OK to use USE 3.0 speeds if I understand this, you need:
- a USB 3.0 port on your computer
- a USB 3.0 cable
As far as I know, you do NOT need a 'USB 3.0 device'. So we could transfer data faster on our Xperias using the above? I'm about to get a new laptop and will definitely aim for USB 3.0 if this is correct. Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-3-0-8-Pi...USB_Cables&hash=item2eae4dca6e#ht_2370wt_1270
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OK to use USE 3.0 speeds if I understand this, you need:
- a USB 3.0 port on your computer
- a USB 3.0 cable
As far as I know, you do NOT need a 'USB 3.0 device'. So we could transfer data faster on our Xperias using the above? I'm about to get a new laptop and will definitely aim for USB 3.0 if this is correct. Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-3-0-8-Pi...USB_Cables&hash=item2eae4dca6e#ht_2370wt_1270
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USB 3 DOES require a USB 3 compatible device... i.e. USB 3 compatible devices on both ends...
Ah this is annoying, the first place I read it said you don't need a 3.0 device, the second place I read it said it works as fast as the slowest device - which could be 2.0. Info. is a little sparse on this, isn't it? But it's been in for a few years. Is it really worth getting 3.0 if adoption is so slow?
No, because our devices have only microUSB v2.0, so we can only have the speed of USB 2.0.
You can try, but you won't get more speed out of it.
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Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g. ]
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You can use usb2.0 cable without problems, USB3.0 standard is backwards compatible with usb 2.0. You should probably get faster charge times with USB3.0 because of higher rated mA on ports...
I like the sound of that!
I have heard of many problems with USB 2 devices in 3 ports. Driver issues apparently.
I look forward to phones which support USB 3 because that's now a missing link the chain - the computers selling now have the ports. I was a bit doubtful of the 'real' benefits of the speed (I was quite young when USB 2 came in) but my God, it is fantastic. I backup my hard drive frequently and I am amazed at the speed every time. :laugh:
Hi,
the only problem you can have by using USB3.0 port for your smartphone, it's a driver problem.
For the speed of transfert, you need USB3 port, USB3 cable and... USB3 device .
The connector of USB3 (device side) is different from USB2 and I never saw USB3 cable with micro port (used on our smartphone).
It's a shame, I can't wait for USB 3.0 phones! I didn't care much about until I got my first USB 3.0 hard drive...wow
but why need usb 3.0?
the best would be a class 10 sdcard -- so writing files into the phone's memory card is faster.
10 sd will be enough
Yep ultimately I would prefer to use a phone's flash memory. I've experimented with music library management on Android but I for my next option I think I'd go with an iOS device.
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Hello I got a USB gender change: A-Female to A-Female so that i could connect a self powered USB Hub to my Archos.
So far i have connected a self power Hard Disk directly into my Archos 70.
Didn't pick it up.
A mouse in the USB Hub.
Didn't pick it up.
A pen drive directly.
Didn't pick it up.
Is the Archos 70 locked down or does the USB Micro B connector they have on the Archos 70 work different?
I thought USB was a universal connector!
... one thing you have to realize is the device needs drivers to work those devices. you just cannot flip flop the connector and expect everything to work. tipically unless the device has a INPUT port which is a standard usb port not a micro or mini 5 or an old 1.1 usb connector it wont work.
Alot of those hongkong micro a to b converters are rubbish.
The nokia has been reported to work.
You need a USB "HOST" Cable, it contains a chip that puts your devices on "master" mode.
The Nokia and Archos one work, for the others don't expect them to work at all if they do not mention to be USB "HOST" cables !
BTW, the feedback is not very good, seems that it can deliver only 200mA, so if you want to plug an external disk drive, make sure you have a power supply on it before
Also some USB keys need more than 200mA so they won't mount at all :/
I found this: http://www.kjell.com/content/templa...9&path=97000000,119000000,149500000,151500000
Translation: Used by for example mobile phones with USB host (it's own built in USB controller).
Is the USB "HOST" Cable the same as this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
foh1981 said:
I found this: http://www.kjell.com/content/templa...9&path=97000000,119000000,149500000,151500000
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That cable doesn't look correct.
[correction - that cable at kjell looks correct for hooking two USB On-The-Go devices together. So if you wanted to hook your Archos to another Archos or to a blackberry.]
Look for a micro usb Nokia n810 host cable. Or "Micro USB Host OTG". They seem widely available in the us on eBay
Usually they have the micro USB male connector and a full size female connector on the other. Be careful because some are mini USB, you want micro USB
Look on the us eBay for a picture.
Here is a pretty good picture also - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51045 several people have confirmed this one works.
Yeah, the connector is obviously wrong on that one. I was mostly curios about whether this USB HOST cable was the same as an OTG.
That's the only cable of OTG type that I've seen in any retail store in Sweden (although I haven't been looking for it until now), so I was thinking of maybe getting it in the store and then get an adapter for the connector. But since there's a special pinning on these cables (as I understand from the Wikipedia article) maybe that doesn't work?
I'll probably go for the Nokia cable anyway, just to be sure, should be able to find it in a retail store somewhere...
fzelle said:
Alot of those hongkong micro a to b converters are rubbish.
The nokia has been reported to work.
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the nokia one doesn't work for me
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250770684805#ht_3877wt_798
by Seller info
business2828 ( 5107)
$5 now, I paid $8 (figures)
this works fine on my 32IT. I can use my microSD adapter, camera, powered hard drive, multi-card reader with SD cards and USB mouse. Other people have said they can't get USB host to work at all, even with this cable, but it works for me.
USB mouse works ok.
But it`s not enought power for 3G USB dongles.... Печалька.
Nokia ones works ok
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/genuine-nokia-ca-157-micro-usb-otg-to-usb-data-cable-14cm-length-51045
hi:
i think i will try to get hptp from ebay.
i see that it doesnt have usb for flash drive..
assuming that if connected to a dongle, it will read/write to flash drives,
which adapter should i search for.. mini male (for tp) > usb (flashdrive)?
thanx
I have read a thread on the usb host mode for the TP (can't remember which of the 8 forums I am on) that the micro usb port WILL support host mode BUT you will need a "Y" cable to provide power at the same time. Do a search for "host mode " on the TP forums and check it out. I have not attempted it so far as I have not found the correct "Y" cable mentioned in the thread.
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green said:
There is fully functional USB Host support, you don't even need to do any SW modification, everything is supported out of the box with one caveat, you need external power.
Support for keyboard, mice, harddrives and cameras is fully built in the default WebOS software.
I guess HP planned to sell their own USB attachments, iPad-style.
The only thing you need is USB OTG cable. Like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-micro-U...781644?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19c7d49acc
Basically just search for "USB OTG cable" on ebay, costs about $3. And USB Y-cable. The only two things you need are OTG microUSB cable and USB Y cable to provide external power.
I am still looking into possibility of self-powered usb host mode, with all the support HP built in for it it almost sounds like a given there must be a way to enable it one way or another. Unfortunately chipset documentation is almost nonexistent.
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well i got hptp today..
the ebay link USB OTG cable for was great..
the y cable search was confusing:: i do not know which kind to look for plus.. i dont see how to use this thing.. how does it get power.. i spose the USB OTG cable plugs into one of the "y" but im lost really...
i appreciate all responses..
thanx
What i've bought:
OTG: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...070399?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0e501abf
USB Female to Female: http://www.ebay.com/itm/280732594049?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Y cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/120626863147?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
External battery with USB: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2400ma...a-cable-for-htc-desire-g5-samsung-i9000-57905
What i've got: unusable pile of crap. The whole system can power up a mouse or gamepad, or external HDD (which is need to be powered from wall socket in addition to TP) but it's much worse with anything else: 16gb flash stick - lights up, but not enough power to read data, USB card reader don't even lights up. And situation with powering from PC USB (instead of ext. battery) is the same.
Anyway, even if the whole system would work, i doubt that you would take all those cables with you wherever you go, so it's useless.
i watched the russian vid..
hassle w/ capital H
little to zero hope of this gonna ever work
thanx for replies
Hello,
The XZ1 has a USB 3.1 C Connector right? Therefore it is capable of 5 Gbit/s (or 10?).
Within Windows 10 the tethered connection (Remote NDIS Compatible Device) is shown as a 425,9 Mbit/s Connection (Connected to a USB 3.0 ). Thats the same speed I am getting from a USB 2.0 Device.
Did I do or understand something wrong?
Thank you!
celeron1 said:
Hello,
The XZ1 has a USB 3.1 C Connector right? Therefore it is capable of 5 Gbit/s (or 10?).
Within Windows 10 the tethered connection (Remote NDIS Compatible Device) is shown as a 425,9 Mbit/s Connection (Connected to a USB 3.0 ). Thats the same speed I am getting from a USB 2.0 Device.
Did I do or understand something wrong?
Thank you!
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While it's got the Type-C USB connector, it is not clear if the port actually supports USB3.0 or higher.
The chipset is capable of that, but not sure about Sony's implementation.
I haven't yet tried to find out due to my lack of Type-C USB3 cables.
The one they shipped with the phone is a cheap USB2 one.
4rz0 said:
While it's got the Type-C USB connector, it is not clear if the port actually supports USB3.0 or higher.
The chipset is capable of that, but not sure about Sony's implementation.
I haven't yet tried to find out due to my lack of Type-C USB3 cables.
The one they shipped with the phone is a cheap USB2 one.
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According to Sonys website the connector is USB 3.1 gen 5. Which means up to 5gbit/s.
How to check if the cable is USB c to a 3.1/3 or 2 without "opening"?
celeron1 said:
According to Sonys website the connector is USB 3.1 gen 5. Which means up to 5gbit/s.
How to check if the cable is USB c to a 3.1/3 or 2 without "opening"?
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Interesting, they omitted the USB version info on the Compact's technical data page.
USB 3.x cables are supposed to have blue plastic inside the Type A connector.
There's also 5 additional pins behind the 4 standard ones that one could see.
4rz0 said:
Interesting, they omitted the USB version info on the Compact's technical data page.
USB 3.x cables are supposed to have blue plastic inside the Type A connector.
There's also 5 additional pins behind the 4 standard ones that one could see.
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Hm okay I also bought one cable which is supposed to have USB3 but it was from aliexpress so cant be sure. On the German page it is described as USB 3.1 while *5 explains that it is 3.1 gen 1 5gbit/s
FYI. I Bought a USB 3.0 Cable and now i get a 851,9Mbit/s connection (NDIS according to Windows).
celeron1 said:
FYI. I Bought a USB 3.0 Cable and now i get a 851,9Mbit/s connection (NDIS according to Windows).
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Neat, thanks for the feedback!
That's hella fast, still waiting for my USB3 cable.
I can't seem to get USB 3.0 working on this tablet. I copied 30gb to a 128gb UHS 3 SD card and it copied at 17MB/s (sd card empty)
I don't know why it is so slow!
I am at work so I cannot check the original cable but the first question is "was the cable you used 3.0?", with a blue connector? I actually cannot find out the specifications of the USB port of our tablet, not sure if it supports USB 3.0 but the cable (if I remembered correctly) that came with it is not a blue cable.
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I am at work so I cannot check the original cable but the first question is "was the cable you used 3.0?", with a blue connector? I actually cannot find out the specifications of the USB port of our tablet, not sure if it supports USB 3.0 but the cable (if I remembered correctly) that came with it is not a blue cable.
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I think it is USB 3.0 cable, it has a blue end to it (on USB A end) I have another cable somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment.
Those are in line with the speeds I have gotten, over a USB C cable, to a gen 2 port. I don't think it supports faster transfers.
jasonfreeland said:
Those are in line with the speeds I have gotten, over a USB C cable, to a gen 2 port. I don't think it supports faster transfers.
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Personally, I just think that MTP is slow AF compared to MSC. Shame that android had removed MSC support. Pulling the SD out and using a reader seems to be the only fast way these days.
I'm also talking about USB OTG here.
Given that it is a Hi Sillicon Hi 3660, there is a manual for it.
That manual states that it has USB 3.0 OTG support..
https://en.alpha-star.org/docs/hardware-development-for-hikey960/hi3660-user-manual
see page 64..
Also worth noting that MTP is down to the device speed i think, it's odd and sometimes doesn't even max USB 2.0 even on my one plus. (i don't know why, but MTP is bad).
That speed was using USB OTG, which in host mode is supported at Superspeed according to that manual, so the only thing stopping it is software, in theory.
I sent Huawei an email, and they confirmed that it hasn't got USB 3.0
"Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
The USB specification on the M5 tablet are:
hmm, after thinking about this, the hi 3660 has a USB 3.0 controller built in, and there are two modes, SS at 125MHz and HS at 60MHz, maybe a software update could change this.
I'm doubtful though, as the internal wiring might be different, and probably is.
Hi,
Does anybody know of a USB-C cable featuring both Huawei SuperCharge and USB 3.0 SuperSpeed data trasfer rate?
I could find only cables with either one or the other feature, not both.
Also the original Huawei cable supplied supports SuperCharge (together with the original Huawei charger) but it's only USB 2.0, with max transfer rate of 480 Mbps (USB Hi-Speed) when connected to a USB 3.0/3.1 port of my desktop PC.
Cheers.
This one on Wish worked for me, but you do need a charger marked 'SuperCharge'
https://www.wish.com/product/5d5e07c7af23c34cb82fc587
Not sure if it's USB 3.0 - how do you tell?
a500user2013 said:
This one on Wish worked for me, but you do need a charger marked 'SuperCharge'
https://www.wish.com/product/5d5e07c7af23c34cb82fc587
Not sure if it's USB 3.0 - how do you tell?
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Well, I have purchased several cables compatible with SuperCharge, but none of them was USB 3.0, just 2.0.
I also have tried many USB C cables that were actually USB 3.0, but none of them was SuperCharge compatible.
So I'm looking for a cable that supports BOTH SuperCharge and USB 3.0 data transfer speed, but I couldn't find any so far.
I started thinking that it is not technically possible to have both features in a single cable, it's probably one or the other due to hardware limitations.
You can tell if it's USB 3.0 when you plug the phone to a USB 3.0 port on your Windows PC.
If the cable is USB 2.0 only, a pop-up saying that "This device can perform faster" will appear and the data transfer speed will be much slower.
I have that: https://www.gearbest.com/chargers-cables/pp_1709066.html?wid=1433363
Working as advertised...
USB3 has blue color in connector, USB2 white...