Little story.....
I spent weeks and couple hundred dollars looking for a solution for the bootloader lock on my OTA 4.3 Verizon Note 2. i heard about the site called MobileTechVideos. I emailed and asked questions, Josh was very responsive and said they could do it. So i sent the phone to them....1 week later (today) I get a call from Josh saying all is well and I am downgraded successfully and it would ship out today. i can't say enough about MobileTechVideos, and their site is packed with info and videos. check them out!
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-bootloader-sboot-downgrade-service/
But Young Jedi...
onefast50 said:
Little story.....
I spent weeks and couple hundred dollars looking for a solution for the bootloader lock on my OTA 4.3 Verizon Note 2. i heard about the site called MobileTechVideos. I emailed and asked questions, Josh was very responsive and said they could do it. So i sent the phone to them....1 week later (today) I get a call from Josh saying all is well and I am downgraded successfully and it would ship out today. i can't say enough about MobileTechVideos, and their site is packed with info and videos. check them out!
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I have spent a vast amount of research and hands on technical work on downgrading
From: VRUEMJ9 4.3
To: VRALJB 4.1.1
And it possible. The problem isn't downgrading the ROM, it's the bootloader, it consistently stays at a 4.3 Bootloader while the ROM is at 4.1.1. Your post looks more like a promotion/advertisement, therefore I ask you OneFast50, can MobileTechVideos:
1) Downgrade the bootloader
2) Unlock the bootloader
3) Load a custom recovery (CWM, Philz, TWRP).......
4) Furthermore installing a custom rom?
If Josh at MobileTechVideos can accomplish all this, then Josh and his peeps are gurus and I will happily send them my phone, tuck my tail between my legs, and hats off to them! Taking it a step further, this is what fellow techies really want: If we could please get a technical post by [email protected] here on XDA describing the process that him and his team used to perform the four requirements above. This would be the most beneficial post that the rest of the Note II SCH-I605 4.3 community could really appreciate. Awaiting a follow up OneFast50
Yes that's the service they offer and obviously they aren't going to post how to do it or they would lose business
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We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
connexion2005 said:
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
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I believe the z3x and Easy JTAG can do this, but that's only if you can solder direct ISP, breadboard, and then hope there's no shorts and you didn't damage any tracers. Go with MobileTechVideos. I've heard nothing but excellent things about you guys.
connexion2005 said:
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
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Thanks again Josh
Joe
I would just like to CONFIRM with the first few posts that it can be done.
In addition to the above methods described:
1- Send It Away
2- eMMC
There are other ways as well. I have successfully downgraded the bootloader with a RIFF Box and weeks of communication with a friend in Turkey.
I am only posting this to let others know that there are other methods and that they shouldn't give up hope on someone unlocking it one day. I unfortunately cannot unlock the bootloader.
Any DEVS or Members that are actively working on unlocking the bootloader on a realistic level for the community (not for personal use or knowledge) can contact me through PM if they have any questions.
I will NOT be answering ANY questions in this thread. Sorry.
-h311sdr0id
h311sdr0id said:
I would just like to CONFIRM with the first few posts that it can be done.
In addition to the above methods described:
1- Send It Away
2- eMMC
There are other ways as well. I have successfully downgraded the bootloader with a RIFF Box and weeks of communication with a friend in Turkey.
I am only posting this to let others know that there are other methods and that they shouldn't give up hope on someone unlocking it one day. I unfortunately cannot unlock the bootloader.
Any DEVS or Members that are actively working on unlocking the bootloader on a realistic level for the community (not for personal use or knowledge) can contact me through PM if they have any questions.
I will NOT be answering ANY questions in this thread. Sorry.
-h311sdr0id
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ur alive its been a long time but honestly why cant we just dd the old bootloader? this isnt qualcomm and none of the new 4.3 firmware is attached to bootloader. the s3 has ties with aboot and sbl1 aka if u flash new firmware on old bootloader u brick or if u flash old firmware on new bootloader u brick(s3) the note2 isnt like that we can use full 4.3 firmware on 4.1 and vice versa.. unless its somehow tied to the pbl.. which i really have no idea about.
connexion2005 said:
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
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why do u need adams permission to give a more thorough post? isnt this your store? your method? i get the need to make money but seems kinda shady that him and lee stopped working on a new unlock and your now selling downgrades.. with his permission lol..
just my .02 this is xda its suposed to be a place to learn, help the community, teach these verizon/att trolls that locking down bootloaders isnt nice..
would have been nice to continue the saga
no you verizon - xda seriously ur done - we never give up verizon
Edit: i dont mean any disrespect to anyone here adam, lee, josh just the way i read the above post sounded kinda fishy
I understand what your saying. First off, I have zero affiliation with either of those developers. I made that post purely for other moderators to understand that I come in peace. There is such a fine line to walk on these forums when you have some sort of a profitable organization. I always make sure I'm within the bounds of the XDA rules and guidelines so I made that post to help make sure the thread was not closed. Adam in no way benefits from any of my work is 100% a man of the community for those that know him. Anyhow, I'm confident those guys are working on a DIY solution but the issue here is that currently, there simply is not one.
By the way I'm a fan of your work @BeansTown106!
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I understand what your saying. First off, I have zero affiliation with either of those developers. I made that post purely for other moderators to understand that I come in peace. There is such a fine line to walk on these forums when you have some sort of a profitable organization. I always make sure I'm within the bounds of the XDA rules and guidelines so I made that post to help make sure the thread was not closed. Adam in no way benefits from any of my work is 100% a man of the community for those that know him. Anyhow, I'm confident those guys are working on a DIY solution but the issue here is that currently, there simply is not one.
By the way I'm a fan of your work @BeansTown106!
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gotcha thanks josh, i didnt mean the above post in a disrespectful way towards either of you guys. was just curious, re reading it it might of sounded a little hostile but it was more of how i guess i read the other post. thanks for clearing up any confusion and ya i know adam is a good guy i have talked to him quite a bit in the past. hopefully him and lee are working on something DIY although last time i talked with adam he said the device is old now and he doesnt want to work on it anymore.. i guess time will tell.. i have been reversing casual and going through the peices/comparing to stock files etc. to see how it was originally done more so for personal knowledge and to see if i can replicate it at all but i doubt i will be succesful lol.. all i have to say is it was really unique how it was originally done
thanks for being a fan, i am as well, i have sent you a cpl devices in the past. iirc was a old gtab 2 and the s4 when me7 first hit. you do great work and i have always reccomended you!
I'd imagine it's as simple as erasing/re-provisioning the RPMB and either bypassing write protection on the eMMC or change it via EXT_CSD registers.
connexion2005 said:
I understand what your saying. First off, I have zero affiliation with either of those developers. I made that post purely for other moderators to understand that I come in peace. There is such a fine line to walk on these forums when you have some sort of a profitable organization. I always make sure I'm within the bounds of the XDA rules and guidelines so I made that post to help make sure the thread was not closed. Adam in no way benefits from any of my work is 100% a man of the community for those that know him. Anyhow, I'm confident those guys are working on a DIY solution but the issue here is that currently, there simply is not one.
By the way I'm a fan of your work @BeansTown106!
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Maybe it would be in our interest or this forum interest to direct are attention to this method..
Not sure how far he has come/got working.. Even though it is not a total unlock, it is a viable solution
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Viva La MobileTEchVideos!
I can vouch for MobileTechVideos too. Best cash I spent to get a bricked phone back with the right bootloader on it. Very responsive and professional. Thanks Josh.
guitari said:
I have spent a vast amount of research and hands on technical work on downgrading
From: VRUEMJ9 4.3
To: VRALJB 4.1.1
And it possible. The problem isn't downgrading the ROM, it's the bootloader, it consistently stays at a 4.3 Bootloader while the ROM is at 4.1.1. Your post looks more like a promotion/advertisement, therefore I ask you OneFast50, can MobileTechVideos:
1) Downgrade the bootloader
2) Unlock the bootloader
3) Load a custom recovery (CWM, Philz, TWRP).......
4) Furthermore installing a custom rom?
If Josh at MobileTechVideos can accomplish all this, then Josh and his peeps are gurus and I will happily send them my phone, tuck my tail between my legs, and hats off to them! Taking it a step further, this is what fellow techies really want: If we could please get a technical post by [email protected] here on XDA describing the process that him and his team used to perform the four requirements above. This would be the most beneficial post that the rest of the Note II SCH-I605 4.3 community could really appreciate. Awaiting a follow up OneFast50
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h311sdr0id said:
I would just like to CONFIRM with the first few posts that it can be done.
In addition to the above methods described:
1- Send It Away
2- eMMC
There are other ways as well. I have successfully downgraded the bootloader with a RIFF Box and weeks of communication with a friend in Turkey.
I am only posting this to let others know that there are other methods and that they shouldn't give up hope on someone unlocking it one day. I unfortunately cannot unlock the bootloader.
Any DEVS or Members that are actively working on unlocking the bootloader on a realistic level for the community (not for personal use or knowledge) can contact me through PM if they have any questions.
I will NOT be answering ANY questions in this thread. Sorry.
-h311sdr0id
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I don't think it would be too much to ask for proof of this? Or at least comment in the S4 Jtag downgrade thread or bootloader thread? Why not help the community out? And if your not answering questions in this thread then what thread would you direct me to in which you will answer questions? Of course you can PM the answers too if you wish.
Ya so were I send my phone 2 & how much? I clicked the link and it was dead
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Link works... $75.00,
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lacoursiere18 said:
Maybe it would be in our interest or this forum interest to direct are attention to this method..
Not sure how far he has come/got working.. Even though it is not a total unlock, it is a viable solution
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
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Apaco said:
I can vouch for MobileTechVideos too. Best cash I spent to get a bricked phone back with the right bootloader on it. Very responsive and professional. Thanks Josh.
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Surge1223 said:
I don't think it would be too much to ask for proof of this? Or at least comment in the S4 Jtag downgrade thread or bootloader thread? Why not help the community out? And if your not answering questions in this thread then what thread would you direct me to in which you will answer questions? Of course you can PM the answers too if you wish.
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kkemp31 said:
Ya so were I send my phone 2 & how much? I clicked the link and it was dead
Sent from my SCH-I605 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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manbat said:
Link works... $75.00,
Sent from my SCH-I605 / Galaxy Note 2 / JB 4.3 / Unlocked, Rooted, ROMed and ANGi-ed !!... using Tapatalk v 2.4.13
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Listen guys, if you want to know the truth, h311sdr0id is still "not available" at the moment. I am currently taking care of all his forum accounts, websites, and emails u til he is back. I have to print out all these things every 2 days, and then send them to him in the mail.
Whatever he was working on (around the time of this post) is part of the reason he is gone now . If you don't know what I mean by that, then I don't know what to tell you.
I cannot do anything for you at this time. I just learned how to change my ring tone yesterday... You see what I mean...
PLEASE PM HIM!!!!
I send him all his PMs and he loves to hear from you guys.
I will try and post replies to his PMs every week. So of you have a question, go ahead and PM his account.
He should be back soon.... I hope.
Mrs. h311sdr0id
How many different model phones are you gonna start a thread stating you can downgrade bootloader versions? You post with no information or proof. Then you say "that's all I'm gonna say about it" or you state its through JTAG or a riff box. Then you request that the thread gets closed.
Close this one too and move along.
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michigan66 said:
How many different model phones are you gonna start a thread stating you can downgrade bootloader versions? You post with no information or proof. Then you say "that's all I'm gonna say about it" or you state its through JTAG or a riff box. Then you request that the thread gets closed.
Close this one too and move along.
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Agreed. On S4 and older, there's only ONE way to legitimately downgrade. That's to do a MoviNAND format + reset so the rollback protection bytes are wiped from the RPMB. You must do this via Direct eMMC ISP. It certainly is possible via JTAG, but I HIGHLY doubt he had the resources or information to do so, unless it was stolen, in which case he's in jail for it.
connexion2005 said:
We are the only source I am aware of for offering this downgrade. When you get your device back, it will arrive with stock 4.1.2 firmware, unlocked bootloader, root access and custom recovery. Everything you need for a custom rom flashing experience. 4.3 update got ya down? Get back your innocence by downgrading!
Technical aspects: This is NOT a DIY method as it involves removing and reprogramming the eMMC chip from the main board. Essentially, we are removing the eMMC, uploading and the old bootloader with a proprietary programmer and then reinstalling the chip. I have received permission from Adam Outler to give a more thorough post about this procedure. The service is also live and can be found on our store (just Google us).
-Josh
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Hey Josh sent a pm could you please reply. Thanks
Related
Roughly a year ago I got my Sprint EVO 3D. As soon as the first *successful* root procedure was posted I followed it to root my phone. Nearly a year later I have had ZERO issues with my phone/service until about 2 weeks ago. My data speed is nearly non existent. My wife has the same phone with same root. Using the speedtest.net app "HER" phone will get 4 megs download. Mine.....0.12.
I called Sprint and they said they can find nothing on there end to indicate a problem. That it has to be a problem with my phone and I am to take it in and have it checked out. Obviously I can't take it in rooted. I am seeking help/advice to unroot my phone. I feel confident that I can do it, but am confused as to which procedure to use as I cannot remember the name of the root. To re-clarify, I used the FIRST working root that was ever posted.
Any/all help is GREATLY appreciated. I would like to apologize if this is posted in the wrong area. I mean no harm, no foul.
This should have been asked in Q&A. You have to download the ruu and relock your bootloader.
I am so sorry for the wrong area. Should I delete the thread and repost over there? Also do you have a link or push in the right direction to get the PROPER ruu?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20233529&postcount=1
Or do a Google search. Good luck.
Thank you so so so much (thanks button clicked on both your replies). When I first rooted my phone I was like "yes I did it". Now I feel like such a noob.
After some searching and trying my best to remember the root I used I believe I have found it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192245
Will the information you gave to me UNroot THIS particular root method?
Warlockmatized said:
After some searching and trying my best to remember the root I used I believe I have found it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192245
Will the information you gave to me UNroot THIS particular root method?
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Yes it will unroot. Read through the post to link I gave you.
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IF YOU DID NOT CREATE SOMETHING THEN DO NOT CREATE A THREAD IN THE
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Again I apologize for my mis-threading. I sincerely meant no harm.
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...I called Sprint and they said ... Obviously I can't take it in rooted....
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Why not? According to internal documents, Sprint requires their employees to treat rooted users equally as unrooted. From everything I've read, no one has had problems taking rooted phones in (especially recently). Of course, YMMV.
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
Warlockmatized said:
Again I apologize for my mis-threading. I sincerely meant no harm.
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Lesson learned man, no sweat a mod moved it for you. Any luck?
I never said Sprint said I couldn't take it in rooted. I am just trying to be thorough is all. The way my luck runs, had I posted I took a rooted phone in for servicing and was told I was screwed because it was rooted it would have been an absolute flame fest of replies LoL
At least this way I know. I can feel confident in what I am doing instead of going at it blind.
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I never said Sprint said I couldn't take it in rooted. I am just trying to be thorough is all. The way my luck runs, had I posted I took a rooted phone in for servicing and was told I was screwed because it was rooted it would have been an absolute flame fest of replies LoL
At least this way I know. I can feel confident in what I am doing instead of going at it blind.
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I understand that. Better to be safe than sorry.
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
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Thanks for the info. This seemed to help. I found a local shop through a friend that doesn't care if you are rooted or not. Still am going to try to unroot as it is just nice to know these things.
I have not got around to unrooting just yet. I have been extremely busy. Rest assured I will post as soon as I do (am hoping I can on the 4th) attempt it and share my results.
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Thanks for the info. This seemed to help. I found a local shop through a friend that doesn't care if you are rooted or not. Still am going to try to unroot as it is just nice to know these things.
I have not got around to unrooting just yet. I have been extremely busy. Rest assured I will post as soon as I do (am hoping I can on the 4th) attempt it and share my results.
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No prob. Glad it did, definitely post when your able to.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
SORRY it has taken so long to reply. I have been dealing with some health issues. YES thanks to a a guide I found elsewhere I was able to unroot the revolutionary method I first used. Took my phone to Sprint today and they found several issues with it and ordered me a new one. Thanks so much everyone for all the help
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE HELP!
i have a VERIZON NOTE 2 and used exynos abuse to root, i DO NOT have the bootloader unlocked, and have done UNROOT via Exynos abuse and still show status "modified" HOW DO I FIX because i have lost my 4G service and customer NO-service couldnt fix it , i need to take it back to VZW tommorrow and all the threads on here seem to be retarded clutter outdated garbage nerdspeak babble SO any UPDATED ways of removing the "modified" status, (i know that this stupid site likes to leave questions unanswered for a lonnnng time. and after the hours of frustrating searching on this "seems" to be useless site i need help.. i probably posted in wrong spot or something but i dont care HELPPPPPP... PLEASE DONT GIVE ME SOME BS JUST HELP PLEASEEE. TRIANGLE AWAY ONLY WORKS ON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER AND I HAVE VERIZON AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING..
It's ill advised to speak disparragingly about the very people you petition for help.
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Wrong forum
First please read XDA rules #1 & #15. There is a Q&A both here and in the device forum where I quickly searched and found this post on how to restore your phone to stock.
Your phones forum is really the best place to ask such a specific question. Ranting in the General Discussion/General section will only get you generalities.
good luck with your phone. Ya shulda boughta SONY
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droidstyle said:
Here is a guide I have put together for the VZW Samsung SCH-I605 Galaxy Note II
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This guide contains 5 sections:
Section 1: How to Root/ Return to Stock 4.1.1 Jelly Bean coming from any rom with Odin
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Section 1b: How to return to stock 4.1.1 Jelly Bean coming from any rom with Odin
Step 1: Download and install Odin3 from section 1a if you have not already done so.
Step 2: Download this stock VRALJB image and pit file to a windows based pc.
Folks that have accepted the L4 OTA can not use the VRALJB image at this time...for now use Root66 from section 1a.
Official VRALJB 4.1.1 12/9/12- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264(This will wipe data and return your device to factory stock like the day you purchased the device. Also Unlocked and Locked devices may use this to return to Factory Stock conditions!)
SCH-I605_16gb.Pit- http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?05cj895zu3tls7z
Step 3: Power device off, hold the volume down/home/power keys until you see a yellow triangle, then press the volume up key to access "odin or download mode".
Step 4: Open Odin and connect the oem usb cable from pc to device. The driver should automatically install( it did for me on windows 7 64bit). There should also be a "comport number" in upper left hand corner of Odin indicating communication between the pc & device.
Step 5: Click on the pit function of Odin and select the sch-i605-16gb.pit file.
Step 6: Click on the PDA function of Odin. Select the stock VRALJB image you downloaded in step 1, then select start. This operation should take less than 8 minutes before Odin will say pass/reset.
Step 7: Your device should boot back up into factory stock 4.1.1 android!
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Lol. Odin back to stock. Looks like you should try to understand what retarded clutter outdated garbage nerdspeak babble you're doing to your phone before you go ahead and do it. Have fun with Verizon tomorrow, I'm sure they'll be thrilled to accommodate you.
lpowilliams said:
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE HELP!
i have a VERIZON NOTE 2 and used exynos abuse to root, i DO NOT have the bootloader unlocked, and have done UNROOT via Exynos abuse and still show status "modified" HOW DO I FIX because i have lost my 4G service and customer NO-service couldnt fix it , i need to take it back to VZW tommorrow and all the threads on here seem to be retarded clutter outdated garbage nerdspeak babble SO any UPDATED ways of removing the "modified" status, (i know that this stupid site likes to leave questions unanswered for a lonnnng time. and after the hours of frustrating searching on this "seems" to be useless site i need help.. i probably posted in wrong spot or something but i dont care HELPPPPPP... PLEASE DONT GIVE ME SOME BS JUST HELP PLEASEEE. TRIANGLE AWAY ONLY WORKS ON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER AND I HAVE VERIZON AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING..
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Now that's funny
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lpowilliams said:
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE HELP!
i have a VERIZON NOTE 2 and used exynos abuse to root, i DO NOT have the bootloader unlocked, and have done UNROOT via Exynos abuse and still show status "modified" HOW DO I FIX because i have lost my 4G service and customer NO-service couldnt fix it , i need to take it back to VZW tommorrow and all the threads on here seem to be retarded clutter outdated garbage nerdspeak babble SO any UPDATED ways of removing the "modified" status, (i know that this stupid site likes to leave questions unanswered for a lonnnng time. and after the hours of frustrating searching on this "seems" to be useless site i need help.. i probably posted in wrong spot or something but i dont care HELPPPPPP... PLEASE DONT GIVE ME SOME BS JUST HELP PLEASEEE. TRIANGLE AWAY ONLY WORKS ON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER AND I HAVE VERIZON AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING..
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Wow.
seriously?
Nice informative thread title as well....
lpowilliams said:
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RECEIVE HELP!
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Looks like it took about 3 hours and that's in the middle of the night!! Seem pretty good to me.
LET'S SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO SAY THANKS!!!
Help me you A-HOLES! :laugh:
tgyberg said:
Help me you A-HOLES! :laugh:
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Heh seems like he coulda saved two minutes of typen just by sayen that since thats basically what he said lol
No problem man. I'll help you since these other guys are jerks. I know how it feels. Go here with your creditcard and all your problems will be solved. http://www.apple.com/iphone/
blackbass595 said:
No problem man. I'll help you since these other guys are jerks. I know how it feels. Go here with your creditcard and all your problems will be solved. http://www.apple.com/iphone/
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That is a good place for someone to place an order for spoon fed customer support.
I have already provided a solution found in his devices forum.
As there has been no update on progress I figured the issue was resolved.
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archa1c said:
It's ill advised to speak disparragingly about the very people you petition for help.
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Judging from the original post, I think you used too many 10 dollar words. Lol
thanks for the help ya A-holes lol greatly appreciated
UPDATE: first: sorry about the A-holeness, lol i had dealt with verizon on the phone for WAY TOO LONG! and you know how that feels
:beating-head-against-the-wall
and for the life of me could not find a solution to fix the issue
Second, i was able to return to "normal" status, apparently the google wallet hack was the problem, but still had no 4G, they replaced the simcard which fixed it and also somehow changed the status back to "modified" ??? then an hour later the phone went into a boot loop vzw said they would send me a "certified like -new" phone, still not sure if i should just accept the "like-new" or keep my original (now working because i flashed it back to stock with some guide that some A-Hole posted )
flash back to stock and forget this website ever existed. you're only going to hurt yourself further if you keep trying.
Wow this is the garbage replies I was referring too. You obviously cant read.i did flash back to stock and why would I forget this site. Ive been here wayy longer than you. And why dont you keep your useless comments to your self. Why would you run your d-sucker to provoke someone. I posted my apology but not to you.
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Wow this is the garbage replies I was referring too. You obviously cant read.i did flash back to stock and why would I forget this site. Ive been here wayy longer than you. And why dont you keep your useless comments to your self. Why would you run your d-sucker to provoke someone. I posted my apology but not to you.
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He probably read your first post and quit reading since you were an @ss, that's why I and most others here didn't help you. If you would have just asked instead of insulting everyone here you would have got a link to a back to stock thread, and if you had anymore specific questions you would have been helped. Judging by this response you weren't just annoyed at the time, your just an @ss who has no idea what he's doing, and Iphone would be perfect for you, it's idiot proof.
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UPDATE: first: sorry about the A-holeness, they would send me a "certified like -new" phone, still not sure if i should just accept the "like-new" or keep my original (now working because i flashed it back to stock with some guide that some A-Hole posted )
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Glad you recovered your phone.
If it was me I would keep the one you know works. Let Verizon send the second hand phone to someone else.
Just remember that opinions are like a§§holes, everyone has both.
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2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
lpowilliams said:
UPDATE: first: sorry about the A-holeness, lol i had dealt with verizon on the phone for WAY TOO LONG! and you know how that feels
:beating-head-against-the-wall
and for the life of me could not find a solution to fix the issue
Second, i was able to return to "normal" status, apparently the google wallet hack was the problem, but still had no 4G, they replaced the simcard which fixed it and also somehow changed the status back to "modified" ??? then an hour later the phone went into a boot loop vzw said they would send me a "certified like -new" phone, still not sure if i should just accept the "like-new" or keep my original (now working because i flashed it back to stock with some guide that some A-Hole posted )
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Google wallet hack has nothing to do with triangle notification and 4G signal being dropped. You probably rooted wrong. If I were you, I'll just keep my original note2 and figure out to clear the mess. There is always solution to this and every methods are currently workable.
Ahaha now he's threatening me over pm's. This is wonderful. Listen champ, dickhead posts are going to get dickhead replies. Absolutely nobody, here or anywhere else in the world, is going to pander a friendly response after you insult them while begging favors. Learn this now while you still can, you're going to have a very unhappy life if you can't learn how to cooperate.
For comedy
lpowilliams said:
Go **** yourself you ****ing troll. Maybe try getting off the computer every once and awhile. Maybe try getting a real woman instead of ****ing your couch. Unlike you.i dont care about getting banned. I have a life.
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Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
k9time said:
This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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This is the best thread to learn about what's what and how to's!
Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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This has got to be the easiest method of rooting. It's what I've used on a few different phones and has never failed me!
Custom roms vary in stability. If they are based on source code they are going to be more stable than others. They will say "built from official source". Other roms can be just as stable depending on the developer and how much effort was put into the rom. You have to read the threads on the roms to compare issues if any, then pick the one you want to try.
The best advice I can give you is before you install or flash anything you verify it's for your device, and read the instructions at LEAST twice!
Welcome to xda ... I suggest you first read the xda rules. This is the general forum. Not for questions. There is a Q &A forum to ask questions in ... After searching.
That said ... Super everything thread is for you.
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Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
Agoattamer said:
That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
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Whoa, that's freakin bizarre that it does an auto reinstall of the stock recovery. very creative.
Wow, Thanks to everybody who got involved. I didn't know that I had this many replies, I just got a notification for the first reply. Thanks a lot.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread since I having the same concern, and before I get flamed. Please let me know which approach would be suitable to ask more questions while staying on topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
lousk said:
Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread, having the same concern, and before I get flamed at, I just want to be certain I'm not hijacking this thread. Before starting a new thread having the same concern, please let me know which way would be suitable to ask more questions on the same topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
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Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
sumchans said:
Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
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You can always copy/paste the link and remove the www. and .com then someone with more posts can repost it for ya.
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
sumchans said:
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
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No problem
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
440bro said:
No problem
Thanks again 440bro.
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Thank you so much for your replies and links.
I'll follow up and let you know of the outcome or if I have additional question(s).
You guys are great!
Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
asubiyyal said:
Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
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Click on your phone info.
Write down the last 3 digits if your build version.
If it is MJ7 enjoy your Samsung iphone or take the risk of Chinese infiltration with vroot.
If its anything else, type go to GOOGLE.COM and type in those 3 letters followed by the word "Root".
Good luck!
Doesn't get much simpler than that.. :sly:
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
asubiyyal said:
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
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You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
k1mu said:
You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
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Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
I have MJ7 also and I've looked at root alternatives and it's risky at best. Let me know if you find a less risky way.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
asubiyyal said:
Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
k1mu said:
The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
asubiyyal said:
Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
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Perhaps you could post on one of the T-Mobile threads here and explain what "doesn't work" means, as they may be able to help you.
Non-Verizon SIMs work for me, but I'm not using a SIM from some other US carrier.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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Sorry if you thinking this is "trolling by a veteran user".
First, you need to understand: the i545 is not SIM locked. Any SIM will work.
However, there's some question as to whether or not that SIM will allow other US carriers to work. Mine works with a SIM that gives me AT&T data. (It's from a European carrier.)
Here's how you can answer your question. First, look at the top of this window.
There's a box on the top reading "Search this forum".
I entered "tmobile" there, then got the following threads:
Tmobile sim and samsung galaxy s4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397984
Does the new MJ7 firmware update block GSM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523307
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
T-Mobile HSPA(+) on SCH-I545 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478411
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
[Q]OOC Verizon S4 on Tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331131
Okay I have a vzw galaxy s4 working in tmobile http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457568
Then, searches for "T-mobile":
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
[Q] T-Mobile on VZW S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464730
VZW Galaxy S4 can it be use on tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447312&highlight=t-mobile
Probably very useful:
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
Using any one of those will connect you with people trying to use their Verizon phones on T-Mobile.
rshipa 1313
Haha nice work you guys. I will try and then post in couple of days about the above solutions/links you all have given. Thanks again!
joshm.1219 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
Yes it can be done. Basic strps are to get a
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Sorry. Hit send too early..
Basic steps are to get a sim.
Then go and see if it picked ip the APN settings. If not you should be able to create a new APN and put in the values manually. Search on xda for the values
Finally. Theres a thread in xda that explains how to download a phone info app. Which will allow you to set the phone radio to LTE/GSM.
last thing you want to check is that you can do wifi, sms, mms, voice mail, etc.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
asubiyyal said:
I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
I really can't explain the purpose of this site any better than this post by Kyphur:
"I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
joshm.1219 said:
A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
EDIT: P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working. Or maybe I ddnt search the right sections. I'll do XDA search through Google now
asubiyyal said:
I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working.
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I didn't think you were being a rude, but I just thought I would share with you post that explains the purpose of XDA very well. It might seem harsh because it's out of context & was originally directed at some a$$hole.
We were all newbs here, I'm no programmer I just like learning code because I like learning how all of this stuff works. I'm glad you want to start learning to. All I did in the beginning was google search "rooting" and a bunch of write-ups & video's came up that taught me a lot.
I think this all falls under off topic this is really not the place for senior members to try b!+ch slap junior members, staying on topic is how this site operates
Hello all,
This is my first post here at XDA!
So Ive searched so please forgive me as I'm still learning quite a bit.. But having an MK2 GS4 - why am I only limited to using Safestrap and limited ROMS? Currently running Hyperdrive which is great, but found my S3 w/ IllusionRom to be MUCH more customizable and clean.
Again, I'm newer to rooting but why is it that everything seems limited right now? After reading and reading, it appears that developers are sort of dancing around voiding warranty and Knox software.. Will this be resolved at some point? I basically want to have the ability to flash some of these other cool aosp roms, etc. I could care less about voiding warranty's. I want all this stock rom warranty crap off my phone!
Thanks guys!
I'm not a developer, but it is my understanding that an unlocked boot loader is needed for the type of ROMs you want to flash. And the S4's bootloader is locked for every version other than MDK.
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Questions belong in Q and A, and users are expected to use search and read before posting duplicate threads...
here is some help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613161
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570151
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49493081&postcount=6
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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Don't really know how you can expect an answer to your questions. I don't know of anyone on these boards that can see into the future. Will MK2 be unlocked? Doesn't look like it, but who knows. All you can do is keep an eye on the forums and hope for the best.
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rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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This question you are asking has had countless threads and posts devote to the locked bootloader on the S4 since the release of ME7 firmware. Not to get cheesey here but asking if the bootloader willl be unlocked is a ridiculous as no one has an answer to that and dozens of devs have been working on it for months on their spare time. The only mechanism available is safestrap and we are lucky to have that working for us becasue sooner or later that will most likley be blocked down the road. If you want an honest answer, in my view, we probably will not have a bootloader exploit comparable to the one found for MDK. Devs are working on a Kerec exploit but haven't been able to find one yet. Samsung and other cell phone manuf are responding to the Carriers requirements of having an unhackable phones because the enterprise customers are making that a requirement. The hacking community is a factional component of sales and if you want a phone for running custom ROMS, best save your money and get a DEV phone as that is the most likely way to do it.
rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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I have high hopes that some talented person or group will eventually find a work around for this boot loader issue whether safestrap(hashcode) figure out a kexec exploit. Or another Loki type exploit is found. The most current thread on this situation can be found in general and surge1223 is the op. But your right from a custom ROM standpoint the s3 is in a better position. Good luck.
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Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
rmartin346 said:
Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
rmartin346 said:
Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
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Hit up Swappa like I did and grab a MDK S4 and wait for it to come like a Lil kid at Christmas....
Which is what I'm doing. Or jump ship over to like... Sprint and trip your Knox flag and install CWM.
Or... Rob a bank so you can afford a dev edition S4.
Swappa it is..
Lol
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