security mechanism.
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Bart1981 said:
If I remeber correctly, you're not able to use google music with an unlocked bootloader, because of the DRM security.
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You can't use the movie rental service I know that but never heard anything about music
Does this wipe the tablet like when unlocking the nexus?
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since some people don't do research
please before you start.. and if you have root
Code:
adb logcat > output.txt
when all **** is done, please upload it to a pastebin or send it to me in a private message..
p.s. you can do this when you have adb set up or in the terminal from the device itselve.
Cm9 is booted on the Device!
Now a little waiting for the custom roms and probably a proper dual boot solution with windows just for the hell of it. Things are looking great so far with CWR already a go. I love the devs here.
Asus delivers in the end. Cheers.
The obvious question that I haven't seen asked yet...will it be possible to develop a tool to lock your bootloader again? If the bootloader can be unlocked with an apk file, there should at least be hope to lock it again by reversing whatever the apk did.

[Q] Rooting the Bell Galaxy Note SGH-I717m? I'm scared... (Please read!)

Hey there! I have a question, I just got myself a Galaxy Note SGH I717m running 2.3.6 from Bell a week ago and I'm thinking about rooting it. I've read that a few users rendered their device laggy and choppy after doing it and I'm really new to all of this so I wanna know exactly what I need (softwares/firmwares/files) in order to root it without ****ing it up.. I'm addicted to the phone and I don't wanna make it slow!
I've found a tutorial already but the phone used for it was the international version of the galaxy note so I decided not to try it unless someone who knows what hes doing tells me that it will work and not mess anything up!
Any help/tutorial would be *GREATLY* appreciated! Thanks in advance
Haven't you read any of the android development ?...read,read,read......if your scared to root you shouldn't ....we all read and do research to learn what we would like do or not to do...no one hear is gonna hold your hand and dobit for you...not to sound like a d**k.....but your not apparently ready for any of this..If you wont spend the time to research
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Hey there! I have a question, I just got myself a Galaxy Note SGH I717m running 2.3.6 from Bell a week ago and I'm thinking about rooting it. I've read that a few users rendered their device laggy and choppy after doing it and I'm really new to all of this so I wanna know exactly what I need (softwares/firmwares/files) in order to root it without ****ing it up.. I'm addicted to the phone and I don't wanna make it slow!
I've found a tutorial already but the phone used for it was the international version of the galaxy note so I decided not to try it unless someone who knows what hes doing tells me that it will work and not mess anything up!
Any help/tutorial would be *GREATLY* appreciated! Thanks in advance
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I rooted mine using mashi's method (a rooted AT&T rom) and it made my phone incredibly laggy with respect to the capacitive buttons. However, a friend of mine also rooted his using a different method and I haven't heard him complain at all. The method he used to root is a little more complex than some of the others available.
In either case, if you do decide to take the plunge, I've made stocks files of the Bell Galaxy Note that you can flash and get back to normal. You can find them at this thread.
And what wish777 said is good advice. Read up on it before you do. Be sure you're comfortable with it.
Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
wish777 said:
not to sound like a d**k.....
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No offense but you failed at it. I never asked for someone to do it for me!
MrJoran said:
I rooted mine using mashi's method (a rooted AT&T rom) and it made my phone incredibly laggy with respect to the capacitive buttons. However, a friend of mine also rooted his using a different method and I haven't heard him complain at all. The method he used to root is a little more complex than some of the others available.
In either case, if you do decide to take the plunge, I've made stocks files of the Bell Galaxy Note that you can flash and get back to normal. You can find them at this thread.
And what wish777 said is good advice. Read up on it before you do. Be sure you're comfortable with it.
Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
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That's definitely going to be useful, thanks a lot mate! And sorry 'bout that, next time I'm gonna read before posting on this forums.
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
NaughtyBot said:
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
I'm still waiting for a pure mac osx root method...
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
No offense but you failed at it. I never asked for someone to do it for me!
That's definitely going to be useful, thanks a lot mate! And sorry 'bout that, next time I'm gonna read before posting on this forums.
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well after you edited your post i guess your right..lmao
NaughtyBot said:
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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I agree with you, thank you very much for your advices!
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I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
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Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge!! That's definitely gonna help me... I'm starting to feel a bit more comfortable with rooting my Note
wish777 said:
well after you edited your post i guess your right..lmao
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What the f, the only think I edited was the topic name.
MrJoran said:
I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
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I completely agree that the sheer volume of information in this particular forum is overwhelming and, in many cases, unclear and not (necessarily) relevant to the Canadian Note handhelds (Rogers, Bell or Telus).
I'm looking for information specific to rooting and unrooting my Rogers Note I717R with my Bell service and it's been a frustrating couple of days, with a handful of fruitless attempts to unroot, resulting in a re-flash to stock.
Oh well...I'll keep digging and doing this research. It seems that it was so much easier on my Moto Atrix, but I digress
Thanks all!
aus
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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This method is easy and very similar to the one I used. But I'm fairly certain it will trip the flash counter. Just be sure to reset it if you need any warranty work.
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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Same one I linked in my previous post. Haven't used it personally but I know people who have and it worked for them. Added bonus of not replacing your stock ROM, which is a big plus for us Canadian users who don't want AT&T crap.
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
NaughtyBot said:
This method is easy and very similar to the one I used. But I'm fairly certain it will trip the flash counter. Just be sure to reset it if you need any warranty work.
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Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
MrJoran said:
Same one I linked in my previous post. Haven't used it personally but I know people who have and it worked for them. Added bonus of not replacing your stock ROM, which is a big plus for us Canadian users who don't want AT&T crap.
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Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
I rooted using Da_G method. Easy to follow install guide. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. But I do agree with previous posters, the info can be very overwhelming. Some devs provide good step by step info while others are vague or don't consider others level of experience when writing instructions. Read, read, read and only venture into the unknown when you are reasonably comfortable.
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
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No need to make backup unless you what to make a NANDROID using CWM. Otherwise, you can use the stock stuff I made for the Bell Note already.
Flash counter tripping is no big deal. Don't worry about it.
ROM is the operating system of the phone. And yes, this method does seem to just add what is needed to your stock ROM. But again, easy to return to stock using the files I've posted.
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I rooted using Da_G method. Easy to follow install guide. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. But I do agree with previous posters, the info can be very overwhelming. Some devs provide good step by step info while others are vague or don't consider others level of experience when writing instructions. Read, read, read and only venture into the unknown when you are reasonably comfortable.
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Yeah, it is indeed really overwhelming, I'm kinda lost! I'll keep on reading, thanks for the precious advice!
MrJoran said:
No need to make backup unless you what to make a NANDROID using CWM. Otherwise, you can use the stock stuff I made for the Bell Note already.
Flash counter tripping is no big deal. Don't worry about it.
ROM is the operating system of the phone. And yes, this method does seem to just add what is needed to your stock ROM. But again, easy to return to stock using the files I've posted.
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Ok so if I'm right, a nandroid backup is a backup of the ROM with all the user settings/data that you can use to go back to the previous settings in case you don't like the new ROM you've flashed onto your device?
One last question, is it 100% sure that the files you uploaded are going to work my I717M? I bought it in montreal, if that can help you determining if it will work or not... And once again, thank you very much for the information!
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Ok so if I'm right, a nandroid backup is a backup of the ROM with all the user settings/data that you can use to go back to the previous settings in case you don't like the new ROM you've flashed onto your device?
One last question, is it 100% sure that the files you uploaded are going to work my I717M? I bought it in montreal, if that can help you determining if it will work or not... And once again, thank you very much for the information!
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You're correct on the NANDROID. And as I understand it, all the i717M are the same. I have the same i717M as you and that's where the files are from. And Naughty Bot also has an i717M and has used the files to go back to stock. The only thing that may be different on yours (and I doubt this) is there may be some French specific stuff because you bought it in Quebec but you can confirm that for us. Even if there is a long as you don't mind losing that stuff then you're good to go.
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
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From what I've learned so far, there's no way to back up ALL your data and user settings until AFTER you've rooted the phone (using NANDROID or something like Titanium Backup). If you have a Google account and store your contacts and email in Gmail, that should be all be stored on Google's servers. You can use something like MyBackup Pro to back up some of your stuff but in most cases, you can't back up app data (like game saves and stuff) until after the phone is rooted. Android just won't let you get at it. However, most rooting methods don't usually touch your data, just make sure to follow the instructions closely and also make sure that the root method has been tested on your particular version of the phone. Take note that, if you unroot the phone, all your NANDROID/Titanium restore data becomes useless (phone needs to be rooted to restore it, pretty sure).
As for the flash counter, it used to be a big deal but not so much anymore. The phone has a counter that records how many times the phone has been flashed with a custom (non-stock) ROM. If you ever had to return your phone for warranty work and the counter was greater than one, Sammy had grounds to refuse to honour the warranty. You could unroot the phone but that didn't reset the flash counter. Braway came up with a method a few weeks ago but the problem was that it wasn't specifically for Canadian phones. Then MrJoran managed to obtain the stock Android components (with some help from willing friends) for the Bell Note and assembled a method of unrooting the Bell Note with provisions for resetting the flash counter. Now the only thing you have to worry about is if you brick the phone in such a way that you can't flash stock ROMs back to it. Of course, in that case Samsung probably wouldn't be able to see what you've done anyway (most likely). But once the warranty is expired, flash away. Go nuts, no warranty, doesn't matter.
I stand to be corrected on any/all of this. And what MrJoran said about the French stuff.
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You're correct on the NANDROID. And as I understand it, all the i717M are the same. I have the same i717M as you and that's where the files are from. And Naughty Bot also has an i717M and has used the files to go back to stock. The only thing that may be different on yours (and I doubt this) is there may be some French specific stuff because you bought it in Quebec but you can confirm that for us. Even if there is a long as you don't mind losing that stuff then you're good to go.
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Awesome! That's all I needed to know by the way, these are the only apps that might not be included in your files, I'm not sure though and I don't care if I loose them I think I can easily get them back on Bell's site, I will confirm that in a day or two, once I convinced myself to root the Note!
NaughtyBot said:
From what I've learned so far, there's no way to back up ALL your data and user settings until AFTER you've rooted the phone (using NANDROID or something like Titanium Backup). If you have a Google account and store your contacts and email in Gmail, that should be all be stored on Google's servers. You can use something like MyBackup Pro to back up some of your stuff but in most cases, you can't back up app data (like game saves and stuff) until after the phone is rooted. Android just won't let you get at it. However, most rooting methods don't usually touch your data, just make sure to follow the instructions closely and also make sure that the root method has been tested on your particular version of the phone. Take note that, if you unroot the phone, all your NANDROID/Titanium restore data becomes useless (phone needs to be rooted to restore it, pretty sure).
As for the flash counter, it used to be a big deal but not so much anymore. The phone has a counter that records how many times the phone has been flashed with a custom (non-stock) ROM. If you ever had to return your phone for warranty work and the counter was greater than one, Sammy had grounds to refuse to honour the warranty. You could unroot the phone but that didn't reset the flash counter. Braway came up with a method a few weeks ago but the problem was that it wasn't specifically for Canadian phones. Then MrJoran managed to obtain the stock Android components (with some help from willing friends) for the Bell Note and assembled a method of unrooting the Bell Note with provisions for resetting the flash counter. Now the only thing you have to worry about is if you brick the phone in such a way that you can't flash stock ROMs back to it. Of course, in that case Samsung probably wouldn't be able to see what you've done anyway (most likely). But once the warranty is expired, flash away. Go nuts, no warranty, doesn't matter.
I stand to be corrected on any/all of this. And what MrJoran said about the French stuff.
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Yeah you're right, the phone has to be rooted to be restored and thanks for explaining the flash counter thing in dept, it's much more clear now! I was just a bit afraid to root it since I've been experiencing a weird bug on the phone and I might have to bring it to Bell to have it checked up or something but now, it's all good!

Rooting really annoying

Hello!
I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory) I just cant work like this. Someone would say, google it... I have a life, I don't want to google every single thing I don't understand.
I rooted a nexus with ease, this is just insane.
Sorry, im just not impressed, tried to root it a lot of times, it always ended me loosing my temper. Worst manufacturer for unlocking. Allready unlocked a psp, a samsung, asus, ps3, wii...but this is just stupid..
Anyone wanna help me out? Give me a link to a good tutorial?
Or just let me dump the phone?
Thanks...
AW: Rooting really annoying
This is what q&a forum stands for...
Anyway:
If you only want root, the easiest way would be to follow the htcdev.com instructions to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery afterwards. Then just flash a superuser.zip and you're done
(A+B from first link)
To avoid problems with flashing roms it might be useful to s-off your phone so that you can change your hboot
1 option is the wire trick (a,b,d )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
or follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124142
Edit thread reported because of wrong forum
Will most likely move to q/a soon, just to let you know
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This is what q&a forum stands for...
Anyway:
If you only want root, the easiest way would be to follow the htcdev.com instructions to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery afterwards. Then just flash a superuser.zip and you're done
(A+B from first link)
To avoid problems with flashing roms it might be useful to s-off your phone so that you can change your hboot
1 option is the wire trick (a,b,d )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
or follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124142
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And I can later unroot it and put it back to normal if there will be a hardware fail so I can send it to sevice?
Thanks for the links and stuff
AW: Rooting really annoying
If your phone is still working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136964
(If you did the s-off steps)
If you used htcdev they will always know that you unlocked your phone, but that seems to be worse than it actually is:
If you are not sending your phone to HTC directly, but to where you buyed it, they will most likely not look for that
If your phone is completely broken they can't proof that it was your fault (or they dont do it because its too much work) and if there are issues that have nothing to do with rooting, etc like a broken screen or similar they still have to repair it with warranty
(That's what I believe,but it might be difficult in some cases and different in some countries)
Quantenhall said:
If your phone is still working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136964
(If you did the s-off steps)
If you used htcdev they will always know that you unlocked your phone, but that seems to be worse than it actually is:
If you are not sending your phone to HTC directly, but to where you buyed it, they will most likely not look for that
If your phone is completely broken they can't proof that it was your fault (or they dont do it because its too much work) and if there are issues that have nothing to do with rooting, etc like a broken screen or similar they still have to repair it with warranty
(That's what I believe,but it might be difficult in some cases and different in some countries)
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Well that is a problem... :S
If I send my phone, I send it to my mobile provider, then they send it to a authorised htc servicer...
I really don't care if I loose it, IF the phone would work like it should (this is my 2nd evo, the fist one visited the service 7 times, and the new ones 3D isnt working... :S )
Im gonna call them tomorrow and ask them how is it with the unlock...
Do I have to do the s-off?
I just want a stock android because sense is slow...
Maybe a link to a really simple android 4.0 + ?
AW: Rooting really annoying
No rom discussions on xda/evo forum, sry :/
The most used jb roms should be the ones from johnnyslt(cm10.1), helicopter88 (several aosp roms) and agrabren (4.1 , a bit outdated)
For 3d cam you have to use a sense rom
The gsm forum is full of roms, try them yourself
Without s-off some ROMs/kernel can make problems and you need it to change your hboot
This is needed because with some hboots (1.53 for example) you can't use ROMs that are not based on sense 3/3.6 (+viper afaik)
mrsofa said:
Hello!
I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory) I just cant work like this. Someone would say, google it... I have a life, I don't want to google every single thing I don't understand.
I rooted a nexus with ease, this is just insane.
Sorry, im just not impressed, tried to root it a lot of times, it always ended me loosing my temper. Worst manufacturer for unlocking. Allready unlocked a psp, a samsung, asus, ps3, wii...but this is just stupid..
Anyone wanna help me out? Give me a link to a good tutorial?
Or just let me dump the phone?
Thanks...
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I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
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Sorry, but just unlocking your phone destroys it's warranty. So if you want your warranty, don't unlock it and root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory)
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You are supposed to download the Android SDK files, and then drop them into C:\Android, like it says, easy enough for a 6 year old to do it.
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Also, it's complicating so idiots don't break their phones or get screwed over by giving complete access to the phone with a simple click of a button in an application.
'Blu said:
You are supposed to download the Android SDK files, and then drop them into C:\Android, like it says, easy enough for a 6 year old to do it.
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Also, it's complicating so idiots don't break their phones or get screwed over by giving complete access to the phone with a simple click of a button in an application.
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Noone said where to put it... it just said, like it is normal to have the android sdk installed...
And htc is probably the only phone that has this procces so long and confusing
Just confess that youre a htc fan boy and cant confess a single fail.
Why does samsung or asus have the unlocking process much easyer then? And why can I still get my warranty on them if I lock them back up? I can just say that htc is the worst phone ever...
mrsofa said:
Noone said where to put it... it just said, like it is normal to have the android sdk installed...
And htc is probably the only phone that has this procces so long and confusing
Just confess that youre a htc fan boy and cant confess a single fail.
Why does samsung or asus have the unlocking process much easyer then? And why can I still get my warranty on them if I lock them back up? I can just say that htc is the worst phone ever...
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Lol, I'm not an HTC fanboy at all, you're just, well, dumb. All you're doing is whining about how HTC phones are "hard" (they're not... lol) and the fact that you clearly void your warranty like it says when you're unlocking the phone. Just because the company is actually smart and does things right, doesn't mean they're bad. It just means you can't cope with how things really are and want everything to be perfect and dandy, but you can't have things your way some times.
'Blu said:
Lol, I'm not an HTC fanboy at all, you're just, well, dumb. All you're doing is whining about how HTC phones are "hard" (they're not... lol) and the fact that you clearly void your warranty like it says when you're unlocking the phone. Just because the company is actually smart and does things right, doesn't mean they're bad. It just means you can't cope with how things really are and want everything to be perfect and dandy, but you can't have things your way some times.
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Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
mrsofa said:
Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
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Well, I'm not going to bother with you at all . You're pretty arrogant for trying to keep the thought of all phones being the same. HTC is their own brand, they make their phones how they wish. If you're not smart enough to run a few lines in command prompt then don't keep trying because it looks like you're not even willing to try it out. I can tell you right now, that unlocking your phone is so simple it's not even funny, you're just not looking into it and worrying about it being easy.
'Blu said:
Well, I'm not going to bother with you at all . You're pretty arrogant for trying to keep the thought of all phones being the same. HTC is their own brand, they make their phones how they wish. If you're not smart enough to run a few lines in command prompt then don't keep trying because it looks like you're not even willing to try it out. I can tell you right now, that unlocking your phone is so simple it's not even funny, you're just not looking into it and worrying about it being easy.
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Nope. Why make so many steps? Why waste half of my day for this? No thanks!
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Nope. Why make so many steps? Why waste half of my day for this? No thanks!
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Well, because that's how HTC wants it to be. Phones aren't simple anymore, get over that fact.
'Blu said:
Well, because that's how HTC wants it to be. Phones aren't simple anymore, get over that fact.
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Htc isnt simple. Enogh now. Im gonna call htc service tomorow and find out how it goes...
mrsofa said:
Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
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No offense, but thats a nexus. It doesnot matter who manufactures the Nexus device, they all are so easy to unlock. Even if HTC makes one it would be easier....
and the methods change from one device to another even if they are from same manufacturer (if you are doing it the unofficial way ofc)
hey... plain and simple if you don't want to loose your warranty. LEAVE IT ALONE!. I have 3 HTC phones all unlocked, rooted and running custom roms. to me it was easy! i just read everything i could to make sure i understood. i watched videos and just did it. to me it sound like you are just scared (which is ok) but just leave it alone if it is that big of a deal!
jaredl45600 said:
hey... plain and simple if you don't want to loose your warranty. LEAVE IT ALONE!. I have 3 HTC phones all unlocked, rooted and running custom roms. to me it was easy! i just read everything i could to make sure i understood. i watched videos and just did it. to me it sound like you are just scared (which is ok) but just leave it alone if it is that big of a deal!
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Yes im scared, when I see something and dont understand it...i just cant go like : wgatevery, lets try like this...
Anyway... called tge service, I loose warranty if I unlock it, but if I lock it back when the device needs service then its not a problem
My strategy, I read everything I can 3 times before I try it. I also read every problem and read the solutions so I know how to fix it. Once you do it, you will say, that was easy. Once you actually understand what every step does and means, your brain will capture the info easier and it will make sense. An remember, if you break it, chances are someone else has a fix for what you did because they did the same thing.
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Tried with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNoL_EPJH9I
I sent the code to htc, and got a unlock code and get this error:
sending 'unlocktoken' (0 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.143s]
writing 'unlocktoken'...
FAILED (remote: unlock token check failed)
What? What?
There are like 5 steps. Don't tell me to try again, done it 5 times already.
Using win8 is this a problem?
You must be to stupid to follow the guides. I would say. Stop asking for help on rooting your evo. And stop talking sh*@ about the procces. Go and buy and buy an iphone they have jaibreak guide for dummies.
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Verizon OTA 4.3 bootloader downgrade - MOBILETECHVIDEOS

Little story.....
I spent weeks and couple hundred dollars looking for a solution for the bootloader lock on my OTA 4.3 Verizon Note 2. i heard about the site called MobileTechVideos. I emailed and asked questions, Josh was very responsive and said they could do it. So i sent the phone to them....1 week later (today) I get a call from Josh saying all is well and I am downgraded successfully and it would ship out today. i can't say enough about MobileTechVideos, and their site is packed with info and videos. check them out!
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-bootloader-sboot-downgrade-service/
But Young Jedi...
onefast50 said:
Little story.....
I spent weeks and couple hundred dollars looking for a solution for the bootloader lock on my OTA 4.3 Verizon Note 2. i heard about the site called MobileTechVideos. I emailed and asked questions, Josh was very responsive and said they could do it. So i sent the phone to them....1 week later (today) I get a call from Josh saying all is well and I am downgraded successfully and it would ship out today. i can't say enough about MobileTechVideos, and their site is packed with info and videos. check them out!
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I have spent a vast amount of research and hands on technical work on downgrading
From: VRUEMJ9 4.3
To: VRALJB 4.1.1
And it possible. The problem isn't downgrading the ROM, it's the bootloader, it consistently stays at a 4.3 Bootloader while the ROM is at 4.1.1. Your post looks more like a promotion/advertisement, therefore I ask you OneFast50, can MobileTechVideos:
1) Downgrade the bootloader
2) Unlock the bootloader
3) Load a custom recovery (CWM, Philz, TWRP).......
4) Furthermore installing a custom rom?
If Josh at MobileTechVideos can accomplish all this, then Josh and his peeps are gurus and I will happily send them my phone, tuck my tail between my legs, and hats off to them! Taking it a step further, this is what fellow techies really want: If we could please get a technical post by [email protected] here on XDA describing the process that him and his team used to perform the four requirements above. This would be the most beneficial post that the rest of the Note II SCH-I605 4.3 community could really appreciate. Awaiting a follow up OneFast50
Yes that's the service they offer and obviously they aren't going to post how to do it or they would lose business
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
connexion2005 said:
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
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I believe the z3x and Easy JTAG can do this, but that's only if you can solder direct ISP, breadboard, and then hope there's no shorts and you didn't damage any tracers. Go with MobileTechVideos. I've heard nothing but excellent things about you guys.
connexion2005 said:
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
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Thanks again Josh
Joe
I would just like to CONFIRM with the first few posts that it can be done.
In addition to the above methods described:
1- Send It Away
2- eMMC
There are other ways as well. I have successfully downgraded the bootloader with a RIFF Box and weeks of communication with a friend in Turkey.
I am only posting this to let others know that there are other methods and that they shouldn't give up hope on someone unlocking it one day. I unfortunately cannot unlock the bootloader.
Any DEVS or Members that are actively working on unlocking the bootloader on a realistic level for the community (not for personal use or knowledge) can contact me through PM if they have any questions.
I will NOT be answering ANY questions in this thread. Sorry.
-h311sdr0id
h311sdr0id said:
I would just like to CONFIRM with the first few posts that it can be done.
In addition to the above methods described:
1- Send It Away
2- eMMC
There are other ways as well. I have successfully downgraded the bootloader with a RIFF Box and weeks of communication with a friend in Turkey.
I am only posting this to let others know that there are other methods and that they shouldn't give up hope on someone unlocking it one day. I unfortunately cannot unlock the bootloader.
Any DEVS or Members that are actively working on unlocking the bootloader on a realistic level for the community (not for personal use or knowledge) can contact me through PM if they have any questions.
I will NOT be answering ANY questions in this thread. Sorry.
-h311sdr0id
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ur alive its been a long time but honestly why cant we just dd the old bootloader? this isnt qualcomm and none of the new 4.3 firmware is attached to bootloader. the s3 has ties with aboot and sbl1 aka if u flash new firmware on old bootloader u brick or if u flash old firmware on new bootloader u brick(s3) the note2 isnt like that we can use full 4.3 firmware on 4.1 and vice versa.. unless its somehow tied to the pbl.. which i really have no idea about.
connexion2005 said:
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
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why do u need adams permission to give a more thorough post? isnt this your store? your method? i get the need to make money but seems kinda shady that him and lee stopped working on a new unlock and your now selling downgrades.. with his permission lol..
just my .02 this is xda its suposed to be a place to learn, help the community, teach these verizon/att trolls that locking down bootloaders isnt nice..
would have been nice to continue the saga
no you verizon - xda seriously ur done - we never give up verizon
Edit: i dont mean any disrespect to anyone here adam, lee, josh just the way i read the above post sounded kinda fishy
I understand what your saying. First off, I have zero affiliation with either of those developers. I made that post purely for other moderators to understand that I come in peace. There is such a fine line to walk on these forums when you have some sort of a profitable organization. I always make sure I'm within the bounds of the XDA rules and guidelines so I made that post to help make sure the thread was not closed. Adam in no way benefits from any of my work is 100% a man of the community for those that know him. Anyhow, I'm confident those guys are working on a DIY solution but the issue here is that currently, there simply is not one.
By the way I'm a fan of your work @BeansTown106!
connexion2005 said:
I understand what your saying. First off, I have zero affiliation with either of those developers. I made that post purely for other moderators to understand that I come in peace. There is such a fine line to walk on these forums when you have some sort of a profitable organization. I always make sure I'm within the bounds of the XDA rules and guidelines so I made that post to help make sure the thread was not closed. Adam in no way benefits from any of my work is 100% a man of the community for those that know him. Anyhow, I'm confident those guys are working on a DIY solution but the issue here is that currently, there simply is not one.
By the way I'm a fan of your work @BeansTown106!
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gotcha thanks josh, i didnt mean the above post in a disrespectful way towards either of you guys. was just curious, re reading it it might of sounded a little hostile but it was more of how i guess i read the other post. thanks for clearing up any confusion and ya i know adam is a good guy i have talked to him quite a bit in the past. hopefully him and lee are working on something DIY although last time i talked with adam he said the device is old now and he doesnt want to work on it anymore.. i guess time will tell.. i have been reversing casual and going through the peices/comparing to stock files etc. to see how it was originally done more so for personal knowledge and to see if i can replicate it at all but i doubt i will be succesful lol.. all i have to say is it was really unique how it was originally done
thanks for being a fan, i am as well, i have sent you a cpl devices in the past. iirc was a old gtab 2 and the s4 when me7 first hit. you do great work and i have always reccomended you!
I'd imagine it's as simple as erasing/re-provisioning the RPMB and either bypassing write protection on the eMMC or change it via EXT_CSD registers.
connexion2005 said:
I understand what your saying. First off, I have zero affiliation with either of those developers. I made that post purely for other moderators to understand that I come in peace. There is such a fine line to walk on these forums when you have some sort of a profitable organization. I always make sure I'm within the bounds of the XDA rules and guidelines so I made that post to help make sure the thread was not closed. Adam in no way benefits from any of my work is 100% a man of the community for those that know him. Anyhow, I'm confident those guys are working on a DIY solution but the issue here is that currently, there simply is not one.
By the way I'm a fan of your work @BeansTown106!
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Maybe it would be in our interest or this forum interest to direct are attention to this method..
Not sure how far he has come/got working.. Even though it is not a total unlock, it is a viable solution
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Viva La MobileTEchVideos!
I can vouch for MobileTechVideos too. Best cash I spent to get a bricked phone back with the right bootloader on it. Very responsive and professional. Thanks Josh.
guitari said:
I have spent a vast amount of research and hands on technical work on downgrading
From: VRUEMJ9 4.3
To: VRALJB 4.1.1
And it possible. The problem isn't downgrading the ROM, it's the bootloader, it consistently stays at a 4.3 Bootloader while the ROM is at 4.1.1. Your post looks more like a promotion/advertisement, therefore I ask you OneFast50, can MobileTechVideos:
1) Downgrade the bootloader
2) Unlock the bootloader
3) Load a custom recovery (CWM, Philz, TWRP).......
4) Furthermore installing a custom rom?
If Josh at MobileTechVideos can accomplish all this, then Josh and his peeps are gurus and I will happily send them my phone, tuck my tail between my legs, and hats off to them! Taking it a step further, this is what fellow techies really want: If we could please get a technical post by [email protected] here on XDA describing the process that him and his team used to perform the four requirements above. This would be the most beneficial post that the rest of the Note II SCH-I605 4.3 community could really appreciate. Awaiting a follow up OneFast50
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h311sdr0id said:
I would just like to CONFIRM with the first few posts that it can be done.
In addition to the above methods described:
1- Send It Away
2- eMMC
There are other ways as well. I have successfully downgraded the bootloader with a RIFF Box and weeks of communication with a friend in Turkey.
I am only posting this to let others know that there are other methods and that they shouldn't give up hope on someone unlocking it one day. I unfortunately cannot unlock the bootloader.
Any DEVS or Members that are actively working on unlocking the bootloader on a realistic level for the community (not for personal use or knowledge) can contact me through PM if they have any questions.
I will NOT be answering ANY questions in this thread. Sorry.
-h311sdr0id
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I don't think it would be too much to ask for proof of this? Or at least comment in the S4 Jtag downgrade thread or bootloader thread? Why not help the community out? And if your not answering questions in this thread then what thread would you direct me to in which you will answer questions? Of course you can PM the answers too if you wish.
Ya so were I send my phone 2 & how much? I clicked the link and it was dead
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Link works... $75.00,
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lacoursiere18 said:
Maybe it would be in our interest or this forum interest to direct are attention to this method..
Not sure how far he has come/got working.. Even though it is not a total unlock, it is a viable solution
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
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Apaco said:
I can vouch for MobileTechVideos too. Best cash I spent to get a bricked phone back with the right bootloader on it. Very responsive and professional. Thanks Josh.
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Surge1223 said:
I don't think it would be too much to ask for proof of this? Or at least comment in the S4 Jtag downgrade thread or bootloader thread? Why not help the community out? And if your not answering questions in this thread then what thread would you direct me to in which you will answer questions? Of course you can PM the answers too if you wish.
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kkemp31 said:
Ya so were I send my phone 2 & how much? I clicked the link and it was dead
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manbat said:
Link works... $75.00,
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Listen guys, if you want to know the truth, h311sdr0id is still "not available" at the moment. I am currently taking care of all his forum accounts, websites, and emails u til he is back. I have to print out all these things every 2 days, and then send them to him in the mail.
Whatever he was working on (around the time of this post) is part of the reason he is gone now . If you don't know what I mean by that, then I don't know what to tell you.
I cannot do anything for you at this time. I just learned how to change my ring tone yesterday... You see what I mean...
PLEASE PM HIM!!!!
I send him all his PMs and he loves to hear from you guys.
I will try and post replies to his PMs every week. So of you have a question, go ahead and PM his account.
He should be back soon.... I hope.
Mrs. h311sdr0id
How many different model phones are you gonna start a thread stating you can downgrade bootloader versions? You post with no information or proof. Then you say "that's all I'm gonna say about it" or you state its through JTAG or a riff box. Then you request that the thread gets closed.
Close this one too and move along.
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michigan66 said:
How many different model phones are you gonna start a thread stating you can downgrade bootloader versions? You post with no information or proof. Then you say "that's all I'm gonna say about it" or you state its through JTAG or a riff box. Then you request that the thread gets closed.
Close this one too and move along.
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Agreed. On S4 and older, there's only ONE way to legitimately downgrade. That's to do a MoviNAND format + reset so the rollback protection bytes are wiped from the RPMB. You must do this via Direct eMMC ISP. It certainly is possible via JTAG, but I HIGHLY doubt he had the resources or information to do so, unless it was stolen, in which case he's in jail for it.
connexion2005 said:
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
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[Q] Better Rooting Methods

Before anyone flames me for creating this thread and then closing it, I just want to let staff know that I did indeed read the sticky threads.
All the instructions for how to root a C6806 on this site seem a bit complex with many steps and quite risky if you are not a Linux and Android phone geek who knows exactly what they are doing. It seems way too easy to make a mistake and permanently brick a phone or lose Dram keys or simply not be able to completely unroot for warranty's sake.
I used to work in the IT field over a decade ago with some training in Network Technology before I got married and I find these instructions too risky for an expensive phone that is too vital for personal and business needs to take a moderate to strong risk of damaging the phone beyond warranty. I can only imagine how someone with little to no Linux or Android experience would fare trying to follow all these steps.
I was hoping that someone could develop a program or app that could do this a lot easier. Not necessarily one click root easy as ideal as that might be but at least simplifying enough so the less than geekworthy can root this phone. Not making rooting feasible for the general public does only encourages future phone makers to keep phones locked and unrooted.
I would really like to use the 64GB SD Card for apps and I would like to use Avast Security for rooted users but there is no way I can trust myself through all the steps of flash software download, system backup, boot unlock, system version rollback, pre-flash procedures, flash, post-flash inspection and probably a few other things I missed.
Unfortunately it's a bit more complex than that.. Unless you unlock your bootloader or have root you won't be able to run the app that you want to unlock the bootloader and/or root with.
Good news is you are wrong re "easy to hardbrick" - flashing stock firmware always an option to recover the device.
At the end of the day to get the benefits of what you call "risky" you will have to take a few "risks"
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As buzzy said, there really is no risk in hard bricking the zu unless you really are inept. The steps are easy once you understand them:
1. Downgrade to 532 ftf (read my sticky)
2. Root with Bin4ry's or [NUT]'s tool (see my or lordmanhattan's threads)
3. Back up TA (see lord's thread)
4. Flash latest FTF
5. Unlock BL and flash a rootable kernel
The problem with a 'tool' is you never know what they have donr or not and how to recover.
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It's already very easy to root the Ultra if you're either on .681 or .757 (latest firmware). All you have to do is to flash a kernel and then SuperSU. 2 minutes.
The real issue is what we have to do BEFORE rooting. The TA backup is a pain in the ass, and if Sony would've dropped the whole DRM thing, all we'd have to do would be to unlock the bootloader and flash a kernel.
It's not possible to make a "one click" solution that includes TA backup, so there really isn't any better way of doing it today. It's very easy once you've backed up the TA partition, and you'll only ever do it once per device.
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blueether said:
As buzzy said, there really is no risk in hard bricking the zu unless you really are inept. The steps are easy once you understand them:
1. Downgrade to 532 ftf (read my sticky)
2. Root with Bin4ry's or [NUT]'s tool (see my or lordmanhattan's threads)
3. Back up TA (see lord's thread)
4. Flash latest FTF
5. Unlock BL and flash a rootable kernel
The problem with a 'tool' is you never know what they have donr or not and how to recover.
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Is that the order to do them in? Each step seems to be its own sticky thread.
LordManhattan said:
It's already very easy to root the Ultra if you're either on .681 or .757 (latest firmware). All you have to do is to flash a kernel and then SuperSU. 2 minutes.
The real issue is what we have to do BEFORE rooting. The TA backup is a pain in the ass, and if Sony would've dropped the whole DRM thing, all we'd have to do would be to unlock the bootloader and flash a kernel.
It's not possible to make a "one click" solution that includes TA backup, so there really isn't any better way of doing it today. It's very easy once you've backed up the TA partition, and you'll only ever do it once per device.
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Impossible? Why? Unless I read the thread wrong awhile back, it appears that the TA backup thread had a link to a program just for TA backup. It just didn't have everything else that is relatively easy. Why can't a one click root program be built as an extension of that program?
Are the DRM keys the same or unique for every device of a specific model? My husband and I each bought a C6806 directly from Sony's Play Store the very first day they went on sale.
Do I need to flash a kernel or even unlock the bootloader if I'd like to keep the stock OS?
polargirl said:
Is that the order to do them in? Each step seems to be its own sticky thread.
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Why would I post them out of order?
There is really only one sticky thread that is needed, Lordmanhattan's one. The one I wrote (for the first step) is also covered in LordManhattan's guide, just that if you read my thread you wont temporarily lose your imei no.
polargirl said:
Impossible? Why? Unless I read the thread wrong awhile back, it appears that the TA backup thread had a link to a program just for TA backup. It just didn't have everything else that is relatively easy. Why can't a one click root program be built as an extension of that program?
Are the DRM keys the same or unique for every device of a specific model? My husband and I each bought a C6806 directly from Sony's Play Store the very first day they went on sale.
Do I need to flash a kernel or even unlock the bootloader if I'd like to keep the stock OS?
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No it's not impossible, but remember that all the dev work is done for free, in our spare time, and more often than not to itch a scratch the "we" have.
Yes the DRM keys are unique to each device
No you dont need to unlock the bootloader if you only want root, but it will make life alot easier in the longrun as you will then be able to flash a kernel that has recovery and is simple to install root on. As our phones get more secure you will have to run a custom kernel and recovery to have root
blueether said:
Why would I post them out of order?
There is really only one sticky thread that is needed, Lordmanhattan's one. The one I wrote (for the first step) is also covered in LordManhattan's guide, just that if you read my thread you wont temporarily lose your imei no.
No it's not impossible, but remember that all the dev work is done for free, in our spare time, and more often than not to itch a scratch the "we" have.
Yes the DRM keys are unique to each device
No you dont need to unlock the bootloader if you only want root, but it will make life alot easier in the longrun as you will then be able to flash a kernel that has recovery and is simple to install root on. As our phones get more secure you will have to run a custom kernel and recovery to have root
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Please link me to that Lordmaahattan thread as he probably has quite a few.
I am quite happy and grateful that there are people like you guys who do this stuff even if it is just to "scratch the itch" and say "we have". I just wish some people would take the battle against the smartphone tyrants to a higher level as all. I have no right asking you guys to take it to a higher level but who else is more able and willing to do it? The need to render locking smartphones futile is a just and noble war.
Is there an Android equivalent to ghosting in Windows that copies everything on the phones' memory right down to the DRM keys or an other mirroring method? I'd feel a lot more comfortable making a clone image than just partial backups.
How can I tell if a TA backup is completely successful before I flash? I guess the Lordmanhattan thread should have info on how to relock and unroot?
polargirl said:
Please link me to that Lordmaahattan thread as he probably has quite a few.
I am quite happy and grateful that there are people like you guys who do this stuff even if it is just to "scratch the itch" and say "we have". I just wish some people would take the battle against the smartphone tyrants to a higher level as all. I have no right asking you guys to take it to a higher level but who else is more able and willing to do it? The need to render locking smartphones futile is a just and noble war.
Is there an Android equivalent to ghosting in Windows that copies everything on the phones' memory right down to the DRM keys or an other mirroring method? I'd feel a lot more comfortable making a clone image than just partial backups.
How can I tell if a TA backup is completely successful before I flash? I guess the Lordmanhattan thread should have info on how to relock and unroot?
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The definitive thread is this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904, quite complex to read, but simple when you understand it. The problem is that it caters for all, ie locked and unlocked, 4.2 to 4.4 etc
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593918 is how to first downgrade and keep the imei number, not strictly needed but might stop you from panicking when it vanishes.
I quite like the way sony do it, allowing you to unlock the bootloader from their dev site, although it does mean the loss of DRM keys.
You can back up the whole phone with dd (often called disk destroyer for how dangerous it can be), but you may need root first - never done it and I would not recommend doing it.
The TA partition is the only one that is really important to back up, and going back to 'factory' is as easy as using the same app to write the backup back then flashing a FTF
blueether said:
I quite like the way sony do it, allowing you to unlock the bootloader from their dev site, although it does mean the loss of DRM keys.
You can back up the whole phone with dd (often called disk destroyer for how dangerous it can be), but you may need root first - never done it and I would not recommend doing it.
The TA partition is the only one that is really important to back up, and going back to 'factory' is as easy as using the same app to write the backup back then flashing a FTF
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I can't say I agree. Although Sony has been generous with the unlocking process, I find myself wondering why it was necessary to lock it in the first place. Polargirl isn't off mark, I spent half a day in frustration (and losing my DRM keys) before I managed to unlock and root. Once I did of course it was sweet, but the path there was a bit perplexing (a myriad of threads here) and quite scary (what if I brick it because I misread one of the 9 different threads?).
That being said, I came from Note II which was a cakewalk - I might be a bit spoiled :cyclops:
Edit: Not to mention, my very first post here was because a rooting thread was obsolete so I, on LordManhattan's advice got in touch with the mods to have said thread un-stickied. This forum is in fact a bit of a mess.
polargirl said:
Is that the order to do them in? Each step seems to be its own sticky thread.
Impossible? Why? Unless I read the thread wrong awhile back, it appears that the TA backup thread had a link to a program just for TA backup. It just didn't have everything else that is relatively easy. Why can't a one click root program be built as an extension of that program?
Are the DRM keys the same or unique for every device of a specific model? My husband and I each bought a C6806 directly from Sony's Play Store the very first day they went on sale.
Do I need to flash a kernel or even unlock the bootloader if I'd like to keep the stock OS?
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Well okay then. Make a one-click solution that downgrades your device to a firmware that has the exploit that Bin4ry's root tool can root, then get a tool to backup the TA partition, while automatically granting it root access, and then unlock the bootloader without you having to enter your IMEI and unlock key, oh... and then update to the latest firmware and also automatically flash Jackie's kernel, boot into recovery, automatically flash SuperSU and reboot.
Not only would it potentially take several hours for the tool to finish, but it will never ever happen. Ever.
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Chima2 said:
I can't say I agree. Although Sony has been generous with the unlocking process, I find myself wondering why it was necessary to lock it in the first place. Polargirl isn't off mark, I spent half a day in frustration (and losing my DRM keys) before I managed to unlock and root. Once I did of course it was sweet, but the path there was a bit perplexing (a myriad of threads here) and quite scary (what if I brick it because I misread one of the 9 different threads?).
That being said, I came from Note II which was a cakewalk - I might be a bit spoiled :cyclops:
Edit: Not to mention, my very first post here was because a rooting thread was obsolete so I, on LordManhattan's advice got in touch with the mods to have said thread un-stickied. This forum is in fact a bit of a mess.
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Thank you for posting that you agree with me and for also seeing the problem: The instructions are indeed complex and chaotically spread out over nine different threads making it easy to miss a step.
LordManhattan said:
Well okay then. Make a one-click solution that downgrades your device to a firmware that has the exploit that Bin4ry's root tool can root, then get a tool to backup the TA partition, while automatically granting it root access, and then unlock the bootloader without you having to enter your IMEI and unlock key, oh... and then update to the latest firmware and also automatically flash Jackie's kernel, boot into recovery, automatically flash SuperSU and reboot.
Not only would it potentially take several hours for the tool to finish, but it will never ever happen. Ever.
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It doesn't have to be all (one click root) or nothing. Even partial simplification would help. Anything better than the several different steps over nine different threads that Chima2 was referring to would help. 3 or even 4 steps in one thread is better than the "solution" currently available.
polargirl said:
Thank you for posting that you agree with me and for also seeing the problem: The instructions are indeed complex and chaotically spread out over nine different threads making it easy to miss a step.
It doesn't have to be all (one click root) or nothing. Even partial simplification would help. Anything better than the several different steps over nine different threads that Chima2 was referring to would help. 3 or even 4 steps in one thread is better than the "solution" currently available.
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Buy a ZTE if you want hard
Why should I or Lordmanhattan (or anyone) rewrite what has already been written. I, at least, have written the steps out more times than I care to remember. The process is not that hard, and the steps are well documented in well written english
blueether said:
Buy a ZTE if you want hard
Why should I or Lordmanhattan (or anyone) rewrite what has already been written. I, at least, have written the steps out more times than I care to remember. The process is not that hard, and the steps are well documented in well written english
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Why? Because they aren't well written. They appear scattered and chaotic to everyone who isn't familiar with this site. Chima2 and I were just trying to give feedback is all. If more people just browsing for rooting solutions were to signup and post, they would probably agree as well. They just aren't here to give you even more feedback.
polargirl said:
Why? Because they aren't well written. They appear scattered and chaotic to everyone who isn't familiar with this site. Chima2 and I were just trying to give feedback is all. If more people just browsing for rooting solutions were to signup and post, they would probably agree as well. They just aren't here to give you even more feedback.
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It took me about a week of reading in my spare time to get my bearings and feel confident that I could start to modify my phone. That is a small amount of effort to put forth for a device that I plan to have for at least the next year. Yes it was a little confusing but I managed and am certainly not gifted when it comes to intelligence. I feel that any average person that sets their mind to it can succeed, and any specific questions will generally be answered if possible.
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It took me about a week of reading in my spare time to get my bearings and feel confident that I could start to modify my phone. That is a small amount of effort to put forth for a device that I plan to have for at least the next year. Yes it was a little confusing but I managed and am certainly not gifted when it comes to intelligence. I feel that any average person that sets their mind to it can succeed, and any specific questions will generally be answered if possible.
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Enough said! It might be worth it to you but probably not to most people.
polargirl said:
Enough said! It might be worth it to you but probably not to most people.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
polargirl said:
Enough said! It might be worth it to you but probably not to most people.
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If a week of reading is to much for some then that is good, they shouldn't root their phones.
When people have really 'simple' ways of doing things they tend to skip steps and blame people for it. When something seems hard and daunting they read carefully and completely before starting, then read step by step as they go.
Could the 9 stickies be updated to 1 thread with all information? Why yes they could, and if it is important to you that it be done the best solution would be to write the new thread yourself. It would be a great way to give back to the community. If you notice something you find wrong, and its in your power to fix it, then do so.
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_Dennis_ said:
If a week of reading is to much for some then that is good, they shouldn't root their phones.
When people have really 'simple' ways of doing things they tend to skip steps and blame people for it. When something seems hard and daunting they read carefully and completely before starting, then read step by step as they go.
Could the 9 stickies be updated to 1 thread with all information? Why yes they could, and if it is important to you that it be done the best solution would be to write the new thread yourself. It would be a great way to give back to the community. If you notice something you find wrong, and its in your power to fix it, then do so.
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That is quite the cynical statement you posted and apparently contrary to even the spirit of this site let alone development and hacking in general. A better good for society is rending the need to root futile should be the goal and easily within reach of this site's members.
Another newbie, zxc1251, has indeed did just that and I have been helping that member with instruction simplification.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769782
The only problem with that is newbies tend to be quite limited in their tech knowledge thus limited in their usefulness when it comes to simplifying instructions for the tech ignorant and semi-ignorant public but I guess some relatively tech ignorant people need to start this if a revolution against unrooted, jailed or otherwise restricted access phones is to happen.
I am trying my best with the knowledge and tools that I have to get this going.
polargirl said:
That is quite the cynical statement you posted and apparently contrary to even the spirit of this site let alone development and hacking in general. A better good for society is rending the need to root futile should be the goal and easily within reach of this site's members.
Another newbie, zxc1251, has indeed did just that and I have been helping that member with instruction simplification.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769782
The only problem with that is newbies tend to be quite limited in their tech knowledge thus limited in their usefulness when it comes to simplifying instructions for the tech ignorant and semi-ignorant public but I guess some relatively tech ignorant people need to start this if a revolution against unrooted, jailed or otherwise restricted access phones is to happen.
I am trying my best with the knowledge and tools that I have to get this going.
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The reason I had the 'do it yourself' attitude is all the information to make a new thread is there, just needed presentation, something tech geeks aren't well known for.
There should always be a need to root. Average use case for a phone, having security is important since you store a lot of sensitive information. If phones came rooted or came so rooting was extremely easy imagine how many people would loose their bank account info or their contact info to the not so nice side of the Internet.
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Let me use this analogy. If you wanted to change the transmission in you car would you
A) search the internet for 15 minutes and the open your hood and start disconnecting things or
B) Spend at least a few hours looking at the specifics for your car (if you've change a few transmissions before) or as long as it takes for you to feel comfortable you won't destroy your car?
If you wanted Linux on your laptop would to research the drivers, installation procedures, and distros first or just download the first one and hope you know how to install it?
All I'm saying in researching is not a bad thing, if more people did it, less would brick their phones.
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_Dennis_ said:
The reason I had the 'do it yourself' attitude is all the information to make a new thread is there, just needed presentation, something tech geeks aren't well known for.
There should always be a need to root. Average use case for a phone, having security is important since you store a lot of sensitive information. If phones came rooted or came so rooting was extremely easy imagine how many people would loose their bank account info or their contact info to the not so nice side of the Internet.
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Let me use this analogy. If you wanted to change the transmission in you car would you
A) search the internet for 15 minutes and the open your hood and start disconnecting things or
B) Spend at least a few hours looking at the specifics for your car (if you've change a few transmissions before) or as long as it takes for you to feel comfortable you won't destroy your car?
If you wanted Linux on your laptop would to research the drivers, installation procedures, and distros first or just download the first one and hope you know how to install it?
All I'm saying in researching is not a bad thing, if more people did it, less would brick their phones.
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PCs that ship with Windows serve the tech ignorant public just fine without restricting access for a common user. Developers is a whole different story when it comes to Windows but that is going off-topic.
I realize most geeks aren't comfortable with marketing and presentation issues with people like Erica Griffen (aka: Angel of Tech) being a huge exception. I don't have anywhere near her level of tech knowledge or even most members on this site but I am willing to help or even take over if needed. I just can't be of much help shortening process or making it more comfortable for the public but at least I haven't been totally useless.
Any help in shortening process or partially automating things wherever and whenever geeks can feel comfortable enough is not only appreciated by me but will be by the public as well.

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